Coldplay Backlash In Effect, Album Drops Tomorrow
Jon Pareles: "Coldplay is the most insufferable band of the decade."
Previously...
Chuck Klosterman: "Coldplay is absolutely the shittiest fucking band I've ever heard in my entire fucking life."
If you read Pareles' piece online, you missed this irony:
Anyway, "When you try your best but you don't succeeeeeeed" this is what happens:
Crazy Frog: "Ba ding ding ding ding di di ding ding bah bahbedayyyyyyyyyyy."
Posted at 8:32 AM
Tags: Coldplay | Jon Pareles
i think the bloodhound gang are worse
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Really? I think middle brow, mediocre stuff is more dangerous than right out bad. For example, some Ron Howard schlock-fest like "A Beautiful Mind" is much worse than say "Pootietang." People might think that mediocre crap is actually good; people just laugh at/with the Bloodhound Gang.
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Did you catch Coldplay playing live on MTV Sunday night? Did you notice that all the synths & additional keyboard parts were coming from no one on stage. Other than that they sounded good. If you like Coldplay, check out a new band from Manchester called Long-View. They have a great new album out and will be heading out on a US tour next week with Embrace, another great new band.
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is that from sundays times?
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Indeed, Janine - well put.
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I can't believe the Crazy Frog song is #1 on the singles chart this week. It's a dang cell phone ringer for god's sake !!! What's wrong with the country of England ?
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That Times writer is an ass. He wrote that Coldplay has influence countless imitation bands, among them Travis.
They even had a picture of the lead singer from Travis to indicate that he was someone who bases his music on Coldplay.
His credibility sort of went out the window with that one.
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Yeah dude Napoleon Dynamite is totally a better movie than a factual based, well made movie like a Beautiful Mind. Mainstream movies suck because they are mainstream! All the cool stuff is independent duh! Also, I hate it when people make music that they think is funny! How dare the Bloodhound Gang! Who do they think they are? They are probably the worst band ever.
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Thank you, Dan. I was just about to say the same thing. I don't like either band, but I am at least AWARE that Travis has been around a long time. Hell, they were called the new TrashCan Sinatras for a while. How long ago was THAT?
Yeah...zero credibility. Plus, he never even made his case...which shouldn't be hard to do.
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dan, i agree with you on the travis thing. i though the man who came out before parachutes, so i looked it up and TMW came out in april 2000, while parachutes came out in november of that year.
i agree coldplay has gone out the window, but i never had a problem with chris martin the young nobody singing vaguely depressing stuff. however, it's a little harder to swallow from chris martin the millionaire wife, er husband, of gwyneth paltrow.
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I thought you weren't going to say an album "drops?" Also, hasn't Travis been around longer than Coldplay, and got popular first? "The Man Who" came out in 99, "Parachutes" was 2000. They're not as big as Coldplay, but still. And furthermore, Pootie Tang is awesome.
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oh, jinx other frank. must have been writing while you were.
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If you are going to go after mediocre music, and make the case, why not just go after the source of all of those shitty bands? U2 has been making hack records with overwrought half-thought out emotional content, that is so self-satisfied one could choke on Bono's love. At least Coldplay (or Travis, Keane, etc. for that matter,) hasn't had a film made about themselves yet.
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Fake Janine: See, I read books. "A Beautiful Mind" the movie is anything but fact based (I read the book, hon). They glossed over John Nash's homosexuality; his wife's questionable motives; and about a million other details to his life that would have made the movie "factual based" [sic]. Hallmark emotions are easier to express, so I'm not impressed with the whole "well made" thing either. You get yourself the appropriate swell of strings, close-up on the star, a single tear and voila, Oscar. That's the problem, when a work provides all the signifiers of quality without actually challenging the audience in any way, it let's them slip into a kind of complacency. On top of that, I find that kind of art to be manipulative.
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travis did have a record before "the man who". keep that in mind, too.
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Gummer, am I having a flashback or did you cover this Coldplay cr#p previously???? >(Chris Martin has just grown as person through his marrage and the birth of his child and his music has matured much faster than everyone elses taste) someday maybe when the fog lifts and our heads clear we will all realize what great work this new album is and or was. I THINK NOT!!!!! After you get back from Bonnero with your Von Dutch tractor hat and realize that its all about peace love and jam bands you will realize the new Coldplay cd will make a great coaster and after staring for hours at the cd jacket you will receive sublimial messages from Chris himself and everything will be FINE!!!
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this "gummer" shit has got to go
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The real janine called the fake janine "hon", and then proceeded to point out her gramatical mistakes. That cracked me up.
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I am the biggest coldplay fan maybe ever... it saddens me to say that this nytimes guy...although not factually correct...is kind of right
they should have gotten Nigel Godrich cause he would have forced them to record livw on reel to reel...the album is way too bright (musically, this means too much treble) because they never put it to tape...if you don't think this matters listen to past albums...they are much warmer
"Swallowed in the Sea" has a beautiful beginning but then as soon as it kicks in its totally avril lavigne the rest of the way
Chris Martin really dropped the ball
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I'm planning a trip to Baltimore, hon! (They say hon all the time there...)
I'm not usually a grammar nazi (I can't be; my typing sucks and I believe that the comments section is no place for spell check) but I will not have my intelligence/taste called into question by a Ron Howard fan who doesn't know the difference between an adjective and an adverb. Field of Dreams *this* mutha trucka!
Olive branch: I really like Arrested Development, a Ron Howard production.
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You know I have no idea whats up with my country and its music buying. Its kids who are buying that damn Crazy Frog thing, its been advertised on the TV like 4000 times a day, they've spent millions on the ad slots and kids said mummy, buy me that frog record thats on the telly. Either that or Satan himself has spent a shitload on crap music.
This weeks charts have the frog at number one followed by Akon (Lonely, more drivel) Gorillaz (Feel Good Inc) and Foo Fighters (new entry Best of You)I'm glad on my radio show I get to play good music and not a frog in sight! BTW Longview are pretty damn good
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Coldplay had a shitload of potential, and it just seems like they're wasting it away on radio shlock, political activism, and moronic baby names. If "Speed of Sound" actually advanced their music any further as a radio single, and didn't sound like "Clocks" with guitars, I doubt we'd see this kind of backlash.
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Ragging on art (film, tv, music) is the easiest thing to do. I love Coldplay. If you don't, go fuck yourself.
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Talking shit about art (film, tv, music) is the easiest thing to do. I love Coldplay. If you don't, go fuck yourself.
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i disagree--i think the nyt was completely lame on this one--i was surprised they ran that article. it was completely ridiculous. i think it makes pareles the decade’s most insufferable critic. i don’t really adore coldplay, but the article was nothing more than an insult, and a waste of space--especially since he acknowledges coldplay's popularity and skill. it begs the question a critic should never want begged, which is--who gives a shit what this guy thinks?
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oops--i don't disagree with defamer--we posted at the same instant. i disagree with slagging coldplay and thought the pareles article was beyond tacky.
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The Travis comparison does reflect poorly on the writer. Also to be fair, Embrace has been around longer than Coldplay too. When they first came out they were consistently compared in the British press to Oasis.
I don't necessarily have a dog in this race, but it helps to be accurate when you're slagging off on a band for "spawning" imitators.
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Hey Earwig, FYI Embrace's first album came out in 1998, only a year after Travis' first record. Some might say Embrace set the standard for this current crop of emotive crooning Brit-poppers. This might sound like a knock, but Embrace's first album was a great in a sub-Oasis/Verve sort of way.
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"Coldplay is absolutely the shittiest fucking band I've ever heard in my entire fucking life."
I think Chuck would be a much better writer if he could describe how he really feels about something. I still can't tell if he likes Coldplay or not.
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Klosterman, with considerable depth, already expressed in succinct detail what I was aiming for in my Coldplay rant at Scenestars. Jeez, why had I not read this before? Thanks, Gummer.
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"Ragging on art (film, tv, music) is the easiest thing to do. I love Coldplay. If you don't, go fuck yourself."
Um, why is thinking critically about art lame? It reminds me of the 12 y.o. Britney fans that refer to anyone that doesn't like her music as jealous and a hater. I am not above pointing out the lack of critical analysis offered by their defenders as further proof of what I was saying above.
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Sorry, I guess it got cut off, actual ending of post:
It's too bad he had to go and call them the 'shittiest fucking band I've ever heard in my entire fucking life', because the stuff he said about EMI was right on the money.
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"Fake Janine: See, I read books."
case closed
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crazybitch: are you saying middlebrow entertainment's for the illiterate?
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Is it true the new Coldplay CD will have a CopyGuard scheme that prevents playing in some laptops as well as home computers & will prevent multiple burns as well?
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Sincere question for all the Coldplay haters. If they are the epitome of 'suck' then who doesn't suck? What do you listen too?
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man, 12 year olds get such a bad name...
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ej--yeah, but pareles' comments about emi are not personal insights--it's just simple financial information, dressed up as a critic's observation. it's like some nyt film critic saying some summer movie will affect a studio's bottom line. yes, duh, both are true. that's what's so disingenuous about the pareles article--does he think no one understands he's a cog in the same machine that drives emi?
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I quite enjoy some Coldplay songs and their live DVD is a nice watch.
That being said, the lead singer has really started to annoy the fuck out of me. The U2 analogy is brilliant. I have never liked U2 and always found Bono to be a self-righteous wanker; Chris Martin seems to be quickly moving in that direction.
I think A Rush of Blood to the Head is a pretty good album. I also think the problem with this new album (what I have heard of it) is that it sounds like the same ol' stuff. There was nothing new, nothing memorable, it all just kinda sounded like the same old Coldplay. Bored me a bit.
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I don't think Coldplay sucks. I love their first two albums with all my heart. I have listened to this new album about 5 times all the way through and I can honestly say I am heartbroken because I do not love it. They seem to have lost whatever edge and last bit of originality they used to have and it saddens me. The album sounds like generic Coldplay. Sooooo dull :(
About Travis and Embrace (2 of my fave bands)...Travis' debut (Good Feeling) was in Oct 97 and Embrace's (The Good Will Out) was Jul 98. Both albums are worth checking out.
A band who has been mercilessly compared to Coldplay would be Doves, whose brilliant Lost Souls came out Apr 00, but was soon eclipsed by Coldplay's Parachutes that July.
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Look y'all: Coldplay is a useful concept because it so beautifully illustrates the triumph of mediocrity. Defangled, tame, non-threatening pop served with a "social agenda" sauce: how can these guys fail to be huge? They are perfectfor lazy people who can't be bothered to actively look for depth, truth, substance or beauty. I was trying to think of a simile for Coldplay...(by the way—how come nobody's raggin' on their dumbass name for a chance?) They are like a lukewarm donut...sorta comforting even though it is also vaguely queasy and ultimately bad for you.
PS: I surely do not "hate" Coldplay. That would require a strong feeling. I couldn't rage at these dudes if they paid me. They're too lame for that.
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They aren't the epitome of suck; that's, like, Linkin Park or something. They're just frustratingly tasteful and middle of the road.
I'm going to disappoint you with what I like. Over the weekend, I made myself a CD with the following: Electric 6, Cee-Lo, Diamanda Galas, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Tom Waits, Atari Teenage Riot, M.I.A., Ghostface Killah, Nina Simone, Thomas Dolby, Radiohead, The Talking Heads, Tears for Fears, Old Jane's Addiction, Fiery Furnaces, Prince, N.W.A., Public Enemy, The White Stipes, Bauhaus, and My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult, Pixies and Bowie. So there, I've outed myself: I'm not huge on indie rock. But then, neither is anyone that listens to Coldplay.
In my opinion, there are two bands in the running for best band in the world right now: Radiohead and The White Stripes.
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I saw Cinderella Man this weekend and it was one of the best movies i have seen in a long while.
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Perhaps this is slightly less important than the Coldplay vs SuckingEverywhere discussion, but I think it needs to be mentioned.
I've been living under a rock for several weeks, and just watched the Crazy Frog "video" for the first time. Has anyone else noticed that the Crazy Frog has a totally visible penis and, even, perhaps a tiny erection during the whole video? How is that OK?
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What I don't understand about this "Crazy Frog" is - why are frogs grey in England? Is *everything* grey there?
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I liked Clocks. Period. Nothing else by them. Not "Yellow", nothing. Not the new tune on the airwaves which sounds like clocks only much more depressing.
The media has crowned Coldplay as the new Supergroup. It has all the makings of it, loudmouthed singer spouting off politically and hypocritically. Lead singer marrying an American princess/blueblood movie actress, again she is herself controversial as most people think she is "talentless".
Chris Martin saying that he hates capitalism, yet he and his wife continually shop for capitalist goods daily.
You know, if Chris STFU and just played music, and his wife, also if she STFU and just acted (oops, misnomer, she CAN'T act) then we wouldn't have this problem.
But CM must think the new album/cd sucks ass because why else would he be saying stupid, hypocritical and controversial things. He's doing it because controversy creates paper on you. Paper on you creates buzz and sales.
Simple formula.
Don't fall for it.
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Electric 6, Cee-Lo, Diamanda Galas, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, Tom Waits, Atari Teenage Riot, M.I.A., Ghostface Killah, Nina Simone, Thomas Dolby, Radiohead, The Talking Heads, Tears for Fears, Old Jane's Addiction, Fiery Furnaces, Prince, N.W.A., Public Enemy, The White Stipes, Bauhaus, and My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult, Pixies and Bowie. So there, I've outed myself: I'm not huge on indie rock. But then, neither is anyone that listens to Coldplay.
In my opinion, there are two bands in the running for best band in the world right now: Radiohead and The White Stripes.
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Janine just posted her livejournal favorites! also she totally likes: "poems, maya angelou, and nature! but hates Faker heads!"
Oh and you had best make sure it's old Janes Addiction! They lost all their cred recently
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Is it me, or does it seem everyone outside of England doesn't get the whole Crazy Frog appeal?
I mean really, a ringtone made into a song? Then again I've heard my share of crap. Anyone remember Effel 65's "Blue" and the Hamster Dance?
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Sh*t, the weekend box office musta ben real bad if Ron Howard is hyping his own movie on blogs...
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Hey, um real Janine?
Do you consider Gone with the Wind, It's a Wonderful Life, Casablanca, and the Wizard of Oz to be manipulative mediocre movies too? Or do you allow the passing of time to make them acceptable? (I'm not including Beautiful Mind in the same rank as these movies, but those are "feel good movies") Movies are movies, they are meant to entertain people- while it's great to run into an intelligent, thought provoking movie- some people want to watch movies that they can enjoy and forget their problems. Grow up.
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I'm a 27 y.o. woman avoiding writing a memo. I am sitting in a cube (when will it be 6?) If I were a 14 y.o. with a Live Journal, I wouldn't be here. I'd be behind the tennis courts smoking, nor would I have a Live Journal. Further, if I were a 14 y.o., I'd probably like Coldplay and Conor Oberst and congratulate myself for my erudition. FFJ, did you scratch your copy of Garden State? The Shins are so talented! (Only 30 minutes of flame wars left!)
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I am asking for a truce because I can side with you on this waiting for six o clock deal while sitting in a cube (the fake j and real j have one thing in common!) Though for the record I haven't seen Garden State. We actually probably watch the same kind of movies. But I don't want to steer into an argument. Peace out and enjoy your last 15 minutes.
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Am I listening to the same album as the rest of you? This album is a large step ahead for Coldplay, which whether all you indie snobs are one of the biggest (and in turn, one of the most important) in the world. Maybe not better than but yes, bigger than Radiohead and therefore more important than Radiohead.
I listen to just as much indie music as the rest of you guys (and gals) yet I dont feel the need to make stupid statements deriding Coldplay as the worst band in the world. If you honestly, truly believe that Coldplay is the worst band, consider yourself lucky that you haven't been subjected to the true shitty music of the world.
If one wants to hear a shitty, completely unnecessary and irrelevant band, look no further than the Fiery Furnaces, who, with their gleefully bizarre take on pop music exist merely to be weird. Blueberry Boat was the biggest waste of 80 minutes of last year and easily one of the most overhyped releases of 2004. Before all you "cool" kids climb all over me, attacking me for liking a band that your bible, Pitchfork, sucks off everyday, its time to realize that being weird for the sake of being weird doesn't result in good music.
You guys can hate on Coldplay all you want but this album will be receive more press, sell more copies, sell more tour tickets than most of your overhyped shit indie bands that have been deemed hip and cool will in their lifetime.
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I really like Coldplay. Not love, but like. They seem totally harmless, and the level of hate they garner really surprises me.
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And who is this joker calling Gone with the Wind a feel good movie? Have you seen Gone with the Wind? What was feel good about it? The rape scene at the end? The daughter dying in the horse accident? Maybe I missed the feel good messages.
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The saddest part of Gone with the Wind was your mom
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Wow, thats a zinger. Nice comment pal. Next time, actually watch the movie and then come talk to me.
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Kevin- He'll never be Thom Yorke, you know... ever!
"...this album will be receive more press, sell more copies, sell more tour tickets..." So did Korn.
(It's interesting you'd mention The Blueberry Boat. I just heard it for the first time during Memorial Day. If it was the first thing I'd heard of them, I'd hate them too. It's really some kind of bad.)
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I've seen the movie and trust me your mom is the saddest part.
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Sorry to post again so quickly but I wanted to ask Kev if he could cry and moan for a few more paragraphs about Coldplay and then contradict himself by picking on another harmless band. Please more Kevin Please!
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If you dont like them then dont buy their record it is as simple as. If you dont like what he says then dont listen. If you dont like his wife then stay at least 10 miles away at all times.
IMHO this is their worst album.
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if popularity(P) equals bands worth (W)
then dave matthews band (dmb) is better than coldplay (C)
DMB is more popular than C
therefore, DMB is a better band
it holds up to modus ponens, but is it a sound argument?
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Hey Rincewind
I think you're on to something. you should send your post to like every critic of any art work ever. man that's a lot of emails but we gotta get this thing going!
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Yeah but lets be honest, Coldplay is a hell of alot more relevant and talented than Korn. I dont think Chris Martin is striving to be Thom Yorke. Yorke is a reclusive, neurotic (albeit brilliant)guy. Martin is out trying to enact positive change in the world something, which for some reason is being treated with harsh criticism by the readers of this site. He is using his celebrity to help others.
I suppose that the indie crowd would rather see their stars bitching and moaning about their romantic misfortunes.
Doug, get a better response than this mom bullshit. You only make yourself look more ignorant/foolish. You'd fit in great with my 6 year old cousin, he says it all the time.
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I used the Furnaces due to their mentioning earlier in the post.
I never stated that popularity made for a better band. I said it made for a more important band. DMB has no international following whatsoever. How often are they touring Europe? Look at the profits at the end of 2005. I can practically guarantee that Coldplay will sell more records and more tour tickets worldwide than DMB will. I dont see how you can argue that DMB is more popular.
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Me and your cousin got to talking and we both agreed that your mom sucks. I'm Doug and I'm outta heeerrreeee.
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That's an awful lot of oregano, Doug.
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"Coldplay, which whether all you indie snobs are one of the biggest (and in turn, one of the most important) in the world. Maybe not better than but yes, bigger than Radiohead and therefore more important than Radiohead."
May I second the genius of this formula? I mean, just think of all the records it sets straight:
Foghat = at least 20 times more influential than that podunk little band, The Velvet Underground.
The Pixies may have turned a few heads during the 80s in some small, select, overtly elitist circles, but hell, man, the story of the decade? Foreigner, my friend.
Pavement? What did you spend the 90s doing, my friend? Nowhere near as important as Candlebox.
(Actually, a friend pointed out to me that Coldplay is to Radiohead sorta what Nirvana was to the Pixies, but the difference is that even after a 15-year media blitz, I still am occasionally in the mood for some In Utero.)
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Yes I would agree that Candlebox is the most important band from the 1990's. But I think the real question is whether Candlebox were the most important musicians of the 20th century. I think they'd face stiff competition from the Beatles, Igor Stravinsky, and Duke Ellington, however, I think we all know they'd come out on top.
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Jefferson, when I saw Radiohead at Coachella in 2004, the Pixies reunited and opened for them. When Thom Yorke came on stage he praised the Pixies, going as far as to say that he would never have made it if it weren't for their influence. So if the Pixies turned only a few heads, they turned the right ones.
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U2 are brilliant, by the way. Coldplay make great middle-of-the-road music, and will never be the band U2 was and is.
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Irish my man, he was joking around. But awesome to stand up for your boys (and girl!)
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I agree that just because a band is popular does not make them more influencial. The Smiths sold hardly any records here in the states and today they are regarded by many as one of the, if not the most, influencial bands of all time.
I also agree that Coldplay is a brilliant band and they kind of blew it on this record. Knowing Chris Martin and how critical he is of his own work, I think that we should be expecting something much different the next time around. For example "Talk" was the last song that was re-recorded for the new album and it sounds much different than anything Coldplay has ever done before.
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Holy shit, I shouldve read that more thoroughly. I feel like a tool.
"but hell, man, the story of the decade? Foreigner, my friend."
That's good shit. I just saw Pixies mentioned distastefully and shat my pants.
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That's it, buddies: now you did it!
You have driven me away.
The revelations brought on by this thread have left me shocked and awed. I thought this was a little niche elitist wank pad for music nerds with media jobs and/or starf*ckers. And I thought suburban Sizzler-dining a**holes who like Foghat and call VU "podunk" spend their time on the Dave Matthews Band web site & not here.
Hey, dude who writes that "Candlebox was the most influential band of the '90s": were they as influential as Pearl Jam, or more? Just about as influential as Incubus? Cuz both these bands sold a gazillion amount of records and as far as I can tell, nobody's remembering what the fuck they even sounded like!
/Number One Strokes fan. (This whole Coldplay bakc & forth makes me sooooo wannna miss the STrokes. With all their poses & posteuring at least there were a TON of things to debate about them...they had so much more dimenssion to them than these spiceless COldplayers.
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and once again, the guy who wrote the Candlebox stuff was joking. But I'm sure no one will miss you here
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I hope some of you got a chance to read pfork's review of speed of sound, it made so much sense. While pfork loves to bash coldplay like most these days. The reviewer (forget which one) came to the conclusion at the end, who cares if its "simple" or not awe-inspiring, the fact of the matter was that it sounded good to his well trained ears, and that was that. Close the book on coldplay already!
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oh wow! now the 14 yr olds are being hated on!
raise your hand if you're getting a little tired of those who look down upon those who have livejournals.
Janine-pull your head out of your ass. really.
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Hey Kevin, Thom Yorke isn't a recluse, he’s actually out there working at a grass roots level for all kinds of worthy causes, while Martin writes crap on his hand and makes silly sweeping statements about capitalism. Yorke gives interviews all the time, hardly the modus operandi of a recluse. And Martin could never be Yorke, he wants to be loved too much.
As far as the music goes, I kept hearing that new song on the radio and on TV and wondering why people were playing a song off the last album. Martin kept blathering on about how they were going to have to do something really different for this record. Well, the artwork is different…
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Aside from Chris Martin's annoying political platform about making trade fair and hypocritical anti-capitalist viewpoint, Coldplay aren't that bad, but that doesn't make them equally comaprable to Radiohead just because of 17 million? cd sales. Coldplay say they don't care about album sales but why are there so many commercials promoting their tv specials on MTV (Live Leak), VH1 (Storyteller) and don't forget the iTunes promo. Every interview is about comparing them to Radiohead and calling them the next U2 (actually Chris Martin said his goal was to be as big as the Beatles). So, who cares if they sell more albums, in this case, it's quantity over quality. So, with all the press and hype as the next supergroup, who caters to a much wider audience which includes soccor moms, EXPECT X&Y to dwarf GBMS by the white stripes on the chart this week.
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Who else laughed when they read "Coldplay is admired by everyone - everyone except me" in the Jon Pareles article?
He is Jon Pareles, NYT music critic, alone in a world of Coldplay admirers! Only he can see them for what they truly are...a band HE DOESN'T ADMIRE!(dun dun dun!)
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This describes exactly what Coldplay's FORMULA is:
"On "X&Y," however, their formula is too obvious to hide: 1. quiet start, 2. swelling chorus, 3. pretty, high singing and 4. some pseudo-poetic line about stars or lights, all to the effect of "it's gonna be all right.
Essentially, Coldplay writes every song for the scene in the movie where the guy rushes across hell and high water to kiss the girl as in the rain."
Source: MSNBC
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This might be old news for most of you but Coldplay were on the Jonathan Ross show here in the UK on Friday night and played Speed of Sound, In My Place and Fix You. And in every song Chris Martin did the Crazy Frog "ring ding ding ding" thing during the instrumental bits. It was quite funny the first time.
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whats to hate is the 'imposing' of points of views...
it all comes down to listeing, and enjoying... thats it,
if you like it amen, if you dont amen too
if i say theyre the coolest band on earth, that is to ME, and no other... same in the contrary
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coldplay doesnt care about album sales but there are ads for the new disc everywhere! wha wha wha~!
what is wrong with you? Coldplay did NOT put those ads out. They had very likely absolutely nothing to do with choosing of the ads, when the ads are played, etc etc.
haha. pitchfork is funny. 4.9. mmm, nothing like lame hipsters trying desperately to hold on to 'coolness' by hating everything and anything released unless its inaccessable hipster shit. coughARCHITECTUREINHELSINKIcough.
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Chris responds to the haters: "Maybe it's something to do with my haircut."
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Actually Coldplay did contribute to those commercials because they went to vh1 and requested a Storyteller's special, and the same goes woth the MTV Live Leak. They APPROACHED MTV, Vh1 and Apple iTunes. So, that is why Coldplay are everywhere promoting which is not a bad thing. I guess for them overexposure is a good thing considering they get to be mentioned after every episode of the Real World/ Road Rules Inferno challenge.
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Pitchfork on X&Y:
"Like Coldplay's two previous albums, only more so, X&Y is bland but never offensive, listenable but not memorable. It may be pointless to hate them, but with this album, they've almost certainly become the easiest band on the planet to be completely indifferent to."
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That crazy frog can sure come up with some catchy beats.
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Saying you don't like something because it is "low-brow" or even "middle-hrow" and implying that what you like is "high-brow" and therefore superior is really fucking pretentious.
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What about "uni-brow"?
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Those are always far superior.
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Am I the only one who doesn't get the Coldplay/Radiohead connection? I love Radiohead and I really liked Coldplay's first album and a few songs off the second. But I don't draw any comparisons between the two. Radiohead are experimental and haunting; Coldplay are energizing and romantic. Apples (pun intended) and Oranges really.
This argument sounds like the same kind of elitist crap that surrounded The Da Vinci Code where arrogant people were upset at the mere idea that the "public" might love a book that they didn't consider "literature" but was not exactly written with crayon. That kind of insecurity is what makes me hate hipsters. Just don't listen to them. Would you listen to DMB?
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It's really cute a little quarrel you are having about Coldplay.
I am in the very unfortunate situation to listen to this new album right now. And it does suck. Dull, dull oh God it is Dull! (montyp) I loved the first two albums, but it is as boring as the last two U2 discs. What has happened to these guys? Oasis is becoming to be unbearable, U2 is a whining-machine, and Coldplay is so mediocre... is there some kinda disease spreading there round the islands? The only band that is all right is Radiohead. They have found their tone, now for the tenth time, or I don't know, everything they do is original. U2 has reached it's peak with Pop which is the most powerful rock I ever heard, but since that...
Well, i dunno if you are interested in my opinion, but i just wanted to write it down at last. I am so bored with the new stuff, that I started listenting to good old Hendrix, Bloodsweatandtears, Pink Floyd, etc... There's nobody denying their quality.
By the way it is interesting how you try to authenticate yar opinions. With influence, records sold, others' opinions... no way! it is really subjective, music-critisicm is a bit mystical (or if we think about money, not mystical at all) i don think you sholud tear each other apart.
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coldplay is lame like a sunday brunch. has any band ever sounded more like another band(radiohead) ok CP fans lets hear all about how they dont and how i should listen to their albums, then how come ever hit on the radio just sounds like radiohead? chris martin wants to be thom yorke so bad i heard he was thinking about making his one eye lazy. oh by the way lets make trade free, and while your at it how about making your cds and concerts free too, lame lame lame.
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Kevin: I kind of love you. Just not as much as I love Coldplay.
As for most of the other commenters: I was going to pick apart all your stupid arguments, but there were just way too many. I'm surprised I can even type right now, given the blinding rage I feel.
One thing I do remember: someone said that people who like Coldplay probably don't listen to indie rock. Fuck you. I like the Arcade Fire and Broken Social Scene and a whole slew of "indie" bands, and you know why? Cause I have fucking good taste in music. I don't care whether an album sells 10 or 10 million copies, if it's gorgeous or inspired or heartbreakingly real I will love it. X & Y is all of those things. And I swear, if some hot new band from Montreal released that album (and Coldplay didn't exist) you'd all be bragging about how you liked it before it was on The OC. So go to hell, and stop reading Pitchfork like it's the bible and you're from Alabama.
Oh, and fuss: you're not the only one. Coldplay is definitely influenced by Radiohead, but also by The Smiths (I actually see more of Morrissey than Thom Yorke) and a lot of other, earlier bands. And I think they do a fantastic job of blending those influences with their own unique, beautiful sound.
I also don't get why people hate Chris Martin so much. He's obviously the nicest rock star in the history of rock, he sincerely cares about his music and making it the best it can be, and he's damn sexy. All the hate is just a violent expression of jealousy.
Ok, stopping now. Just remember what I said about Pitchfork.
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agreed Sarah, all you coldplay and 'chris martin' bashers are not worth responding to, cos all your arguments are fucked and contradicting. You talk about influence as if its evil, sorry to break it to you but that shits been going on for years, dont think 'radiohead' were'nt fucking bumming when they first heard 'yellow' and wondering why they had'nt done it, maybe they have made something better since, maybe they havent, thats up to interpretaion, but im sick of u 'einsteins ' barking up some shit about influence, were all influenced you tall poppy fuckers, so deal with it, or go naked to work every day for the rest of the year, and then im prepared to call you different, until then just fuck up. listen to the music for what it is, and not what it aint, or who it sounds like, maybe colplay are good cos they learnt off radiohead, U2, shit like that, if we didnt have music that sounded a little like other stuff, then there would be no such thing as genres, bands wouldnt feed and grow off each other, and all u freaks out there would be more disillusioned and confused than you are now (yes hard and a little scary to imagine)
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I was dj'ing at a a clothing store in Austin about a year and a half ago. I played a white label of "God Put A Smile On Your Face" (I think that's the name of the track) not because I liked it but because I thought it went along with the clothing store's target audience. Afterwards, the manager said I did a great job except that I should "NEVER play a Coldplay track in this store EVER again" which I found odd. I didn't really care either way. I had no particular affinity for the group or the song. I actually thought it was a quite decent song. He obvioulsy had a strong distaste for their music.
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Right on Sarah, and of course the A.Martin poster too...I see nothing here but more of the same youth-culture drivel that plagues so many blogs-- conjuring images of some knuckle-dragging troglodyte with ass-tattoos and multiple body piercings muttering, "Mainstream bad. Indie-rock good." And droning,"...but I liked the mainstream band back before they were mainsream which makes me hipper than thou..."blah blah fu#k%@g blah." What is funny, (actually a bit sad) is that this kind of anti-pop attitude hasn't changed since the early days of Alt Rock back in the 80's. And I know. I was there. Thats right. I was once one of YOU...but eventually, the inevitable happend...I grew up. So listen up! Music (and art for that matter) are constantly evolving and subject for interpretation by tomorrow's artists. This is the way it has always been. Even Elvis co-opted Mississipi delta blues legends and coutry folk artists before him. Thats what makes music the great cultural phenomenon that it is. Granted, yes, there IS a lot of schlock out there in the music scene that is over-produced and purposely derivative for the sake of successful marketing...but after following the music scene for over 25 years, please believe me when I tell you that Coldplay--despite their uber-success is not one of them. There music is honest, sincere and simply just GOOD!....but don't fret, the importance, and subtle complexities of things like honesty and sincerity might be alien to you right now (like they were for me back in the 80's)---But over time you will master them on your own terms, and you will have more confidence in forming your OWN opinion(s). The first step forward is when you realize that whether you are someone who blindly listens to whatever is spoon fed to you on mainstream radio OR someone who is devoted only to underground, [insert anit-adjective here] low-brow, experimental garage band fodder-- the same "herd mentality" applies. At this stage, defining your likes and dislikes is more about 'identity' and wanting to belong to one tribe or another. Fortunately for you it won't always be like this. One day you will see yourself for who YOU are. And music for what IT IS. Remember this: Being different just for the sake of being different is a time-tested claptrap of manufactured cool so try not to "fall for it" too hard. In the meantime, listen more and talk less. The truth is in you.
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coldplay rock the house and anyone who says otherwise is fucking retartded and need to be twated.
i agree wiv apple
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oh, and kevin u suck ass bloodhound gang fucking rule and i'll hear no more about that they are so fuckin funny(especially jimmy pop!)
ok bibi
luv zepher-girl
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Stupid internet critic fucks.
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coldplay are talented songwriters and know how to milk a song it for all it's worth, how to tug on people's heartstrings. While I respect them for their chops, their music is far too dramatic for my taste, it's just way way to much for me. To me they are the air supply of the 21st century.
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Colonplay sucks
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