New Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy
Earlier this week, Page Six ran a story about Axl Rose bartering entrance to the Stereo nightclub after closing (at 5:30 AM) so he could continue his 44th birthday bash. His offer? A listening party for the COMPLETED Chinese Democracy which he'd been working on for the last nine years.
Difficult to get excited about that, since Axl once claimed the album would be out in 1998 (and every year since then) but tracks are leaking. So this is the real deal. All we needed was just a little patience [cue whistling].
After trying a handful of producers over the last decade (including Roy Thomas Baker, Bob Ezrin, Sean Beavan, and our favorite village vegan Moby) ultimately the album will be Axl-produced.
As far as we understand, this is the current band:
Buckethead was of course the most interesting thing to happen to Project Democracy in years, but he quit in early '04. [Sidenote: a man with a KFC bucket on his head will be the most interesting thing to happen to most projects; try it at the office sometime.]
Here's Stereogum's brief timeline of the Chinese Democracy saga and MP3s of some of the new tracks.
11/7/99 Two days before the release of End Of Days' soundtrack (featuring new GN'R tune "Oh My God"), Axl's manager tells LA Times a new album called Chinese Democracy will be released in 2000.You get the idea. GN'R 2006: new face, new logo, new tunes.1/10/00
Rolling Stone's David Wild hears Chinese Democracy and describes it as "Physical Graffiti remixed by Beck and Trent Reznor."
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "Catcher In The Rye," "Oklahoma [AKA "Riyadh And The Bedouins"]," "I.R.S.," "T.W.A.T. (There Was A Time)"1/1/01
Guns N' Roses 2.0 play first live show at the House Of Blues in Las Vegas. At 4 AM.
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "Chinese Democracy," "The Blues," "Silkworms," "Madagascar"8/29/02
Axl unveilves crazy new look in not-really-a-surprise performance at MTV's Video Music Awards.
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "Madagascar"11/8/02
GN'R kick off a national tour (a day late) at Tacoma Dome in Washington. The previous day's last-minute Vancouver cancellation resulted in a riot.
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "Chinese Democracy," "Madagascar," "The Blues"12/5/02
GN'R play Madison Square Garden in NYC. The band's last gig before the tour is cancelled.
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "Chinese Democracy," "Madagascar," "The Blues"8/29/03
Mike Piazza, of all people, premieres new GN'R tune on Q104.3's late-night rock show. Mets catcher says he received it in the mail weeks earlier.
NEW SONGS PLAYED: "I.R.S."1/17/06
Axl appears at a Korn party, lets people take his photo, promises 13-track Chinese Democracy this year.


Questions for the group:
1. Is anyone (including indie snobs) anticipating this album?
2. What do you think of these leaked tracks?
Guns N' Roses - "I.R.S." (MP3 Link Expired)
Guns N' Roses - "The Blues" (MP3 Link Expired)
Check the comments for updated links.
Posted at 2:30 PM in MP3
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Hmm, well they do sound a bit more like "classic" GnR than I'd expected...they just aren't very good.
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what a mess.
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For all this latter-day chronology stuff, the logo and hairstyle sure do look pretty '98.
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Other leaked songs include "T.W.A.T." and a clip of "Better". I don't think "The Blues" is actually a new leak.
The songs sound a lot better than I expected, especially since Chinese Democracy has basically been a joke for years. I actually am sort of looking forward to the album and will be buying it. Still mad about it being under the GnR name, though. They really should be called Axl Rose Band.
Here's a link to "T.W.A.T." --
http://s6.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01VMNN1764E7O0WEUSONMWXZ8S
Enjoy!
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Not bad. Not good either.
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Nevermind, apparently "The Blues" is new.
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What's with the acronyms all over the track names? I'm enjoying 'I.R.S.' quite a lot but I'm struggling to see how this is nine years' worth of work. Good, though!
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Boring. Like Velvet Revolver is. I'm a firm believer of "when it's over, it's over" though.
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I like how you've put "2012" in the Year column of the ID3 tags on these tracks.
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cool, i'm not the only one who noticed the year! =P
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Glad you noticed ;)
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Chuck Klosterman is shitting in his trousers.
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I never liked G&R in the 80's, but I am anxious to see what the response to this album will be. Needless to say, I'm not a fan of any of the new stuff either.
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That was a big pile. It's like he was sitting on these crappy songs and hoping that they'd get less crappy over time and, instead, they got crappier.
I still think "Chinese Democracy" is one of the greatest album titles ever, though.
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i think IRS is a neat track.
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just listened to the blues, it's awesome and has an inspiring touch
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i think this album will be awesome. im glad for axl rose. has a bunch of sure hits; madagascar, chinese democracy, irs, the blues
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this all sounds like fucking Maroon 5 on a shit ton of blow. what the fuck?
she will be loved, i guess.
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That recording of "The Blues" is actually the soundboard recording from the Pittsburgh show back in '02. Sounds like it's been cleaned up with a lot of the live sounds filtered out. Nonetheless, a damn good song.
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I saw GNR in Vegas in 2001-2002 New Year's Eve show and they were awesome. The myth of this whole album gives it expectations no band could handle. I wish Axl was less like Howard Hughes and would just have put this out 10 years ago. There's no way you could go in and work everyday on an album for this long. I'm wondering how much work they put in a week on this. Hopefully it will see the light of day. Madagascar is great. Chinese Democracy is great. Not so sure about TWAT. Axl does look like hell. Guess 15 years in hiding will do that to ya.
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TWAT is one of the best songs I've heard in years. And the amazing thing about this is that regardless of the line up, the sound is pure Guns N Roses. That is a pretty big accomplishement considering that the original band was so unique within itself, and given the contributions of Slash and Izzy. I saw the House of Blues show in 2001 and is mindblowing, by far the most rewarding concert experience I have ever had. I think in the end, the quality of Chinese Democracy will be hard to deny, no matter what pre determined judgements people bring to the table because of Axl's behavior or personality.
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Are these people for real?
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I'm sure with a logo like that they'll be the next Linkin Park...
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TWAT sounds darn good, me thinks. Everybody else, go listen to fucking pussies like Sufjan.
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just out of curiousity: are people ironically excited about this, or is it legitimate? (yes, i'm clueless. i'll be the first to admit it.)
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I am actually excited about new GNR material. They're the band I cut my teeth on back in the day and, cheesy as it souns, still have a special place in my heart. I have to admit I'm not displeased with some of the new stuff.
Also, does anyone have a studio version of Madagascar?
It was performed at Rock in Rio a few years back and leaked (along with some of the songs which just came out):
http://s61.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3J8X944AH22BJ3IVMBBBKTWUGV
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[checks his indie cred at the door...]
Can't speak for others, but I'm someone who's legitimately excited about finally hearing the album. Was a huge metal fan back in the day whose tastes have shifted in the intervening 15 years, but I still have a weak spot in my heart for GNR. Indie snob or not, there's no denying that Appetite for Destruction is a great, great rock album. (Well, I'm sure someone might deny it, but they'd be wrong.)
Of the four songs I've heard leaks of, I'd rate them as follows:
(1) Better -- the 1.5 minute clip makes this song sound like the second coming of GNR. An awesome tune. Kicks ass. Hope the full song holds up.
(2) IRS -- cool tune, if a tad repetitive. I'm hoping this isn't the final version floating around though -- it needs a couple of guitar overdubs to fill it out. Axl sounds great on it though.
(3) The Blues -- sounds like it could have been on Illusions. That's good in one way, but bad in the sense that it just doesn't seem to add anything new. That said, it's not a bad tune at all.
(4) T.W.A.T. -- pretty boring. Hoping it grows on me.
Oh, and I saw them do Madagascar at MSG a couple years ago, and I remember liking it a lot.
If I could figure out how to show an emoticon for devil's horns, I'd put it here. G'n'F'n'R!
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Being somoene who has never heard a full GnR song before, I thought those were okay. I did read about the whole thing with Chinese Democracy in a local paper recently, and I was, like the writers, skeptical about it coming out this year. IDK, I'm probably not going to buy the CD, but I'm certainly going to Napster some of it.
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I just forwarded these mp3s to Hu Jintao and he says "Thanks Axl, but we are going to stick with communism. Thank you for trying."
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I'll tell you one thing: there are a lot of musicians and engineers around L.A. who have made a fortune off this thing. They were paying the Pro Tools guy like twenty five G's a month. The guys in the band got six-figure salaries for years on end and mostly just hung out playing PlayStation and shooting hoops. They rented a piece of gear for two years and barely used it, and the rental ended up costing over $100,000.
The production costs for the record overall are around $15 million.
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How very sort of anticlimactic. Even though I really don't care for Guns 'N Roses (There Was A Time-- I guess he hasn't lost the touch) I am slightly curious to see what happens with the album. After all, it is the most famous still-unreleased album in rock and roll I would say. It'll probably go gold and probably do about as well as Velvet Revolver did- have a couple big singles and then sort of drift off and Axl can start picking fights with Vince Neil on VH1. Now THAT I would pay to see
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i was at the last official g'nr show at msg. pretty amazing, yeah it was a coverband, basically. but it blew the crowd away. if they ever come back, i suggest seeing them.
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When 'Chinese Democracy' is no longer a joke it will indeed be a sad day for rock and roll.
I listened to 'The Blues' and I was surprised that it did sound like classic G'n'R (I don't know if this is a good thing). I think if the record does come out, it is going to have one killer ballad, one cool rock song with killer riff and that will be about it - not good for a double record or has that changed now?
The world has turned, Axl ...
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it does sound like axl looks. not bad if you like nickelback. really, really bad if, however, you like GOOD music.
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axl is still axl, amazing rock tenor if you like his rasp... and agreed, he's pulled a total "brian wilson." But can you really blame the guy? He had to come out from under his own shadow... a tall order for anybody. He could have taken a lesson from madonna or the stones... yeah, put out a somewhat mediocre album, but then move on, reinvent yourself... the next one will be better.
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i like the tracks. but i like axl's voice and always have... appetite is classic and i only like around 1/3 of 'use your illusion', and these songs are better than that, especially 't.w.a.t.'
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I certainly hope David Wild still works at Rolling Stone magazine because I dont read it and find it laughable that he compares this to NIN,Beck, and Led Zeppelin. Who says the government isnt using the media to brain wash people?
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I'm disappointed, but it's not all bad. Personally, I think I will stick to communism.
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Having been a huge Guns n Roses fan back in the day, I find myself rooting a bit for Axl. The dude's his own worst enemy, though.
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Is it just me, or his voice actually more annoying than before?
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what i find strange though is this recordings show the same quality voice gnr had back in the days. and i remember seeing the mtv vmas 02, where they showed up and played some songs, and axl's voice seemed exhausted, plus, he couldn't make the same running around, now he got tired and had difficulty singing, because of his overweight.
on the other hand. try, just, try to be in his position. he had the best f°ing band in the world circa 1987-1994. the guy ended up alone. he could've quit music, and live a comfortable life, but no, this comes to show how much he loves music, the guy reconstructed a band which actually captures the old sound of the band, single-handed. yes, he's gotten fat and has awful dreadlocks, but hey, it's the music that concerns us (though he could go to the gym).
i admire this guy for reviving from the ashes. he might be an obnoxious as a person you could say. but not everyone has the courage to revive a band and actually coming up with good material. cheers, axl.
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this album will be a pile. the songs sound like pro tool demos of some local bands i know. his voice is lacking and the guitar is shit. stop lookin at g'n r like they are rock gods...mabye one yes but that is over. i love them too and that is why i hate this album. if thats can be understood.
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He ended up alone because he's an asshole. He should've done an Ian Brwon and just let the group dissolve and put records out under his own name. He would have had much less pressure. Carrying on with GNR name means he has to live up to a certain standard, and I don't think he can do it. The new songs are okay, but none of them is as good as old GNR.
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better then that yeah yeah yeah's song. but still silly.
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Sorry but this all sounds so dated. Its like the production is a terrible combination of 1998 and 1988. There will def. be two big hits on this album. Seeing as the major didnt have one 5 million copy selling album last year (the benchmark), LOOK for the machine to push this album up there.
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Hey - I guess you could call me an 'indie-snob' though I don't give two shits about that Animal Collective and Antony and the Johnsons crap. Or CoCo Rosie. Or Unicorns. Or Sufjan. I *am* however looking forward to hearing 'Chinese Democracy.' I don't really have high expectations though I am curious. I will def. purchase it the day of. Thanks for the info.
Do any of you have MP3s of:
_ - "Catcher In The Rye"
_ - "Oklahoma" [AKA "Riyadh And The Bedouins"]
_ - "Chinese Democracy"
_ - "The Blues"
_ - "Silkworms"
let me know - glen
GlenSColen@gmail.com
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Overall, disappointing. I saw GNR in Cleveland in 02 and they put on an excellent show, I think they played "the Blues" from what I remember. It's really disappointing to know that Axl's eccentricities have ruined a really good band. It was looking really promising with Buckethead in the lineup, but Axl blew that, too. "Use your Illusion" showed what a talented songwriter Axl was, I am afraid "Chinese Democracy" will just make him look stupid.
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Strangely enough I thought the RS guy's comment was fairly apt. I never really thought about it but Axl does kind of sound like Robert Plant if he had a really bad cold. The music sounds like bad Led Zeppelin with bad computerized production as played by second-rate Guns 'N Roses.
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well, these are certainly the shittiest songs i've heard in a while. so sad.
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Axl can't be "king"-it's a *Democracy!*
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To whomever said this will go gold...Guns N Roses are still insanely huge; how many units did that Greatest Hits album push? And that was a compilation of what, three albums and a couple of b-sides? If the album is bad, it will still push a few million, probably a good chunk of that will be in the first week. If it's good, it'll probably sell a helluva lot more. But to say it will just go gold is insane. Weezer's Green Album went platinum and they weren't a fraction as popular as GNR even during the Blue Album days; not to mention they had only been gone for 3 or 4 years. Axl's been gone for almost a decade and a half. This thing will be pretty massive, how massive however, is up for debate.
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"I.R.S." is pretty good. "The Blues", eh, not so much, sounds like a demo with a lot of double-tracked vocals. And, to answer the first question, yeah, I'm anticipating the album. How could you not be? I mean, I'm the farthest thing from an indie snob, I like lots of different music, but even if you are an indie snob, you've got to have just the tiniest bit of morbid curiosity to know what lies at the end of this decade-long saga. I just hope that the anticipation gets sated before 2012 (which is the year each MP3 file says when I played them on my iTunes...ha!)
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I have to say, while not exactly mindblowing, it still sounds better then most of the filler off of the Illusions.
It is good to hear him back in action, and he's not quite embarrassing himself. Changing the band name would have taken alot of the pressure and anticipation off of this album.
Hey...it took Geoge Lucas 3 tries to get the Star Wars feel back...maybe in a few years Axl will put more stuff out (hopefully w/ original members) and get the GnR feel back.
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\m/
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Just listened to those MP3... What a pantload.
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Wow, he managed to unintentionally out-cheese the Darkness and it only took, like, 8 years. He's some kind of genius.
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am i the only one whose mp3 feed has quit working?
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umm... i... liked... the blues...
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You got to give it to Axl. He's actually going to live up to the hype. It's going to rock.
I do hope he goes back with the old ensemble and form "Velvet Guns" or something. But he's too proud.
And doesn anybody even THINK it's the old band that's doing this? Might be the same name but I don't picture old GNR when I picture these guys.
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axl4ever. that's all. i hate the term "indie cred" and shit. fuckin pussies. go cry to death cab. phhhhhhhht
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If these sound dated, its because they are.
"The Blues" is nothing more than two soundboard quality live tracks from the 2002 tour dubbed over top of each other. Completely fan made, and only a so-so job at that. So don't be fooled...you get the gist of the song, but the "album" version will be stellar.
"IRS" is a rough demo or very early studio mix. Again, you get the gist of the song...and its pretty decent. But you can certainly expect the $15M worth of studio time these tracks have seen to really shine on the album.
"Better", whether you've heard it or not, is the highlight of all the leaks. Listen to it! This will give you a feel for what the new GNR are going to be.
"There Was A Time" is growing on me. But I'm holding out more/less to see what the studio album is going to do to this song. I feel like a lot of important qualities about this song are lost in this early mix.
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"The Blues" sounds like track 11 or 12 off of any Tuff or Bullet Boys album with left over vocal effects from Cher's "Believe".
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thanks for the leak... i will be listening and then attempt to contact AXL for a exclusive interview!
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i have an mp3 of chinese democracy from a soundboard
aim-phishguts101
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um, nothing right now is better than "that yeah yeah yeah song".
seriously
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most of you hear just have narrow dogmatic minds and can't accept the fact that axl is trying to be as successful as he can. and he was not the only one who had problems back in the old days, i know for a fact the rest of the band members were fucking assholes as well. i mean, you have to respect the guy, he is doing what he wants to do and he is not letting the dumbass press or dumbass people on the internet (all of you) bring him down. he knew he would get critisim but he still went along with his plans (for the most part). so fuck you guys, die, and rot in hell.
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^^ in your opinion
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^^at least they have one
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Fags.
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For better or worse, GnR return will be one of the things to look forward.
Judging though from what has leaked already, i imagine we couldn't have hoped for something better. Axl is a burnt out, a blast from our past, so he does just what he can.
Come on, Axl is a guy who left 50.000 people in a stadium in Athens, Greece waiting for him for about 3 hours, because he was playing mini golf back in his hotel!
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As went Izzy, so went Guns n' Roses. He was the actual talent in the band. That's why everything since "Appetite" sucked - he wrote all the good stuff. No Izzy = no GnR.
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this sounds amazing to me. can someone post the link to the song "better" though? thanks
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Poor Tommy Stinson....I hope G N'R folds so he can do a Replacements reunion with Paul.
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You ask, and you receive.. A link to a minute-ish clip of Better. Best of the songs I've heard so far.
http://www.illitpress.com/indiemusic/Guns%20N%27%20Roses%20-%20Better%20(Demo).mp3
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ummm...slow week for indie news, eh?
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ummm...slow week for indie news, eh?
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agreed...
bob stinson is rolling in his grave....
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Could you put Axls vocals lower in the mix? He couldn't sing in the 80's, and can't now.
Bah.
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Dude, I was at work, can you make the link work? I heard like 3 beats before the boss shut me down...hook me up man! Please.
An old school guns and f*ckin Roses fan.
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washed up has been... what a lame talentless pos. mabye axeman and all his gayness thought somehow in some retrospective dimension that eveyone would forget that they suck so hard. fing hardcore hippies.
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TWAT just proves that Slash and Izzy WERE GNR. Appetite is maybe the best album ever recorded. (That, or End on End or Lonesome Crowded West). Anyway, this new shit fucking blows. Fuck you, Axl. You megalomaniacal twat.
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Heavy Metal Hippies suck. Axel, I want you so hard. Peace, Love, & Deathmetal.
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if anything, i just want Smashing Pumpkins to fucking announce their tour dates cause thats the only reunion tour ive been waiting for in 2006.
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Let Aqueduct bring it into indie perspective with their song "Growing Up With G 'N R".
http://www.aqueductisgoodmusic.com/Growing%20Up%20With%20G%27N%27R.mp3
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I wasn't aware that no one is allowed to like Sufjan Stevens and Guns'n Roses, go fuck yourself. Still this isn't Guns and Roses, its just Roses, Slash and Izzy were the guns. Someone needs to shave Axl's head, why is he doing that to himself? and that seriously can't be the album cover. Most importantly these songs aren't bad at all, and are not entirely meaningless.
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when he titled this record, years ago, chinese democracy probably seemed like a great idea. now perhaps, in the same way, american democracy would be more apt.
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someone actually compared axl rose to brian wilson. what. the. fuck. and since when is it some sort of badge of honor to NOT like the indie bands that are like, you know, "indie popular?" i mean, go ahead and dislike them, it's just like, jeez, do that make you cool nowadays? i do declare!
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Can we drop the whole fucking "indie" thing? That was a movement during the 80's and 90's that got co-opted by corporations. Unless you're talking about your fucking boyfriend's band that has like 10 fans, it probably isn't independent. Wtf, at one point almost every fucking band was independent except those manufactured by corporations. Listen to some classic rock or soul or something, jesus.
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appetite for destruction and to a lesser extent lies were good sleazy dirty rock n roll. once you added the pianos and matt sorum, you got bloated crap. nothing on the use your illusion albums has dated well. this stuff seems to continue the pattern. crap
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Have you seen the short film that came out a couple years ago about Axl Rose sightings? It's a pretty funny little Super8 movie.
www.haveyouseenaxlrose.com
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here, try this:
www.haveyouseenaxlrose.com
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Poor Tommy Stinson....I hope G N'R folds so he can do a Replacements reunion with Paul.
Posted by: Chris at February 20, 2006 06:53 PM
I got a good laugh out of this comment.
I was actually working a few years back with Sean Beavan when Tommy Stinson dropped by to say hello to Sean (we weren't working on GNR, by the way). Afterwards, I heard the story of how Axl got Tommy to join this GNR redux unit... Basically, Axl deposited a rather large amount of money in Mr. Stinson's bank account, THEN he asked the bass player to join the new GNR. Needless to say, the amount deposited was of an amount one would be foolish to say no to, and Tommy Stinson is no fool.
So. please, don't worry about 'poor' Tommy Stinson. He's hardly that at all.
On another note, people seem to be forgetting that Chinese Democracy was due out a few years back, but got pushed back MORE because of a truly horrid performance by Axl (out of breath, out of tune) on the MTV Awards (oh, please, somebody offer a link to a video of that performance). And the rest of the new GNR did a good job then, but you just looked at them and wondered how these bunch of strangers were to be even remotely considered to be Guns N Roses. Axl needs to hurry up and put it out... then, when it tanks and the next Velvet Revolver album tanks, the real GNR can get back together and work on their inevitable reunion album. It's just like George Burns said... Show business is a hideous bitch goddess.
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my friend was served a cease and desist order from axl's lawyer for streaming the new record.
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Does anyone have a link or an mp3 to the studio version of The Blues? I have a live version but would LOVE to hear a studio version.
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Scenester has The Blues. I think it's the studio version, I have no volume here on my work computer, but there's no note on the site. Check it out:
http://www.scenestars.net/
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I love when people say how the next Velvet Revolver album is going to tank, that's hilarious. The next Velvet album will sell well, and so will Chinese Democracy. Velvet will sell well because a lot of people bought the first one and will blindly buy the second one. GNR will sell well because people will be curious. So, no GNR reunion for the fanboys, sorry.
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the best of Gun's and Roses is in another band.
this is just a man who wasted his head and threw away the best thing [band] he ever had and is too afraid to pick up the broken glass.
axel rosehole just about sums it up.
it's a shame to try to get on the bike again then your feet can't touch anymore and you wind up on your ass.
good luck plasticface.
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i hate to say this but, guns 'n' roses was a mere brilliant flash of symbiotic anarchy that was both brutal and beautiful while simultaneously bordering on an almost idiot savant-like genius for rocking like a 15 year old paint huffer and a bumbling comic book dork idealogy of what love is. let's all remember that guns 'n' roses had one good album. don't argue with me on this one, because you will be wrong. guns 'n' roses is a text book example of what not to do with a career in music. izzy was the smartest one of those dummies for leaving first. axl is the dumbest. they should've hired a new singer when g'n'r lies came out. i will admit that there are a few good tunes on that heaping pile of dung that i will refer to as "the illusions". wow. nice job turning into an old, boring schmaltzy rock band in two years. how credible. anyway, iggy & the stooges bowel movements are better than anything guns 'n' roses ever produced. do not buy chinese democracy. if you want to waste money give me twenty dollars and i will kick you in the balls. kids, there's good music out there. i promise
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"There Was a Time" is the only song I've heard of the leaks that sounds even REMOTELY sellable. If it wasn't for the weak chorus it would be a great song. However, the rest sound lame and dated. I would love for the "unveiling" to be a shock to everyone by being awsome, but I fear that it will be just what everyone expected it to be: disappointing.
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i agree with that dave guy. they have built up way too much hype and will never ever be able to exceed the appetite' days. but sadly, ill probably buy this new album, just incase.
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Does anyone have the uncut "better" mp3? It was out only for a couple of minutes today.
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I can not believe that some of you are defending this rancid piece of horse fececs that is "Chinese Democracy". This barely even classifies as music. Axl rose is such a big douche that he has to desimate the name of Guns and Roses by attatching it to this musical abortion. Axl may as well have farted in a microphone and called it an album. He doesn't even sing anything like he used to. I liked Axl a lot better when he went MIA for 8 years and everyone thought he was dead with a needle in his arm. I am a huge guns and roses fan, but this is in no way a guns and roses album. I only hope that all of this is smoke and mirrors and the old lineup is really back together waiting to put out a true guns album.
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Ne1 got links to the leaked songs?
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Frank the Tank, sort it out man, this is some of the best stuff i've heard for years. I your so backwards about your music that you want Axl and the guys to churn out the same stuff they did in '87 then good luck. Music moves on pal, so get used to it, that stuff still kicks but move on man!!!!!!!
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Do you honestly think that if slash, izzy, and duff were still in the band that the music would sound anything like that? There ain't no way. Not one of these new songs holds a candle to anything they did, this shouldn't be called guns and roses, it should be called "Axel Rose Wants Money" I think some of you are just so excited to hear anything, that your making yourselves believe that this new stuff isn't the most horrible thing you've ever heard. There is no reason why he sould be tarnishing Gnr's good name by doing this. Like somebody said earlier, if he would've called this project "Axl Rose Band" it would've been no big deal. The way I see it, guns and roses died in 1993, and Axl is digging it out of it's grave and making it look stupid just so he can make a coulple bucks and feel less like a failure.
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i dont know if half of you retards have ever heard a gnr song in your life but i've heard just about every single one. yet i still think this is like the stuff from the use your illusion era. better days, chinese democracy, IRS,The Blues are some of the best songs i've heard for ages.And who cares how long it takes to make the f-ing cd just as long as its some good shit.
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i like all the tracks i've herd so far i've been waiting 4 a long time & u know what i don't think u people will be disapointed it's not gonna be the old gnr but it will have hits i'm sure of that u got to think haw do u remake something that was so big & classic so F**K all u people who knock them i'll bet my soul it's a good cd thats all i gotta say
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haw do u remake something that was so big & classic?
You don't, thats how. If your going to create something new you call it something new jackass. Don't call it GNR. That would be like if people started calling shit pudding, it doesn't make it pudding.
I think it's ironic that you made your name "f**ck u fake gnr fans" considering thats exactly what this new shit is, Fake Gnr. I'm a fan of real gnr, you know with slash, izzy, duff remember those dudes? This new shit is Axl "I want money cause I'm a big douche that knows nobody would buy a solo cd from me so I have to destroy the name of one of the worlds greatest bands to be able to turn a mild profit" Rose being a cock smoke.
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Give the guy a break!! He's done wicked awesome work that has made alot of people happy. Everyone is entitled to change. It's not about loyalty or money, it's just W. Axl Rose doing his thing, and he's got to be happy with it too.
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hell of a picture of old Axl. Looks like he took a page out of Scott Peterson's book. Hope he didn't throw some chick in a river too.
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I havnt heard any of these recent leaks but I have heard some of the older performances from 2002. I think they sound great. In fact they sound so great that I have just spent £150 (about $250) on getting tickets for the Dublin concert this summer....That is the easy part, now I have to wait and see if they turn up.
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Jesus Christ,what the hell is wrong with you people??? Keep in mind,these are merely demo versions,dating back to '99/'2000,perhaps even earlier (With the exception of "Better".That one may be more recent)How can you judge something so harshly?Something that is incomplete and was never intended to be heard as such??
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It's hard for people to admit axl still has it after 15 years and the only thing most of these posters have accomplished in the past 15 years is to get a promotion to head janitor at their kids elementry school.
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Please Upload new song Guns N' Roses :p
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People hate on this shit cuz its dated..
Can you even call it leaked? We first heard of many of these tracks a while back.. If you think these tracks are anything remotely what Chinese Democracy will sound like, youre a moron.
All Im sayin, dont judge CD by a few low-quality leaked streams that came out years back that you think heard online..
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the everbest vocal i have ceen in my life.. axelroses.(my guru)..just i wanna see ur conert axel one time in my life ..
n wanna kiss ur feet
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Look all you doubters... yes axl shudnt keep the GNR name on this band as it is quite blatenetly NOT GNR. but there aint no question that this is guna b a great album... it jus might sound a bit dated but who gives a f*ck! The currentmusic scene needs some good old thrash metal to liven up all the emo stuff thats about!! (which i like also)
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What's weird is that I never heard so many songs where only a portion was good but the rest of the track sucks. I almost sounds as if Axl really tried as hard as he could to write a good song, then a minute or two into it the song always just trails into some lame ass filler material just so he can get 3 or four minutes out of it. In some tracks the filler is more at the beginning and some tracks it just sounds like it's more at the end.
I'm hardpressed to say that I totally enjoyed a complete song. "The Blues" is the clear Cut Hit here. The rest of the tracks seem like pieced together cutting room material from the 80's. The only thing that will sell this CD is if they release a kick ass song first so that everyone thinks the rest of the CD is that good! Unfortunately there are going to be lots of dissapointed people once they hear the rest of this crap.
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If you think that you can judge the quality of an album from a couple of dodgy leaks, then its like me saying that I know everything about all of you just from what you have written on this site. I dont think it is a true representation of what is happening. The way I see it is that all of this hype around Chinese democracy is free marketing for the album. GnR dont need to spend any money on it. I think that someone of Axl's experience can easily handle the hype of the album..... Remember, he was platinum when most of you were just an itch in your daddy's pants.
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I love all the shit talkers. they make me laugh cuz they are the ones i will be in ine behind a year after the album comes out going this is the shit! Fake ass GnR fan are the ones running out buying something cuz it says GnR on it and that is the sole reason they got it. This album might not be the best but it is what the man wanted. we have heard the music everyone wanted to put out and it is no better then the leaked demos we have heard. So all you fake asses go buy your suck ass free radio bull shit and listen to that. I will remember to say hi to you when you buy the album a year after it comes out.
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Jason, I am not trying to have a cheap pop here so please dont take this personally but what you wrote made me laugh.
Firstly, if you are in 'ine'? ( i am guessing line) with those 'shit talkers' then I think that makes you one too because you are in the same queue.
Secondly, if you have paid for FREE radio then I think you got ripped off pal.
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"Im not a fake ass G-N-R fan!!!" every year i have been waiting for this record("Chinese Democracy") to come out and it's always been pushed back, so maybe this year will be differnt.AXL ROSE will always rock, and his music is great, but i wish the original line up would get back together...but i don't think that's going to happen.THEN THAT WOULD TOTALLY KICK ASS!!!!-Rock On!!! gunners
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All u doubters can just shut the fuck up! This album is goin 2 b great! Chinese Democracy and TWAT r 2 of the best songs ive heard in a long time
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democracy will be a two month flash in the pan at best. all you suckers will buy it anyway. axl is a gigantic pole smoking duche nozzle.
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Wow. I can't even begin to tell the story of why I have and always will dislike Guns N' Roses. But trust me, it's pretty damn legitimate.
Anyways, I refuse to believe that whatever this new album sounds like; it will certainly not have been worth the wait. If it took me 10+ years to write an album, I figure it better either be the best damn CD ever, or it better be a catalyst for world peace. And neither of those are going to happen from this release. I don't care what the title is, or how many demos Axl's made, or if yor best friends mom has a cousin that once slept with Mr. Rose. None of that is relevant.
What is relevant, is that Axl's spent these past years laughing it up. He sees the hype, he might come up with a couple crappy riffs a day, and choke on his lover's phallus before he goes to bed. He's one of the biggest has-been's in the history of music, and even he realizes that. But he planted the seed in the media that stated he's going to make a new album oh-so-many years ago, and people are still shitting their brains out over it. Axl Rose could take a dump in a jewel case, call it "Chinese Democracy" and people would still buy it.
The album is gonna sell alright. But it won't be good. Not for as long as the wait for it has been.
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Everyone needs to relax.
These files aren't the best of quality. I'll admit that fact. But, don't judge the album when you guys haven't even listened to it yet. These songs are decent. I'm just glad we have a chance to here GnR after so much time. People that have listened to GnR in the past will enjoy the fact that axl is still writing music. I grew up listening to GnR, and it just kills me to see how people can just turn their backs so quickly because of a few songs. Ironic as this might be, as jason posted on March 3rd, all of you people that are saying that this album is crap, are actually the people that will be praising this album when the media gets a hold of it. As for the real fans, lets pray that Axl keeps on writing great music, as he has been doing so far.
'nough said...
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hello? this album will be forgotten in no time flat, and axl will still be a duche nozzle.
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uh...hello? this album will be forgotten in no time flat, and axl will still be a duche nozzle.
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does anyone have a link 4 this song
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Ok, I've listened over and over to all leaked tracks and previously played live versions and I can honestly say that they're definately worth listening to. After 3 or 4 listens, the various layers become evident and we can hear how professionally complex these recordings are and they're kick ass tunes. When we've all gotten over the fact that our original GNR heroes aren't with Axl anymore we might give these new musicians and Axl a bit of credit. Not everyone is gonna immediately like this but to deny yourself the pleasure of letting these tracks burn into your brain would be unfortunate. I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, I guarantee Axl's gonna kick ass this year. Welcome back ya motherfucker!
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GUNS N' ROSES ARE AMAZING AND WHOEVER SAYS THE OPPOSITE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT MUSIC IS AT ALL.
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"Catcher in the Rye" is fantastic!
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Holy shit holy shit holy shit. the full-length version of "Better" At 4:56 you want it to never end. Brilliant guitar solo (sounds almost like Joe Satriani. Buckethead, I guess) and a cool industrial breakdown afterward.
Absolutely face-melting.
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the worst part about democracy is no one will be able to enter a used cd store without tripping over a stack of these discs.
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The biggest insult I've read you guys say about this album is that it sounds dated....well that's because most of these tracks are live recordings from a few years back... NOT studio tracks... and honestly i would rather listen to quality GNR from a few years back than the junk people are putting out today...it's the same thing with rap if you are a rap fan....give me something from 1995-1999 ANY day over the junk they're making now!
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Please. Please. Someone post a link to "Better?"
Pretty Please?
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download better on morpheus. it is damn good. just as good as anything out the past few years. its a great song!!!
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"Crash Diet" sound like old-school GNR. It´s a pretty good song. If the album has more songs with a similar quality to this song, I think it will be very good. I´m really considering to buying it.
Also "Madagascar" has an interesting sound.
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About twat, the only version i've heard doesn't have vocals, so i was wondering where can i find this track but complete, 'cause i mean it sounds all right so i'll like to hear it with teh vocals. by the way the blues is pretty good
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Why don't you fuckers just give Axl Rose a chance and leave him alone?! AXL Rose makes Guns n Roses and will always be a rock icon! He is the best and I can't wait to hear more stuff from the new GNR line-up
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Why don't you fuckers just give Axl Rose a chance and leave him alone?! AXL Rose makes Guns n Roses and will always be a rock icon! He is the best and I can't wait to hear more stuff from the new GNR line-up
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Why don't you fuckers just give Axl Rose a chance and leave him alone?! AXL Rose makes Guns n Roses and will always be a rock icon! He is the best and I can't wait to hear more stuff from the new GNR line-up
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Why don't you fuckers just give Axl Rose a chance and leave him alone?! AXL Rose makes Guns n Roses and will always be a rock icon! He is the best and I can't wait to hear more stuff from the new GNR line-up
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This would be a good site www.axlstillsucks.com! Id even pay to be a member! I thought axl ruled in the 90s but he let me down an all of his fans! And in the dict. if you look under asshole it should say axlrose! He is a disappointment to himself his kids an to rock n roll! An in a song he says maybe the world would be better off with out you anyway he should go by his words! I thougt he was a god at one time took up for him im realy hurt he let us down
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AXL IS GREAT REALLY REALLY GREAT BUT GUNS & ROSES WHITOUT SLASH IS JUST NOTHING, IS A GOOD IDEA THE NEW BAND OF AXL BUT DON'T CALL IT "GUNS & ROSES" BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT THE GUNS AND ROSES, GNR ARE: SLASH AXL DUFF MAT IZZY JUST THEY!! AND THEY ARE THE BEST BAND EVER!!
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Coul anyone email me a link to 'catcher in the rye' please? or if you have it, then the song itself!!!!
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Coul anyone email me a link to 'catcher in the rye' please? or if you have it, then the song itself!!!!
poisonkiss@hotmail.co.uk
Thanks
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If any one can get in contact with axel rose,tell him he's a Master Mind and I loved Guns&Roses,but Chinese Democracy is good also.God Bless-Scott.
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AXEL ROSE IS GAY!!!!
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AXEL ROSE IS GAY!!!!
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AXEL ROSE IS GAY!!!! ILL GIVE AXEL A CHANCE......A CHANCE TO SUCK MY BIG ROUND DICK!!!!!!!! VINCE NEIL IS BETTER!!!!!
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Good site. Thank you.
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WHEN IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY COMING OUT
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WHEN IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY COMING OUT
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WHEN IS CHINESE DEMOCRACY COMING OUT
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I wait till it release...
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guns and roses is the best band ever.
the new abum has three or four good songs like t.w.a.t, crash diet(well crash diet is a holliwood rose's song),the blues and chinese democracy.
try to remember that izzy was the one who used to put the songs together.
guns and roses are coming to argentina in january and velvet are coming in november. i am fuckin' happy. guns and fucking roses still have the touch and still rule dudes.
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guns and roses is the best band ever.
the new abum has three or four good songs like t.w.a.t, crash diet(well crash diet is a holliwood rose's song),the blues and chinese democracy.
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try to remember that izzy was the one who used to put the songs together.
guns and roses are coming to argentina in january and velvet are coming in november. i am fuckin' happy. guns and fucking roses still have the touch and still rule dudes.
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RELEASE THE DAMN ALBUM ALREADY!!!!!!!!!
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Axle is the only true rock defining artist out there-still! He is G & R, and G & R is the closest thing to rock since zeppelin, the doors, the stones & jimi. So suck his dick bitches
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& the sex pistols
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I personaly believe that guns n roses will never be the same again (unless the original members of the band are present). There really is no possible way that any GnR fan can actually say that it is GnR. I mean look at Slash, and the rest of the members; They made it fine with their band Velvet Revolver, but they did not once call themselves GnR, why?? well because they have moved on away from GnR. Yet some of the "fans" of GnR are praying for this new CD, and yet dont care whether or not that the band is completely new except for Axl. Until Axl and Slash make their peace, Guns n Roses is dead to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I personaly believe that guns n roses will never be the same again (unless the original members of the band are present). There really is no possible way that any GnR fan can actually say that it is GnR. I mean look at Slash, and the rest of the members; They made it fine with their band Velvet Revolver, but they did not once call themselves GnR, why?? well because they have moved on away from GnR. Yet some of the "fans" of GnR are praying for this new CD, and yet dont care whether or not that the band is completely new except for Axl. Until Axl and Slash make their peace, Guns n Roses is dead to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rap has basically taken over the music industry.
So to build up the hype and make sure he gets his millions is a good business call.
If you like either the new or the old Gnr, the fact is the heyday for these bands is over, how do you compete with eminem.....This HAS to be a big album so it has to be a Huge marketing nightrain.
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travis, you're a muppet... velvet revolver are dead now because they couldn't come close to what they were with axl... and the reason they never called themselves GNR is 'cos axl owns the name.
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I myself am looking forward too axl bringing out the chinese democracy album as in the 21st July i joined and attended a Guns 'n' Roses concert at Glasgow and AXL his self sang some chinese democracy songs very wel i must say....Guns 'n' Roses are the best and always wil b....IM THE BIGGEST FAB EVER XXX
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AXL IS DUM TO BREAK UP WITH GNR I THINK THEY WOULD BE BIGGER IF THEY STAD TOGETHER AND SLASH IS THE BEST AND DUFF IS THE KING
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AXL IS DUM TO BREAK UP WITH GNR I THINK THEY WOULD BE BIGGER IF THEY STAD TOGETHER AND SLASH IS THE BEST AND DUFF IS THE KING
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I heard a rumour on bbc radio 1 that the long anticipated chinese democracy is due for relese on the 20/11/06 , but i cant find any concrete proof of the on sites upon sites that are devoted to the album on the internet. I when to see the axl project in manchester in july , and i'd say most definitly the best concert i've ever been to , but then again I would say . and to all those oppossed......well.( ha ha geeky!)
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I heard a rumour on bbc radio 1 that the long anticipated chinese democracy is due for relese on the 20/11/06 , but i cant find any concrete proof of the on sites upon sites that are devoted to the album on the internet. I when to see the axl project in manchester in july , and i'd say most definitly the best concert i've ever been to , but then again I would say . and to all those oppossed......well.( ha ha geeky!)
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I heard a rumour on bbc radio 1 that the long anticipated chinese democracy is due for relese on the 20/11/06 , but i cant find any concrete proof of the on sites upon sites that are devoted to the album on the internet. I when to see the axl project in manchester in july , and i'd say most definitly the best concert i've ever been to , but then again I would say . and to all those oppossed......well.( ha ha geeky!)
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I heard a rumour on bbc radio 1 that the long anticipated chinese democracy is due for relese on the 20/11/06 , but i cant find any concrete proof of the on sites upon sites that are devoted to the album on the internet. I when to see the axl project in manchester in july , and i'd say most definitly the best concert i've ever been to , but then again I would say . and to all those oppossed......well.( ha ha geeky!)
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i hate to say this but, guns 'n' roses was a mere brilliant flash of symbiotic anarchy that was both brutal and beautiful while simultaneously bordering on an almost idiot savant-like genius for rocking like a 15 year old paint huffer and a bumbling comic book dork idealogy of what love is. let's all remember that guns 'n' roses had one good album. don't argue with me on this one, because you will be wrong. guns 'n' roses is a text book example of what not to do with a career in music. izzy was the smartest one of those dummies for leaving first. axl is the dumbest. they should've hired a new singer when g'n'r lies came out. i will admit that there are a few good tunes on that heaping pile of dung that i will refer to as "the illusions". wow. nice job turning into an old, boring schmaltzy rock band in two years. how credible. anyway, iggy & the stooges bowel movements are better than anything guns 'n' roses ever produced. do not buy chinese democracy. if you want to waste money give me twenty dollars and i will kick you in the balls. kids, there's good music out there. i promise
Posted by: dave at February 23, 2006 12:53 AM
Had to respond to this above, even though you'll never see it. You are a moron. The Stooges were the shit, but to compare Iggy to Axl is just absurd. And kick Axl out of the band? Are you fucking gone? He is one of the best songwriters of all fucking time, and if you disagree you are stupid and wrong. When did people start thinking that Izzy was the balls of GNR. He was the fucking rythym guitarist! Axl writes almost all of the songs and lyrics and Izzy writes some. Its no secret, look it up. As much as I like Izzy, his songs are by far the weakest of all the songs by guns. And as far as bashing the Illusions, its tough to live up to improving upon appetite. The change in style is actually called progression, your just too stupid to understand that. They were not trying to recreate something they had already done before. If you honestly think the Illusions albums were bad, I'm afraid to hear what you think is good. Do yourself a favor and don't even listen to music, because you have no idea what good music is.
Ryan
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Better is fabulos!!
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Axles Haircut was way better in the old guns n roses.
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Axles Haircut was way better in the old guns n roses.
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Axls Haircut was way better in the old guns n roses.
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The new album sucks cock
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ur fucked up axl....u need help!!!!!!!!
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The deaf newlywed robbed a bank in a broken elevator for the nurse.
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The new ventriloquist repaired the bomb in the White House to find the treasure.
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i absolutely adore guns n'roses !!! can't wait until the new album's release . i've no idea if it's going to sound nice but as a pure fan i'll buy it instantly !!! ( hoping axl's voice will be better than it was 2 months ago , here in athens )
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To take counsel of one's pillow. Harman.
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I've heard a fair few tracks, I don't care what anyone says, since i was 6 years old (that's a fucking long time, i'm almost 23) i've loved GnR and particularly axl's unique voice, he may not be the most reliable person and granted now he's not as able as he used to be, but fuck it, another guns n roses record is just what the world needs. and then many fuckin' more, although it's not the same and never will replace an amazing line-up (circa 1992) at least it's something to show that the GNR name will NEVER die!
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Chinese Democracy: a tribute to an unheard album coming November 20, 2006.
FREE to Download!!!!
cornslaw.com/chinese_democracy
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Yo waz up Axl,
Why aren't you guys coming to Montréal, Canada.
Is it cuz they won't let you come back, or are you scared of being mobbed for the last time.
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i personally cant wait for this album to come out. im only 16, and ive gotten into guns n roses over the past year. ive read everything about the chinese democracy CD, and i cant wait. rumoured date is the 21st of november...ill be at a local best buy at opening time for that one.
and for the people that think axl sounds like crap now...well thats just your opinion. if u ask me, i say right now he sounds better than he ever has. in 2000-2002 he kinda fell of a little bit, but hes doing great in 2006. and i like the new look...once again 2002s look was bad for him.
even though ive already heard most of the rumoured songs, im gunna get the album when it comes out. and ive been reading all these posts and seeing everyone ask where they could find certain MP3s of songs....its called Limewire...n00bs.
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Same tribute, new location
CORNSLAW.NET/chinese_democracy
A TRIBUTE TO AN UNHEARD ALBUM!!!
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Good site!Thanks.
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Good site!Thanks.
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Well I've got here rather late and all the leaked tracks have been taken down, but personally, I don't think Chinese Democracy has a hope in hell.
Any album that has taken nine years will either be really great or painfully bad. And considering it has been scheduled for release so many times, there have been line-up changes galore, and Axl Rose is producing it himself, it's safe to say that the album will suck. Or at least won't be half as good as anything the real G'N'R produced.
If Axl Rose had made this into his own project after the end of it all, the album might work, because people's expectations would be different. They wouldn't know what was coming. However, since he didn't do that, everyone will compare it to Appetite For Destruction and then call it a piece of shit. (Which it probably will be)
Such a shame. When will Axl accept that it's OVER?
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Well I've got here rather late and all the leaked tracks have been taken down, but personally, I don't think Chinese Democracy has a hope in hell.
Any album that has taken nine years will either be really great or painfully bad. And considering it has been scheduled for release so many times, there have been line-up changes galore, and Axl Rose is producing it himself, it's safe to say that the album will suck. Or at least won't be half as good as anything the real G'N'R produced.
If Axl Rose had made this into his own project after the end of it all, the album might work, because people's expectations would be different. They wouldn't know what was coming. However, since he didn't do that, everyone will compare it to Appetite For Destruction and then call it a piece of shit. (Which it probably will be)
Such a shame. When will Axl accept that it's OVER?
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GNR RuleZ!
Axl RuleZ!
Gangsta! Gangsta! COTR 4 Life!
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GNR RuleZ!
Axl RuleZ!
Gangsta! Gangsta! COTR 4 Life!
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man. thank all of you for the laughs. fuckin funny shit. especially comments out of nowhere like "THE NEW ALBUM IS GONNA SUCK COCK". that shit is funny. anyway. axl has PERSONALLY said march 07 and says he never personally gave a release date. i never heard any of the leaks and am glad i havent. like to wait and hear it as he intends it to be heard. saw them in NYC not long ago and I must say I was pretty blown away. had about 10th row center and dude was like a maniac. eyes all buggin' (in a good way). Beside me was the group of younguns...early 20s I guess. they were fuckin diggin' it. girls were all tonguing each other. wow. anyway. i love VR and GNR and STP. Sure I wont be let down. Gotta a feeling if this thing does well that we are going to be hearing Chinese Democracy II, III, and IV in rapid succession--since he pretty much already has enough material recorded. I wanna see AXL join VR. I think that would be cool and fuck it throw in the Audioslave guys too.
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i think that the new guns n' roses aren't that great i think the only way that axl is going to be good again is if he gets back together with slash and duff and do some kind of reunion tour or somethin' that would be awsome ..... but lets not hold our breath
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I think that it's all sooo incredably corny . Axl would be soo much better off getting back together with slash and Duff to do some kind of a reunion tour cause that shit would sell ........ but I don't think thats going to happen anytime soon .
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man. thank all of you for the laughs. fuckin funny shit. especially comments out of nowhere like "THE NEW ALBUM IS GONNA SUCK COCK". that shit is funny. anyway. axl has PERSONALLY said march 07 and says he never personally gave a release date. i never heard any of the leaks and am glad i havent. like to wait and hear it as he intends it to be heard. saw them in NYC not long ago and I must say I was pretty blown away. had about 10th row center and dude was like a maniac. eyes all buggin' (in a good way). Beside me was the group of younguns...early 20s I guess. they were fuckin diggin' it. girls were all tonguing each other. wow. anyway. i love VR and GNR and STP. Sure I wont be let down. Gotta a feeling if this thing does well that we are going to be hearing Chinese Democracy II, III, and IV in rapid succession--since he pretty much already has enough material recorded. I wanna see AXL join VR. I think that would be cool and fuck it throw in the Audioslave guys too.
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I got a bootleg a couple weeks ago of chinese democracy, its got 10 tracks: Better, I.R.S., T.W.A.T, catcher in the rye, oh my god, silk worms, the blues, madagascar, and rhiad and the bedouins. theyre all awesome, but im just a tad dissapointed. i guess i was expecting alot after 15 years, but its still very good. however its borderline emo, its very dark and serious, as opposed to previous albums, but once again its still great
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hey guys love you axel got a tattoo on my back side luve luv you pei canada
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Gn'r is up there at the top of greatest bands, along with ac/dc, led zep + pink floyd.
Il buy the damn album just for the fact that it isnt a hip hop/rap/pop song that sounds identical to every other one out at the moment, no matter how bad it is.... it can't be as bad as 50 cent.
In the end its all about the music, for example i hate oasis with a vengeance but i concede that one or two of their songs are alright.
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to be honest all the chinese democracy stuff i have heard is a load of shit totally crap no point in buying the album if it ever is released
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The internet sucks. Cell phones Suck. Guns Suck because they have a website. You suck cause you bought into this geek-made reality.
I WISH THERE WAS NO INTERNET AND NO CELL PHONES. OUR CARS TODAY SUCK TOO. AMERICAN CULTURE HAS GONE IN THE TOILET.
FUCK YOU ALL
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Ok, I think I'm developing issues or problems. I hate to admit it but I think this Album rocks....feeling the old Guns N Roses feaver.
I'm reading reviews and scribbles about this album being 5 years late...? wtf? Ok, thats stupid, but good then, because if it came out 5 years ago, I was still in my gorgasm and deeds of flesh metal phase and I wouldnt have liked it as much. Ok OUT. GNR's ARE BACK! well kinda hopefully
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the leaks kick ass... Guns N' Roses is back... i like Better most... what a powerful rock song to hit the charts and wipe the floor with it... can't wait for Axl to release this album :)
btw.. is this the official site of them? http://www.newgnr.com
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no, that's the page of some 19year old bloke...
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WHEN IS THE NEW ALBUM COMING OUT?
im anticipating it SO BAD!!!
we already have like 22 that i know of who are going to buy it the DAY it comes out!!
let us know?
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In my opinion the song that will get into the top 10 will be "Better".
My advice to Axl is get that song out NOW!
It kicks some serious butt!!
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I love Axl. I wanna Axl gonna come Jakarta Indonesia oneday. Help me to meet Axl...........
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I really love the new leaks, has anyone heard the new leak of 'Chinese Democracy'? I think it's spectacular.
I am highly anticipating the album and I think this music is well worth the wait for such an amazing masterpeice!
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I am hearing October 2007 for a release date. I think its going to be huge.
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I love the new songs, the studio version of chinese democracy,TWAT,blues,IRS and madagascar are gr8.The album is going to be the best thing to happen to music in years.
And some people said illusions were shit...r u fucking insane. Have u heard any of the songs on those albums?Estranged and coma r just epic, november rain,civil war,dont damn me,dont cry(both versions) are close to being epic 2. and there are many aggresive songs like shotgun blues,dead horse and the perfect perfect crime
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can anyone tell me how to get the video gun & roses chinese democracy or even all the songs. thanks
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The songs kick! Axl is amazing! I’ve been waiting since 1998+ when I got the first set of leaks. The new ones (same song) quality is better. Only do right and true GNR fans will give back by buying the album. These people leaving negative remarks are here for spite, only. I’ve seen people say, they’re just going to steal the songs they like when it comes out. Some are out of spite, in lieu of Axl, being the only original member. Axl didn't leave GNR the others did. Quit being selfish, because you want to live their life. You’re all losers and should be kicked in the head. Intelligent people don't compare unpolished music to other songs done by the band and say they suck, without hearing the finished product. It's commonsense. You don’t listen to a song one time and love it. Your brain catches on to it, and you know what I mean, even if you are an idiot or you have brain damage. And to say the music sucks Elizabeth Goodman, shows how intelligent you are. Only a *#^! would make a statement like that.
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lol I got my message board confused. That was suppose to go somewhere else. It was late at night and I was reading a lot of boards. I must of bookmarked this one by mistake. The next day I just came here and pressed end key. I thought I might had post it on the wrong page a few days later. Oh well, I found the correct one today. They removed my last few lines heh
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Well...I am a huge fan of the new GN'R...but the waiting gets to you. I spy.....
I just wish people would stop making unfounded claims, such as:
"The album sucks!" Really? You've got the whole thing? If you don't want it there's 50,000,000,000 GN'R fans who would.
"Axl's voice has gone to shit." Youtube>Rock Am Ring> Any song off the set. And before you reference the 2002 VMA's, everyone has a shit day, alright?
[Listens to 1 leaked song] "12 years for THIS?"
Or, "This can't be X year's worth of work."
Look, it's pretty obvoius he didn't spend all that time making one song, get a grip.
"All this time...no album..." Get a life, and live it. They're not the only band on the planet, y'know? There are others out there?
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P.S. Libertard came out...did you notice? So utterly boring compared to Contraband.
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The new band can play I saw them live and they kicked ass. Don't punish them anybody in there right mind would join gnr. I love these new songs great lyrics from Mr.Rose much better then anything on Velvet Revolvers liberturd and can hang in some aspects with contraband. I will say it's to late for the masterpiece that Axl is seaking with this album but it will still be a huge deal and a great album. I don't want to see anymore Chinese Democracy tours without the album. The masterpeice will be the orignal band back together with a album then the biggest tour ever. That will happen no matter what. Gotta somehow pay for the most expensive album ever made.
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I just wish Axl would lose the braids!! I absolutely hate them! I have listened to GNR since day 1. I have continued to listen to them through all the bandmate changes. They sounded great then and they sound great now. And if people would stop and think about it......just how many years was the original band together? Axl has spent just as many years with Duff and Slash as he has Robin and some of these other guys. And what about Dizzy? Dizzy has been with him forever. Now if Dizzy were to leave......I would say there could be some problems replacing him! I'm so tired of people whining about the new lineup. Get over it. Axl's voice is what makes GNR!! If Joe Elliot was to leave Def Leppard I don't think Def Leppard would be the same!! So what if it had been Axl to leave the band, do you think they could have replaced him and get as close of a match with a singer as he has with guitars and drums?
Still pissed the Nashville, TN show was cancelled this past year :o(
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The new songs suck compared to their old stuff. You bunch a fags desperately want something to happen for Axl but he's no fucking good without the original line up. He doesn't even deserve to use the name Guns N Roses. If you think Axl's voice is the one element of success that the original band had, you have a very shallow appreciation for their music. Elvis is dead and Guns N Roses no longer exist that's just the way it is.
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I've heard 8 or so tracks off Chinese Democracy and it really is a class above Libertad. I think that he needs to lose a few bits of a few songs that take them from brilliant to what-might-have-been. Very good stuff though - he just needs to get the 'kin thing out! From not really caring too much about this I now really, really want to hear the lot. I hope Axl does not make the same mistake as Illusion & fail to cut crap songs.
And to those people coming on here and being negative about good rock n' roll - no bother, you ain't in the club anyhow. Bye.
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Yeah, I was wanting to go to the Nashville concert and I live in N E Alabama was so upset and hurt that it did not happen.
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Good luck!!!
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guns n roses are the best band ever and always will be and axl rose is still the best singer ever
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listen here, all you GNR haters. they are the best fucking band out there ok. axl is the best singer and theres nothing you can do about it. its his hair let him do what he wishes. Besides i think it looks nice. his voice is awesome. Hes awesome im a huge GNR fan and I see the great In him and if anybody dosent then why the fuck are you on this website.
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