
There was some teeth to Kevin Shields’s promises after all: Tonight, My Bloody Valentine unleash their first new album in over 20 years, the followup to 1991′s seminal shoegazer masterpiece Loveless.
They posted to Facebook (it is fun to visualize them crowding around a MacBook to post): “The album is now live on www.mybloodyvalentine.org.” The servers are slammed to the point of paralysis — we’ve waited 21 years, and according to their error message we still haven’t earned the “credentials” to access it — but we can share this much: It’s called m b v. And it actually exists. For now, feel free to liveblog your listening experience, family-style, and stoke the envy of everyone getting that 403 error. By Monday, we’ll dig in together. New MBV album is here! 2013 we did it y’all.
UPDATE: Some details…
TRACKLIST
1. “she found now”
2. “only tomorrow”
3. “who sees you”
4. “is this and yes”
5. “if i am”
6. “new you”
7. “in another way”
8. “nothing is”
9. “wonder 2″The album is available in three formats:
180 gram vinyl + CD + digital download of your choice
CD + digital download of your choice
digital download of your choiceThe digital download will be available in the following file types:
16bit 44.1 K WAV file (cd quality)
320kbps MP3
24bit 96 K WAV fileThe price of the digital download only is the same regardless of the file quality and size.
The vinyl has been recorded, mixed and mastered in analogue. It is manufactured on 180 gram vinyl and comes in a gatefold sleeve with the CD in a card wallet. The vinyl will be limited due to manufacturing restrictions.
The CD comes in a gatefold card sleeve.
The vinyl and CD artwork is currently being finished and each format will have slightly different but similar artwork to the download artwork that will be attached to your download.
UPDATE: Stream the album below.
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Ack stupid 403 error! This is driving me crazy already!
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I’ll probably just listen to it, myself. But I’m old fashion like that.
Underscore, I feel so bad for you sometimes.
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Who needs porn? Gimme Bilinda Butcher and a guitar circa 1991 any day.
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“Shit, usually my Saturday nights include a handful of Jergens and being logged onto other web sites if you catch my drift, but I guess Kevin Shields and co will be my masturbatory focal points during tonight’s p.m. hours. I told you all it was going to be one giant bukkake here on the ‘Gum, and boy, this place is about to get namesakenly sticky tonight…”
not even gonna lie, you guys are all stiffs for not thinking this is funny. easily one of the funniest things i’ve red on here by far. and no, i am not trolling at all. this is grade a humor.
read*
don’t want you guys thinking i’m stupid or something!
I’m convinced that only the young and immature find this kind of stuff remotely humorous. Running a string of stupid sex terma, body part names, and curse words together isn’t creative or that funny. It sounds like a ‘my first app’ for ‘learn to program’.
I thought it was a clever comment. I laughed to myself.
*tries to dive away from downvote flak*
I still don’t believe it. Are we sure the new MBV album isn’t just a 403 error? Maybe Shield’s just wants the whole world to sit and wait on that 403 error and then when we are all distracted he will hunt us down one by one until their will be no one left to ask for a new MBV album. And then when all is quiet, he can stop stop gazing at his shoes and start gazing at the world he now rules.
do you get the same crash message as everybody when you click the ‘buy’ button?
Please send to a friend – aka “Me” ;)
ok, who here is under the age of 22 and is pissed cause you’ve been waiting for this all of your life?
Been waiting since the womb.
MBV-Free since ’93!
Since early 1992! Kevin Shields is the biggest tease.
good guy kevin shields.
I got it. Really surprised by the prominent brass section, but loving it.
Nah I got as far as the homepage but clicking “Buy Now” gives me errors.
If I get the 403 error on the first try should I keep trying or am I stuck that way?
Ok now instead of the 403 message it just goes to a blank page – maybe they’re at least trying to fix it?
This is as far as I got for anyone who is just getting the 403 or server is too busy messages (yikes!, it’s real).
This is the official my bloody valentine website and online shop.
The new album is available to buy now.
The album is available in three formats:
180 gram vinyl + CD + digital download of your choice
CD + digital download of your choice
digital download of your choice
The digital download will be available in the following file types:
16bit 44.1 K WAV file (cd quality)
320kbps MP3
24bit 96 K WAV file
The price of the digital download only is the same regardless of the file quality and size.
The vinyl has been recorded, mixed and mastered in analogue. It is manufactured on 180 gram vinyl and comes in a gatefold sleeve with the CD in a card wallet. The vinyl will be limited due to manufacturing restrictions.
The CD comes in a gatefold card sleeve.
The vinyl and CD artwork is currently being finished and each format will have slightly different but similar artwork to the download artwork that will be attached to your download (pictured in main pack-shot on right of screen).
has anybody actually been able to download this?
Got a feeling I’ll be listening to the new Avalanches album when the site’s fixed.
as in “by the time the site’s fixed”.
Some people commenting around the internet that they got it but pretty sure that’s bullshit. Site crashed immediately.
Some of those same people were reporting things like “track 2 sounds like Single Ladies!”, so yeah, I’m doubting it.
I doubt anyone was able to download it.
access is denied to THE FORBIDDEN ALBUM..
1 vinyl please!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DgbUBoxa48
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-my-bloody-valentine-website-work-again/YdCY6dSx
Just got rick-rolled by someone on FB saying they had a link to the stream. The anticipation is killing me!
Listening to “To Here Knows When” while being a part of this momentous occasion makes me feel like I’m ascending to Heaven.
Anyone know how much the MP3 version costs yet?
Hearing reports of $16. Also hearing reports it’s all dubstep so don’t really know what to believe.
That’s a little more than usual, no? That leads me to believe its a large album in terms of tracks, which I’m pumped about.
Sadly the chances of me hearing it tonight are about the same as the chances of it being all dubstep. Stupid servers.
It’s 9 tracks. Wouldn’t be surprised if some tracks were pretty long though.
I hope so, at almost $1.50 apiece it better be worth it. I’m sure it will be though
yeah, It’d be good to know the pricing.
vinyl/cd/digital package is $30
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-my-bloody-valentine-website-work-again/YdCY6dSx
close my eyes, feel me now, I don’t know, maybe you could download now
“First it give’th, then it take’th away”.
Who updates Wikipedia pages so quickly?
this comment has cured my 403 error blues
I was going to do home work tonight… but then this happened.
I hope they have a good IT guy working to fix this right now. Preferably one with an accent.
It’s probably Shields tapping away on his laptop going “Hm. That’s weird.”
They should try turning it off and on again
Come on people, it’s painfully obvious at this point that My Bloody Valentine never intended to release a new album, and that Kevin Shields never claimed a new album would come out in 2-3 days as earlier reported. It’s clear that Ronaiah Tuiasosopo is behind all of this. It’s best to accept this now and not act all incredulous when it turns out what we thought existed was just unceremoniously killed off with a 403 error.
Listening to this now, and I must admit: Tuiasosopo does a damn convincing MBV impression. Kid’s got talent.
*NEWS ALERT* the album is now called “Forbidden: Access is Denied” and consists of an hour of the sound of people clicking ‘refresh’
Staring at the 403 page thinking to myself, Never expected Shields to go all minimalist on us…
Come to think of it, 403 is pretty close to 4’33″ (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4′33″).
Well Kevin Shields is either balling his eyes out about this or pissing his pants from laughing way too much about this right about now. Not sure which.
The longer I’m kept waiting the more frustrated I’ll get.
IT’S WORKING!!
false alarm. It appears like it’s back to normal (not working). **throws table/chair repeatedly
OMIGOSHOMIGOSHOMIGOSH
I’ve been transported from “403″ to simple “the service is unavailable” so it seems to still be iffy.
DAH! Almost there.
I tried to put in my login info and I got an error screen.
I WAS SO CLOSE!!!
I ALMOST HAD IT!!! We should be taking turns trying to get at it so we’re not undermining each other.
yup. this is the equivalent to not letting each other get through the gate at a concert because we all want to the best possible spot.
EVERYONE STOP REFRESHING AND TAKE A NUMBER
No one around me has any idea who MBV is and they have no idea why I’m freaking out at my laptop.
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What the hell is this jackass talking about?
He appears to to be saying that we are exceptionally large or solid bundles of sticks, iron rods or homosexuals for not giving public recognition or a provision of money, goods or services with the expectation of future payment to some unspecified location to which he believes such recognition or provision is owed.
I dunno; he was kind of ambiguous…
Thank you sir
My composed response:
Please stop spreading hate on this site especially without explaining yourself.
My emotionally charged response:
GTFO
uh oh man. i got banned for saying that word a while back. better watch yoself! see rubjon is a changed man. rubjon has reached enlightenment. for the time being at least (or maybe i’m just hammered)
Rubberjohnny…good to see you back. I do believe this is the first time I’ve ever seen your comments upgraded instead of in the double digit negatives. Good work son.
I’m gay and fuck you
Why is Adam Gelatt not banned? I was banned for using the exact same word. I demand fair treatment.
MESSAGE-BOARD EQUALITY
a new movement lead by RJ himself.
WHO’S WITH ME?
i’m downloading something being passed around… hope it’s the real thing.
where?
[Illegal download link redacted]
MY DOWNLOAD KEEPS INTERRUPTING
THIS IS THE REAL DEAL, GUYS. I REPEAT, THIS IS THE REAL DEAL.
Wow, 21 years waiting and you can’t even swing a few bucks their way through a legal download? That’s sad…
I tried so hard but the site wont let me
I’ll by it as soon as the site starts working
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I’m sure they’ll buy it once its available and are just using the torrent to hear it after such a long wait.
I’ve waited 21 years for this album, MIchael. You can be sure that MBV are going to get 16 bucks from me as soon as their site works again. But at this very second? I just want to listen to this shit.
So for right now, all I can say to you:
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Michael_ – I wish you were serious about never commenting on Stereogum ever again. I think you like being the heel though, so I’m doubtful it will ever happen.
okay I admit I feel pretty bad now
sorry for all of this and now that the sites working I just bought the album and I hope you all do too
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you wrote a paragraph about jerking off and ejaculating on faces.
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regulate
Just pressed play. My heart is beating so fast.
Track Names / Times
1. “she found now” – 5:06
2. “only tomorrow” – 6:22
3. “who sees you” – 6:12
4. “is this and yes” – 5:07
5. “if i am” – 3:54
6. “new you” – 4:59
7. “in another way” – 5:31
8. “nothing is” – 3:34
9. “wonder 2″ – 5:52
HOW? WHERE? HOW IS IT? SO MANY QUESTIONS!
Torrent.
On track 4 and it’s. . . really fucking good. It’s solid 90s music lol. I don’t know what to say yet.
Also, sorry Michael_ :(
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Wahhh!!!!!!!!!!
Mikey, baby, there’s a new MBV album, play nice.
Mike, I haven’t been on the site much and you’ve managed to insult RJC twice in the few posts I’ve read. Do you think it logical to complain about others downvoting you as you verbally attack him? He’s a guy that has had an enormous amount of patience for you and could justifiably do the exact opposite.
Stop. Shut it down. Log off. See you tomorrow.
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You’re a teenage girl with a wider vocabulary sometimes.
You bring the worst out of yourself. Don’t blame others for the words your fingers type.
Nobody knows when to take you seriously because who knows if this is another pro wrestling stunt? Or if you have the bottle of Jergens out again and leaned back in yr chair moaning, “Oh, I’ll piss on their parade tonight! Yeah this will be a great way to celebrate the new album!”
It’s so hard to tell but I truly don’t care. This album is much louder than the white noise coming from your keyboard Michael_ and it really shows who you are by acting like a twit on such a special day. I was excited to spend last night commenting with my Stereogum brethren, but instead was forced to close out of the site entirely to help ignore your negativity. I don’t even know why I’m bothering to write this, but I’ve tried being cordial. I didn’t want to add to the negativity you initiated. I wanted to celebrate this album.
So that’s what I’ll do.
“she found now” is the perfect opener. After YEARS of “Isn’t Anything” and “Loveless” slaying ass right out the gate, we get a slow burning build to calm our nerves and beating hearts to ease us into this album. It’s instantly the greatest song I’ve ever heard for being so kind and gentle. But then the rest of the album happens…
“only tomorrow” and “who sees you” complement each other beautifully. As has been said below, these tracks feel like natural follow-ups to “Loveless”. Both clocking in over six minutes with the former having to fade out to end that infinite groove and the latter building to a worthy climax.
Then our first and only shift back into calmer territory with another 1-2 punch. The girl I fell in love with at the Polo Fields in 2009 returns to the microphone to “cooo” us into submission. For those that have heard the rest of the album, “is this and yes” and “if i am” are merely the calm before the storm. But it’s impressive how smoothly those two tracks float into each other.
Have we figured out if “new you” was “Rough Song” from a few days ago? That video got taken down so I can’t compare, but that was my first reaction to “new you”. Glorious transition into the back side of this album. I remember thinking that they’ll likely have another relaxing track near the end to ease us out of this already stellar album, but tracks 7-9 is an ascension to space.
I remember nearly screaming when that SCREEEECH kicks in at the beginning of “in another way”, only to unfold in one of the hardest mbv tracks I’ve ever heard… yet. That song is probably my favorite at the moment. That guitar at the end is classic hum-a-long mbv where you just mouth the guitar sound out loud to pass the time. LOVE how it ends too…
…and gives way to “nothing is” – the song that will trick many a stoner into thinking their mp3s are skipping. It will DEFINITELY convince anybody over the age of 50 that “your record is skipping”, but really that’s what is needed here in the penultimate track of this album. Vicious repetition to the point that you think this album is going to loop itself into oblivion, which it does, but not until “wonder 2″
Ooooohhhhh “wonder 2″ you fucking sunuvabitch. After all these years of mbv’s live show described as “an airplane taking off” we finally get an mbv song that sounds like yr inside a jet engine floating over the planet. It sounds like something in reverse, like the whole album is being undone and getting sucked into a giant vacuum. Then, just like the two previous tracks, it drops out and ends in mere seconds.
We’re left with nothing but slack jawed awe. And then the sounds of “she found now”. The loop continues. We have a long way to go before we outplay this album like we did “Loveless” and that’s exactly what we intend to do.
tl;dr Who the fuck is going to top this album this year?
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Nice little summary Raptor. Incredible album. Absolutely incredible.
I’d love to see some info as to when each of these gems were recorded. But whenever they were recorded, MBV are gods.
Michael, you need to take some time off the Internet.
Ain’t nobody slanderin’ the dino messiah.
I’m with you on that, Brock. Fortunately, I’ve started already by decapitating it at the head with facebook — A week without looking at that white noise News Feed already has me feeling a few percentiles better without having to subject myself to the pointless posts of people who don’t even really know me anymore.
raptor jesus, if you’re reading this, I am sorry for underscoring your Super m b v Bowl party. We’re a lot alike in our passion about music, but very different in how we go about showing it. Out of all the pointless arguments I’ve seen amongst others or had myself on here, all the terrible trolls and so on, the one thing that has actually broken my heart in real life about this place despite being able to log off and away from imaginary avatars of this comment section at the end of the day was the very real value to me that was that guest post. I never got any sort of apology from anyone over how that entire event played out, and that’s what hurts my real life emo heart. duchessofthomyorke aside, I was a positive influence and addition to the comments — and that happened, and it broke me.
But, I’m taking Brock Lesnar Boonstra’s advice for the time out for now.
That’s the spirit! It sounds like you’re going through a pretty rough time, and having been through a few of those myself, I know it’s hard to get out of a rut once you’re in one. But I think sometimes you just gotta unplug and pin your demons to the ground. I very sincerely wish all the best for you and hope things start picking up real soon. Keep it real, Brother Barone!
Yr friend,
Brock
Guys I think Michael_ is trolling everyone. Or….something. I don’t even know anymore.
FOUND IT OH SWEET JESUS
Apparently the MP3 version that the site is selling is a poor transcode to 320 kbps.
Best to go with the WAV version, me thinks.
OK, a VO converted from FLAC just leaked. Sounds wonderful.
I got the MP3 and CD. I’m usually not so picky about the difference, but if it is actually a poor rip, I wouldn’t mind hearing the VO converted from FLAC you speak of. Got a link?
It sounded fine to me in MP3 (read: amazing)…but I’d like to make sure : )
Would give you the link if I could but I’m not partial to posting copyrighted music on public forums.
Try PMing me on Facebook, maybe.
Makes sense. I’ll check it out
IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Same here!
GOT IT!
My fist listen was incredible. I feel like my ears need a cigarette now.
I hope you mean first. Oh my.
Haha! I did.
But that’s how powerful this album is. So…
Michael_ you do realize this is 2013 right? The music business is not exactly in the same state that MBV left it 22 years ago…. Times have changed. Not to say that downloading music without paying for it is something everyone should do, but let’s face it, you can’t stop people from doing what they want to do. Do you really want to be the internet-police or something? Look, most people here like myself are fans and I can guarantee you that the majority if not, all of us will be ordering this on Vinyl and have it tucked away where nobody can touch it. THAT’S HOW MUCH WE LOVE THIS BAND. Otherwise, i don’t think any of us would be here tonight.
WHERE IS YOUR JOE HOWSE NOW??
Playing it now, record on the way, got a ticket to see them live in 13 days, life is pretty good.
Mind. Blown.
Everything from “New You” onwards completely blew my mind. Well, before that too.
But afterwards…. dear god.
Agreed. Second half kicked my ass
Definitely agree. After all the hype (and website issues), I was a little bit let down at first after hearing the first several tracks, which struck me as sounding like bonus tracks from the “Loveless” recordings. But now I’m listening to second half (and currently on the last track with the jet engine – YES!) and NOW I’m getting into it. Definitely looking forward to repeat listenings with headphones.
‘only tomorrow’ is so so good. the ecstatic ‘wwwwwoooooo!’ s and guitar swoons
Yep. It’s good.
anyone else feel like $16 for digital and $22 for a cd is a bit much?
on the other hand, $30 for vinyl+cd is a pretty good deal
Yeah, that $30 dollar deal is dope.
But $22 for the CD? Come on.
And $16 for the digital is super ridiculous. I refuse to spend more than $10 on something I can’t physically hold. That’s a personal rule.
I’m crazy conflicted right now.
Well it sounds so much like a 90s album they figured they’d charge 90s prices.
What you are getting for $22 is the CD + the digital download. Kevin is probably looking at it as essentially getting the vinyl audio and the CD since most people are going to pick the 24-bit option for the download. If you choose the vinyl + CD + download, you are being charged about $8 more, basically for the record’s packaging. Bear in mind that the band is handling all of this without any label support and that the pound is worth significantly more than the dollar.
good call on the pound vs dollar. i wasn’t thinking about that
Yep, they’ve priced themselves out of my market. The $30 deal seems ok until the $11 shipping pops up (USPS?). For now it’s an illegal download and a hope for a reasonably priced alternative, digital or physical.
Pretty sure you guys can find an active In Rainbows forum to share your ideas on download price and let us enjoy this beauty of a record!
I guess you could think of it as saving one dollar for each year they didn’t release this album. I picked up the CD and massive WAV download. I hear I’m getting the LP for my birthday so I had to restrain myself.
It’s also incredible! Excellent LP. Worth the wait.
YES! The jet sounds at the end are worth the price of admission.
Just curious to know the rationale behind your decision, but if the LP comes with both a CD and a digital download, why did you choose to purchase the CD / digital separately again instead of just the digital to hold you over for now?
seriously who cares it sounds phenomenal and it’s such an historic moment, let’s listen to it and comment the music and leave pointless digital comments aside for a while!!!
I wasn’t making the suggestion that digital or vinyl were better quality, I was just confused as to why he bought the CDs twice. He writes well, but didn’t bother to read the product page thoroughly apparently.
I listen to CDs in my car and coincidentally have had a CD copy of “Loveless” in my car since I got the thing. Since I was told not to get the LP since it’ll be a gift, I ordered the CD and digital release because mbv can have my money.
And to be perfectly honest I didn’t know they had an LP/CD/Download option of all three. I just clicked the CD link and off I went.
The high quality WAV files sound a lot better than the mp3 version btw.
I would if it were for any other band but for MBV…. worth it!
dece
When “Loveless” was released, I was a little more than two months old. Yet, I’m still able to enjoy the energy surrounding to release of that album’s worthy follow-up.
Thank you, Kevin and the gang, for the belating the release to let all us millenials enjoy the launch.
I was 8 or 9 years old, but I can guarantee you I wasn’t listening to Loveless back then. I was making good use of my Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: The Secret of the Ooze tape though. Shit was tight.
Anyway, I may be a few moons older, but I feel like I’m in the same boat. Many of us are…22 years is a hell of a long time.
Going to bed a happy man. Never thought I’d see an MBV album during my lifetime, let alone just a few years into my music culture consciousness and indie rock fandom. Time will only tell if this can match up with or (dare I say it) surpass the excellence that is “Loveless.”
Also wanted to add that this has been a tough week – a very close friend of mine lost his mother this week at a much too young age. I just wanted to thank everyone on this thread (and the entire Stereogum community, staff included) for keeping me distracted and laughing, and to MBV for giving me something new and amazing to listen to this year.
2013 is off to quite a start, lets hope it keeps going this way.
Can’t wait to play this at the roller rink where I DJ. Really mess with some heads.
Oh My god I’m back and so excited to actually listen to this
Wow. This is all just spectacular. It’s just what I wanted from them. it’ll take a while for me to really digest all this landing so suddenly.
Wow. Wow. So much better than I was worried it would be. They haven’t been dicking around.
I keep thinking the same thing. I am so ecstatic this thing is as good as it is!
They should have taken pre-orders before releasing the downloads.
Been listening on repeat for a couple hours, it’s amazing! He somehow managed to take this thing in a new direction again. A couple of the tracks are quite weird, but in a good way. Some folks have compared it to Loveless but it sounds nothing like it. The trademark vocals are (thankfully) there and Kevin still flaunts his watermark playing but that’s about it. This record is all over the place in a great way.
Happy early (My Bloody) Valentine’s Day!
http://happymusicsadmusic.blog.com/2013/02/03/stream-the-new-my-bloody-valentine-album/
There’s a link to the COS stream there.
Also, and this is a completely preliminary assessment…. this is not overwhelming….
yeah, awesome, downvote me because i linked you to a working stream of the album and i’m not immediately blown away….
I kind of agree with you by this point. There’s just no substitute for the feeling I get when I press play on an album with such an immediately great opener as “Only Shallow.” “She Found Now” is certainly pleasant enough, but I’m the type of mbv fan who would’ve liked this album to start with “New You” or something like it. My favorite Loveless songs are “Only Shallow,” “Loomer,” “To Here Knows When,” “Blown a Wish,” and “Soon.” (And I like “Only Shallow” far more for Bilinda Butcher’s vocals than for the noise). I like noise used for beauty, rather than volume, though mbv are good at combining the two. So this album doesn’t quite have the consistent beauty for me that Loveless does.
But that’s OK, all I realistically wanted was at least a couple of songs to really latch onto, and “If I Am” and “New You” are perfect for me. I don’t think this album is a masterpiece, or as great as Loveless, but I’m fine with that.
“If I Am” and “New You” are definitely my favorites so far, but I’m loving the whole album after a couple listens. I think the 403 error thing was designed to make us all weary to the point where we’d be on the verge of sleep by the time we got to listen to the album. That way it’s easier to just sit back and zone out to it.
I hear that! Those two tracks are definite highlights! And I like the half-asleep theory. I’m not into drugs, so this is the next best thing I suppose : )
Not into drugs? Music has so much more to offer you :(
Music has plenty to offer as it is to me. If I can appreciate the hell out of albums like Loveless, or Kid A, or ( ), or anything released from 65-69, I think I’m good without.
Yeah, sober up, Smush! Get your shit together! (Nah, I’m just joshin’.)
An absurd thing to say, I know, but drugs definitely enhance my musical experience. Don’t worry about me, I’m mostly drug-free these days.
Hugs…not drugs :)
Yeah, I’ve never really listened to music on any drug other than alcohol, and I’d say it’s definitely easier to appreciate music when I’m sober. If I’m drunk, then the song ends and I feel like I haven’t even listened to it. Neko Case’s Furnace Room Lullaby is the only album I’ve heard that holds up decently well to being drunk. But My Bloody Valentine has always been enough of a drug in itself, corny as that sounds.
Your last sentence nailed it. The music itself is the only drug I need. Let the good times roll.
While Kevin is a longtime pot smoker, he has always said that loveless is not a drug album; it’s an album inspired by insomnia and loss.
Where is the Comment Party?
You have arrived
Talk about headphone candy
I dunno, I think this mix is all about the speakers. Crank that baby up.
Just barely starting my first listen…two tracks in and am in full eargasm mode. So glad this luscious beauty isn’t a 22 year old stinker.
Ughhh I wish I was into MBV ’cause if I was this would be super exciting
Surprisingly, this album is a good place to start. Never too late to fall in love with My Bloody Valentine
Yeah, gotta say, after everything I’ve read about Loveless and all the hype behind this one, I finally got around to listening to Loveless last night for the first time. I’m glad I did. And this one sure is fantastic as well.
I only began my love for the band about 6 years ago or so…but they have ridden their way amongst my favorite bands ever since then. So glad I made that connection in time to witness this release and appreciate it.
Hmm I’ll definitely give it a listen! I’ve listened to loveless many times, because of all the crazy hype there is around it and it just never clicked. Which is odd because I totally dig shoe gaze type stuff.
That is odd considering all shoe gaze basically stems from them.
New You….HOLY SHIT.
Belinda still bewitches me. Hot damn.
This is so fucking good. I’m having some sort of epiphany
so many people are waiting for the pitchfork review to say what they think of the album.
Any review published on Monday is just going to be a knee-jerk reaction anyway. I would hope that publications would have the sense to wait at least a week or something to get some perspective, but, hey, this is the internet.
Yes, it’s confusing now…. They can review it in the next week already (as they did with No Love Deep Web) or they can wait until an ‘official’ physical release. I hope they’ll (and other publications) stick to the second option.
Pitchfork specializes in knee-jerk reactions. That’s why they have to sometimes go back and change their scores (or in the case of Aeroplane, replace reviews altogether).
They used to be much more incredibly snarky and pompous but have cleaned up the past few years. I like them and read them regularly now…but still they’re like the Leonard Maltin of the music world. They tend to look at music through almost a collegiate lens with hipster rims….instead of what actually touches the heart and has long lasting emotional impact.
Yeah, my first experience with Pitchfork was their very negative review of The Mars Volta’s Frances the Mute, which I really liked at the time. But then I read their review of Interpol’s Turn On the Bright Lights, another favorite of mine, and I mostly liked Pitchfork from then on. It’s best to use Pitchfork as a tool (no pun intended, I guess). That is, use it to get exposed to new music, and try to ignore negative reviews of stuff you already like. Then again, I haven’t listened to The Mars Volta in years. Darn you, Pitchfork!
I do have an old fondness for the snarky reviews, although I feel like Brent DiCrescenzo was the only one who did it well, while still saying interesting things about the music.
FUCK pitchfork. Seriously, they’re crummy opinion means nothing. Glad I heard the album before they try to dismantle it.
Oh gosh. My thoughts exactly! Even though I use Pitchfork, and a couple other websites, I will have to take a break from them if this gets anything less than a 9.0. Seriously, what score does this album deserve?
I’m pretty sure that Ian Cohen thinks it’s a 5.6.
I agree. I am usually pretty keen with Pitchfork, but if this gets below even 8.5 at LEAST… that might be the final straw. I’d be pretty surprised if this gets a low review though. They seem to worship the very toilet Kevin Shields sits upon.
Doesn’t deserve less than a 9 but I’d go for the 10. Mainly due to the fact that I’ve had it on repeat since Saturday night. Haven’t done that with an album by any band in years. This is a GREAT record. A classic. It’s def going to take repeat listens for some people. If the naysayers out there give it a chance and stop trying to compare it to Loveless and listen to the album on it’s own merit, they’ll come around. There are lots of new colors on this album that have yet to grace an MBV release. Further listening keeps revealing all these rewarding subtleties that are tucked away in the mix. So psyched this record is finally in the world!!!
Going back to the rating….. pitchfork has praised some terrible, throw away dog turd acts, bands that can’t hold a torch even to MBV’s pre-Creation releases. Granting those jokers a 9 or better. So even if the consensus is that this new record isn’t as “ground breaking” or “game changing” as say Loveless, it still destroys all the safe, generic music that’s tossed off out there.
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Now we just need a new Neutral Milk Hotel album
Yeah, I think it will happen. I think Jeff Mangum is following a similar path to Kevin’s. He has returned to performing, presumably not just to say thanks but also to motivate himself to complete a new album. I would say that Jeff is probably under a bit less pressure too since it has not been as long and in terms of his approach to recording, he is not prone to paralyzing perfectionism like Shields.
I disagree. We don’t need new albumf from The Avalanches or Daft Punk either! Nothing will surpass ITAOTS, Sicne I Left You or Discovery. There are already too many artists with screwed up discographies. The Stooges, for exmple, being one. Iggy Pop said they will release a new album this summer. WHO TEH FUCK WANT TO LISTEN TO THE NEW STOOGES ALBUM IN 20-13? Way to ruin such a legacy, idiot… Oh, I’m a bit off-topic here… So, no
typos make this even charmer. good
The world also didn’t need Michael Jordan come back for two seasons with the Wizards, but he did anyway, goddamnit, and more power to him for it –– he was willing to take a risk, believed it was worth it, and went for it without regard for what people would say. I don’t really care about whether artists can lay claim to having a “perfect” discography or any of that nonsense. If you’re one of these long dormant but revered artists that wants to put out an album, well golly, I think that’s fantastic and I sincerely hope it’s good. If it’s not, oh well. Thanks for the effort.
Just as no one remembers that shitty Stooges album, scarcely anyone wastes much time ruminating on Jordan’s lackluster comeback with the Wizards and their failure to make the playoffs, and the Kwame Brown situation, and all of that dismal, dismal shit. In the same way, a miserable comeback album has to reach some pretty astounding levels of crapulence to completely besmirch someone’s legacy. Mediocrity doesn’t lessen the impact of the transcendent stuff; indeed, the former tends to be forgotten, and for good reason.
No one needs new albums from anyone, true, but if someone wants to put something out there, I say why the fuck not.
Just listening to it for the second time and WOW has it exceeded my expectations! I was sure that it could only be a disappointment, but they’ve managed to avoid the twin temptations of trying to make it sound too much, or not enough, like Loveless, instead it sounds like the classic follow up Loveless deserves.
Also, is anyone else hearing it as a set of three sets of three songs each (m, b & v perhaps?)? The first suite is very much Loveless v2.0, the second is much calmer and all Belinda led and the third is much more forward thinking, a bit heavier with some noticeable DnB influences.
The 320kbps MP3 sounds absolutely great to me. Obviously MBV in WAV is going to sound exceptional, but I don’t think that makes the MP3 poor (even in comparison unless you have some great equipment) and if you want to listen to it on an iPod etc. then you’ll need the MP3 anyway.
tl;dr : *head explodes*
Just to add to my previous thoughts about the album structure; I just remembered that Kevin Shields said a wee while back that the new album was influenced by SMiLE, which of course was (also?) made up of three separate suites.
I also think the MP3 sounds terrific. Then again I was never one to pretend I heard the minute differences.
For those who obsess over sound quality like I do, I just thought I’d mention that buying the 24-bit download allows you lots of options. The Foobar player, which is free to download, does play these files. You can burn them to a DVD-A without altering the files in any way, and if you have a car stereo that doesn’t like DVD-As, then you can convert the WAV files to FLACs with any number of free programs online and burn those to a CD. The quality of the FLACs will be equivalent to what you will be getting on the CD release (1239 kbps).
After being kinda let down after hearing the first several tracks, I was getting ready to make a “Chinese Democracy” crack. But now I’m on the second side and this is BLISS.
I think this is very deliberately an album that slowly builds momentum, and even though it came together over a huge span of time, I think it is very much an album in the sense that the songs are intended to cumulatively communicate a coherent emotional message. It’s an album about gradually reentering consciousness after a prolonged dormant state and then finding a way to adjust to and transcend the difficulties of this plane. All stimuli seem more abrasive when one first wakes up, hence the chunky, dry guitar sounds in the first three tracks. The soloing in the outros of only tomorrow and who sees you is painfully beautiful. The middle tracks are the turning point, an opening up of possibilities for the previously overwhelmed individual. The song names, however minimalist and subtle, do seem to support this theory. Tracks 7-9 represent the triumph of the individual’s will and/or spiritual realization that allows the individual to metamorphose into something greater than once seemed possible, an adaptation that guarantees continued existence.
Right from the first track I was heavily into this album.
Isn’t Anything…. Loveless…. m b v… a three album streak as good as if not better than the Bends, OK Computer and Kid A in my opinion.
There are very few bands you could compare to Radiohead’s streak without me crying blasphemy (yes, I’m one of those)…but I can agree with this statement.
Second go ’round with headphones on and, *wow*, what a difference. I usually like listening to MBV on my stereo speakers just to be able to be blown away by the sound, but where previously I was underwhelmed by the opening track(s), now with headphones on it’s so much easier to appreciate the depth and richness of the tunes.
Michael Hanna I’m intrigued by your idea of the three parts of this album. Later I’m planning on listening to Isn’t Anything, Loveless, and m b v back-to-back-to-back.
Better!
let’s face it, my bloody valentine have pulled off something thought impossible: they put out a great new album that works in context with their past stuff….22 YEARS after the fact. you can play isn’t anything, then loveless and then this and not skip a beat.
and if you take it out of context of following up one of the most ambitious albums of the last 30 years, it’s STILL good. all the hype, all the buildup (and i’m not just talking the last four years since they started up, i’m talking the few separate times in the 90′s they would say an album’s ready, then scrap it and we never hear from them again), and it really is a good album.
It’s the kind of album they could have released in ’93 but couldn’t because they needed all this time to get it right.
that’s the great thing about mbv, you can release their stuff in any year and it sounds pretty universal.
This album is kind of like a time machine back to the early 90′s. I missed this sound so much.
It absolutely is, and yet it also sounds like the future. How does he do that?
I was thinking the same thing. Still sounds miles beyond 2013 despite sounding like it came out in 1993.
So AOTY, right?
obvi
GUYS, This album is fantastic. We’ve got another classic on our hands. Can’t believe they’ve lived up to the immense hype like this. Incredible.
damn skippy ;)
Amazing, simply amazing. Hard to think of much topping this, maybe Deerhunter?
Good sir, I am afraid that only a record released by God Himself could top M B V this year.
Deerhunter? I’m a fan but there’s no comparison. They pretty much based their sound off MBV and do a cute “watered down” version but MBV slay them on all fronts. Literally crush them.
I’m hoping for Atoms For Peace to give it a run, but I find myself thinking nothing can touch this album for 2013.
Holy shit this is so fucking good. It’s like they never left… how does this happen 20 years after the fact? I do not get it. Amazing.
In summary:
-Wow.
-This album is wholly fantastic; not one track disappoints.
-It fits in really well with the rest of their discography but also feels like a progression. I think it’ll make a good entry point for new MBV listeners, but it’s great to experience it as a new work after thoroughly digesting Isn’t Anything, Loveless, and the EPs years ago.
-Kevin Shield’s creative trajectory is significantly different than Axl Rose’s.
Wow, Michael_ has it rough.
Anyways, I’m getting the album now, so very exciting.
Wow! This was a GREAT album! Holy dy-NO-mite! Vicious, cerebral, beautiful, restrained, poignant, ugly, brittle, tension, gnarly, radical, translucent, lovely…and the most wonderful part is that this IS an instant classic record. No debate ( go ahead and try and die trying). It’s one of those albums you hear on first listen ( ala OK Computer, My Beautiful Dark and Twisted Fantasy, Elephant, Funeral) where you just KNOW its in the best of canon. Best of the year? No doubt. Best of the new decade…certainly. Best of all time…I’m hedging the very comfortable bet of very very likely. A stunner! And I love how towards the end it accelerates into a mushroom cloud of white noise, aggressive tension, kick ass bouncing over the wall trip-hammer rhythms and then boom…. Ladies and Gentleman, we are floating in Kevin Shield’s space. Respect it :)
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Are you the obligatory snide a-hole on forums? Everyone needs one. If so, welcome to the fold.
Here’s a quote I pulled up from you just for kicks=
“I care about writing posts that are satisfying to me in the moment, self-expression that is cathartic or is somehow funny to me. That has already been said. I am a perfectionist about everything, and I’m nothing if not long-winded.”
My question=are YOU ok?
I’m fine, and you won’t find a bigger Shields or mbv fan than me. I just think your post was a bit cartoonish. It’s almost impossible to be hyperbolic about an mbv album, but you may have actually done it. It read like you flipped through a thesaurus and wrote the first twenty random adjectives you saw. It was either that, or you came dangerously close to overdosing on stimulants. As for that random post of mine, I was explaining my reasons for posting on here (particularly length posts), which contrast starkly with a lot of other people’s. There are a shocking number of people on here who post things because they really care what some stranger in cyberspace thinks about them, they think they are forming lifelong friendships, and/or they think something they type on here has some lasting meaning or impact.
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my question…is why does it matter to you?
and look I didn’t mean to sound rude, but I am a musician and I get radically excited about things I’m passionate about. If I talk in ghetto thug slang, high brown pitchforkian drivel or whatever, its just kinda rude to write “Are you ok?”. Let’s leave it at that and just enjoy this damn fine MBV album, eh? Peace
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Hanna’s being an asshole again. You know what that means!
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Michael Hannah vs. raptorjesus for the WWE title — I’m having creative book the match for Wrestlemania (Stereogum Comment Section Version) because I really can’t see this storyline going in any other direction come April than having the guy who despises self-congratulating lengthy post culture taking on the current upvote babyface at the top of the mountain who thrives on it.
I had every intention of stopping the turtle gifs, but then you had to go and take a dump on some guy’s enthusiasm. Just trying to maintain a battle between dick and turtle.
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well that didn’t work. it was supposed to be a dick and a turtle.
I should clarify I didn’t mean this record as best of ALL time…but possibly among the best of all time. I have no doubt :) This album is flawless.
Michael Hanna as my daddy often said, you are the “King of Assholes”. Enjoy the title!
Hey so I didn’t think I be in my first stereogum verbal jab with a mr hanna, but I guess i payed too much attention to caring about a random dude’s zealous ill natured concern for my flowery ‘drug addled” posts about one of my favorite bands and my excitement therof. I don’t think I’ve “argued” in a forum since I was in the 9th grade. I love stereogum and you guys are a cool lot. I don’t dig condescending jerks though but since I’m a fragile musician I guess I’m entitled to write against the bully like mentality of getting pantsed online by some random feller. I usually have a better class then to call anybody an asshole. Sorry Mr Hanna. Diatribe over. Resume enjoyment of M B V, best album over.
What’s happening is that everyone is being very territorial and making it out to be like they are the only ones who are in love with My Bloody Valentine, they are the one and only experts about their music and thus, this entire comment section has in turn played out like the scenario I predicted it would be with everyone wanting to take this album out on a nice date unbeknownst to them that they were going to have sharing the pretty lady with hundreds of other qualified individuals.
I’ve read one too many times throughout here people claiming that others’ comments are trying to ruin their m b v experience. To those people I say that the only person who is ruining your m b v experience is you for being so juveniley selfish in believing that you are the only person in the world who would be excited for this moment. Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, but I feel like some of the attitudes being slung around here are no better than circa 2000 emo kids who are throwing fits because the popular bro or the weird kid or the pretty girl just walked through the school doors wearing a Get Up Kids shirt, and they were supposed to be “your” band that was all yours.
needless cat fight by two guys trying to make points that are totally subjective. Only on Stereogum.
No it’s not.
Yes, it is a fucking great album. And will likely be in my top ten of the year; it’s only February, so I’m not calling it just yet. HOWEVER, it’s not classic. Those first three tracks just seem out of step, like leftovers from Loveless. This is not to say they are bad, but they take away from the sense that this is a singular statement of an album. It’s really only on the fourth track when this album comes into it’s own. From then on, it’s amazing.
But no, it’s not on par with the albums you’ve listed. I’m glad you’ve enjoyed it as much as you have, though I feel there’ll be a bit of a comedown.
Dude, the album is comprised of three distinct suites of music that each serve a purpose in the grand scheme of things. There is a kind of emotional narrative going on, and those first three songs set the stage for the three that follow. This album has been plotted and sequenced carefully. If you’re not looking for any deeper meaning than what each individual song has to say…then yeah, I guess all you would get out of it is that these three sound different than what follows. The middle three also sound different from the last three, but without any supplementary commentary about the corresponding emotional narrative, that too is a meaningless observation. Oh the pain of trying to get people to think a little bit about the concept of “the album” in the iPod era…
throw us with your acumen and superfluous elaborations on nothingness…kind of like my well meaning post you insulted…so we are even…idiot.
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I am flattered to have written the “worst” post on the mbv thread ( subjective only to yourself). And indeed my major disorder is my inability to ignore irritating trolls as yourself. I am immensely grateful and proud to be myself. I hope you find a peace in yourself that enables you to retire the “asshole” persona. I am sure its merely a front for your condescending narcissism. Good day amigo.
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Dear heavens, you’re a mega troll! Are you bored? Wow. Good-Bye.
> Oh the pain of trying to get people to think a little bit about the concept of “the album” in the iPod era…
Jeezuz, thanks for the condescension.
I still think that the first three songs feel fragmented from the rest of the album.
I don’t hear it as three suites, but as three songs at the beginning, followed by a cohesive album.
Don’t talk to me about “the album” in the iPod era motherfucker. It’s only a minority of the time when I am NOT listening to albums in their entirety. So don’t come here and try and tell me how I listen to music.
You don’t know me! You don’t know me!
Mr Hanna is the surly “professor” so convinced of his superiority that its as humorous as it is sad. However I’m just as dumb for engaging in his lovely trolling. I don’t mind some good natured contention over which Smiths album is tops, ect. But oftentimes when someone has a sociopathic streak, they take it out quite expressively. And I’m the idiot who squandered keystrokes talking to the mean spirited pompous professor :)
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I disagree. For me, the first three songs work well with the rest of the album and are really strong on their own. Only Tomorrow is especially phenomenal—really catchy and at once hypnotic and invigorating—and my favorite album track at present.
It’s probably too early to call m b v classic, but if so, it’s definitely too early to say it’s not classic. All I know is that the first several listens have been highly pleasing, and I’m eager to hear it again the moment it’s finished.
listen, i love the album, but it’s the beginning of february. maybe we should hear other people’s albums before we start yelling out best of the year or definitely the decade. and of all time? let’s….slooooow down.
Okay I’m a freaking idiot. I added the album to my cart like four times but I don’t know how to get to the Checkout. Any help please? I’m still stuck in the Loveless era.
Dude, I swear I’m not tripping, but on my browser, that little “Basket” window is not showing up. It’s a blank screen on that side. Wtf.
Okay, for some reason it showed up on Safari but not Firefox. Weird. Mystery solved. Or at least, mystery dealt with.
Safari did something better than Firefox? That *is* weird.
Anyway, glad you sorted that out. Enjoy…
This is exactly what I need for my hangover Sunday.
I just remember turning out the lights and laying on the floor of the ol’ Mary Markley dormeroo and playing only shallow and to here knows when and soon relatively loudly. So I pretty much love the MBV, but is it possible that we’re over doing this? You know, I don’t know if it matters. It is fun to be excited about some little thing for once in awhile. Good show.
umich represent
After my first listen I’d have to say “In Another Way” is the standout track.
Still on repeated listens and it never gets old. Everything gets fresher and more exciting with each spin :)
phenomenal
I think it’s good, but I can’t tell because my mind melted into the couch as soon as those guitars sawed through the ether
I’m in love with the album, but I’m honestly not sure if it can compare to my former love of the mythologized version of the perfect album that would never actually make its way into the physical world.
Which is to say, while I’m extremely happy that this album exists and is now on my hard drive and iPod so I can listen to it whenever I want, I am still feeling a strange disappointed sensation that this album now exists in reality rather than the idealized world of mine and millions of other peoples’ imaginations.
Hype and expectation is a BITCH. Nothing lives up to it.
I’m just glad that I ended up with some reverse expectation due to my overwhelming desire for it to be perfect being punched in the groin by my fear that it will suck. I was pleasantly surprised when it was indeed a good album, and much MUCH better than I feared. Perfect? Well, it’s not Loveless. But it’s the logical, amazing follow up! I’m sure time will ease your/our expectations into a pure love.
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Internet fail. Anyway, I enjoy the album too.
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You sure you didn’t accidently download the soundtrack to the horrible My Bloody Valentine 3D film? That would make more sense…
“wonder 2″ isn’t aimless noise. It aims for the heavens.
first my bloody valentine album, eh?
Dear Michealunderscore,
Cool name,
Have you heard the new My Bloody Valentine record? I have. I came home last night after hanging out with my middle aged successful friends. I smoked my mediocre marijuana (sp?), put the record (LP) on and let it play.
Surprisingly, I woke up to the SAME RECORD playing in the morning while my attractive girlfriend was making me open-face toast topped with a poached egg (which was delightful) when I suddenly thought to myself:
“My goodness, that person they call ‘Michaelunderscore’ sure has some sand in his vagina!”
Upon realizing this ultimate truth, I took a sip of my heineken light, smoked my mediocre weed, and said…
“I remember my first time commenting on ‘STERE0GUM!!!?”
…… And everything was right in the world. Michaelunderscrum, I hope that one day you can remove the giant twig from your ass and listen to the brand new My Bloody Valentine record. It’s on vinyl, too. It sounds more pure that way. Maybe it will change your mind. If not, I will buy it for you on vinyl, so that (if you choose) you can listen to it, act like you don’t like it, and comment about it on the internet.
Mac,
and,
Chee$e?
P.S.: Michealunderdawg -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6I2Ek_j_Xc
At the end of the video you posted, A$AP Rocky wakes up alone in a cold sweat on the couch in some dark room. This awakening calls into question all the images that came before it, thus emphasizing how hopeless and unfulfilling the rap star fantasy can be for many aspiring artists. Not sure what you intended to convey by posting it, but it’s too sincere a video to be used to take a pointless cheap-shot at somebody who already knows he’s not exactly popular on this thread at the moment. But maybe I’m just misinterpreting your comment. . . . If it can be interpreted.
What was the significance of the toast and the poached egg? How successful are your friends? Successful at finance, family, or friendship? Why don’t you get some better marijuana?
I’m really upset with myself because I don’t really like it at all :(
You are forgiven. Upvote.
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One doesn’t need to read Simon Reynolds to realize that retromania has been a propulsive engine in pop music history. Nevertheless, there was a time where going forward and breaking new musical frontiers were some of the most readable narratives of pop’s libretto. And guess what? All of its protagonists had a fucking guitar on their hands. When it was released in 1991, My Bloody Valentine’s Loveless was obviously received as a great and colourful chapter of an on-going history previously written by innovative bands like The Beatles, Can, Joy Division, The Smiths and the Pixies, just to name a few. What we didn’t know then was that it would be the last. My Bloody Valentine’s new m b v is a shock, not only because two decades of waiting made my generation pretty suspicious about anything that came out of Kevin Shields’ mouth, but because it personally made me realize that two decades of Britpop, rock’n’roll revivalism and electronica flirts really didn’t quench my thirst for some loud, kick-ass, innovative and experimental guitar mayhem. My Bloody Valentine: thank you for reminding me that.
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In between the gaps between songs.
That’s like a trick!
Obvious (albeit superficial) criticism: 22 years and that’s the best album cover/title you could come up with?
I think I read somewhere that they haven’t actually finished the artwork yet. And I thought I was a procrastinator.
It couldn’t be more ’90s if it tried; I love it.
It is very ’90s in that it looks like the default wallpaper that would accompany a brand new Gateway desktop computer in 1995.
Is it me or is the overall volume of this album really low?
Then it would be exactly like a Loveless CD rip! That is probably a good thing- means it isn’t brickwalled.
Knowing Kevin (not that I actually know him) it is recorded in Dynamic Range/Analog instead of what has become the norm, Compression/Digital. Meaning that like Loveless you can turn this up as loud as you want and not lose one shred of detail from the track. His albums are meant to be played on hifi blaring at you, Immersing you in its cloud. So I suggest you take out the headphones and turn it up!
I don’t know that you don’t actually know Kevin. Are you holding out on us? You seem to be on a first name basis with him…
I doubled my volume at your suggestion. I am getting a beautiful headache and I’m really hearing the album beneath and within the album.
loveless is mixed low too, and yeah, Kevin has said that mbv was recorded in analog. The result of Kevin’s approach to mixing is that you can turn the album up as loud or louder than most albums without there being sound distortion. mbv albums also seem to have a way of expanding and revealing dimensions of sound as you turn up the volume. I had loveless forever before I liked it, and the reason was that I did not have it up nearly loud enough. It not only changed the way I listen to music; it also made me realize that a lot of modern music is poorly recorded and mixed.
Why is everyone tripping over themselves to rush their initial evaluation of this album out the door? It’s one of the best albums of all time! No it’s not, it’s messy! No, the first 3 songs are boring! No, the LAST two songs are boring! Jesus, y’all. Chill out and spend some TIME with this. This is MBV we’re talking about. Layers upon layers upon layers. You let your personal relationship with this album unfold and reveal itself gradually.
Good call. It’s not like we haven’t had 22 years to turn Loveless into the classic it has become.
Wait, did this really happen? I chose the wrong weekend to to go camping with no internet. FUCK ME.
nah, camping is far better than engaging in a real-time online circle jerk wherein you shout from the mountaintops how this is the GREATEST ALBUM OF THE YEAR (in february?) while trying to avoid mentioning the unspoken reality that you’re really just saying that in large part because of the backstory/band involved.
camping is awesome. it’s totally fine to listen to this on monday. you made the right choice.
This album is massive from start to finish. Enough with the Loveless comparisons, people need to get over it. The first three songs are absolute killer. Only Tomorrow is such a fantastic tune. That guitar melody in the outro, it’s sick. Almost has a glammy Roxy Music vibe about it. It doesn’t sound anything like what they’ve done before. The only similarities are the vocals and Kevin’s trademark playing style. They’re doing what only MBV can do and it’s a welcome breath of fresh air.
Alright, I’m about 6-7 listens in and I feel the need to say…
This is an EXCELLENT My Bloody Valentine album, it perfectly captures their idiosyncrasies and does so in a way that feels challenging but accessible. I don’t really understand people talking about it as a “progression”, because it’s pretty obvious to me that this is boilerplate MBV, this album could have been released 2 years after Loveless and nobody would have seen it as a huge step forward sonically.
OK so now the hard part. If this album had been made by any other band (and I understand this is kind of a useless hypothetical because MBV is SO of-a-sound) would the reception be this warm? Would this be an AOTY candidate?
I think there are some incredible highlights on this album (and would say “she found now” is actually even better than it’s being given credit for), but “nothing is” and “wonder 2″ are NOT GOOD. If I’m wondering if my mp3 player is skipping that DOESN’T MEAN IT’S A GOOD SONG JUST BECAUSE IT’S MY BLOODY VALENTINE.
I’m sure I’ll catch some flack for this assessment, but that’s ok; I did not have hugely inflated expectations for this album, and those expectations have been met, but not exceeded. All-in-all…
Don’t give up on those two tracks. I love them.
I hope you come around to like this album. I really do.
Half of what is enjoyable about mbv is their mastery of texture; nothing is is basically an awesome experiment in texture and disorientation disguised as a simple, hard-charging rock song. To me, it feels like being propelled toward the sky through during some sort of cataclysmic hailstorm. Hopefully, you are using the term “mp3 player” the way that some people say “Coke” when they just mean soda. If you really are listening to mp3s, it’s no mystery why the album’s two most interesting textural experiments are not really doing it for you. wonder 2 might actually be my favorite on the whole album. I was thinking that the next mix I make for somebody would end with that. I wanted to hear guitars do things I had never heard them do, and boy, Mr. Shields delivered.
*wav player
i do love all soda though
I agree. Listening to “wonder 2″ over and over again, I find myself thinking this isn’t a great “song” necessarily. But it is an AMAZING experience of texture and soundscape. On that note, a good majority of my favorite MBV “songs” are favorites because of the hypnotizing textures, not their inherent melody or chord structure, etc. That’s one of the main reasons this band sits apart from so many others. This isn’t the greatest album of all time by any means, but it’s a superb continuation of everything I love about the band. That’s all I wanted. That’s what I got.
The track I don’t care much for that and have a difficult time believing took 21+ years to conceive is “is this and yes,” but one track doesn’t represent my perception of the album as a whole. I’m surprised that no one is really discussing how quiet this album is using Loveless as a reference point once you get to its mid-section. I would say after repeated listens, a fair assessment as to how good m b v is at this point in time, it’s as rewarding of a comeback as Portishead’s Third was.
You’re disappointed that your expectations weren’t exceeded, and that’s it? So if you expected it to be total crap and it ended up being just kind of crap, would you be happy?
My bad, you did point out your expectations weren’t that high.
What I will give you is that this album’s reception has a lot to do with nostalgia. True, it sounds like it a logical, if not a tad expected, follow-up to Loveless. But in 2013, sounding like it came straight out of ’93 is part of the appeal. Is it as revolutionary as Loveless? No…but then again we’ve had 22 years to build that hype. I do think it is a very solid record, though, regardless. Being the second best album in a MBV catalog is still pretty damn acceptable to me.
nothing is will be a divisive track. I don’t blame people for not liking, though I personally do. wonder 2, on the other hand, was bold, beautiful, and breathtaking the first time I listened to it. m b v is no Loveless, but it smashed the shit out of my expectations and I think we’ll still be talking about and listening to it in three months. Only time will tell if we can throw words like “classic” around.
For me it’s already a classic :) Can’t stop playing it and the album gets stronger and more ingrained in my brain with every listen. I don’t recall this happening with another record since I was a teenager. What a welcome sigh of relief this record is! Have had a smile on my face since first hitting play.
Ill agree with you on nothing is and wonder 2. especially wonder 2, because everyone seems to be tripping over this particular song.
I dont know, all these years of listening to noise/experimental/ambient/insertwhateverobscure genre records have kinda spoilt me. I dove straight to wonder 2 and i was like, what is that it?
I don’t know a single person who instantly adored “Loveless” on first listen. It can be so disorienting and complex — especially if you aren’t really prepared for it. Similarly, it feels sort of wrong to try to judge this album after just a few listens.