NME gets political…


Bottled at Reading! Tabloid stories! Where do you stand? Plus, we hear from the guy who bottled Panic! At The Disco’s Brendon Urie.

Where do we stand? We stand on the side that acknowledges these bands are not actually emo. How did MCR and P!ATD even get classified as emo? It’s a terrible misnomer we’ve gone along with, but let’s put a stop to that.

Not to get all Brandon Flowers, but it’s time for a debate! Have these 21st century MTVu eyeliner rockers anything in common with the DC hardcore scene twenty years ago? What was the last great emo album? What’s the greatest emo album of all time? Is America losing the war on the emo? Is there even a war on emo? Why is Gerard dressed for battle?

Comments (133)
  1. Sarah  |   Posted on Nov 23rd, 2006

    both of them rock. call them what you will. i am emo. i am a little lighter than goth and have not the motivation to be angry, just to be depressed. the reason this war is happening is that some dumba** decided that that would make a great cover to a magazine. Nobody should win. Give peace and receive peace. Same with love. and i KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BACKED UP BY MUSICAL EXPERTS. The most probable reason that everyone hates emos is that, during the hardcore-punk/rock era, few bands would come out with emotionally stirring and slightly depressing. this angered them, hence begining the dislike on emo, and since emo has ‘come out of the underground’ the hate has carried over. Another theory is that emos are the easiest to pick on, because emos(or most i know, and myself) are far too shy to fight back or even acknowledge the teaser’s weaknesses.

    Those are my thoughts.

  2. Sarah  |   Posted on Nov 23rd, 2006

    both of them rock. call them what you will. i am emo. i am a little lighter than goth and have not the motivation to be angry, just to be depressed. the reason this war is happening is that some dumba** decided that that would make a great cover to a magazine. Nobody should win. Give peace and receive peace. Same with love. and i KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BACKED UP BY MUSICAL EXPERTS. The most probable reason that everyone hates emos is that, during the hardcore-punk/rock era, few bands would come out with emotionally stirring and slightly depressing. this angered them, hence begining the dislike on emo, and since emo has ‘come out of the underground’ the hate has carried over. Another theory is that emos are the easiest to pick on, because emos(or most i know, and myself) are far too shy to fight back or even acknowledge the teaser’s weaknesses.

    Those are my thoughts.

  3. Kitty  |   Posted on Dec 4th, 2006

    I agree personally with Sarah. -nods- and then you have the fact that everyone is getting upset with being called emo. ooooo… and to my aknowledge to somewhere to how this may have started, I was lloking through the enternet landed on a website, (cant really find it now) that says in bold friggin letters PANIC! DECALRES MCR “EMO BULLSHIT”
    W.T.F is up with that. PANIC! needs slapped. sry had to say that too.

  4. Kitty  |   Posted on Dec 4th, 2006

    I agree personally with Sarah. -nods- and then you have the fact that everyone is getting upset with being called emo. ooooo… and to my aknowledge to somewhere to how this may have started, I was lloking through the enternet landed on a website, (cant really find it now) that says in bold friggin letters PANIC! DECALRES MCR “EMO BULLSHIT”
    W.T.F is up with that. PANIC! needs slapped. sry had to say that too.

  5. ianb  |   Posted on Dec 15th, 2006

    shit, i always figured emocore was just a joke tag slapped onto rites of spring & a few other dischorders cuz they talked in four syllable words & earned a bit of ballbreaking for their fluffy lyrics… everything had to be something-core back then… it got fucking stupid… ‘emocore’ was the dumbest of the lot – i always thought it was deliberate, a piss-take… can’t believe everyone’s taking it so seriously now! fuck, man!

  6. Ghostbuster_Famous  |   Posted on Jan 15th, 2007

    I am emo, and i think the whole ‘war’ is pathetic
    just because emo’s look different and listen to different music to ‘normal’ people doesnt mean we should be targeted cause of it!
    My Chemical Romance have said that they are better than just one ‘tag’ and aren’t emo
    Panic and the disco are against emo (but i still love them) and before u critisise other good bands or good emo’s u need to get ur facts straight!
    If the war is to carry on we will prove to u how very wrong u were to take us on in the first place!! haha
    we do not like the war and would like it to stop, this started because we are different and we will continue to be different so u will never win! im sorry, it is fact!
    In th4e great words of my chemical romance “SO LONG AND GOODNIGHT!!!”

  7. zoofyjr  |   Posted on Jan 19th, 2007

    emo hasnt got anything to do with cutting your wrists or being depressed its about being different and doing your own thing if every1 was the same it wud just be boring!just because emo is different it gets criticised and has been branded a “dangerous teenage cult”.why arent we not against people who like dance music or hip hop….because they look and “dress” normally??
    give it up………if we have a war on emo it just proves how people react to others being unique!!!

  8. Chris  |   Posted on Jan 29th, 2007

    Why is everyone looking for a fight? Music is like art, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone likes different things because…guess what? We are all different.

    And for those people who call themselves emo, you need to remember its just a label, you should not put yourself in a box. Seriously, Emo means nothing at the end of the day, seems as no one can find a proper description that we can all agree on.

    I look at emo as a dress sense.

    And ya know what? All you anti-emos are just as bad. How can you look at someone and hate them because they more sensitive than you.

    At the end of the day, we all love rock, we should stick together. We should hate really bad music, like hip hop. (truly shallow tunes)

  9. i dont rekon der emo. just cos dey wear eyeliner and blak dusnt make em emo. if u actually knew about dem youd find out dey DONT slit der rists or wanna die or anything. suck on that

  10. Burgess Meredeth  |   Posted on Mar 14th, 2007

    Scatman Crothers was emo! Until he got the axe by Nicholson. Nicholson is pretty emo too! Ever watch “About Schmidt: The Emo Years”? Fucking hello?

  11. MCR pwns. Panic sucks. No one cares. blahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. Leah  |   Posted on Jul 7th, 2007

    This Has Gone To Far. Yeah. I Am Emo But Whats The Big Deal? Yeah, I Like My Chemical Romance.And Panic At The Disco And Hawthorne Heights But A Message To The ‘Haters’ How Does It Affect Your Life If Emo’s Like Diffrent Music And If MCR Are Emo Or Not? It Doesnt. Im Not Asking Use To Like Emo Music. But Leave The People Who Do Alone. And As A Matter Of Fact Emo Is A Genre Of Music. It Only Comes Along With A Fasion(This Fasion Is NOT Slitting Ur Wrists) But Still People Say Emos Cut There Wrists. You Would Think Coz Im Emo I Would No right? Rant Overr.. Leah x

  13. Why do people make such a big deal about emo? It’s just another culture. Everyone is entitle to be what they want to be, their own taste in music, clothes etc. Teens are discovering themselves, let them be
    I’m a big fan of my chem, but i’m not emo, i like some of the emo fashion. I have no problem with emo. I have emo friends. They aren’t moody or depressive. They don’t cut like the stereotype says. (If you do, i’d advise seeking help. It’ll make all the difference :)
    The press have made the emo culture out to be some whacky out there death cult, when in fact it’s an identity like “chav” or “Greebo is.
    It’s no danger and parents shouldn’t worry that much over it unless their child has a depressive illness. Emo music plays a big part of today’s teenage rock scene.
    My chemical romance have had there ups and downs. Gerard way having had drink and drug problems, this just means he is a real person, not phoney and it goes to show. No matter what you’ve done in your past, you can still make a positive difference.
    We are supposed to live in an equal rights society. But people still discriminate against eachother. So much for equality in the masses

  14. hans  |   Posted on Aug 5th, 2007

    i’m from germany, so i might have a slightly different perspective on this due to different experiences, but over here it went a little something like this: when the mid-to-late-90s emo bands started cropping up, it was a thing that took place within a tight-knit community. a community that, among other things, embraced values such as DIY. so a large part of the “emo experience” was connected to the feeling that you, as a fan, really broke some ground and got active instead of consuming passively – setting up shows for bands such as braid or promise ring, getting to know them, writing about them in self-published zines, forming bands yourself etc. that’s what made this time special for those involved. oh, and the music wasn’t bad, either (ok, maybe sometimes)..

    why do i write all of this: because in my experience, those that slag off emo most passionately were and are usually people who only watched this scene from the outside or, in most cases, missed its heyday alltogether. i often thought i could detect a healthy dose of johnny-come-lately-ish frustration in some of these sneers.. especially from indie people who simply could not fathom that they had missed out on the phenomenon.

    i’m not saying that “the scene” didn’t have any annoying aspects such as elitism, ideological bullshit being passed forth and so on. trust me, i ‘m more than aware of that cause i more than once suffered it (yeah.. emo kids like to suffer…).

    anyways, that’s the only reason that (at least to my mind) could explain why even today, people in this thread react so venomously when talking about the bands of this time. i understand ranting about mcr and those disco dudes, because their whole thing, from overblown records to bombastic videos to silly costumes, is just so over the top. i’m not saying it’s a bad thing, it just invites controversy. however: those 90s bands? man, a bunch of kids in t-shirts and jeans playing melodic guitar music with varying degrees of success. what’s so bad about that??

  15. whitey  |   Posted on Sep 21st, 2007

    The bands today have nothing in common with those of the late 90′s. Something real was going on then. Something between the musicians and the fans. The bands of today are straight pop. That is why I call them “POP PUNK PUSSIES”.

  16. MATT  |   Posted on Oct 9th, 2007

    Fugazi aren’t emo
    they were on the bloody NME around the 90′s
    and toured in the UK around 1989, 1992 and 1999

  17. matt  |   Posted on Oct 20th, 2007

    (NOT EMO)
    Fugazi,
    Drive like jehu,
    Jawbox,
    Husker Du,
    Mission Of Burma,
    Jawbreaker,

  18. fuckEMO  |   Posted on Oct 25th, 2007

    mcr is emo! but panic isn’t!!!!P!ATD is anything but emo!

  19. lipton  |   Posted on Nov 11th, 2007

    paaaaaaaaaaaaaaanic!!!!!!!!!! rocks!!!!
    mcr rocks!
    but i gotta go with ryan and Bden

  20. okay??
    dude emo’s not so bad.
    it’s pretty cool… but learning what cutting
    has done to me… uhhh well it didn’t do much..
    well who cares if they’re emo! That’s so lame!
    besides emo is dying! Scene is like the next big
    thing… which is like emo, but…. um… yeah
    i think both are emo…
    welll…. i have to go with… mcr…
    totally dude

  21. ASHES  |   Posted on Dec 15th, 2007

    BOTH OF THE BANDS ROCK HARD. IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY ARE “EMO” OR NOT. THER ARENT ANY BANDS WHO ARE REALLY EMO THESE DAYS, THEY ARE JUST POP PUNK. THAT DOESENT MEAN THEY SUCK THOUGH.

  22. jACELYNN  |   Posted on Dec 15th, 2007

    umm..yea. do u guys even no what u r talking about? cuz last i checked..these bands are not emo. if you listened to their interveiws, lyrics, or even look at the way they dress, u would no that. They just have their own unique style. So quit jumpin all over them like a pack of wolves

  23. vivivivivivi  |   Posted on Dec 21st, 2007

    who gives a shit if they emo or not BUT MCR IS MOT EMO!!!!!! and thats true if you need more proof that mcr is not emo go to you tube and tybe in you tube {why mcr isnt emo}

  24. mcrpunk  |   Posted on Dec 22nd, 2007

    we should just get over the whole emo shit and listen to the bands we FUCKIN like. even if its emo/punk/goth/rock and even hip hop

  25. Everybody listen.

    My Chemical Romance has done so much, for everyone!

    Who cares if you classify them as emo or not.

    They are a band, just trying to make music for the people that they love.

    Let them live their lives.

    Because of them, so many kids are still alive today.

    They are amazing!

    I am not going to stand down.

    My Chemical Romance has fought for us, so many times.

    & We fight for them.

    We are an army!

    & you can’t break us down!

    That band, has done so much for me, so so much.

    I thank them for everything, so do millions of other people.

    I say, lets unite this army!

    So speak your shit about My Chemical Romance, because they have half the world to back them up.

    We will NEVER stand down, so talk all you want, because we are a strong army!

    The more the media say My Chemical Romance is bad…

    The more we prove them wrong.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28cfObtxHTw

    Fight the war!

  26. Dorien  |   Posted on Nov 7th, 2008

    No, i don’t think there emo, but the state of mind sounds like it… i think people are just judging them by the clothes that they where. But there really n e thing wrong wih that if they are. Lets fight n e way because the emo music scene is better just as good as hardcore, punk, and metal…

  27. jewiwish  |   Posted on Nov 17th, 2008

    LOL MAINSTREAM

  28. captain Lloyd  |   Posted on Mar 11th, 2009

    I have to say…. the best album ever made was Analphabetapolothology by Cap’n Jazz or Science 1994 discography from Indian Summer. Anyone agree?

  29. Kenzie Jane  |   Posted on Sep 26th, 2009

    Okay.
    So we all know how “emo” back in the day started…
    it branched off of bands like Minor Threat (who are not emo, they’re punk)

    there was another wave in the 90′s in the midwest (i’ve seen midwestmo a lot)
    bands like Braid, Mineral, TPR, American Football…

    TODAY- at least where i live, a lot of bands are bringing back Owls’ and Joan of Arc’s sounds… try: Algernon Cadwallader, Snowing, Street Smart Cyclist, Empire! Empire! (I was a lonely estate)…

    And NO MCR and PANIC are not emo. They just suck. It’s that simple.
    They were good when i was twelve, but i have a brain now.

    As for the best emo album… I couldn’t pick just one,
    Knapsack- This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now
    The Get Up Kids- Something To Write Home About
    American Football
    Braid- Frame and Canvas

  30. Kenzie Jane  |   Posted on Sep 26th, 2009

    Oops i meant Cap’n Jazz, not really Joan of Arc.

  31. Just ignore the trends  |   Posted on Oct 21st, 2009

    Listen to whatever.
    Not everyone is exposed to enough music like us who listen to music like Boy’s Life, Gravel, Moss Icon, Portrait, Still Life, and caP’n Jazz.

    It’s not like you can find that music anywhere… Calm down people.

  32. Indian Summer – 1st 7″
    Policy of 3-1st 7″
    Anasarca – Complete Discography ’94-’97

    even it is 2nd generation, its real emo.
    anyone agree?

  33. He looks like he is going to war, because he is in his black parade costume. Anyway what is wrong is they are emo or goth that is their choice. No one can change that. If the music is good which it muchly is then don’t complane and just let them do what they want, to create good music!

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