Speaking of Zeppelin, have you guys heard how much Pope Benedict XVI hates rock ‘n’ roll?
In November of ’96, Vatican hardliner Cardinal Ratzinger warned that heavy metal was an “instrument of the Devil” and endangered young people’s souls. The future Pope (who was in Opus Dei, Da Vinci Code stizz!) singled out these groups as the worst offenders…
- Pink Floyd
- The Rolling Stones
- Queen
- Led Zeppelin
- Black Sabbath
- The Beatles
- Alice Cooper
- AC/DC
… and of course …
- The Eagles
I miss the old Pope. That dude was really open minded when it came to music.
In all fairness Don Henley could be the Antichrist. I guess there’s no way to know for sure. Which Eagles song do guys think is MOST Satanic?
Also someone should tell Lindsay Lohan she’s going to hell.
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LAME!!!!
Sam Endicott for Pope!!
Gotta be Witchy Woman.
Gotta be “Love Will Keep Us Alive.”
“Take It Easy” is so bad it has to be the work of Beezelbub. You can practically hear them blowing rails off the studio mixing board on that track.
I second “Take It Easy.” Not only is it antichrist, the Eagles are the anti-sex. They really give me the cold-shower feeling.
the eagels simply, as a whole, are the anti-christ.
i dont mean to go big lebowski on everyone, but i fucking hate the fuckin eagels.
and lindsay looks like axel rose.
dylan played for the pope a while ago. very surreal.
THE BEATLES?!?!
that man has no appreciation for music…
what about christian metal?
does the new pope dig the new zao or the new extol or this http://christianmetal.ytmnd.com ?
Dude, I just spit out my coffee from laughing so hard. Yr so funny! Keep it comin.
Wow…way to show progress in the church, eh? Vote in a guy who is not only refusing to discuss women in the priesthood, but also thinks the Beatles are Satanic??? I hope they aren’t still wondering why I fled the Catholic religion and never looked back.
Holy Mother of God, I weep for the future.
Maybe The Eagles ARE the anti-christ. I push my support to “Love Will Keep Us Alive.” Or “Take It to the Limit.” And even if it seems that Henley gets to sit in the big chair, I think the underground workings are completely in the hands of Joe Walsh.
Back in 1986 he called it a “vehicle of anti-religion” which sounds like an awesome band name. Personally, I’m glad rock music is back in the cradle of Satan. God+Rock=Creed
“You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave! ”
hotel california is where satan stays while on vaca
Maybe not the most satanic but if I hear “Life in the Fast Lane” one more time…ah, who am I kidding, I’ll probably just change the station.
She was terminally pretty.
is that Lindsay Lohan or is that Jodie Foster?
Woohoo!
This churchgoing catholic is going to hell…yeah! Then again, I already knew that after I started siding with the pro-choicers and deprogramming myself from their propaganda.
well, he was right about the Eagles.
I think Lindsay somehow already knows she´s going straight to hell…
obvs by 1996 pope benny was into the grunge rock scene. hence the antipathy for the more earnest, old-school rock-n-rollers.
wow shes hot.
The Beatles are heavy-metal? Okay…
And I second “Hotel California.” That song is creepy.
I think Mick Jagger is a much greater candidate for the Antichrist than Don Henley….
FWIW, the Stones, Beatles and Led Zeppelin are indeed a wee bit on the Satanic side, what with the Crowley appreciation and all.
You all have it wrong.
The most evil Henley song in existence is “The End of the Innocence”
That songs licks the sweat off satan’s balls everytime its played.
ooops. i guess i have it wrong since you were looking for an Eagles track.
buts its still evil as the new pope.
Beatles and Zeppelin, huh? Well, there was that whole “playing the record backwards” thing a while ago. Not only is it satanic, but it messes up your turntable!
Record: Large, double-sided disc made out of black vinyl. Plays music by spinning at either 45, 33 1/3, or 78 rpms.
squirrel, bruce hornsby actually wrote that song. he does a waaaay better version of it. so did dylan on tour a few years ago.
Blu, What’s an RPM?
What, no KISS on the list? Kids In Satan’s Service? Ace, Gene, Peter, and Paul would surely be disappointed to miss out on the Pope’s Who’s Who of evilness in rock.
don’t worry he’ll be dead soon! he’s the oldest pope ever elected.
however, he is right about the eagles.
he seemed cool on Cheers.
everyone who’s been dating aaron carter should go to hell..(or maybe it’s the same thing?)
Norm, you just made me choke on my carnitas. Fucking brilliant.
Looks like Lohan is already in some kind of hell. Isn’t she 23 or so? Why does she look 45? Has Satan reneged on his deal?
For God’s sake, kids. Stay out of the sun. Stay out of the tanning booths. It makes you look like this.
And something tells me the only reason she’s wearing a Stones T-shirt is she saw Ashton wear one on “That 70s Show.”
(Man…I’m showing my age. Cranky today…)
she’s going to hell for wearing that ridiculous jacket.
what makes celebrities think that they can make ugly, hideous things look good. it’s just ugly.
What i’m wondering about is that breakdancer. How strange.
Didn’t the Ayatolla of Iran approve of Queen? How can Queen be okayed by an Islamic fundamentalist for an entire nation, but a Pope can’t give the thumbs up to that?
aaaand isn’t “Take is Easy” written by Jackson Browne?
co written by glenn frey & browne. it’s also on a browne album.
Um… “Life in the Fast Lane” is about as Satanic as a song can get. It’s three-pronged evil (just like Satan’s pitchfork!): 1) It’s about two vacuous bastards who are only good at screwing; 2) These unrepentant sinners take lots of drugs; 3) every time you hear the song, you are listening to the Eagles, which is pretty much the definition of hell.
I can’t begin to imagine how The Beatles, Pink Floyd, or Queen could fall into the heavy metal categoty…
People, whether the Pope or anybody else, should stop trying to analyze this stuff or looking for a hidden meaning. There isn’t any. To quote an AC/DC song “Rock n’ roll is just rock n’ roll”. To me, that says everything.
Huh…. I think someone needs to tell him what real metal is. I mean, some yeah, he got… but The Beatles?!? What the hell?!? Haha, he makes me laugh. I swear, my headache is now gone, I am cheerful yet again. Thank you Catholics! (All Catholics please disregard last comment!)
And she looks like a whore. And I would put money that IF (and that is a BIG IF) she has ever listened to the rolling stones, it was only because they became popular as people started to bring it back as a trend. Not just because of the music. But that is my opinion, I happen to not like Hollywood and all that crap….
But please, ignore me, and I’m sorry if anyone disagrees with me.
I just had a lot of fun telling my parents, who love the Eagles, that they are Satanists and going to hell. Next time they play it in the car “NNOOOO!! My ears bleed with the instruments of Lucifer. Burn in hell, bbuuurrrnnnnnnnnn!!”
she looks like mena suvari.
She looks like Whynona Judd and is that a map of the lower 48 states hanging around her neck?!!
Hey, “take it easy” on the Eagles!! Oh and BTW, I am the anti-christ, not Don. “Age of the Innocence” has nothing on “Smuggler’s Blues.”
“Take It Easy” – the live version where they yell, “Does anyone remember country rock?!” – that is of the devil…
Oops, I mean “End of the Innocence.” Sorry I was having a Timothy B Schmidt flashback. Now he was scary . . .
“You got down and did the gator. And half an hour later you were barfing all over your girlfriend’s shoes.” Don, what the hell kind of lyrics are these?!! “The Greeks Don’t Want No Freaks” is positively, the worst Eagles song ever. Ever!!
don henley stole my mother’s purse. i don’t know if that makes him the devil but it sure pissed us off.
Does anyone have a link to that video of those breakdancers that visited pope johnpaul? I think stereogum should dedicate a new post to that video, and to http://christianmetal.ytmnd.com
u guys its really mean to make fun of the pope, i mean i dont go to church every sunday and i am not obsessed with the pope or ne thing but the eagles and others r really scary and “anti-christ” i mean its their life and they chose wut they want to do, and heavy metal is like a devil instrument (I HAtE HEAVy mETAL)
and by the way lindsay looks UGH disgusting…oh wait she always wwas
is she still dating that 50 year old guy, i mean lindsay get a grip
and just a question dont u think lindsay is gay? she probobly has made out with her ugly, skinny friend PARIS HILTON
if you take out the “ot” in hotel, you’ve got hell. WELCOME TO HELL!
Personally I think that Pope Benedict XXXVII needs to be taken down a notch or two!! Messin’ with the Beatles, well hell, that just ain’t right!!
Glenn Frey was buddies with Don Johnson, so what more evidence do you need? I’m tellin’ ya, this new pope is gonna crack down on a lot of people, man, a LOT of people… he’s gonna make J. Edgar Hoover seem like a girl scout.
Er, no pun intended with the girl scout remark… heh heh.
well, anyone who dated stevie nicks then dumped her is obviously hellbound.
Don’s johnson. heh heh heh!!!
Get me the name of the Guy who’s doing the whirling, twirling thing on his head’s Chiropractor.
Cool pic of the pope. Think he should be spinning Rain Inside from these guys:
http://www.flannemouth.com
Totally Bravado!
I was under the impression that the Beatles had long ago been declared bigger than Christ. Shouldn’t that exclude them from this list?
And PS, doesn’t the Pope’s list turn you on, the way the warning labels on cigarette packs do?
To Brittnay:
The world isn’t as scary as you seem to have been taught that it is. And it’s not “mean to make fun of the pope.” He’s in a position of incredible power, and he’s proliferating a dogma of intolerance and separatism. He is the one to be scared of, not the Beatles.
Which sounds nicer? The Beatles sang, “All you need is love.” The pope’s message is easily paraphrased as: God hates fags (unless they’re priests) and women aren’t the equal of men.
Gimme John, Paul, George and Ringo any time.
to brittnay:
it’s okay sweetheart, to come out from under that rock once in a while. go to best buy, buy a beatles album, then come back and tell me that’s heavy metal.
to puddin’:
you are a closed-minded piece of shit who needs to stop believing in the religious stereotypes you hear about on MTV. go spew that i-hate-organized-religion-rawr crap somewhere else. cuz the last time i checked this site was called stereo-gum. stereo implying music and having little or nothing to do with pope-bashing.
Dahling g3ko gurl,
You know nothing about me. I haven’t watched MTV in years, and I probably wouldn’t be getting my religious news and views from them even if I did. I do my own research, thank you. Tell me where I’m wrong about the pope, instead of laying a trail of insults to cover your lack of argument.
With regard to the rest of your vitriol, should I bother with the “pot calling the kettle black” scenario? Nah… But I do want to at least say that Scott brought up the pope and his wacky views on music. Do you think I frequent this site just to inject pope comments wherever I can? Hell no! I’m waiting for Britney to fuck up again!
Have you noticed the disturbing similarities between Pope Benedict and the emperor from Star Wars? http://pope.funpic.org/
And then what about bands like Christian Death or Mayhem? It’s like we are still in medieval times.
yea he probably wouldn’t be a big sabbath or cooper fan but come on…pink floyd’s the wall album sings lots of anti-war songs. beatles sang many many love songs, so did zeppelin..and they were all poetic. so this is soul endangerment? i don’t have a problem with more modern bands like manson but i think they’re worse offenders.
By the way the pope is the most overrated person on the planet. Hope you get assassinated you close-minded geezer.
Alice Cooper became a christian a couple years back and turned his life around, so before anyone (even the pope) goes condemning anyone to hell they should probably consider the thought of people changing. I’m personally a Christian, not catholic though, but condemning people to hell because of what they sing or do, when Jesus hung out with prostitutes, makes me sick. I can’t believe in a God who would condemn his children because they listen to John Lennon singing “Give Peace a Chance”. So I’m gonna continue listening to Led Zeppelin, even though Jimmy Page had interests in the occult, and the Beatles, even though John said that they were bigger than Jesus. They still have amazing music.
The Pope is very ill-informed about the truly Satanic bands. He should listen to Emperor, Dimmu Borgir, Death Funeral or any of hundreds of truly Jesus hating, violent, extreme heavy metal bands. He might as well get his facts straight if he wants to really attack decadent culture.
Where did lindsy lohan get her rolling stones top from i want one, but i live in england so plz say i can get one from there???
“They stab it with their steely knives but they just can’t kill the beast” – yes, my vote goes to H(ot)el California any time :)
what is this site talking about eagles evil lol i am gonna laugh about this all day
It does make a difference that he said it before becoming Pope rather than after. I wonder where the quote comes from…is it a newspaper interview or what?
As far as the Beatles go, I do have to admit “Imagine” makes me want to stab the radio and vomit. “Imagine there’s no heaven…” Yeah, I’d rather not. And then they go and sing “Let It Be” and I have to like them again. I love AC/DC, but not because of their lyrics. On the other hand, I can certainly see both Led Zeppelin and the Eagles as part of a massive satanic plot to…ummm…boost sales of Valium?
Maybe eventually people will be able to separate the rock sound from the lifestyle that has become popularly associated with it. I can’t personally find too much fault with an old German prelate thinking AC/DC is satanic after hearing Highway to Hell or Hell’s Bells. (Similarly for Alice Cooper.) It’s not Ratzinger’s specialty, and there are certainly people who take it as satanic anyway. I don’t blame him for not studying up on *real* satanic bands, myself .
I’m glad to see the reference to JP II. Who is that on the floor in those pictures?
The pope condems many of the worlds greatest rock musicians as evil and satanic just because they play music that he dislikes whilst he himself was once a nazi soldier fighting for Hitler. Is it just me or does anybody else think there’s a bit of irony there?
catholics have been deceived satan is laughing at your ignorance salvation can only be achieved by one thing and that is the true christ not some blue eyed blonde haired devil that this abomination of a church has preached or some pervert in a collar says there is only one mediator between humans and god and it certainly not some wolf dressed in a black and white sheeps suit the crucifixion is blasphemy it is used to remind us of the death of christ by the roman catholic lie jesus has risen there is no reason to display this he is beyond this mortal coil and always shall be i hope this does not sound crazy to you because if it does you have been deceived god loves all
Two words: Cannibal Corpse
I still remember when a Cannibal Corpse album first appeared at the college radio station I was at – we were rolling on the floor laughing at the lyrics printed on the back. I can imagine some poor Catholic bureaucrat sitting the Pope down with this lyric sheet – not laughing at all.
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/cannibalcorpse/eatenbacktolife.html
If you can get through a whole album of this, you will either develop a sense of humor or an acute psychosis.
Alot of you anti-Catholics need to get your facts straight before you spew your hateful insults, I’m writing this in hopes to mabey bring at least one of you back on track and not down this mindless road of nonsense. Not to sound like I have an ego, but I’m a smokin guitar player, and have worked with some great musicians, played live shows, gotten some amazing reviews etc.. influenced by The Beatles, Zep, Ozzy/Sabbath, old Aerosmith, Crowes, Faces, Allmans, Clapton, Floyd, etc… Every one of which was or is an amazing musician, but guess what, none of them are your God, and none of them know or probably even care that you exist, and there’s a good chance that alot of them wouldn’t even give you the time of day. I never stopped believing in the Catholic faith but, rock and roll, sex, pot, booze, cigarettes was all I cared about, and I’m still struggling to overcome those sins. The teen years are TOUGH, and that lifestyle can seem like the best thing ever, but it’s not. Heaven or Hell, is a CHOICE made by a human being in thier lifetime, it is the reason why we are living this life, and only by the Grace of God do you get another day to make that choice. The worst pain of Hell, according to some Saints that were given in depth knowledge of that terrible place is the loss of God, and the loss of Heaven forever. I started getting into rock music in elementary school in the 80′s. First the Beatles, then Aerosmith, Zeppelin in middle school, Sabbath in High School, B.Crowes after high school. I wanted nothing else but to be like them, make music as good as them, play guitar as good as them, look like them, etc.. Sin is what seperates us from God, Mortal sin unrepentant, and without confession is what causes us to lose God, and Heaven in eternity, (after life). In life we are living in time, (hard to understand I know), but it’s beyond our human knowledge for now. Rock music promotes lots of sin… sex outside of marriage, drug, and alcohol consumption, live fast die young, It started in the 1950′s (not too long ago if you look at how old the world is), into the sixties with all the pot, acid, Timothy Leary tune in drop out crap, throughout the 70′s to the eighties with all the pentagrams, and satanic imagery, into the 90′s with the Marilyn Manson type anti-religion, anti-Christ, dark, morbid, terrible brainwashing. John Lennon also had alot of anti-religion, anti-Christian lyrics, and statements, having nothing to do with the Beatles being bigger than Jesus. The devil, was once an Angel people, Angels are musical creatures, and the whole rock and roll/devils music debate that has gone on since it came out makes perfect sense to me. After all the years of time and effort I’ve put into practicing, and playing rock and roll, I’m at a level now, where I could probably go anywhere, and play on a national stage. I don’t want it anymore. We only live once, life is serious make your choice wisely, If anyone wants to look into the faith its as simple as typing some words into your search engine. Some suggestions for you are: Padre Pio, Sr. Lucia, The Miracle of the sun, St. Francis of Assisi. I Hope this can help any of you. God Bless
Oooh, I get to rant!!!!
Everyone knows that the devil has always had the best tunes! I think that people would rather party to AC/DC and Zep rather that Amazing Grace anyday!
And secondly, the pope and the catholic church can kiss my sinner-headed-for-hell ass!!! Those that know the bible know that the catholic religion is a crock of sh*t! It says NOTHING about a pope. NOTHING!!! Yet, popes throughout the ages have claimed to have powers of God. What does the bible say about that? It says that ANY man who claims to be GOD is a DECEIVER!!! And all that “Holy Mary” crap? The bible says NOTHING about Mary being the mediator between us and God. NOTHING!!! It says that Jesus is the ONLY mediator between us and God. And confessing sins to a priest? *makes jerking off motion* Show me ONE place in the Bible where it says that sins confessed from one man to another will be forgiven by God. It doesn’t, you know why? Because a man confessing his sins to another man means NOTHING in God’s eyes!!!
So go to the catholic confessional booth and confess all the sins you want to the priest, feel all forgiven and warm and yummy inside, and when you die you will go to purgatory until you’ve paid for your sins. Oh, WAIT! The Bible says NOTHING about a purgatory! NOTHING!!!!
But you don’t want to go to hell? Then you better become a priest, monk, or a nun, right? WRONG!!! The Bible says NOTHING about priests, monks, or nuns! NOTHING!!!
So what are you going to do? Maybe pray to St peter, st paul, st kermit, st elmo, or one of the “saints” that answer prayers, according to the catholic church, right? WRONG!!!! The Bible says NOTHING about praying to “saints”!! NOTHING!!!!
Oops! I was wrong about that. It says that praying to anyone or anything other that God is considered idolatry and is a sin.
So pope, if your reading this, I’ll see you in hell one day! Maybe we will enjoy a bottle of hot lava together!!
And as for rock n roll, it is dead!! (bummer) Yeah, thats right!! when was the last time a REAL rock band had any real success in the current music world?? Oh, there are a few bands that have had a few hits here and there, but to rule the music scene like the Beatles did in the 60′s, like KISS did in the late 70′s, like GnR did in the late 80′s, filling up arena’s until there wasn’t even enough room to fart, it doesn’t happen anymore!!! (whats a rant without a huge run-on sentence?) And it never will again. I love my rock, hell yes. But it appears that rock had its run. And a good run. Better than country, that gave up such a fight in the 50s not to be overtaken by R&R. Actually, country is doing better than rock is!! They at least have their own TV and radio stations. Oh, rock does too. But who watches? About .001 percent of everyone out there. The rest is “classic” rock, the only rock that some people at least give a little respect to (i.e. Linsey Lohan).
Well, all this ranting makes me want to defacate, so I think I’ll go and spew out some more crap elsewhere!
You guys…read the lyrics to One of These Nights in the context of human sacrifice…end of fuckin’ debate.
I’m laughing my sinner ass off right now. I’m sitting here in a Catholic Church (I work here-YES I HATE it but it’s only temp and I needed this job to pay bills until my next one starts), a job that I LIED TO A PRIEST to get(I had to tell them that I was an every-Sunday church going Catholic who believed in and would preach the “Catholic Message” ROFLMFAO!!!)and that I have to be completely 100% different then my normal self!! Screw you pope. I saw the Stones in Regina ( a concert that was not in my home town-I told work that I was going to a family wedding bc I didn’t think the Stones were in keeping with “Catholic Values”-Whoops,I LIED again!) and I’ve never felt more positive and ALIVE in my whole life!! Seriously. The pope could NEVER make me feel this way…let alone inspire me to come from out of town..hell I wouldn’t even go to see the pope if he was in my own back yard! Now I will part with these intellectual words of Forest Gump: “That’s all I have to say about that.”
hmm, but it doues say in the bible that some people can forgive sins in G-d’s name…
Hell, smell, do tell, and i can not tell you how old this snake oil is. Heaven and Hell both smell. Jimmy Page can play guitar. Music is evil. Bill Monroe is a demon. Pag blisters a violin to smoke.
Only one thing, who brings in more dollars with the words “In God We trust”. Who really cares. I am too tired to even worry about it. I think the Pope guy is strung out and not really worring about whatever he is saying. Oh, well, as long as he is not knocking on my door. I could care less. later….. Guitar Tom
JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHAT MUSIC THE PAPACY PROMOTES AND CONDEMNS!
OBVIOUSLY, priests love Gregorian chant. And apparently the Pope loves Mozart — even if Mozart fled from his master-bishop in the eighteenth century and supported the Freemasons in Die Zauberflote.
In more recent times, of course, when the Spanish anarchist, and the Italian and German Jews wanted some Pope or other to condemn the Nazi hym-sheet, one could not be found: the Vatican was shtumm! Why did the Papacy never condemned this entry either in Germany,
Austria or Croatia:?
You Tube at:
http://www.youtube.com
?It’s true, you can never find a Pope when you most want one. But that is not the current predicament. The ‘swing’ that the Fueher condemned is back in controversial vogue in the Vatican. Pope Benedict XVI who is in a unique position to appreciate the Nazi hymn-sheet, not least because he served with the Wehrmacht and is perfectly familiar with these dulcet tones of the above marches. Now, however, he has decided to condemn Rock ‘n Roll. Not having a wife or children — that is, no one in the Vatican whose lives, customs and habits he could refer to, he must turn for guidance to colleagues who are also, unfortunately, aging men like himself — and all of whome have, like himself, have foresworn family life. And yet they can somehow come to the conclusion (one suspects more from from deductive rather than inductive logic) that Rock ‘N Roll is something to be condemned.
Presumably , the ban on Rock includes Tina Turner. If Satanism is the yardstick by which Rock ‘N Roll should be condemned, then Ms Turner is surely guilty. She is positively the queen of witches — even witchier than Queen!
So, is this rock-classic to be condoned or condemned also?
?Tina Turner-The best?04:09 From: BamonRe?Views: 159,145
YouTube at ?www.youtube.com
?And what about Dvorak’s waternymph? Whatever else she is , she is no christian. Waternymphs are invariably pagan; for while Christians see miracles and ‘moving statues’, waternymphs bay at the moon for human love. And Renee Fleming in her ‘Chanson a la Lune’ is every bit as hexifying as Tina Turner. Morever, the Christian has seen fit to cut out all pagan knowledge from the known world and still practises it in the third world. He has incorporated his acts of vandalism into what he calls Cannon Law — the code of Roman priestcraft. So, having burned the heretics of Rock ‘N Roll at the stake of a celibate Papacy, the chalk-loving schoolmen of the Vatican may well turn their wrath on this Waternymph — in whose orisons be all our wishes for a religion-free world remembered :
?Fleming – Dvorak?07:41 From: fernandoclassic?Views: 46,670
http://www.youtube.com
Maybe, on reflection, there is one we can all agree to listen to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYsSWU-cnEw&feature=related
It must be truly wonderful to be Infallible! And to know what is good for everybody else!
Seamus Breathnach
http://www.irish-criminology.com
CORRECTION!
WHY NOT JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHAT THE POPE CONDEMNS!
Seamus Breathnach 02 Jan 2008 20:55 GMT
Ireland
WHY NOT JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHAT THE POPE CONDEMNS!
Is Rock ‘N Roll to be condemned or is it just that the Pope is looking for some controversy? Some way of dividing youth.
WHY NOT JUDGE FOR YOURSELF WHAT THE POPE CONDEMNS!
Just to get it clear this time, for Der Papst has many hatreds to tell us about. They stretch over so many centuries that we — the faithful followers — cannot keep track of them, even with the aid of armies of priests, nuns, bishops, Opus Dei and the like — not to mention the billions and billions of taxpayers’ monies in every country.
The neurotic legions of the Pope’s liege lackies — the hidden thousands of Opus Dei warriors, spread out in every Civil Service, Police Force, Parliament, Law Library and Judges’ Bench in the Western world — were out in force telling us that John Paul 11 was a rock star, he even played the guitar and told them in Austria (believe it or not) to make babies. What do Catholic schools need most? Catholic Austrian babies! (As it happens, the black non-catholic babies in Ireland can’t even get into a school — the church owns them all, while the ‘Republic’ looks on. ! And the Roma are not Catholic enough to stay in Catholic Ireland either!)
Now, a few years later, we get another Pope, but I don’t think the message is really different. It’s just that the liege lackies are given web-sites all over the world, so that they can blog themselves to a drug-like sleep every year without a hint of what they said they year before. Some say the Vatican is buying into Google to save the souls of bloggers. The idea of history and integrity (secular integrity,that is) are unheard of in the religious bubble.
But judge for yourself, what the Pope is up to. What exactly is the Pope saying about Rock?
The Vatican, apparently, is concerned that young people are being exposed to Satanism through the media, of rock music and the Internet.
Under medieval Canon Law (1172) all priests — the ones with the holy fingers — can perform exorcisms. But in reality only a select few are ever called on to do so.
Personally, I attribute all this nonsense to the denial of woman — and all these pedophelia cases are a reflection on the proprietorial notions of what must be a perverted church.
Without going into the history of either music or the Vatican’s peculiar notions of music or morals , let us put the argument in a simple context. Needless to say the Vatican is not condemning the infinitely lugubrious tones of Gregorian Chant. Neither is he condemning Mozart, and that’ s not because Pope Benedict XV1 dabbles on the old harpsichord or whatever. But when poor Mozart was alive, he could not get away from Bishops, especially Bishop Colarado, his master. Indeed, in the Magic Flute he ran for sanctuary into the Freemason’s camp, where the apostolic succession went back — not to Rome , but to Egypt: Isis and Osiris.
In more modern times, of course, when the world wanted a Pope or two with a little god-damn pluck to ban music, the Spanish, the Italians and the German Jews could not find one. For example, the Papacy never condemned this entry:
You Tube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhS4px-xuqU#5IAG_j6JXes
waffen ss march viktoria seig heil & leibstandarte nazi
06:15 From: HEALSWASTIKA
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or this:
You Tube at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxL0w90dZdI&feature=related
Erika
02:21 From: vaticinator
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Isn’t it the truth , you can’t find a music-condemning Pope hanging around the corners of the Vatican when you most need one. But that was years ago, when the Fueher also condemned certain forms of music among the myriad of things that did not go with his swastika.
Pope Benedict XVI is in the unique position to remember both of the above tunes, because he served the Wehrmacht with these dulcet tones in his ears. Now, he has decided to condemn rock, as in Rock ‘n Roll. He has no wife and he has no children — that is, no one in the Vatican whose lives, customs and habits he could refer to for guidance over the last sixty years. Indeed, his main informers are aging men who, like himself, have foresworn family life. And yet they can somehow (from deductive rather than inductive principles , on suspects) come to the conclusion that Rock ‘N Roll is something to be condemned. Presumably , that includes Tina Turner; for if Satanism is the yardstick of why it should be condemned, then the Pope should know that she is positively the queen of witches — even witchier than Queen! Is this ,then , to be condemned also
Tina Turner-The best
04:09 From: BamonRe
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMbtzalS3u8&feature=related
And one should not forget that Dvorak’s waternymph. Waternymphs are invariably pagan; for while Christians see miracles and ‘moving statues’, waternymphs bay at the moon for human love. And Renee Fleiming in her Chanson a la Lune is every bit as hexifying as Tina Turner. And since the Christian has cut out all pagan knowledge from the known world, the most horrific example of that excision being , of course, the case of Pagan Ireland, where the people don’t even remember the initial Christian treachery or , or , for that matter, the sound of their own native language. Having burned the heretics of rock to the stake, will the ignorant old men of the Vatican then turn on this Waternymph, in whose orisons be all our longings recalled:
Fleming – Dvorak
07:41 From: fernandoclassic
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You Tube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lbJ1MaDeo
One must wonder if the Infallible One is badly advised. Maybe the old celibate grind has kicked in to bad effect, or maybe it was his conversation with Habermas .
Seamus Breathnach
http://www.irish-criminology.com
THE BATTLE FOR RUSALKA
WHO IS THE THE REAL RUSALKA — ANNA NETREBKO OR RENEE FLEMING?
When Renee Fleming was asked in an inverview what aria she liked to sing most, she replied instantly:
?The Song to the Moon, from Rusalka, is my signature piece.?
I don’t think people in general understand to what lengths Ms Fleming has gone to sing this song as she does. Amongst other things, she has
shamelessly broken all Dvorak’s rules to do so. In the process, moreover, she has left all other Divas at an unutterable disadvantage.
I cannot conceive of a more apt comparison than that sung by the very
polished Ms. Fleming and the coleen from Krasnodar, Ms Netrebko.
While both Divas, Russian and American, are utterly adorable, I have to
confess a weakness. I am incurably in love with Anna Netrebko?s girlish ways and Russian voice. Above all else, I want to hear her sing Russalka at her best. As painful as it is to admit it, I feel at the moment that she has to learn some more discipline: and what?s even worse — she has to learn it from Ms Fleming! Indeed, she cannot learn it from any other living Diva. There is no other way! I believe that Anna Netrebko can be the best Rusalka that (n)ever lived only if she can learn something — something very precious — from Ms.Fleming.
What could one accomplished Diva possibly learn from another? And how are all other Divas at an unutterable disadvantage? Surely these outrageous statements require an explanation — if not an apology!
If one might be permitted to apologise after one has explained, the apology will be better appreciated. But first one should listen to these two Divas ostensibly singing the same song. Let us listen to Anna Netrebko first, paying special attention to the final few
notes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iLqXZHO45o&feature=related
The irritating props aside, this is really a wonderful Rusalka. As ever, her voice is delicious; it is like dark chocolate. It is heavenly, glorious, full and rich, as a rose is rich. But there is the suggestion of a serious fault. It occurs in Rusalka?s finish.
Now let us listen to Renee Fleming?s interpretation of this ?same? aria:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lbJ1MaDeo
Anyone with an ear to hear will appreciate the colossal difference in the
interpretation of the final cadence. But since the cadence is the climax, it sums up the whole song. Don?t let anyone tell you that the tail does not wag the dog; without a tail, the dog, the fish and the Diva are apt to lose their balance. And in a Diva this is fatal.
In Fleming’s cadence , therefore, we can see that all her labours are rewarded; sedulously, she harvests all her previous toil and gathers it into a most poignant climax, which becomes by right the cornucopia of the aria?s emotional angst. Anna Netrebko, however, even if blessed with an unbeatable voice and a language advantage, allows her labours in the end to be squandered. She lets her work throughout the aria slip like a trifle , and the overall effect is that the technique of Fleming defeats by far the natural outpourings of Anna Netrebko!
In some ways, of course, is not Anna’s fault. But, then, whose fault is it? How come these two Divas seem in the final cadence to be ostensibly singing from two identical scores that sound so different? Is it the fault of her minders, trainers, and teachers?
I have said that the two Divas sang ?ostensibly? from the same song.That is what we are led to believe. And in so far as ?Song to the Moon?, was written by Dvorak in G flat Major and in ? time, that is the case. But in examining the aria?s final cadence, we find a most remarkable contrast between that sung by Netrebko and that sung by Fleming. Only then does it dawn on us that the Divas could be singing from totally different scores. In conjoining the climax to the final cadence, the emotional prayer of the Water-nymph has been one of exponential proportions. It is this that needs to be explained.
The aria has been so constructed by Dvorak that the final cadence — indeed, the final few notes — are the moment of the aria’s climax. To bring both climax and final cadence together is no mean feat on Dvorak?s part ; it demonstrates his genius in these matters.
But this cadential climax is also unusual in another way. In order to enhance its impact, Dvorak allows the cadence to dawdle close to a recitative base, then with the speed and assent of the entry to Nessun Dorma, it rockets upwards in sequential momentum to the high B flat in the Soprano?s register, and only then crashes — dives, in fact — to a sudden sub-aquatic tonic.
It is truly wonderful stuff: this final cadence alone is the female version of Nessun Dorma!
But how, one might ask, is it claimed that the Divas are singing from a different score?
To understand what has happened is not easy.
if we listen to several Divas, all singing the exact same aria — say, Lucia Popp, Gabriela Benackova, Milada Subrtova, Anna Netrebko and Renee Fleming — it will soon become evident that Ms Fleming — not Anna Netrebko — is the odd Diva out. All the rest sing Dvorak’s Rusalka as directed.
Maybe the directions are the problem; for notwithstanding his emotionally powerful lead-in to the cadential climax, Dvorak — perhaps for other reasons — only devotes two thirds of a bar to the high B flat, or , in any event, devotes a short note and a short-circuited resolution to the climax he has otherwise so meticulously prepared for something more exciting. It sounds great. But if you listen to any of the Divas — or as in this case, to Anna Netrebko — you will hear this final, somewhat sudden — almost chastising — descent at the end. Indeed, one may go away with the feeling that one has heard a splendid aria, well sung. Tens of thousands come to ‘You Tube’ to hear
it. But It is only when you listen to Renee Fleming?s singular interpretation that it dawns on the audience that a much more revolutionary Rusalka is present.
Rusalka has prayed that the Moon might send her princely lover to her. After her prayer, she (as in Netrebko) submerges herself like a submarine with girlish haste and almost Christian contrition. As we have seen, Ms Fleming does not come in a bikini; she is not in a swimming mood, nor is she likely to be fobbed off. If anything, she is furious; she refuses to submerge so readily. Indeed, she has prayed most fervently — movingly, in fact — to an indifferent moon; but, now that it becomes time for her to take her departure, she refuses to play the role of the fat lady: she simply will not budge unil she has had her say. She remains on in office unapologetically defiant, with anger in her eyes, terror in her tongue and revolution in her heart. She is Christina or pagan to whatever end may come, but that end cannot be indifference!
Where all the other Divas have gone, Ms Fleming will not go — not even for Dvorak! So, when Ms Fleming (as Rusalka) climaxes, there is no scurrying into the safety of a Czech lake. On the contrary, the earth trembles. When she reaches the high B flat in the final cadence, far from bailing out modestly, she holds on to the B flat ?for bare life? (if one might use such an apt expression): and she seems to hold on to it forever, which is maybe twice, three times, ten times, longer than any other Diva (including Anna Netrebko) : so long, in fact, that the orchestra have packed it in and taken their break, while Ms Fleming, still vibrating ?in flagrante delicioso?, sees the aria through to the
last syllable of its emotional obligation : ?durchgefuert?, as Schonberg would say! In this climax, she is the consummate creative artist – and I personally don?t care too much that she sings Czech with an American Spillvill accent: (which, incidentally ,was where Dvorak spoke Czech to his Czech friends and
ex-pats.)
Like a tigress protecting something primordial , and red in tooth and in claw, she wrings and tears at the tune?s hind-quarters until the entire aria is purged of its anaemic short breadths. She holds the aria to its organic high promise. She compels and hurls it to its logical and emotional conclusion. There she stands above the Gods on Olympus, vibrating in catharsis a B flat with which she consciously purges all that has preceded it , until the emotional charge has travelled cap-a-pe from its first to its last tonic, and has flowed into its final moonlit syllable. Only then are all issues resolved, only then is the aria
allowed to close, not so much with a whimper as with a whimper after an earth-shattering, all-merciful, mother of all rumbles in the jungle!
Renee Fleming has re-written Dvorak; Dvorak would hardly recognise ?his? aria or understand the emotional re-orientation. In many ways,therefore, Rusalka has become more Fleming than Dvorak, more American than Czech.
The only question pending is ; has she done the music and Rusalka a
service?
By her prolongation of one well-chosen, emotionally strategic note, she has changed utterly the whole tone, balance, meaning, emotional discharge and general aesthetic of the Water-nymph’s entire aria. In her person and in her performance a terrible, scorching, searing beauty is born!
But further, she has transformed Rusalka? s B flat into an interminable primal scream — a demand for human love from a cold world and a cold moon. In true pagan if not in American style, Ms Fleming commands the moon to provide her with a lover — predating the Judeo-Christian opportunity to leap in and claim that Christianity would provide it, if the pagan moon didn?t . Of course, the one remedial belief is as cold and barren as the other, but Ms
Fleming?s impatience and anger, is immediate and modern. Russalka is the life-giving, life-affirming fertility of Sile-na-gig, or what many have called the ?divine feminine?. She is not prepared to live without love — nor will she put up with the excuses of a male-dominated monogamy or a cold and distant moon.
Personally speaking, I can?t imagine any self-respecting Czech Water-nymph complaining about the new arrangement. It is true that Rusalka has undergone a process that is otherwise known as transubstant-iation, that is, where the nymph changes from an uncrucified but pining mermaid at the mercy of the moon, into a goddess, a Diva, that commands the natural order. The Diva commands the moon (and the natural world order) to do onto women what is no more than its fertile and servile duty. From a plea and a prayer to a pagan command is not an easy transition, but Ms Fleming has accomplishes it in spades – so much so , in fact, that shehas now probably made this beautiful pagan hymn unsingable in any other way except her way.
And I for one am most grateful for it, not least because it is the specific business of the Diva to protect the Water-nymph, whose entire species is very much in jeopardy of extinction at the hands of world religions and other male war-mongers. But that’s a story for another day!
When I shall hear Anna Netrebko singing Rusalka from Ms Fleming?s hymn-sheet , I will know that Water-nymphs shall have been saved, that I shall have gone to Heaven, and that all my prayers as well as my apologies shall have become redundant!
Seamus Breathnach
http://www.irish-criminsology.com
what the fuck are you talking about dude? are you tripping acid? go back to back to the street corner you communist.
satanic music is metal.. mayem, marduk, deicide,impaled nazerene,cradle of filth,childreen of bodom, moonspell and more… kiss…… what a hell is that…
are you crazy guys?
The most satanic is: symphaty for the devil by rolling stones! Listen it by axel rose….
The eagles are heroes…
dude are you joking! the beatles are far away from satan!!! They even mad a song about PEACE! duh! man who ever belives this crap has serious brain issues.
Beatles song about peace is called: GIVE PEACE A CHANCE. so lke you should google it.