Manhattan Vegan writes on his blog
“My note to the far-right would be: you can’t have it both ways. If you genuinely believe in the sanctity of life then you cannot support the death penalty and you cannot allow people to buy automatic assault weapons and you cannot support wars that result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people. And if you genuinely believe in states rights then you can’t pass intrusive federal legislation when the states do things that you arbitrarily disagree with.”
Meanwhile, the bald-headed one has a new album out. It’s called Hotel and I haven’t listened to it yet, but the cover of New Order’s “Temptation” has Pitchfork “longing for the halcyon days of Frente!.” Ha. I’m curious to hear it anyway. Anyone got an MP3 link?
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Oh my god… will ANYONE shut Moby the hell up already?
Anybody have a link the picture of the “Moby’s a Dick” graffiti? Anybody even know what I am talking about?
Sorry, but the man’s got a point. No one asked him for his opinion (does anyone? ever?) but he’s just dead on this time. Far rights and far lefts sometimes operate on contradictions. He’s just pointing out how ridiculous the far right is being in this particular instance. He’s especially on with the states’ rights issue. Makes me crazy.
I hate Moby. But I hate it more that I agree with him.
But does he realize it works both ways… You can’t be pro-choice and anti-death penalty under that logic either. I’m pretty sure he falls into that school of thought.
Even a stopped dead clock is right twice a day so Moby was due. Some of it is lucid, but “you cannot allow people to buy automatic assault weapons and you cannot support wars that result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people” is a childish, stupid remark that shows his ignorances. He sounds like an elementary school buttkisser trying to impress the teacher.
Being pro-death penalty means that there are sick fuckers in this world who squander their right to live. Not the same thing as the abortion of an unborn person who never did anything to anybody. Moby’s a twit.
Scot:
email me and I’ll send you a link to the album. I’ve had it for quite some time now.
Fd
Moby’s right (how often can we type that?)
the babyhuggers are just as bad as the taliban
he makes me want to eat a big hunk of meat and drive an SUV.
Moby could eat her. He’s a vegan and she’s a vegetable.
Being pro-choice and anti-death penalty does not fall under that logic. Depends on what you believe is happening with an abortion. If abortions were about killing kids after they were born because we didn’t want them or they were deformed in some way, I wouldn’t support it. However, before it becomes a life, that’s different. At least in my opinion.
I don’t love Moby either but hey, someone has to call the right wing fuckers out once in a while. The Democratic Party consists of a bunch of wimps.
The states’ rights point is valid, but the rest is simplistic garbage. Only an unsophisticated or willfully ignorant person is unable see that the positions he mentions are not necessarily logically inconsistent.
agreed, jennifer + why are bald people so wise?
The new Moby is crap, I assure you.
someone needs to pull the tube out of moby’s mouth.
oh wait, that’s a dick. my bad.
i likes me the new moby disc..
LOL @ Erin. That was classic, and proof that Moby is a meat eater.
man, i used to really like that frente record.
Forget shutting Moby up, would someone please tell the media that there are other stories in the news right now. IT’s all Schaivo this and Schaivo that and if anyone dies in this case it’s likely to be me killing myself out of sheer boredom.
leave moby alone yall. i don’t see what so wrong with him voicing his opinions in his own blog. god knows a lot of dumber people do it plenty.
also. being pro choice and anti death penalty is not a contradiction. last i checked the reason people are pro choice is not because they are pro death. though some pro lifers may argue otherwise.
When there’s scientific proof that an unborn baby isn’t yet a life, I’ll listen. Til then it sounds ignorant. Of course it’s alive. It has a heartbeat and moves around. You can be pro-abortion all you want but don’t try to couch it with “the baby isn’t a life until it’s born.” That’s retarded.
If I’m pro-death penalty, pro-choice, and a meat-eater, does that make me a sick fucker (by memememe’s standard) that women admire, yet still hated by Moby? I’m leaving the door wide open on this one… Enjoy.
less politics, more pop, please
I was hoping to find out how Moby felt on this as he is a beacon of moral and political judgement. (shudder)
There are lots of facets and things to consider in this case, and anyone trying to paint this as a left vs right thing isn’t really being honest about this situation, they’re just grandstanding for attention.
Note that I haven’t expressed my opinion in this post. That’s because it really doesn’t matter.
It’s my belief, if you don’t agree with it, cool.
I’ve heard Moby’s version of “Temptation” and let me just say, no matter how lucid his political views may be, his raping of that classic deserves some form of punishment. If you’ve ever wondered what melted poo would sound like, you’ve got it right there. Pitchfork may be occasionally insane, but they nailed that one.
And, Moby?
You can get stomped by Obie.
You can hear the mutilation of that lovely track (and more) here
http://tigrou.le.fou.free.fr/Moby%20-%20Hotel/
It’s just painful to see the backbone problems. You can be pro-abortion, that’s fine. Just own it, don’t make rationalizations. That’s what Moby does.
Sorry for the politics — blame Moby!
p.s., no it doesn’t make you a sick fucker. But sick fuckers are who the death penalty is for. Sick fuckers make their choices too.
Awww, I used to really love Frente!, but their cover of Bizarre Love Triangle was shitty. But still, they didn’t have Eminem rip the piss out of them right?
Moby’s got a place in the world for sure, just not in my music collection, yet he started out so promisingly…
BTW – Moby is 100% right about the hypocrisy of the republican party after its claims that they’re for smaller government. It’s dopey to say that this whole episode has changed anything with respect to states rights, but the grandstanding members of congress were sickening. Just wanted to make it clear I’m not a total enemy. But Moby still sucks!
moby’s right-whether he hate him or not.
forgegt moby, let’s all rally around Frank Rich. That dude’s right all day long, and he doesn’t make questionable adult/contemporary/pop/techno music.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/27/arts/27Rich.html?8hpib
“Moby is 100% right about the hypocrisy of the republican party”
Yup.
NOBODY IS RIGHT. NOBODY CAN BE RIGHT.
Katie, I just don’t think you’re right about that.
I’m right.
Personally, I’d rather hear Moby’s opinions or music over Obie or Eminem.
Does no one in the federal government watch Law & Order? You can’t subvert the rule of law on a case by case basis, states rights, yadda yadda. Funny how the right doesn’t cry “activist judges” when they agree with the activism at hand.
I worked on a book about former Supreme Court justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., and he faced the same sort of dilemma. He had to give dissenting opinions about an act that would outlaw child labor, because it was written from the perspective of interstate commerce; it was a state’s issue and thus out of the jurisdiction of the Court. His dissent wasn’t that he was pro child labor, but that since the case at hand was out of the Court’s purview, and the Court’s duty is not to write law or change law based on opinion and politics, that he must dissent in order to uphold the structure of law and government. End of nerd-out.
Anyway, upholding the rule of law is actually the crux of the case, not having a fuzzy soundbite opinion on either side. The fact that that “slippery slope” gets lost in the muddle–that near death of critical thinking, and I point nearly equally at the right and the left–is what frightens and anooys me.
Also I’d like to punch Moby in the cock, ’cause he sucks.
quit bellyaching, ya damn “liberals”! lol the supreme court won’t even touch this case so who are you arguing over? people who believe in the sanctity of life but have no power to save this woman’s life because her jackass husband who left her for another woman and has 2 other children pretends she told him he wanted to die when meanwhile her folks and siblings never heard such a thing? that asshole just wants schiavo out of his life for good. but you know what, he’ll get his due come judgment day, as will that miserable florida judge.
as for the abortion issue, tell me this, who has had an abortion ever in the history of time to not kill an unborn child? that’s what abortion is.
your abortion statement made no sense.
“ya damn “liberals”! lol ”
Ouch!
Re emily: sigh.
It is unfortunate when some people use their religious beliefs as a political battering ram. If everything will be righted on judgement day, why not stay out of something that is really only the business of the family and the courts?
Oh, and emily, maybe you should try to put a real email address when you flame on your fellow netizens: it’s just polite. If you want to flame at me, for instance, you can just click on my name!
Emily tighten your bible belt a little tighter, and look up the word abortion. Nevermind I did if for you.
(From Websters)
Main Entry: abor·tion
Pronunciation: &-’bor-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus: as a : spontaneous expulsion of a human fetus during the first 12 weeks of gestation — compare MISCARRIAGE b : induced expulsion of a human fetus c : expulsion of a fetus by a domestic animal often due to infection at any time before completion of pregnancy — compare CONTAGIOUS ABORTION
2 : MONSTROSITY
3 : arrest of development (as of a part or process) resulting in imperfection; also : a result of such arrest
see Emily sometimes it’s already dead when it is aborted. And im sure that there are alot of women “in the history of time” who have had a fetus die in their womb, resulting in termination of pregnancy a.k.a….abortion.
“see Emily sometimes it’s already dead when it is aborted. And im sure that there are alot of women “in the history of time” who have had a fetus die in their womb, resulting in termination of pregnancy a.k.a….abortion”
of course, it was a generalization and i just wanted to offer an alternate viewpoint, but those instances you bring up are in cases of miscarriage or situations when abortion was not sought out but the only option to remove the fetus (many other instances occur to remove the fetus when it will not survive) but those examples are not the same as abortion.
Dammit there’s a solution to all of this that satisfies everyone. Terri ought to be frozen in suspended animation by the Alcor company, so that she may be revived someday in a future when we can fix her brain. It’s the perfect solution!
sheesh…focusing on the minutiae of the dictionary definition of abortion is hardly the point in a discussion of abortion on demand. Yall need to go rally round Moby now. Oh and Britney’s knocked up according to The Star.
I feel like people who are into this Schiavo case and have views on “life” that are so strong without being a personal friend, these people would have to spend their entire day saving tons and tons of lives, like non-stop saints running in the streets saving the poor and homeless, etc., non-stop, they would give all their money to hospitals and save as many lives as possible, and live in co-ops.
no one is going to win this. let’s all chalk it up to moby is a moron, and we are even bigger morons for giving a shit.
Yeah. Let`s have sex instead. Using condoms of course. I do not want another discussion about abortion…
Moby, get a damn life son! I can’t believe this many people have responded to ANYTHING Moby has to say, We really should think for ourselves and not take advice from “B” class stars. That is the problem with America, we are always looking to see what someone else thinks before we give our opinion.
yeeee i have to agree with moby on this one, can anyone tell me why everyone hates moby? like i dont like him because he just looks like a weiner, but whats the real reason?