Korn Responds To Fan Concert Death
The reason I haven't mentioned the fan who died in a Family Values mosh pit attack is that I don't read articles that have "Korn" in the headline. However, the band just released a statement about the tragic incident, and I thought you might be interested in reading it:
All the bands on THE FAMILY VALUES TOUR offer their sincerest condolences and prayers to the family of 30-year-old Andy Richardson. Richardson, who attended Sunday’s show at Atlanta’s Hi-Fi Buys Amphitheater, was beaten by two men at the concert and subsequently was taken to a local hospital where he succumbed to his injuries on Tuesday, August 1. The incident occurred during the Deftones set, before tour headliners KORN took the stage. KORN are appalled at the actions of these men and are imploring anyone who witnessed this senseless act or has any information about the attack to please immediately come forward by contacting local authorities.Sure, blame the Deftones.
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jeez ... nice of korn to pass the buck.
if i were in the deftones, i'd be off that mouth-breather of a tour with the quickness.
then again, if i were in the deftones, i'd probably be too depressed to move ...
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Yeah, who cares who was playing at the time of the incident?
Nice way to slickly side step that, "Our music had nothing to do with inciting the murder, but maybe it was the Deftones..."
Shows Korn's true colors, as if they weren't already apparent.
They were co-headlining the, horribly titled in this instance, "Family Values" concert.
Korn are jackasses and that's what they attract.
This was senseless but not totally shocking.
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I hope South Park cooks up a "Korn's Groovy Dead Fan Mystery" episode to 'celebrate' this Blame The Deftones First bullshit.
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I believe the intent in saying the Deftones were playing is to let the people at the concert know WHEN the incident took place, not to pass the buck. The more info the people have, the better chance there is of finding the scumbags who did it.
That said, yes, their music is le terrible.
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Atlanta, no surprise 2 people beat one guy to death there.
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From what I've read, this moron got beaten down because he took his pregnant wife and special-ed kid into the freaking MOSH PIT and then started complaining about people bumping into them. Now of course he doesn't deserve to be beaten or killed for this, but still... what kind of idiot takes a pregnant woman and a retarded child to the mosh pit?
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JT, there's a lot of bullshit floating out there. There was no mosh pit at this show, apparently. Read the Atlanta Journal Constitution story on the incident. This was an ampitheatre gig and this happened on the sloping lawn behind the pavilion seating. Sure, the area's GA, but I've been to plenty of shows and I've never seen a mosh pit all the way up there. Apparently a bunch of drunk assholes were taking turns tumbling down the hill and slamming into other people. That's not the pregnant woman or retarded kid's fault. That's just a bunch of negligently murdering assholes.
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Kluv - I believe Korn's intent is to not get sued for this guys death...therefore passing the buck to Deftones. I think they are sincere in wanting to know who did this...but the real motivation for the statement is legal.
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they'd get sued anyway. they organize the family values tour. that said, the part about the deftones was strangely worded in their statement. i'm hoping the reason was only to establish time of day.
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Wouldn't this world be a better place if these guys had all killed each other off at Woodstock '99?
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hey, hang on, the retarded kid and the pregnant woman were not part of the stage show?
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blame? pass the buck? do you people really think that music makes people murder each other? no band is at fault here, read more zappa.
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"Man brain dead after Korn gig"
...not really surprising, is it.
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What kind of steakead mook piece of shit does something like that?? Music or no music, now a poor kid has no father because two Blue Collar TV fans decided to take things too far at a concert. This is terribly fucked up, and I hope that crystal meth and hunting accidents take violent white trash like this out of the gene pool before they can cause harm to another in the future.
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Hey, I was at Woodstock '99 and the Korn set ruled. But I digress...So I was over at headtochrist.com, Brian "Head" Welch's official 'I love Jesus' website, and read his rationale for quitting the band. Welch sites as one of the primary reasons for him leaving the band as being money coming more into play: the band's management wanted a more active role in making band decisions, wanted the band to make more money, and encouraged Korn to bring in co-writers on songs, all of which everyone except Welch were fine with. So that's why he left Korn. That, and the whole Jesus thing.
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Whoops...I was so busy being clever I forgot to add, so I'm gonna have to side with Welch on this one.
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anyone who thinks Korn is passing the buck on the Deftones is just looking for an excuse to bash Korn.
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i hate korn, wouldnt happen during the deftones
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um, no one needs help finding an excuse to bash Korn.
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Okay, I wasn't at this show. But to respond to ag's point: I've not only seen mosh pits on the lawn at Hi-Fi Buys / Lakewood, I've actually participated in them. Specifically, a younger version of me ran around and slammed during the Beastie Boys set at Lolla '94. Yes, on the lawn.
While I can't say if moshing happened on the lawn at the Korn show, it's not out of the question.
And I'm old enough to remember the news about the Pantera show there where folks tried moshing up in front of the stage, and wound up actually ripping seats *off the concrete* and throwing them around.
For the record, I despise that venue, and I plan to never see a show there again. Sheds are the worst venue design of all time.
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one less fan of shitty music...
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uglyredhonda: point taken. been to my fair share of metal shows at tweeter ctr in boston but i've never been to the hi-fi buys shed. i've seen rowdiness but never moshing up in the lawn but if it happens down in Atlanta, you would know better than i. the news accounts i've read still sound like this wasn't a pit but more the case of two guys acting like human bowling balls.
i still find it most interesting (and irresponsible) that "news" outlets such as MTV immediately started screaming "death in the mosh pit!" without any sort of confirmation, simply b/c it was a metal show. their follow-up stories have noticeably omitted the "mosh pit" phrase.
this sounds not like moshing gone wrong. it sounds like a plain old suckerpunch after a bunch of drunks were fucking around. could've happened anywhere -- in the parking lot, on the line for the bathroom, whereever.. the fact that the knee-jerk reaction is that "moshing kills" is what pisses me off. and i don't even mosh, nor do i like it!
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moshing is and always has been lame.
korn is and always has been lame.
korn.
what a bunch of losers.
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moshing is and always has been lame.
korn is and always has been lame.
korn.
what a bunch of losers.
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moshing is and always has been lame.
korn is and always has been lame.
korn.
what a bunch of losers.
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Jaird,
Please turn in your music snob badge, and go fuck yourself. Thank you.
Someone deserves to be beaten to death here, that's much is certain...
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Seriously, if you are too stupid to see how innovative and influential Korn were, at least in their early days, you are an idiot. If you don't like metal, and don't know anything about it, then don't comment on it.
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booboo wrote:
> moshing is and always has been lame.
>korn is and always has been lame.
>korn.
>what a bunch of losers.
i bet korn know how to use a 'post' button at least.
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I can say, having gone through my metal / mini-goth / retard phase in 5th/6th grade, that, yes, Korn are a bunch ass-clowns. And good for Head. I'd rather find Jesus than play for Korn any day.
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we cannot figure out this post button thingy
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we cannot figure out this post button thingy
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we cannot figure out this post button thingy
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korn influenced what has got to be the worst epoch in metal's short history. anyone who thinks limp bizkit and linkin park constitute any sort of legacy is seriously deluded.
i'd personally rather go out asphyxiating in some auto-erotic mishap to be found by my mom, hand still clutching my tool, than die at a korn concert. but still no one, even a korn fan, deserves to die at a rock show.
oddly enough, i found the crowd at the unholy alliance tour to be pretty tame, even during the mighty slayer's set.
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Well im here to set this stait because I saw what happend as did abunch of other people. Thier were mosh pits so I dont know what the fuck some people are talking about. Drunkin bullshit that was so cruel. And it was'nt no bands fault so u cant put the shit on them becuase people always blame the music.
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> Seriously, if you are too stupid to see how
> innovative and influential Korn were, at least
> in their early days, you are an idiot.
Much the same way Hitler was influential in getting the Germans to murder millions of Jews. Being popular and influential are only good if your works or legacy are positive. Korn's legacy is that of taking a giant, smelly, wet shit on Rock and Roll, Heavy Metal and Rap (among other things, they were the worst white rappers since Vanilla Ice). If you're too stupid to see how awful Korn and all of the Korn knock-offs were, you are an idiot.
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"H8KORN" let me guess you listen to coldplay while rubbing your asshole with vasiline whispering" oh how sweet it is to hate korn" ......you love it other wise you wouldn't have named yourself "H8KORN"..........aaaand ranking on someone elses intelligence shows just how low yours is=D
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......especially based on the music one listens to. your fuckin' pathetic.
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it's "you're" fuckin' pathetic...
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velvetkevorkian, I dunno if I can speak for "H8KORN", but I personally hate Coldplay every bit as much as I do Korn. It's not about hard versus soft (which seems to be the contrast you're trying to pull). I like bands like The Boy Least Likely To and Architecture in Helsinki as much as I like bands like Big Black and The Jesus Lizard.
As for Korn being influential, I agree with the point that influence isn't always a good thing. For example, Nirvana is a perfectly good band, a great band. But they're overrated because most people talk about how they changed the landscape of Rock and Roll. However, I could name about ten shitty bands inspired by Nirvana before I could name one good band that was inspired by Nirvana. And I could name ten good bands inspired by the Pixies, not including Nirvana, before I could name one good band inspired by Nirvana.
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actually it's "you are" ......."turd burglar" name makes sense ,you really are anal!....whatever hits your sail i guess.
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listen fido i tend not to give a shit about most other peoples musical pereferences whether they're tasteful, trendy or not even considered music .......what i do find amusing is how others stereotype themselves by stereotyping others purely based on one or two bands someone listens 2, and it's just a shadow of someone online......it's like a really sad revenge of the nerds. and you throwing random bands at me in a vain attempt to prove your musical taste is valid is just nonsense it's as if you're trying to say that someone who listens to manic street preachers can't listen to messhugah or blonde redhead or the butthole surfers. it also shows what a bitter dinosaur you might actually be by saying how the pixies were a superior band than nirvana and inspired better bands than them ......you know the Pixies r bigger than they've ever been now they're right like almost over the level of popularity Nirvana ever had so loosen your panties already....yikes!
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.....also alot of shitty bands were inspired by the Pixies not including Nirvana....why were they shitty because they weren't the Pixies .......at least Nirvana had enough integrity to explore their own style......man you're all turd burglers or knob polishers whatever you call yourselvesXP
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........aaaaand The boy least likely to and Architecture in Helinski both suck unbelievably even worse than coldpay if you must Big Black isn't worth commenting on .......i actually don't mind The jesus lizard .....anyway thought i'd end it on that note ......hope your boring life pucks up some day .....you know with your bad case of shitty music and all.......goodluck;)
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whoa.......did i mean to wish your boring life "picks "up or "fucks" up .........ahh either way , here's a tip in case you're truely lame(which you undoubtedly are) ......when a cute girl smiles at you .....(ready) .......smile back but not to aggresively(your probably unattractive at best,right) you don't want to scare the girl that would be bad,understand?.........but if your seriously deformed i would suggest not leaving your house ........but listen to good music while your in there ,got it.........great!.......one step at a time,buddy!;)
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Atlanta should be nuked off the map, or floated to Africa.
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I had no idea that my life was so boring because I have better things to do than convey my thoughts on music through five consecutive grammatically retarded angry comments.
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I like korn, coldplay, and atlanta....omg, I must be the lamest of the lame....I was there at that concert in atlanta, but I knew nothing of the incident until the next day... we had seats close to the stage, under the "shed" at the amphitheater
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ummmm.......you don't have a life otherwise you wouldn't have bothered reading all of that garbage and responding to it in such a way that would leave one to believe you were born with a vagina....and apparently it's rank with a bitter hint of old lady repression.
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sit "fido" ......good girl!......now roll over and dieXD
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How cares who was on the stage at the time of the incident!All that matters is, that we as Fan's need to pull together and find these two Jerk's, who are responsible for this cowardly and senseless act.And to all of You Idiot's out there who have the nerve to say "he should not have brought his pregnant women and a retarded child to that concert" What--pregnant women and retarded children don't have the same right's to go an enjoy good music!? Screw You!!!!
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i agree i mean fidos' a retard and she enjoys "shiitty" music but music nonetheless for instance the jesus lizard. if that retard could listen and enjoy worse bands than so can any other retards ......hopefully good music but no ones perfect.......and they're retards after all, they don't know any better=D
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velvetkevorkian, give it the fuck up dude. What do you have to prove? Are you taking some kind of weird revenge out on me because someone who listened to Beat Happening molested you as a child? Of course I was going to read what you wrote. Did you expect me not to? Who's a bigger loser then? I had one concise comment in rebuttal to five of your idiotic rants. Then you tell me that I'm a loser because I responded to five comments that you spent the time to type and then later revealed that I'm an idiot for reading them. Why did you type them then? Were you hoping that some middle school, goth loser three months from now is going to type "Korn" into a search engine, pull up this article, and think to himself, "Woah, that fido guy just totally got fucking pwned. And he has a vagina. Korn rules, lol." Is that all you'll have to prove with whatever time you've spent on this Earth? I hope to God that you're younger than me, because I can't imagine anything sadder than an adult Korn fan whose major stake in life is anonymously totally pwning some 17-year-old indie rock snob with a vagina this one time over the internet.
Thanks for your time. I look forward to your next seventeen comments about me. But as a warning, that'll automatically make you a retrad with a vagina........who rubs his clituris with a stuffed animal while fingercaving himself.....and while he also is listening to Korn too.
Love, fido
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whoa,buddy! somebody who listened to beat happening molested you as a kid? i didn't know that......sorry fido.....but i'm actually not a korn fan, i perfer the deftones ......and i actually really like Beat Happening ......it's terrible you were molested by a fan once, no wonder your a die hard for indie rock. the trauma must have really instilled geared your memories into some survial mode latching on to the only hope you knew. it must be very hard for you. good luck poor fido may your journey be easily traveled in your fragile state of mind, not to mention the mental problems you were born with already- luv the kevorkian p.s. i'm not a fan of 1 particular genre of music like alot of narrow minded empty shells like you(but you were molested that's not fair) i appreciate and thrive for the best of all areas of the musical world and not limiting myself to a tiny vision of a handful of artists. In turn i use the inspiration i recieve from many aspects of life and form my own vision in this existence. my own! i'm not a fan of anyone, their work and i never will be. i would simply admire a successful effort on the artists part but i have enough self-respect and integrity to understand especially being an artist myself that it's their vision not mine.This keeps me from becoming innately fanatical of a music genre or musician(like some people..hint) .......and this is what seems to have clouded your mind failing to see my original qualms with a certain individual as well as mistaking me for a korn fan(2 quick to hate...poor girl do you see how your being blinded?)......i observe fan fanatacism as an unfortunate sign of ignorance and i have little patience for any sort around me or those who aren't. Continuing these blindsided rebutles of yours waves a tremendous patriotic flag of brainless complacency,instead of simply debating the issue at hand intelligently. If you are part of my generation as you claim this world is purely fucked without a doubt.(and just because you were molested is no excuse for being ignorant and making the world worse for everyone!)....anyway good luck to you poor girl, i only hope one day you'll come to terms with yourself realizing how ignorant and pathetic you are and eventually heal from traumatic events from the past. remember their is life after indie! your own vision ......that's what matters to you! -hajimemashite!;)
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People rarely die at good concerts RARELY.
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wow.......so i suppose alot of people died while watching The jesus lizard ......thats' believable i suppose....... but how do you explain all of those who walked away from Madonna unharmed?
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i mean....Madonna's terrible i don't understand why people don't just drop dead at the first note the concert not to mention hundreds of other acts that plague the earth.
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Korn bastards..
the lead guitarist rear ended my stepmom with his rolls royce in newport beach a week or two ago. still no good communication and stuff. its frustrating, my dad is pissed off.
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man.......sorry to hear that.
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KoRn rocks the world.
They have been my main favorite band for over 11 years now. If ppl dont like KoRn, I really dont give a shit, cuz it wont affect the meaning KoRn has in my life in any way.
I think its sad that ppl post childish comments like: KoRn sucks, KoRn are assclowns, KoRn flame flame flame.
In my opinion. You can either like KoRn, or you dont like KoRn, but you cannot claim that they suck. Because if they suck, how do you explain their success?
and yes they were very innovative in the early years. I still listen to their oldskool mostly, an d I even like the newer albums as well.
If you claim KoRn sucks, or has horrible music or whatever, you make a band then, and become more succesfull then they have become.
Otherwise just stfu. An opinion like: KoRn is the worst music ever, from someone who doesn't even know how to play any instrument, is not valid in any way.
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F%*k you guys, korn are nothing like most bands out there with there pointless made-up fake music ( slipknot) so stop bitchen y`all don`t like there music thats fine but there is no bullshit about them FACT
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I was at the Family Values last year and last night in the lawn area, and i can honestly say there were pits at both shows on the lawn because i was in the pits. Further more the Deftones set last year was the set in which i saw about 20 or so fights. Last night they had to tear gas the crowd in the lawn for starting fires. That being said no band is to blame for what the fans do, the action is upon those who did the crime.
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