And you know what? It’s really sad to see how people are just gossiping and saying shit about him now that he’s gone. He definitely was controversial, but c’mon. He was never that bad. And the person who suffered the most from his behavior was himself. He had issues, but he tried to deal with them. In fact he was a lot like Robert Downey, Jr. in the pain he went though and drug issues he had.
not to be morbid or disrespectful, but if he died in the studio… do you think they were rolling tape at the time? cuz that post-mortem release will sell like, well, really freaking huge. ODB would have wanted it that way. capturing the last breath and all.
If ODB were not a hip-hop star and were not black, nobody would make an issue of any of it. Look a Jerry Garcia? That guy abused himself and his body just as bad, and he’s revered. Ditto with Robert Downey, Jr. He goes into rehab, stars in a so-so movie, and everyone is fawning over the brilliant struggle he’s gone through. And even Courtney Love. The amount of people who trip over themselves to defend and excuse her behavior is a bit sick. Even Kurt Cobain. He was brilliant, but he was a self-obsessed drug addict who killed himself after he became a father and left his only daughter to have Courtney as a mom. How many people really speak out about that?
But ODB dies, and all of the sudden people are jumping on his case and don’t even have the basic courtesy of at least paying simple last respects. Everyone else can type in their gossip in conspiracy theories yet not one other person can simply pay respects?
If you’re white, have a drug problem and personal issues, you’re noble. If you’re not white. All bets are off. Sad and tragic on many levels.
I don’t see how one person saying that ODB’s children will be scarred was “making a big deal out of it” or “jumping on his case.” I’m still trying to figure out why Justin’s comment deserved a lecture. But since we’re giving lectures…
Honestly, do you really think that the majority of people raise up Courtney Love or Kurt Cobain as heroes? I guess we’re hanging in different crowds, but I think most adults would agree that what Cobain did/Love does to that kid is tragic. I feel sympathy for people with drug problems and do believe that they are victims to drugs. But it doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge that their children are victims, too.
And it doesn’t mean I need to “pay respects” to a man who contributed to the world little besides bigotry, arrogance, and hate. I feel for his family and his 13 children. But here’s why I’m not shedding too many tears over this man. Not because he’s black. Because this was his contribution to the world:
“I ain’t givin none of y’all girls money shit fuck y’all
Love ya but fuck ya let bounce this ball
Screwface ya bitches put food on y’all
He won’t slip, won’t trip, won’t ever fall
Bitch you better obey me, better not betray me
Callin the cops sayin this is his baby
Pussy for free, baby, I don’t want none of yall havin my money
I want pussy”
Sorry, man. Black or white, I won’t miss this one bit.
I heard that VH1 was taping a reality show that involved the challenge of staying within something like 10 ft. of ODB for a certain amount of days. Does anyone know anything about this?
what more can one do for the cause. for white, for the right to bare arms. arms that show tracks. arms tied to the tracks of the big white music machie.
hey odb, did you ever notice that no nigga was ever on a dollar bill?
shit no…?
did you ever notice that only white boys paid to see you? to listen to you?
shit no? really montherfucker?
no talent, no time. nothing for this non brother of mine. grin’n and dancing for all those white boys who keep the white shit in yo pockets
tell me montherfucker, how does it feel to know that mostly white kids buy your shit? how does it feel to come home to the gettho where your name is still S H I and the t?
hi, my name is… my name is… my name is..
someone you just forgot
People do hold Kurt Cobain up as a hero. I was in high school when he died, and people wore black to school and were crying in the hallways. If was fucking ridiculous.
ODB played the last show of his life in Vail, Colorado, Thursday night. He sat in a chair for the entire time, completely out of it. Fellow bandmates explained why he sat to a group of my acquaintances: He was on a three-day binge of crack and vodka.
Yeah, but it was high school. A lot of things were ridiculous in high school. Do you really think that most adults hold Cobain up to be a hero for overdosing? The post I was refering to argued that people romanticized Cobain’s overdose but then criticized ODB, because he was black. I think racism has nothing to do with labeling him a clear misogynist enamored of violence. Just look at his lyrics.
I don’t think that many adults revere Kurt Cobain because of his drug problems. I do think that many adults would describe Kurt Cobain’s troubles as tragic, and I don’t think that those same adults would describe ODB’s problems the same way.
my world has not stopped with this news but it is a sad day… last night and this afternoon cars in the EV were going by blasting Wu-Tang when he was his best… not his solo stuff when he was just a clown
I hope his children learn and rise above this… all 13 of them
I think some of you are missing ODB’s contribution to not only hip hop, but music…
ODB never gave a shit about what other people thought. He only cared about being “real.” His image was not something that a record label produced. He really was that dirty and stinkin’! That was how he lived his life. ODB didn’t care about making sense, rhyming his words, or impressing the masses. His only concern was bringing energy to music. Not only was his style completely unique, but it also acheived something that no other artist has been able to do: He is comical yet hard at the same time! When you listen to him you want to laugh and kick some ass at the same time! That might not appeal to many of you, but think about it…who else is able to do that?
ODB was something original, and it’s very sad that some people are actually thinking of him now when he’s been selling tapes and contributing to hip hop for years. ODB wasn’t much of a role model, but we don’t have too many role models nowadays. ODB was a role model to hip hop, an original off-the-wall emcee. I’d say that ODB was a victim of his own music, meaning, all the erroroneous and bad things that were in his songs was his downfall in life. ODB was a prime example of making mistakes. He was victim of society, race has nothing to do with this, ODB was teaching the listeners of hip hop right from wrong through his music and death. In all actuality, ODB was a role model and a hero to hip hop. Wu-Tang Forever.
If ODB had been white, comments like “good riddance” would be fewer and farther between. A lot of white people don’t like black people. Oh, in theory they’re not racist, but they don’t go out of their way to befriend us. We ask for too much. We complain a lot. We’re so violent. It’s no surprise to some of the people who posted to this page that a black man fathered 7 children, because isn’t that all those people do is have sex? And they don’t work, and they’re on welfare and my tax dollars and blaaaargh. It’s easier to believe the stereotype than do any work to refute it.
Cobain was no more of a tragic figure than Russell Jones. He self-medicated, married an abusive harpy, and put himself in a position he couldn’t live with, at all. Yes, he never wanted to be famous – so rather than leave the band, he shot himself. Committing suicide when you have a toddler at home isn’t tragic, it’s selfish and unforgivable. Don’t laud Kurt as a hero. Point him out as a person who started out with no opportunities, gained some, and didn’t utilize them.
After white people hear that Gay-Z song where he stereotypes a white police officer, they really don’t want to hear your cry baby bitching about racism. I guarentee you that if I made a song where I spoke ignorant broken English in an attempt to make fun of Blacks, I would be run out of town. There have been songs played on the radio that talk about “white devils”. Can you imagine what would happen if the local rock station had songs calling all black people, black devils? Hmmmm
Here is the problem.
Gay-Z is a role model, and Dr. Condolezza Rice is not.
Gay-Z is looked up to by the people in the hood because he sold drugs to “come up in the game.”
Dr. Rice is looked down upon because she is an “uncle tom”. Wanna talk about a Black role model???? Condi enrolled at Colorado University when she was 15. FIFTEEN years old. She had her masters degree at 20, and her .. yes.. don’t be shocked… her PHD in her mid 20′s. SAD aint it?
Wanna talk about coming up? The soon to be Secretary of State grew up in poverty, and segregation. She is from BIRMINGHAM, Alabama. Wanna talk about coming up in the game? How about a Black woman rising out of poverty in the segregated South, and becoming… yes don’t be shocked again…
She makes all rappers look like retarded little children sucking their thumbs.
Why play in a symphony when you can just rap about crack rocks, and impregnating several different woman before leaving them to get put in jail before they are 16?
odb is pulling a tupac
And that’s is how rumors get started…
Sad news. Rest in peace.
And you know what? It’s really sad to see how people are just gossiping and saying shit about him now that he’s gone. He definitely was controversial, but c’mon. He was never that bad. And the person who suffered the most from his behavior was himself. He had issues, but he tried to deal with them. In fact he was a lot like Robert Downey, Jr. in the pain he went though and drug issues he had.
Too bad he was never able to overcome them.
“And the person who suffered the most from his behavior was himself. ”
Yeah, I’m sure his kids will escape from their childhood emotionally unscathed.
not to be morbid or disrespectful, but if he died in the studio… do you think they were rolling tape at the time? cuz that post-mortem release will sell like, well, really freaking huge. ODB would have wanted it that way. capturing the last breath and all.
If ODB were not a hip-hop star and were not black, nobody would make an issue of any of it. Look a Jerry Garcia? That guy abused himself and his body just as bad, and he’s revered. Ditto with Robert Downey, Jr. He goes into rehab, stars in a so-so movie, and everyone is fawning over the brilliant struggle he’s gone through. And even Courtney Love. The amount of people who trip over themselves to defend and excuse her behavior is a bit sick. Even Kurt Cobain. He was brilliant, but he was a self-obsessed drug addict who killed himself after he became a father and left his only daughter to have Courtney as a mom. How many people really speak out about that?
But ODB dies, and all of the sudden people are jumping on his case and don’t even have the basic courtesy of at least paying simple last respects. Everyone else can type in their gossip in conspiracy theories yet not one other person can simply pay respects?
If you’re white, have a drug problem and personal issues, you’re noble. If you’re not white. All bets are off. Sad and tragic on many levels.
Yeah the man was a real poet:
Yo 12, this bitch Sky livin’ in Bed-stuy
Used to be a hon’ until she started gettin’ high
The high school prom queen, now she prom fiend
Her man was 85, so he sold her a dream
Told her he was rich, so she sucked his dick
Swallowed all his cum and she didn’t even spit
Preach on in the afterlife O.D.B.
Preach on…
*sniff*
good riddance
I don’t see how one person saying that ODB’s children will be scarred was “making a big deal out of it” or “jumping on his case.” I’m still trying to figure out why Justin’s comment deserved a lecture. But since we’re giving lectures…
Honestly, do you really think that the majority of people raise up Courtney Love or Kurt Cobain as heroes? I guess we’re hanging in different crowds, but I think most adults would agree that what Cobain did/Love does to that kid is tragic. I feel sympathy for people with drug problems and do believe that they are victims to drugs. But it doesn’t mean I can’t acknowledge that their children are victims, too.
And it doesn’t mean I need to “pay respects” to a man who contributed to the world little besides bigotry, arrogance, and hate. I feel for his family and his 13 children. But here’s why I’m not shedding too many tears over this man. Not because he’s black. Because this was his contribution to the world:
“I ain’t givin none of y’all girls money shit fuck y’all
Love ya but fuck ya let bounce this ball
Screwface ya bitches put food on y’all
He won’t slip, won’t trip, won’t ever fall
Bitch you better obey me, better not betray me
Callin the cops sayin this is his baby
Pussy for free, baby, I don’t want none of yall havin my money
I want pussy”
Sorry, man. Black or white, I won’t miss this one bit.
ODB once stole a pair of shoes from a store down the street from me in Virginia. And for that fact alone, I shall miss him.
I heard that VH1 was taping a reality show that involved the challenge of staying within something like 10 ft. of ODB for a certain amount of days. Does anyone know anything about this?
I totally agree with Kate.
Whoops, I meant Trisha.
Hey Dirty
Baby I got yo money
Don’t you worry
I said Hey!
Baby I got yo money!
How could you not think that wasn’t a fun song?
what more can one do for the cause. for white, for the right to bare arms. arms that show tracks. arms tied to the tracks of the big white music machie.
hey odb, did you ever notice that no nigga was ever on a dollar bill?
shit no…?
did you ever notice that only white boys paid to see you? to listen to you?
shit no? really montherfucker?
no talent, no time. nothing for this non brother of mine. grin’n and dancing for all those white boys who keep the white shit in yo pockets
tell me montherfucker, how does it feel to know that mostly white kids buy your shit? how does it feel to come home to the gettho where your name is still S H I and the t?
hi, my name is… my name is… my name is..
someone you just forgot
Okay, O.D.B was not a role model, but he wasn’t an evil man.
O.D.B. Saves a Child Link(Copy and Paste):
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1429494/19980224/ghostface_killah.jhtml/url
That’s more than some people will ever do….
RIP
People do hold Kurt Cobain up as a hero. I was in high school when he died, and people wore black to school and were crying in the hallways. If was fucking ridiculous.
R.I.P. Big Baby Jesus….
ODB played the last show of his life in Vail, Colorado, Thursday night. He sat in a chair for the entire time, completely out of it. Fellow bandmates explained why he sat to a group of my acquaintances: He was on a three-day binge of crack and vodka.
“If was fucking ridiculous.”
Yeah, but it was high school. A lot of things were ridiculous in high school. Do you really think that most adults hold Cobain up to be a hero for overdosing? The post I was refering to argued that people romanticized Cobain’s overdose but then criticized ODB, because he was black. I think racism has nothing to do with labeling him a clear misogynist enamored of violence. Just look at his lyrics.
I don’t think that many adults revere Kurt Cobain because of his drug problems. I do think that many adults would describe Kurt Cobain’s troubles as tragic, and I don’t think that those same adults would describe ODB’s problems the same way.
who’s gonna support the dozens of kids he fathered?
crack and vodka?
the man was a product of his environment…
my world has not stopped with this news but it is a sad day… last night and this afternoon cars in the EV were going by blasting Wu-Tang when he was his best… not his solo stuff when he was just a clown
I hope his children learn and rise above this… all 13 of them
WU-TANG FOREVER, RIP DIRT MCGIRT SWEAT SO MUCH DIRT IT HURT, ONE LUV
PEACE
My Opinion.
I think some of you are missing ODB’s contribution to not only hip hop, but music…
ODB never gave a shit about what other people thought. He only cared about being “real.” His image was not something that a record label produced. He really was that dirty and stinkin’! That was how he lived his life. ODB didn’t care about making sense, rhyming his words, or impressing the masses. His only concern was bringing energy to music. Not only was his style completely unique, but it also acheived something that no other artist has been able to do: He is comical yet hard at the same time! When you listen to him you want to laugh and kick some ass at the same time! That might not appeal to many of you, but think about it…who else is able to do that?
One word: Original.
RIP
ODB was something original, and it’s very sad that some people are actually thinking of him now when he’s been selling tapes and contributing to hip hop for years. ODB wasn’t much of a role model, but we don’t have too many role models nowadays. ODB was a role model to hip hop, an original off-the-wall emcee. I’d say that ODB was a victim of his own music, meaning, all the erroroneous and bad things that were in his songs was his downfall in life. ODB was a prime example of making mistakes. He was victim of society, race has nothing to do with this, ODB was teaching the listeners of hip hop right from wrong through his music and death. In all actuality, ODB was a role model and a hero to hip hop. Wu-Tang Forever.
RIP Ol’ Dirty Bastard
If ODB had been white, comments like “good riddance” would be fewer and farther between. A lot of white people don’t like black people. Oh, in theory they’re not racist, but they don’t go out of their way to befriend us. We ask for too much. We complain a lot. We’re so violent. It’s no surprise to some of the people who posted to this page that a black man fathered 7 children, because isn’t that all those people do is have sex? And they don’t work, and they’re on welfare and my tax dollars and blaaaargh. It’s easier to believe the stereotype than do any work to refute it.
Cobain was no more of a tragic figure than Russell Jones. He self-medicated, married an abusive harpy, and put himself in a position he couldn’t live with, at all. Yes, he never wanted to be famous – so rather than leave the band, he shot himself. Committing suicide when you have a toddler at home isn’t tragic, it’s selfish and unforgivable. Don’t laud Kurt as a hero. Point him out as a person who started out with no opportunities, gained some, and didn’t utilize them.
After white people hear that Gay-Z song where he stereotypes a white police officer, they really don’t want to hear your cry baby bitching about racism. I guarentee you that if I made a song where I spoke ignorant broken English in an attempt to make fun of Blacks, I would be run out of town. There have been songs played on the radio that talk about “white devils”. Can you imagine what would happen if the local rock station had songs calling all black people, black devils? Hmmmm
Here is the problem.
Gay-Z is a role model, and Dr. Condolezza Rice is not.
Gay-Z is looked up to by the people in the hood because he sold drugs to “come up in the game.”
Dr. Rice is looked down upon because she is an “uncle tom”. Wanna talk about a Black role model???? Condi enrolled at Colorado University when she was 15. FIFTEEN years old. She had her masters degree at 20, and her .. yes.. don’t be shocked… her PHD in her mid 20′s. SAD aint it?
Wanna talk about coming up? The soon to be Secretary of State grew up in poverty, and segregation. She is from BIRMINGHAM, Alabama. Wanna talk about coming up in the game? How about a Black woman rising out of poverty in the segregated South, and becoming… yes don’t be shocked again…
the most powerful woman on God’s green earth.
One more thing.
Dr. Rice is a concert pianist.
She makes all rappers look like retarded little children sucking their thumbs.
Why play in a symphony when you can just rap about crack rocks, and impregnating several different woman before leaving them to get put in jail before they are 16?
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i was at the show in vail co. is there any video of it out there?? the old lady was on stage w/ him……would like to have it