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June 29, 2006

Margot's Sick Of The Arcade Fire Bullshit

Each Note Secure talks to Indianapolis indie rockers M&TNSAS.

ENS: So, would it be an insult to say you guys are a poor man's Arcade Fire?

ANDY: No, it's not an insult...

RICHARD (TO ANDY): Yeah it is!

ENS: The poor man part?

ANDY: No, the Arcade Fire part...

RICHARD: I mean, you know, I just don't see the fucking connection. I like that band, but there are so many bands in this world that have more than four people, you know. I see these music critics saying stuff like, "It's the Arcade Fire because it came out after the Arcade Fire." But you know, we were making this record before we even heard the Arcade Fire.

I like them a lot, don't get me wrong, but we get this Arcade Fire bullshit, they've been around a year and have one record with ten songs on it. The reason it pisses me off I guess is because I sometimes feel like it just kind of devalues what we are doing. I mean come on, we sound nothing like them. I didn't grow up listening to indie rock, I didn't grow up listening to the Talking Heads. I like Paul Simon and stuff like that.

Margot & The Nuclear So And So's - "On A Freezing Chicago Street" (MP3 Link Expired)

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Poor man's arcade fire!?!?! It's true, they really don't sound like Arcade Fire at all. What kind of question is that?

Posted by: Alex at 06/29/06 2:32 PM | Reply
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Somebody is taking themselves too serious...

Posted by: scott at 06/29/06 2:41 PM | Reply
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I don't know if the answer or the question is worse.

Posted by: Quinn at 06/29/06 2:47 PM | Reply
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must have been tough to do an entire interview with someone that has their head that far up their own ass.

way too serious. his day job must be baggage screening at the airport.

Posted by: mattshu at 06/29/06 2:49 PM | Reply
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Margot Etc. are awesome that interviewer asked a douschey question and got a passionate response. I'd be pissed if someone called my band the poor man's version of something. And the point he makes about the different influences is pretty solid.

Posted by: aaron.spacemuseum at 06/29/06 2:53 PM | Reply
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It is true, they dont sound like AF, the comparison was due to the large amount of band members, the heavy reliance on varied instruments etc. I think his push back was because he took it as an influence, which is obviously not even close.

Posted by: joe at 06/29/06 2:55 PM | Reply
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margot and the so&sos suck anyway. who cares.

Posted by: huh at 06/29/06 2:56 PM | Reply
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I live in Indianapolis and, musical considerations aside, the dude ought to just be happy that anybody anywhere is saying anything about any band from Indianapolis. I know I am, and I don't care about Margot OR Arcade Fire.

These days a Brooklyn band can fall out of bed and get written up--if you catch their coattail, I say shut up and hang on.

Or make a big stink and hang on. I guess that can work, too.

Posted by: pk at 06/29/06 3:00 PM | Reply
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So does this mean that reviewers/interviewers with limited scopes of reference will now be comparing any band that doesn't have the standard G/B/D/V lineup to The Arcade Fire instead of Neutral Milk Hotel (like they have been for the past ten years)?

Posted by: Ben at 06/29/06 3:04 PM | Reply
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Everybody who labels a band as the Xth re-incarnation of Arcade Fire is an IDIOT. I love Arcade Fire but I also don't think that every band in the world releasing new music sounds anything AT ALL like Arcade Fire.

Blogs: Take Note. Stop using Arcade Fire as a reference to every ne wband you share. This is a sick trend and it needs to stop.

You're wrong for saying "they take themselves too seriously." It's annoying as hell for me as a listener to hear every band compared to AF. It must be 100x more frustrating for the band itself because they have to fulfill that false expectation and risk losing listeners because of it.

Don't be stupid.

Posted by: Ryan at 06/29/06 3:28 PM | Reply
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Margot fucking sucks rotted monkey tit; comparing them at all to AF is an insult to AF. I can't believe the audience cunts at Mercury Lounge that night left before wickedly good Film School who played after these talentless infants.

Posted by: Kevin at 06/29/06 3:30 PM | Reply
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Never fails- you could bost about the Beatles and you always get some hipsters calling them shit. Let's see your sorry asses start a band. Sucking rotten monkey tit is so clever too, you are so intelligent!

Posted by: Mez at 06/29/06 3:44 PM | Reply
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Great point, Ben at June 29, 2006 03:04 PM.

Posted by: Tony G at 06/29/06 3:45 PM | Reply
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You should check out Everthus the Deadbeats and Everything Now on myspace. They're also from Indiana.

Posted by: marc at 06/29/06 3:48 PM | Reply
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arcade fire put out one of the best records in the past 10 years....

this other band.....?

*yawn*

they should be glad they are even compared at all....

Posted by: maya lucia at 06/29/06 3:52 PM | Reply
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this sounds like christian rock to me

Posted by: boo boo at 06/29/06 3:53 PM | Reply
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M&TNS&S's are great. See them live, you'll change your tune.

Bad track to post Scott...try "Skeleton Key", "Quiet As A Mouse" or "Barfight, Revolution, Power, Violence" All great.

anyway, they're nothing like Arcade Fire and I think it's ok for Richard to say that they aren't - I don't the guy is full of himself at all.

Posted by: Dodge at 06/29/06 4:27 PM | Reply
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the sounded f'n amazing on the aol thingy they did a while back... far better acoustic than that thing AF did in union square, thats for sure


http://music.aol.com/artists/the-interface/margot-nuclear-so-so

Posted by: j.r. at 06/29/06 4:43 PM | Reply
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Couple of whiny fags.

Posted by: jerkstore at 06/29/06 5:22 PM | Reply
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four words: meow meow meow meow
worst song ever.
joe.

Posted by: joe at 06/29/06 5:24 PM | Reply
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"I didn't grow up listening to indie rock, I didn't grow up listening to the Talking Heads. I like Paul Simon and stuff like that."

Uh, yeah. Based on that track, I believe you when you say that. James Taylor meets Coldplay meets John Mayer (before he became a comedian).

Posted by: David at 06/29/06 5:33 PM | Reply
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they are more like an emo decemberists.

Posted by: 1000yregg at 06/29/06 6:02 PM | Reply
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weird
i saw them at sxsw and they were totally giving it the 'all or nothing' approach
i mean the bass player broke his bass
cmon
although i would be angry if i was in that band as well

Posted by: davey at 06/29/06 6:19 PM | Reply
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that guy is right on one level -- they sound nothing like arcade fire. because this song sucks. whoever said it sounds like christian rock is totally right.

Posted by: kelly at 06/29/06 6:47 PM | Reply
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they totally stole that guitar line from death cab. (but you don't hear me saying they sound anything like them.) this band sucks. they should be happy their band is in the same sentence as the af. quit whining.

Posted by: sie at 06/29/06 7:27 PM | Reply
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People do make too many comparisons to the Arcade Fire, who are OK, but overrated. The guy on Pitchfork said the singer from the Clor sounds like AC's singer....The Clor are totally great and I don't see the comparison at all.

Posted by: Matt at 06/29/06 7:39 PM | Reply
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oops I meant AF...

Posted by: Matt at 06/29/06 7:42 PM | Reply
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poor people don't like indie music. They like food and crack.

Posted by: Angela Davis at 06/29/06 8:54 PM | Reply
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This band actually IS a poor man's arcade fire:

http://www.myspace.com/rarariot

Posted by: WhoreyArchangel at 06/29/06 9:05 PM | Reply
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okay, sorry, but when i think of supposed "bands with more than four people in the indie scene" or whatever "scene" you want to refer to or call it, i don't think of arcade fire at all. i think of stars. or broken social scene. or the most serene republic. there are many other bands out there that i would pick a reference to, other than arcade fire.

or maybe i totally missed the memo about the arcade fire being the number one most compared band.

Posted by: caitlin at 06/29/06 10:45 PM | Reply
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Read the june 15 entry here: http://www.catbirdseat.org and then SHUT THE FUCK UP! you whiny hipster bitches. Grow up and do something useful. Idiots.

Posted by: elgr8tness at 06/29/06 10:57 PM | Reply
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dear elgr8tness,

suck it.

that is all :)

Posted by: boba at 06/30/06 12:40 AM | Reply
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I would distance myself from AF too, they fucking suck. I know everyone thinks they're so great, but c'mon, not a meaningful lyric on the album. B-O-R-I-N-G

Posted by: j at 06/30/06 1:36 AM | Reply
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Don't get me wrong, I loved the Arcade Fire record. I love the Margot record too. Richard wasn't slagging AF whatsoever... let's cut the crap here. They are two completely different bands doing completely different things. They come from different backgrounds, etc.... so who the fuck cares if Margot & Nuclear So and So's don't sound like AF! Who cares if they're not influenced by them? Margot do something original and they sound like themselves! Isn't that the point of making music? Hell, he gave AF props and you guys still want to rip him apart. Give them a fucking chance. The kid write fucking amazing songs for being 22 years old... let him do his thing.

Posted by: mackenzie at 06/30/06 10:38 AM | Reply
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Who the fuck are they? I could care less. I think its funny that every new dip shit band is so great, while all you dumbasses diss some great rock bands that have a little longevity. I'm guilty of it too, but come on...these guys sound like wankers. The Arcade Fire are the Arcade Fire. We don't NEED anymore. Not everything new is good.

Posted by: Karl at 06/30/06 11:32 AM | Reply
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Stereogum is the graphic designer's version of Arcade Fire.

Posted by: Jake at 06/30/06 12:42 PM | Reply
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Stereogum is the poor graphic designer's version of Arcade Fire.

Posted by: Philabuster at 06/30/06 12:51 PM | Reply
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i live in carmel right out of indianapolis and i have never heard of this band. thats all that needs to be said.

Posted by: beetlebum at 06/30/06 7:44 PM | Reply
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You live in Carmel and don't know of Margot? Do you just not pay attention to your local scene? I live in Atlanta and have known about them for a year or so. Huh. They're fairly well known, really. They just toured with Film School...

Posted by: Rich at 06/30/06 8:43 PM | Reply
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no i don't follow my local scene at all because its shit. i follow my old home towns scene which is nyc.

Posted by: beetlebum at 07/01/06 11:55 AM | Reply
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If the best you can do is say a band you're not familiar with is "shit" or otherwise slag them, then why the fuck are you bothering to even try to listen to anything new? Stop pretending, log off your computer and shut the hell up.

If you don't like the band, say "not my cup of tea" and move on. Hey, I like both AF and Margot - different bands, different emotional responses. Is one better than the other? I'm sure the self-important hipsters think so but all I know is what I like. That is the joy of all the music blogs - a chance to sift through the tons of music coming out and finding what you like and don't and then investigating the bands further. What I hear and don't like, I don't bother with. I certainly don't go off on them.

Posted by: Harlan at 07/03/06 4:39 PM | Reply
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That song is terrible.

Posted by: terrified at 07/03/06 6:03 PM | Reply
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i said the scene is shit which is. i live here i would know. i have since checked out the band, to say the least i am not impressed. i would rather throw on be here now by oasis than listen to another of their songs again.

Posted by: beetlebum at 07/04/06 1:58 PM | Reply
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i said the scene is shit which is. i live here i would know. i have since checked out the band, to say the least i am not impressed. i would rather throw on be here now by oasis than listen to another of their songs again.

oh and by the way clearly i am a hipster just look at all those indie bands i listen too.

http://www.last.fm/user/Beetlebumbill

Posted by: beetlebum at 07/04/06 2:00 PM | Reply
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Some of these comments are pretty dumb. He did not imply that they are better than AF, or vice versa. The statement is him saying that it is comparing apple to oranges, and the comparisons are completely unjustified, and if youve listened to their album is completely true.

Posted by: Dan at 07/05/06 2:55 AM | Reply
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Margot rules, in part because Richard's an artist. He doesn't conform to what society dictates: He doesn't give pat, PC answers to stupid questions. So what? The music's fresh and innovative, his lyrics are poetic, and the delivery's the whole package.

Posted by: Laura at 07/05/06 8:10 PM | Reply
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You should visit the site: yahoo music

Posted by: John Davi at 07/06/06 3:28 PM | Reply
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Just met a couple of those Margot... kids this week while we were on tour. They were awesome. Great people. Heavy drinkers. Lots of fun.

Posted by: Dirty Lenin at 07/07/06 4:22 PM | Reply
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These guys are the new waterboys and they make me wanna puke with their phony F**kig positive vibe.Tke pogues would blow these guys away even today.Rock'n'roll is the devil's music and the devil ain't down with this crew.The Cosmic Psychos now we're talking..

Posted by: otto fick at 05/12/08 12:40 AM | Reply
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