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June 10, 2008

Lil Wayne's Tha Carter III Is So Good, You Guys

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And you heard it here (not-even-close-to) first. But I couldn't wait anymore for a video or a whatever to babble about it. For all the goodness the leak cycle's been springing of late, it's Lil Wayne's latest that's on endless loop in my player, and in my head when the phones aren't plugged. In today's NY Times, Jon Pareles says "Tha Carter III is Lil Wayne's determined push into pop," and nobody that's taken a spin through III is arguing. The wordplay runs deep -- you can throw darts blind at a lyric sheet and never miss a line worth quoting. From "Mr. Carter":

Man, I got Summer hating on me cause I'm hotter than the sun / Got Spring hating on me cause I ain't never sprung / Winter hating on me cause I'm colder than ya'll / And I would never, I would never, I would never Fall / I'm being hated on by the season / So fuck ya'll who hating for no reason

Right. See also: any song on the album, the endless disses ("you're like a bitch with no ass, you ain't got shit"), the boasts, the disillusionment with the state of the art (e.g. "Dr. Carter"). He's funny, he's pop-cult savvy, and he's getting emotional ("But I wear my heart on my sleeve like it's the new fashion"). The beats are silly good, too, and to underscore Pareles's point, there are more tracks to contend for Summer Jam status on just the album's first half (which I can't barely even get beyond, they're so repeatable) than the rest of the pop field combined. Thank the producers -- everyone from Kanye ("Comfortable," which has a croony Babyface hook, and the gospel-y "Let The Beat Build") to Just Blaze (sped up vocal sample style on "Mr. Carter") to Swizz Beatz (the already mentioned, awesome, game-assessing skit-song "Dr. Carter" -- see Fluxblog for more on that one).

Jay-Z's on board, sorta. "Mr. Carter" is the torch-passing song, in which Sean gives it on, to Dwayne, in a guest verse or two ("Young Carter go farther, go further, go harder. Is that not why we came? And if not, then why bother?"), and then Lil Wayne insists (like he does) "next time you mention Pac, Biggie, and Jay-Z don't forget Weezy, baby." Which may seem like an act of humility from Hov, but where Weezy's got "A Milli," Jigga's got, like, "A Billi." Naturally.

Anyway, you can hear most of Tha Carter III here. I tried doing this on Gabe's Videogum post but it didn't really take, so we can do it here: If you have a favorite line from III, post it. I just wanna see how quickly we wind up transcribing the entire album.

Posted at 5:22 PM by amrit
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abracadabra, I'm up like Viagra

Posted by: wordupagain at 06/10/08 7:14 PM | Reply
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fuck all y'all who think lil wayne is wack. He is the best rapper alive. So fuck all y'all bitches who's haters and aint gon get no where in life cause you a muther fuckin hater. Y'all listen to his music and shit and then repeat that shit. And now y'all bitches wanna hate on nigga. Shid don't get mad cause he doing his thang and he's succeeded and life. So for all my haters FUCK Y"ALL BITCHES

Posted by: SWEETCHERRIES in reply to wordupagain's comment at 06/17/08 11:51 AM | Reply
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People need to stop with all this "it's a classic!/it's the biggest disappointment ever!" nonsense. Tha Carter III is one of the most entertaining hip-hop records in years, and if it doesn't crown Lil Wayne as the king of the genre (or the "best rapper alive"), it will undoubtedly be rattling out of speakers all summer long. It's not a classic, but it also just came out - how can something be considered a classic unless time has had an opportunity to act on it?

Best Track: "Dr. Carter", by far.

Arthritis in my hand from writing.
But I'm a doctor they don't understand my writing.
So I stop writing.
Now I'm like lightning.
And you ain't Fish Young so don't clash with the Titans.
Fast and exciting.
My passion is frightening.
Now let me put some more vocab in your I.V.
Here take this Vicodin
Like it and love it
and confidence has no budget so pay me no mind
I don't walk like I talk it cause I'm running
I don't do it cause I done it and I'm in the emergency punnet (?)

Posted by: vlad at 06/10/08 7:16 PM | Reply
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I think this album is a big peice of shit, I think weezy is a retard with mediocre punchlines and an overly intoxicated, not intoxicating flow. I think the album art is affending, that he would even have the balls to put a babys face on his album in refrence to such monumental and incredible works like "Ready to Die", and "illmatic". Those albums are ridiculous, you guys should listen to them sometime, cuz you've obviously never heard em if your hypin up this over post produced, glammed out, ghetto fab garbage. Fuck Weezy, I don't know the guy personally but fuck 'em his sucess should only be credited to the current dumbing down of america, you people are programmed to like this retarted non-sense, can't you see? "Tha Carter lll" should just drop the same night as the next seaon premiere of American Idol. I'm sure you love that shit too.

Posted by: Caso in reply to vlad's comment at 06/12/08 6:01 PM | Reply
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Why do so many people hate on this young man? He game from the gutter and now has made something of his self. He raps about what he knows and if you don’t like it then don’t listen to it. We are in America and have the write to freedom of speech. We have so much negativity in the world. I’ve never seen so many haters in my life. Again if you don’t like his lyrics, or comprehend what he is saying then don’t listen. Change the station. People may not like the way you do your job, but you are still doing it (that is if you have a job). Give him a break; he is not on the street corner poisoning our communities with drugs.

Posted by: Black in reply to Caso's comment at 06/12/08 6:51 PM | Reply
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Well said.

Posted by: jackie in reply to Caso's comment at 06/18/08 11:43 AM | Reply
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Boy I got so many girls like I'm Michael Lowry
Even Gwen Stefani said she couldn't doubt me

Posted by: james bean at 06/10/08 7:29 PM | Reply
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Flow so sick make u wanna throw ya food up/Ice water chest and my wrist like a pool cup/2 twin snipers I give ya ass a crew cut

Posted by: tbone at 06/10/08 7:45 PM | Reply
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"Safe sex is great sex
Better wear a latex
Cuz you dont want that late text
that "I think I'm late" text
So wrap it up
but but he so sweet,
she wanna lick the rapper "

Posted by: Coop at 06/10/08 8:08 PM | Reply
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A very honorable message to young people, Lil Wayne. Who needs sex ed in the 5th grade? just give um a Lil Wayne record. He's a clever SOB. This track rocks.

Posted by: Robert in reply to Coop's comment at 06/11/08 11:06 PM | Reply
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hi
lil wayne is horrible. if you like ANY of his music, you suck at life. horribly. okay

Posted by: joe at 06/10/08 8:18 PM | Reply
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Lil Wayne can suck my cock. He sucks. A LOT. This album has a fucking horrible cover and is horribly overrated album.

Posted by: Evan at 06/10/08 8:37 PM | Reply
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no brake lights on my car-rear/career

Posted by: johnnn at 06/10/08 9:32 PM | Reply
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Other things Joe and Evan hate: sunshine, fun, music, laughter. Please go off somewhere and die.

Posted by: Shea at 06/10/08 9:38 PM | Reply
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k

or just die. simply.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to Shea's comment at 06/10/08 11:10 PM | Reply
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it fast and easy

Posted by: taye at 06/10/08 9:58 PM | Reply
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worst album of the year, hands down. fucking horrible.

Posted by: spencer at 06/10/08 10:05 PM | Reply
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Yeah, to the left to the left
If you wanna leave be my guest, you can step
Feeling Irreplacable listen to Beyonce
But ok ill put you out on your Bday

Posted by: sean smarter at 06/10/08 10:30 PM | Reply
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k

"wayne quit"

Posted by: k profile link at 06/10/08 11:11 PM | Reply
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1. It's Vince Young not Fish Young. I'm in the Emergency On It, not punnet.
2. It's Cool Cup not Pool Cup. 2 twin "clip"pers, not snipers. (Guns have "clips")


My favorite bar is easily the one the author quoted.

" Man I got summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun, got Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung, Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than ya'll, and I would never, I would never, I would never Fall. I'm being hated by the seasons, so Fuck ya'll who hatin' for no reason.

Posted by: david at 06/10/08 11:18 PM | Reply
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PHONE HOME!

can't go wrong in my book w. an E.T. reference!

Posted by: david at 06/10/08 11:22 PM | Reply
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Ima venereal disease like a menstrual bleed..

Posted by: jkkjk at 06/10/08 11:31 PM | Reply
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"Taste my words/Swallow my thoughts/and if it's too nasty, spit it back at me."

Posted by: Thor at 06/10/08 11:52 PM | Reply
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Album of the year without a doubt, this thing is incredible!!!

"I don't have a spine
I don't fantasize
I just mastermind
Then go after mine
you see I handle mine
I dismantle mine
I told a tool box bitch its hammertime!!!"

Posted by: Cale at 06/11/08 12:02 AM | Reply
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my favorite parts are when he experiments with cadence.. i dont have my cd next to me right now but i think i can approximate my two favorites:

"in the wave pool, at blue bayou, and i waved, fool, as i blew by you."

"i get bread like cold cuts, you know what, your girl go down and never go up"

Posted by: nick at 06/11/08 12:32 AM | Reply
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I aint kind hot I'm sauna
I sweat money and the bank is my shower
Haha and that pistol is my towel
Ha so stop sweatin me coward

sick

Posted by: joseph at 06/11/08 12:35 AM | Reply
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"And I would never, I would never, I would never Fall"

What a cadence. I just love the guttural urgency in this line. Especially the way the rhyme just weaves around the beat.

This is unquestionably Wayne's transcendent moment on the album. The acknowledgment of his arrival as THE best rapper alive (sorry Kanye) and the man charged with the unenviable task of saving an art form.

Posted by: Sean at 06/11/08 12:39 AM | Reply
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"And I would never, I would never, I would never Fall"

What a cadence. I just love the guttural urgency in this line. Especially the way the rhyme just weaves around the beat.

This is unquestionably Wayne's transcendent moment on the album. The acknowledgment of his arrival as THE best rapper alive (sorry Kanye) and the man charged with the unenviable task of saving an art form.

Posted by: Tom Breihan at 06/11/08 12:39 AM | Reply
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I'm trying hard to get into it. Will give it another shot, I guess.

Posted by: mark at 06/11/08 12:42 AM | Reply
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"And I would never, I would never, I would never Fall"

What a cadence. I just love the guttural urgency in this line. Especially the way the rhyme just weaves around the beat.

This is unquestionably Wayne's transcendent moment on the album. The acknowledgment of his arrival as THE best rapper alive (sorry Kanye) and the man charged with the unenviable task of saving an art form.

Posted by: Tom Breihan at 06/11/08 12:42 AM | Reply
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This one gets me every time:

"I don't O U like two vowels."

Is there any other mainstream rapper turning the English language into his personal plaything like that these days? Cause if there is, I haven't seen him.

Posted by: vlad at 06/11/08 1:06 AM | Reply
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"Blame Oliver North and Iran Contra /
I ran contraband that sponsored /
Before this rhyming shit, we was in concert."
- "Blue Magic", Jay-Z

I'd say Jay-Z has the whole wordplay thing down even better, honestly.

Posted by: ethan in reply to vlad's comment at 06/11/08 3:46 PM | Reply
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still think wayne is WAAAAAAY overrated. i enjoy the album, but it certainly isn't "hell hath no fury," but what is? anyhow... personal favorite (from "a milli"):

"a million here
a million there
sicilian bitch with long hair
with coconut derriere
i'm like smoking the thinnest air
i open the lamborghini
hoping them crackers see me
like 'look at that bastard weezy'"

Posted by: glass_family at 06/11/08 2:26 AM | Reply
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when I popped "A Milli" into my 96 Lumina - I had no idea the audio system had it in her!

Posted by: k profile link in reply to glass_family's comment at 06/11/08 10:55 AM | Reply
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"As I hit the kill switch, now that's how you let the beat build, biiiiiitch!"

Who says it better?

Posted by: F Baby at 06/11/08 3:38 AM | Reply
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The Other Matthew

I don't really care about the content of the record. The cover alone makes it one of the greatest albums of all time.

Posted by: The Other Matthew profile link at 06/11/08 3:45 AM | Reply
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You guys are into it because of the irony, right? Because I'd be worried if you actually enjoyed it for artistic reasons.

Posted by: Zachra at 06/11/08 8:35 AM | Reply
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lil wayne fans you are all dumb as fucking hell, and i hope each of you realize that you dont know hip hop let alone good music. Given this guy has improved since he first dropped i will never support his album his songs his verses....he is the reason i dread hip hop now, the reason i dont listen to radio stations, the reason why real artists like myself cant express the art in the form it was really intended. But i guess to all you im just a hater right? well i hate the fact that people with no talent get on and people with more talent than lil wayne could ever possess in three different lifetimes dont. Dont make sense to me, but im a hater right>?

Posted by: ANonymous at 06/11/08 9:14 AM | Reply
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not a hater, just someone with no concept of what "talent" or "real artist" means.

Posted by: h8r aide in reply to ANonymous's comment at 06/11/08 10:32 AM | Reply
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'scribe yr name, casper!!

Posted by: k profile link in reply to ANonymous's comment at 06/11/08 12:43 PM | Reply
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"like I'm from College Park, but I'm from Holly Grove/now all my blood screams sup-woop & da-da-doe"

Posted by: msg6v profile link at 06/11/08 9:47 AM | Reply
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..and that Atlanta Hawks reference sounding spot-on with Outkast gets me e'ry time.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to msg6v's comment at 06/11/08 1:03 PM | Reply
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Tha Carter III is damn good and if you keep in mind the 5 tracks from The Leak earlier this year I think it makes a pretty amazing overall body of work. Wayne is easily top-5.

Posted by: msg6v profile link at 06/11/08 9:51 AM | Reply
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damn i hate a shy bitch / don't you hate a shy bitch? / yeah, i ate a shy bitch / she ain't shy no more / she changed her name to my bitch.

unhhh.

Posted by: ben at 06/11/08 10:29 AM | Reply
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Nigga sumthin sumthin, I got a rash and I ain't frontin/whip a haiku out don't know what that means/but nigga feelin black when I open dem jeans

Posted by: Skip at 06/11/08 11:06 AM | Reply
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I love you Wayne, you can do me any day, we'l have great sex and you can wrap it up in a latex but you're so sweet i wanna lick the rapper. you're the greatest and i dont care what punks think. in your famous words, 'fuck ya'll for hatin for no reason'!

Posted by: Whitney at 06/11/08 11:22 AM | Reply
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every fucking line of it. although, these two would have to be my favorite so far:

and I’d rather be pushing flowers,
than to be in the penn sharing showers

and

"and you ain't vince young so don't clash with the titans." (always nice to hear your team and franchise qb get a shoutout on the hottest joint of the summer.)

weezy baby!!!!

Posted by: nick at 06/11/08 11:23 AM | Reply
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The other day, my cousin Brandy summed up why people like Lil Wayne in the best way I've heard in a long time. This is a quote from her:
"He's one of us. He wants to do what he's good at, which is rapping, and smoke. I want to do what I'm good at, which is styling hair, and smoke. That's about it. He has crazy hair and a slew of tattoos and so do I. It's like looking in a mirror when I hear him rap. He knows what's going on in this generation, because he is this generation and his listeners and living it right along with him."

Posted by: Ciara at 06/11/08 12:18 PM | Reply
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I tell the novice that he's an Optimo blend of Kool Keith ['Black Elvis / Lost in Space'-era] and Jimi Hendrix's LSD-laced sweatband.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to Ciara's comment at 06/11/08 12:39 PM | Reply
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He so sweet shorty wanna like the rapper!!!! dont hate on weezy the kid is sick thats why haters are throwing up.

Posted by: Khabane at 06/11/08 12:23 PM | Reply
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unless this is a joke, this new fad of hipsters enjoying gangsta rap for its percieved glamour or irony is pretty racist, in my opinion. and metaphor raps were played out in 1995 - when most of you think hip-hop was created. go back to liking pavement and weezer, please.

Posted by: jerk at 06/11/08 12:41 PM | Reply
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He's trying to reach you. There's no irony here.

'Jon Pareles says "Tha Carter III is Lil Wayne's determined push into pop," and nobody that's taken a spin through III is arguing.'

Posted by: chr in reply to jerk's comment at 06/11/08 12:57 PM | Reply
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k

do YOU hate Al Sharpton as much as weeeeezy, jerk?

Posted by: k profile link in reply to jerk's comment at 06/11/08 1:02 PM | Reply
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osh-kosh-bgosh posh spice husband couldn't kick it like i kick it

Posted by: chr at 06/11/08 12:49 PM | Reply
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lil wayne sucks dick sorry fellas he has no flow, is retarded, and has horrible beats. sucka dick fellas

Posted by: joe at 06/11/08 1:13 PM | Reply
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I HONESTLY HAVE ALOT OF FAVORITE LINES IN EACH SONG ND THERE ALMOST ALL LISTED ON HERE BUT THE ONE THAT STUCK WITH ME IS WHEN HE SAYS..../"FUCK ME IM ALL ABOUT WE LIKE PARIS"/ON TRACK # 13......LMAO THATS GENIUS BEING SAID THAT PEOPLE ALWAYS CRITICIZE WAYNE BUY SAYING HE CANT RAP ABOUT ANYTHIN BUT HIMSELF HE PROVED U WRONG ONCE AGIAN WITH THAT LINE SO KEEP HATIN ON HIM..

Posted by: KILO aka DA WHIZ KID at 06/11/08 1:26 PM | Reply
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I never thought about CAPS LOCK REPLIES before.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to KILO aka DA WHIZ KID's comment at 06/11/08 1:39 PM | Reply
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SG, you've been hustled hard. But I think that was the intention. This album kicks.

Posted by: DS48 at 06/11/08 1:41 PM | Reply
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u look so cute';';;';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';';'

Posted by: neshia at 06/11/08 1:52 PM | Reply
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I love how inexplicably the at best decent rapper Lil Wayne has become every non-hip hop lover's favorite rapper, endorsed by hipsters and other people that are under-educated on the genre

Posted by: wes at 06/11/08 2:17 PM | Reply
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Agreed... and I thought Clipse were overrated.

Posted by: Geoff in reply to wes's comment at 06/11/08 7:31 PM | Reply
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I'm convinced this is an experiment and inside joke by Pitchfork to see if they can get hipsters to listen to anything if they give it a lot of hype. Point is, this is stupid, ridiculous music, and I don't really see why people are praising it. I mean, have you heard that Lollipop song? Are you kidding me?

Posted by: Sean Jean at 06/11/08 2:35 PM | Reply
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what does prickfork™ have to do with any of this.. ?

Posted by: k profile link in reply to Sean Jean's comment at 06/11/08 2:52 PM | Reply
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totallllly agreed. the more you mention pitchfork the more famous and obnoxious you make them.

Posted by: tbone in reply to k's comment at 06/14/08 4:35 AM | Reply
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i'm sayin' - it's the whole buckwheat/aunt jemima/blackface complex recycled. pop culture looooves them some shuckin' & jivin'. and record labels know this. it's all good if lil wayne's demographic supports him, but when college kids are finding it entertaining and charming because of its irony, i can't help but want to vomit. "LIKE, OMG the beat is SO HOT! And DID YOU SEE HIS BLING!?" meanwhile they're still using the N word in private conversations.

Posted by: jerk at 06/11/08 2:48 PM | Reply
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Ack, Stereogum! You got Hip Hop message board all over my white boy strums site! I'm usually here to avoid these silly Weezy arguments that wreck the Hip Hop forums.

It's just Weezy, take him or leave him. The hype about how great he is is obviously overblown, but he's better than some others. Middle of the road.

I'll say this, though, if you don't consider yourself a Hip Hop head (and you would know if you were), then stay away from proclamations about how he's the greatest rapper ever. You're making yourselves look silly. And qualifying a statement like that by comparing him to Kanye West is extremely fucking laughable. Even hardcore Kanye fanboys pretty much agree that he's a terrible rapper. His skill is in his beats.

I know the first rap album that touches you seems like a magical experience, but don't forget that the music has been going on for almost 30 years now. Just because you never liked it before doesn't mean that no one in the past has ever been any good at it. Check your egos, please. There's enough of that already in Hip Hop.

Posted by: Huph profile link at 06/11/08 3:23 PM | Reply
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Three Feet High and Rising.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to Huph's comment at 06/11/08 4:08 PM | Reply
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Honestly dude, 10 lame comments? You're trying a little too hard. Go play outside or something.

Posted by: The Police in reply to k's comment at 06/11/08 4:46 PM | Reply
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Actually I am a hip head, and I think Weezy F. Baby is the best ever!! He is much better than Common, and Mf Doom, two of my favorites.. Better than Nas and Ghostface who are one dimensional but also favorites of mine!! Way better than 2 pac who was terrible and is the most overatted rapper in the history of the world!! As for Biggie and Jay Z, he's better than them two, both unreal mc's, but neither were ever willing to let loose the way Weezy does and pretty much say whatever he wants in whatever voice, speed, or impression that he wants.....

I think he's jjust hard for hip hop heads to like, because he's one of the only top tier mc's that has no real concern with saying something positive for the "kids". But As far as Lyrical wordplay goes, he is really on anther level than everyone in the genre, or everyone is music really.

Posted by: Avey at 06/11/08 4:18 PM | Reply
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i really hope this post was a joke to get people like me riled up. to say that weezy is better than nas and MF DOOM is completely absurd, they've been consistent and innovative for years, not just one or two albums worth. but anyway, lil wayne's positioning was brilliant, not his music. think about it, he seperated himself from club shit by actually making his rhymes more complex and at times clever, so he can't be compared with the mindless stuff that comes from guys like akon and fifty. But, he keeps it accesible with good, but fairly common samples and remixes, so it's not too underground to be heard by both hip hop and rock or indie fans alike. So in that sense, Weezy is absolutely brilliant because he's getting respect from all over the music world without losing any valuable weed money. However, just by reading people's favorite lines on this board, he's not doing anything out of this world. He uses some clever word play (some of it really just isn't) and has a solid flow. But there has been and there still are better rappers out there.

Posted by: edgar allen bro in reply to Avey's comment at 06/12/08 9:41 AM | Reply
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"Way better than 2 pac who was terrible and is the most overatted rapper in the history of the world!!"

what bitch! no b.s. u can die for that reckless shit! tupac made music that lives forever and is the world's favorite rapper, go to africa, south america, china, russia anywhere people are going thru real struggle and tupac is the NO.1 rapper. you better check your soft ice cream ass before u talk sh-t about any of those rappers you named..but TUPAC LIVED HIS SHIT BITCH!! u aint living nothin which is why you like cartoon ass rappers. tupac would slap the sh-t out of any of those rappers u named except BIG but they already took it there so u know how real they are. every rapper after TUPAC & BIGGIE IS A FAKE FUCK WANNABE, INCLUDING JAY-Z!! learn some history ho!

Posted by: westcoastisworldwide!!!!! in reply to Avey's comment at 06/14/08 4:11 AM | Reply
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Anyways yall, this is hot. The most creative, conceptual rap record since RedMan. Don't expect the typical weezy here... expect the same crazy rhymes of Lil Wyane but with the clever song themes of Eminem.

Still.... A Milli, the only song like his mixtape stuff is the best on the album.

Posted by: Roger Erwinway at 06/11/08 4:41 PM | Reply
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Fucking awful. Retards shouldn't be allowed to rap, sing, act or do anything but stay chained in the basement. You seriously have the intelligence of a cum stain if you think this is good hip-hop, rap or even music. Have fun at your day job mongoloids.

Posted by: dadsgravy at 06/11/08 6:12 PM | Reply
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k

I'd be willing to debate the intelligence of a cum stain - just need a touch more information, such as the size [standard 10cc..?] and freshness of said nectar.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to dadsgravy's comment at 06/11/08 7:30 PM | Reply
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K, you've really got to chill it on the commenting...or become more clever.

one or the other, man.

im just surprised people are still into that grossly overrated clipse album.

Posted by: nick at 06/11/08 9:10 PM | Reply
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k

lowercase k, dick.

Posted by: k profile link in reply to nick's comment at 06/11/08 10:53 PM | Reply
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Still here. Still pathetic.

Posted by: Beetlebum in reply to k's comment at 06/12/08 12:06 PM | Reply
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earthquake, anyone?

Posted by: ElliotP profile link at 06/11/08 9:11 PM | Reply
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