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December 19, 2006

Pitchfork's Top Albums Of The Year

Most of you probably figured Pitchfork's Top Albums list would feature some combination of Joanna Newsom, The Hold Steady, and TV On The Radio in the top three slots (at least based on their nine-point-whatever scores). Well most of you are wrong! But, aside from a hindsight bump-up to the #1, the Forkers were mostly true to their initial assessment on the year's records. Mostly.

50. Booka Shade - Movements
49. Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra Of Bubbles
48. The Long Blondes - Someone To Drive You Home
47. Matmos - The Rose Has Teeth In The Mouth Of A Beast
46. M. Ward - Post-War
45. Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out Of This Country
44. The Pipettes - We Are The Pipettes
43. Sonic YouthRather Ripped
42. Mastodon - Blood Mountain
41. The Decemberists - The Crane Wife
40. Tapes 'N Tapes - The Loon
39. Fujiya & Miyagi - Transparent Things
38. J Dilla - Donuts
37. DJ Drama & Lil Wayne - Dedication 2
36. Brightblack Morning Light - Brightblack Morning Light
35. Herbert - Scale
34. Girl Talk - Night Ripper
33. Mission Of Burma - The Obliterati
32. Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
31. Danielson - Ships
30. Belle And Sebastian - The Life Pursuit
29. Lily Allen - Alright, Still
28. Cat Power - The Greatest
27. Califone - Roots & Crowns
26. Hot Chip - The Warning
25. Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds
24. Peter Bjorn And John - Writer's Block
23. Yo La Tengo - I Am Not Afraid Of You And I Will Beat Your Ass
22. LCD Soundsystem - 45:33
21. Be Your Own Pet - Be Your Own Pet
20. Man Man - Six Demon Bag
19. T.I. - King
18. Destroyer - Destroyer's Rubies
17. The Thermals - The Body, The Blood, The Machine
16. Beach House - Beach House
15. Sunset Rubdown - Shut Up I Am Dreaming
14. Tim Hecker - Harmony In Ultraviolet
13. Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That
12. Band Of Horses - Everything All The Time
11. Junior Boys - So This Is Goodbye
10. Scott Walker - The Drift
09. Boris - Pink
08. Grizzly Bear - Yellow House
07. Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury
06. Liars - Drum's Not Dead -
05. The Hold Steady - Boys And Girls In America
04. Ghostface Killah - Fishscale
03. Joanna Newsom - Ys
02. TV On The Radio - Return To Cookie Mountain
01. The Knife - Silent Shout
Now the slackers among you have a handy to-do list for your next torrent-trading session! Get out there and work that bandwith.

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Of course, Ben Kweller didn't release an album in 06.

Wait...

Posted by: Britunes at 12/19/06 9:52 AM  | Reply
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Artists that Pitchfork seemed to fall out of love with over the course of the year:

Islands
Neko Case

I was wonderfully surprised by Pitchfork's #1. An inspired choice, even if it's not my personal top album (that would be Sunset Rubdown).

Posted by: McNutt at 12/19/06 9:53 AM  | Reply
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Predictable and safe, but a good list nonetheless. None of the top ten are undeserving of that honor; although I personally can't stand listening to Drum's Not Dead, I realize it had a significant impact on the year in music.

Posted by: C.A. at 12/19/06 9:54 AM  | Reply
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overall i think it's actually a great, very accurate list. 2006 was a great year for music and this list reflects it well... it's not pretentious as p-fork tends to get, and listing Silent Shout as number 1, might be the most spot-on they have ever been. it truly is a perfect, groundbreaking album and i'm so happy to see it getting the recognition it deserves.

Posted by: jp at 12/19/06 9:56 AM  | Reply
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The Crane Wife is WAY too low on the list. should be at least in the top 15.

Posted by: 3 Red Squares at 12/19/06 9:56 AM  | Reply
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The list is fine, although I'm befuddled and disappointed that Neko is nowhere to be found and that "Rubies" is only at 18. I'm cool with The Knife at #1; wouldn't have been my pick, but they justify it well. What burns my ass, however, is The Holdy Steady at #5. This is more than a case of sour grapes, this record just isn't any good. And it's funny, I read the reviews and synopses of all the albums on the list and they all make sense or are pretty convincing and then I read the blurb for "Boys and Girls in America" and I think that all powers of critical thinking have vanished from Chicago. Intentional or not, the music is banal. And the lyrics, regardless of whether Finn is or is not romanticizing the beer-soaked ennui of our youth, lack any sort of consequence or gravity; much like his beloved--and equally immature--novel "On the Road." I "get" the record and can accept it for what it is, but then to hear all these platitudes and high rankings makes me lose some faith in Pitchfork. Okay, that's enough Sitek for one morning.

Posted by: Josh at 12/19/06 10:02 AM  | Reply
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I, too, am a bit surprised about no Neko Case. I love that album with all of my chubby little heart.

I'll never understand the appeal of that Scott Walker album. Boooooo-urns.

The other surprise for me is Phoenix in the top 20. Don't get me wrong, it's a fun album...but seriously?

Posted by: Kyle at 12/19/06 10:06 AM  | Reply
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Yes the crane wife is WAY too low. Pitchfork's pathetic love em and leave em routine is getting so predictable you could sync it up to my roomate's schedule of judgementless 'liberated' rut-rutting.

Posted by: dannygutters at 12/19/06 10:06 AM  | Reply
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thank f'ing god they didn't put The Crane Wife in the top 20. the decemberists are pansies.

top 10 picks were pretty solid (even though i don't like the Hold Steady that much, it's definitely a good album...just ain't my thing). i would have put sunset rubdown in the top 10 though. It's good to see Liars, Scott Walker, and The Knife get their dues.

Posted by: John at 12/19/06 10:15 AM  | Reply
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Shocked, SHOCKED by number 1. I was really hoping to avoid that album this year.

Good point on the falling out of favor for Neko and the Islands. Those are both among my fifteen favorite albums of the year.

It's a really good list and does what the best Pitchfork list do best: validate some of my opinions, challenge others and gives me a list of albums that I need to go hunt down.

I would have paid ten bucks to Ryan Scheiber to have Ghostface get number 1.

Posted by: carson at 12/19/06 10:17 AM  | Reply
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Either Pitchfork or you guys have #14, the Tim Hecker album, reversed in terms of artist / album title.

Posted by: Ben at 12/19/06 10:21 AM  | Reply
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I guess I just don't quite get how they came up with Silent Shout as the best album of the year. Maybe my eyes are deceiving me but I think at least half of their writers did not even include the album on their top 25 lists. Very few actually put it in their top 5. So how does it become the best of the year?

Posted by: will at 12/19/06 10:31 AM  | Reply
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man man at 29 owns.

but im not suprised that the islands record isn't on here. it's a subpar album that hits really well upon first listen, but gets worse and worse with repeat listenings.

and also.. destroyer at 18? didn't that get like, a 9.1 or something?

Posted by: nick at 12/19/06 10:39 AM  | Reply
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What's the deal with the Knife? I gave that record a few listens but I heard nothing groundbreaking at all. The melodies are third rate and the overall aesthetic has been done countless times. Are they better seen than heard?

Posted by: Chuck at 12/19/06 10:41 AM  | Reply
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Will, your eyes are deceiving you. It is everywhere, including near the top, of the individual lists. Look again. It was clear from looking at the individual lists that it would come down to the Knife and Cookie Mountain.

Posted by: npopp at 12/19/06 10:48 AM  | Reply
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i'm happy to see fujiya & miyaji on there just above the decemberists and tapes and tapes.

seeing the knife at number one isn't surprising, cause they like wear masks and are like swedish and stuff.

Posted by: aj at 12/19/06 11:03 AM  | Reply
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theres not a record there that i can stand until #21. everything higher is over-pretentious indie.

Posted by: annie onymous at 12/19/06 11:03 AM  | Reply
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oh annie! having trouble with all the over -pretentiousness in teh world, Be Your Own Pet must wash it all away for you


haha

Posted by: oh annie at 12/19/06 11:10 AM  | Reply
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Justin Timberlake? Every time I've heard his name this year, it's made me more and more depressed that he is still making hit records, and now here he is in the top 25 of a supposed indie rock website. God, the people who write for Pitchfork must be even bigger pussies than I thought.

Posted by: Flem at 12/19/06 11:14 AM  | Reply
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Justin Timberlake beats the Decemberists? Can't be

Posted by: Julie at 12/19/06 11:28 AM  | Reply
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newsflash. the decemberists aren't that good.

second newsflash: people have different taste, some people even like radio pop.

Posted by: newsflash at 12/19/06 11:33 AM  | Reply
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If this list says anything about the state of music in '06.. then I'm clearly out of touch with the indie elite over at Pitchfork (and everywhere else for that matter..).

Let us discuss the top 5:

5. The Hold Steady - Hasn't anyone figured out that they sound like some second rate bar band from New Jersey?! Anyone.. anyone? Completely flaccid and uninvolving. How much did Vagrant pay out to Pitchfork, The Onion, et. al to get such recognition for such drivel?

4. Ghostface Killah - I don't listen to rap (unless it's Kool Keith) so I can't really comment. Probably better than the top 3 left though..

3. Joanna Newsom - Now, this is one one that tickles me. Knock, knock Joanna - you can't sing! Stay away from it. Not only that.. but your "music" doesn't even provide an interesting counterpoint to your horrible voice. Anyone can set up some string arrangements and blast poetic narratives that run 10+ minutes over them. Does that make it any good? - well no. It's just really annoying. The only reason all the indie snobs even like her is because they want to get into her pants.

2. TV On The Radio - What can say? I live IN Williamsburg and still can't get these guys. By the way.. the guy(s) can't sing (noticing a pattern here?..). I mean.. I guess the music is *ok* and all but nothing really revolutionary. But when they sing.. it just drives me up the wall. The arrangments are clumsy at times and there's no emotional core to the proceedings at all. It's just there and floats until you feel the rise of vomit emitting from your stomach.

1. The Knife - HAHAHAHA! This is what an abandoned Vince Clarke solo, avant-garde, throw-away album would sound like. I mean.. I love the retro new-new wave as much as the next guy.. but seriously what does this all mean? I can only imagine that this group elicits coma-inducing sleep live. I haven't seen a picture of this group but I'll put down 1 million that the chick is super-hot (see Newsom, Joanna). Third rate beats tossed out by the Human League twenty years ago is now P-fork's "Album of The Year". Oh!.. and the chick can't sing.

Posted by: austin at 12/19/06 11:40 AM  | Reply
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Aside from the Neko Case and Xiu Xiu snubs, this is probably the best year-end list PFork has put out in a while. I'm actually sort of impressed.

Posted by: V at 12/19/06 11:42 AM  | Reply
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The Decemberists are where they belong as far as I'm concerned, only because of "The Perfect Crime #2" is one of the worst songs I heard this year.

"It was the perfect, the perfect, the perfect, the perfect, the perfect....", okay, we get it.

Also, Destroyer should have been in the Top 10.

Posted by: David at 12/19/06 11:43 AM  | Reply
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Mastodon: the metal band that Pitchfork allows its indie army to like.

Posted by: Paul O at 12/19/06 11:43 AM  | Reply
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yeah, I like to like music outside of the realm of "hype" and "machine" and "keeping up with the cool kids." this is an absolute shit list-- roughly 30% of the top ten deserve such a rating. the rest? just cool kids picks. generally forgettable pap that won't make it past the end of Jan. 2007 if they've made it this far at all.

i know. i must not be complex enough to understand complex bullshit music. here's hoping this indie thing dies down soon and the cool kids can move on to their next flavor of the week so the rest can go enjoying music irregardless of them like we've always done.

Posted by: Blah at 12/19/06 11:50 AM  | Reply
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I'm pretty sure The Knife at #1 validates my intuition that Pitchfork has jumped the shark.

It's not exactly predictable, but it's not really surprising either- which basically sums up that Web site lately.

And yeah, The Clipse album...totally derserving. Seriously....seriously.

Posted by: Jay at 12/19/06 11:52 AM  | Reply
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The Hold Steady hate on here is amusing (but then I find the occasional Decemberists, TV on the Radio, Sufjan, etc. hate on here amusing, too - maybe some of you hang out with too many hipster superfans or something). If you don't get why Boys and Girls in America is a great rock album, then you probably don't get why Born to Run, London Calling, Tim, or Sticky Fingers are, either. Creating something amazing does not always require reinventing the wheel - sometimes it means taking what you've got and just making one that rolls really fucking well.

Posted by: d at 12/19/06 11:58 AM  | Reply
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ISLANDS IS THE BEST ALBUM FOR HEADPHONES THIS YEAR IT SUFFERS IN THE STEREO BUT STIIL COMEONE ITS SHOULD BE THRE , THERES BARLEY ANY PITCFORK WE LOVE CANADA THIS YEAR SPENCER KRUG AND JUNIOR BOYS ARE VERY LONELY

Posted by: MATHEW at 12/19/06 12:06 PM  | Reply
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ISLANDS IS THE BEST ALBUM FOR HEADPHONES THIS YEAR IT SUFFERS IN THE STEREO BUT STIIL COMEONE ITS SHOULD BE THRE , THERES BARLEY ANY PITCFORK WE LOVE CANADA THIS YEAR SPENCER KRUG AND JUNIOR BOYS ARE VERY LONELY

Posted by: mathew form canada at 12/19/06 12:07 PM  | Reply
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LOUD NOISES!

Posted by: Justin at 12/19/06 12:11 PM  | Reply
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you can put the hold steady on at a party with people who don't know the first thing about "indie music" and they have a great time. It was by the far the "funnest" record of the year, and it finally gave the non-cardingan-wearing-living-outside-of-williamsburg set something to enjoy when drinking a few beers.
"he likes the warm feeling but he's tired of the dehydration " - line of the year ...

Posted by: joe at 12/19/06 12:19 PM  | Reply
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austin's response is hilarious. weiiiiirdo.

Posted by: ben at 12/19/06 12:19 PM  | Reply
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i'm not a Decemberists fan but i understand why people like them. But i'm on board with the "wtf" side of the Hold Steady. I just cant picture people listening to them years from now, as far as I'm concerned they're the Hootie and the Blowfish of underground rock music.

Posted by: Goon at 12/19/06 12:20 PM  | Reply
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The Neko Case thing discredits the whole list. And honestly, since no one else is saying it, The Strokes should be on all these lists...at least in the top 50 people, come on.

Why is Justin Timberlake included...is it me or does he stick out like an immature, dorky, white kid...wait...he doesn't, weird.

Oh yea, D, don't compare the Hold Steady's album to Born to Run or Sticky Fingers...and what's Tim?

Posted by: J at 12/19/06 12:21 PM  | Reply
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where's final fantasy?

Posted by: Seth at 12/19/06 12:21 PM  | Reply
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jesus, Neko fans are insane. She didn't make the list. DEAL. Just because your beloved alt country crooner didn't make the pitchfork year end list doesn't make the list any more or less valid.

So insane

Posted by: jesus at 12/19/06 12:27 PM  | Reply
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D, it's not that we don't like "Boys and Girls In America" because it's not "revolutionary", but because it's musically uninspired. The albums you mentioned (Born To Run, London Calling, Tim, and Sticky Fingers) are great because the melodies on a lot of the songs are classic. The melodies on "Boys and Girls In America" just don't measure up.

Posted by: Chuck at 12/19/06 12:31 PM  | Reply
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Third newsflash: Of course some people like radio pop; it's the most popular music on the planet.
Fourth newsflash: If you didn't notice this like ten years ago, Justin Timberlake sucks. Did Pitchfork just recently discover cocaine or something? They seem to be going through some "we're trying to be ultra-egalitarian" phase, as if liking this kind of bullshit makes them young, fun-loving, and not snobby. Really, though, since not even the freshman sorority girls at my college like this shit any more, Pitchfork looks old and pathetic.

Posted by: Flem at 12/19/06 12:34 PM  | Reply
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okay question what are your favrite albums in the headphones this year mine are
1. Islands(it has the youth quality of the Jesus and Mary Chains Psychocandy)i saw them live im bias
2. Tv on the radio(just insanity right?so good)
3. Band of Horses (it made my winter)
4. Danielson( that albums needs to be controlled with headphones)
5.Peter Bjorn and John(with headphones you realy apriciate the shoegazing)

Posted by: mathew form canada at 12/19/06 12:38 PM  | Reply
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hold steady really is great. It's rock and roll, something that most of the latest indie generation doesn't really understand. Pop, sure, but rock? nah. IF sonic youth and neutral milk are our stones and boss, then we're gonna miss something about this. The hold steady are the new 'faces', which is a huge compliment.

suprised about the knife. Not really anything else.
I really do wish, however, that an album that I wasn't familiar with made it into the top 10. I know this shit! bah. It's like knowing your christmas presents before christmas.

Having that said, they missed these:

Bonnie "Prince" Billy - The Letting Go
Bob Dylan - Modern Times
Tom Waits - Orphans
Annuals - Be He Me
My Morning Jacket - Live
Calexico
The Roots - Game Theory
Beirut - G.O.
among others....

Oh, and JT deserves to be on the list. If you are to pretentious to see good music when it is good, then you are really missing out. If you're too good for the artist himself, credit Timbaland, who is the main reason it IS good in the first place.

Posted by: Bill Mullally at 12/19/06 12:39 PM  | Reply
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another album i guess they fell out of love with - Subtle - For Hero: For Fool

Posted by: Goon at 12/19/06 12:40 PM  | Reply
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stereogum thinks it's so cool because it waited to publish the gummy award results until AFTER pfork posted its top albums. way to make the hipsters wait, gum. indie rock hotties, wahoo.

Posted by: yoma at 12/19/06 12:41 PM  | Reply
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yay the knife at number 1!!

Posted by: claire at 12/19/06 12:45 PM  | Reply
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Fascists!

Posted by: Boone at 12/19/06 12:48 PM  | Reply
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First, why is M. Ward so low? I say top 10 at least. Second, where's Secret Machines and Final Fantasy?

Posted by: Kev at 12/19/06 12:49 PM  | Reply
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Figurines should've been on this and any other list. It's a magnficent record!

Posted by: S. Hove at 12/19/06 12:53 PM  | Reply
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And what about Danielson's Ships?
I was certain it would go far higher on their list, not only because it deserves to, but also since it did get one of the highest grades year-round.
Guess its a classic case of "either you love it or you hate it", that ends up with a mediocre ranking when averaged.

Posted by: Tikka at 12/19/06 1:00 PM  | Reply
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i was semi-hoping they'd reverse their mixed opinion of BITTER TEA, which remains in my top five, by the time this list was released. alas. and i like FOX CONFESSOR enough for myself *and* pitchfork, so i'm not too upset about that, either.

pretty good in general -- this list is one of the few i've seen that achieves a true democracy between indie rock and Other Stuff, and it's equally nice that they don't spend half of each capsule asserting their diversity of taste. my biggest complaint is that YS is too low. 8)

as far as timberlake goes, I'm convinced "my love" would be one of the year's most popular songs around here if it were released by an underground Scandinavian act (it's just too bad about "sexyback".)

Posted by: mike at 12/19/06 1:05 PM  | Reply
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uhhh, where the fuck is Panic! At The Disco, Fall Out Boy, and My Chemcal Romance!?!? They should be the top three albums!

Posted by: Elmer Hedberg at 12/19/06 1:05 PM  | Reply
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kev, the new secret machines was mostly awful.

Posted by: carson at 12/19/06 1:07 PM  | Reply
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I think I only own like 5 of the top 20 albums. I am so not indie.

Posted by: Stephen at 12/19/06 1:10 PM  | Reply
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And what about Danielson's Ships?
I was certain it would go far higher on their list, not only because it deserves to, but also since it did get one of the highest grades year-round.
Guess its a classic case of "either you love it or you hate it", that ends up with a mediocre ranking when averaged.

Posted by: Tikka at 12/19/06 1:13 PM  | Reply
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the knife is the most inane bullshit i've ever suffered.

Posted by: dallas at 12/19/06 1:13 PM  | Reply
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Here are some others not mentioned yet that are worthy of inclusion:

Scritti Politti - White Bread Black Beer
Loney, Dear - Sologne
Lambchop - Damaged
Espers - II
Thom Yorke - The Eraser

Posted by: drake at 12/19/06 1:21 PM  | Reply
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They sure did blow a lot of wind up Greg's (Girl Talk) skirt to throw him all the way down at 34.

Posted by: Alicia at 12/19/06 1:22 PM  | Reply
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yep. list is standard safe-ground predictable. for all the e-jizz, what happened to Beirut?

Posted by: e at 12/19/06 1:27 PM  | Reply
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This year kind of sucked for music, huh? I more or less agree with Pitchfork, which is kind of depressing, because I don't even love any of the top albums of this year. Like? Yes. Hell, I've listened to so much Ghostface this year people have stopped calling me a pretentious indie asshole and started calling me a wigger, but whatever, my point is... Um.. Let's hope 2007 doesn't suck quite as hard. Deal?

Posted by: matt at 12/19/06 1:28 PM  | Reply
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I can't figure this out!!???! Rolling Stone has Dylan at #1 and Red Hot Chili Pepers at #2... while P4ork has the Knife and TV and Radio?

So which is it? Which list is right!!??!!!

Posted by: Jojoba at 12/19/06 1:28 PM  | Reply
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yep. list is standard safe-ground predictable. for all the e-jizz, what happened to Beirut?

Posted by: e at 12/19/06 1:28 PM  | Reply
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was it just me or was tapes n tapes released in 2005???

Posted by: tj at 12/19/06 1:30 PM  | Reply
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I totally agree, Annie, 'cause Clipse and Ghostface Killah are so damn indie it makes me want to puke, what with their mopish haircuts and guitar-drenched sound. Two words: Pre. Tentious.

I love Joanna Newsom, but think Ys is an over-rated album. I hope her career survives the hype.

Posted by: nathan at 12/19/06 1:30 PM  | Reply
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oh give it up islands boy. without alden, nick is just another unmemorable popster. Oh, and "rough gem" has some of the most annoying lyrics ever.

Posted by: dylan at 12/19/06 1:31 PM  | Reply
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That's what they do Alicia.

They only really "like" music when it's in their best interest to do so.

Posted by: Jay at 12/19/06 1:31 PM  | Reply
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was it just me or was tapes n tapes released in 2005???

Posted by: tj at 12/19/06 1:33 PM  | Reply
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I would rather have someone slowly rip off my fingernails than have to listen to Scott Walker.

Posted by: rosemary at 12/19/06 1:38 PM  | Reply
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Yo, i'm sorry but how did Kingdom Come not make the top ten. That is obviously the best album of the year, with Mission of Burma a close second. TVOTR wishes they were rappers. The Hold Steady are worse then AC/DC. Joanna Newsom needs a drummer and people to tell her that 15 minute songs about animals sung in a voice that sounds like an asphyxiated meerkat being raped is not how you are supposed to make music. Oh yeah and what about Nas?

Posted by: Furman P. Slothra at 12/19/06 1:39 PM  | Reply
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yea, I think Tapes n Tapes was released in fall (winter perhaps?) 05. What about Sound Team? I won't even go there with Fox Confessor. I hate the Knife. HATE THEM. they make me want to stab someone. and Joanna Newsom, god if anyone was overrated.

Posted by: liz at 12/19/06 1:39 PM  | Reply
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Pitchfork hates a few things:

1. Albums that make them feel like they're being looked down on by the more respectable, better-educated, generally smarter NPR crowd.

2. Albums that would be popular even without Pitchfork support.

3. Hip hop that doesn't match their conception of authenticity.

That, I think, explains most of their picks, snubs, and underrankings. Destroyer, the Decemberists, and Neko Case make them feel looked-down-on. The Hold Steady and Liars make them think that assholes who spend all their time getting drunk listening to dance-punk are the real smart ones. The Knife owes them for U.S. success, and Clipse owe them for hipster success. And every rap album that isn't 90% about coke is like way fake!

Posted by: aeroman at 12/19/06 1:40 PM  | Reply
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I can't entirely respect any list of 50, that does not include Bitter Tea... or Orphans for that matter. what the fuck. also, Fab Four Suture was pretty awesome... I love Pitchfork, but this list sucks.

Posted by: vreen at 12/19/06 1:41 PM  | Reply
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I'd rank these higher: M. Ward, Camera Obscura.

Missing: Beirut. Witch.

No Gnarls Barkley on the list is also kinda surprising.

Posted by: tk. at 12/19/06 1:44 PM  | Reply
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if tapes n tapes was released in 2005 you would have stopped hearing about those bores by now.

Posted by: dannygutters at 12/19/06 1:45 PM  | Reply
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clearly missing from the list -

tom waits - top 20, easily

bob dylan - it's not the #1 album of the year like rolling stone says, but it deserves at least to be in the top 30 of this pitchfork list

neko case - great album, the best of her career, easy top 30-40 on here

xiu xiu - solid album, deserves top 50 placement

... and more commentary forthcoming!

Posted by: z at 12/19/06 1:48 PM  | Reply
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Oh no they didn't put The Knife at no 1? And no El Perro del Mar?!...Shit...

Posted by: Tyronne at 12/19/06 1:50 PM  | Reply
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Maybe you have to see the hold steady live...

Posted by: Bill at 12/19/06 1:52 PM  | Reply
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Major snubs IMHO:
Fiery Furnaces
Graham Coxon
Howe Gelb (possibly best album of the year)
The Walkmen
The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
oh, and I lurve Asobi Seksu

Posted by: Faz at 12/19/06 1:58 PM  | Reply
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Hey EVERYONE! Lighten the fuck up! Here's how I use pitchfork: If I already like a band, I'll listen to them regardless of what rating pitchfork gives it. If I find a certain review interesting I'll listen to it and depending on my tastes, I'll buy it (I just found out I don't like Sunset Rubdown, sorta like the Knife, and really want the Liars' album). Let pitchfork like what they like. Who cares if a band you like isn't on the list. It's not your list! It's theirs, and they can put on it whoever they please. So if your fave band is on the list, appreciate your band's placement and move on.

Posted by: Eric at 12/19/06 1:59 PM  | Reply
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"Oh yea, D, don't compare the Hold Steady's album to Born to Run or Sticky Fingers...and what's Tim?"

That last question reveals a LOT.

Posted by: d at 12/19/06 2:05 PM  | Reply
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I love how posts that critisize a certain band on the list are followed up by insults that the band or pitchfork staff are pussies,pansies, etc.. Since when did indie rock kids become jackass jocks from 90's highschool?

Posted by: crc at 12/19/06 2:09 PM  | Reply
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dear matthew. please calm down and proofread. you will sound more credible and less like a spanish child screaming for his mother after being abandoned behind the melon booth at a dirty farmer's market.

Posted by: matty ice at 12/19/06 2:15 PM  | Reply
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What a shit list. I'm not saying there's not some good stuff on there, but they're being ridiculously neglectful. Thanks for reminding me why I want to beat my head against a brick wall everytime I read Pitchfork.

Posted by: Matthew at 12/19/06 2:15 PM  | Reply
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This is what really stands out for me - the too high, too low, and just right albums on the P'Fork list that i feel like mentioning -

TOO HIGH ON P'FORK LIST...
• Joanna Newsom - good ambitious album, but it doesn't deserve #3 this year (although i expected it higher) - i'd put it in the top 20 or so
• Liars - this album tried to be everything that Scott Walker did better, and it deserves to be somewhere in the top 50, but #6 is just ridiculous
• Band of Horses - a boring blog-hyped rehash of Mercury Rev/Flaming Lips/My Morning Jacket styled rock music - wistful, achy, and full of reverb - but it's an imitator nonetheless, and should be MUCH lower here
• Man Man - a boring Tom Waits rehash for hipsters who cannot appreciate the real thing, and speaking of Waits, where the fuck is he on the list?? this would be 10x better if Man Man swapped spots with Orphans, the latter taking the place entirely of the former :O :O !!!
• Cat Power - it's alright, but too weak an album for top 30 placement... maybe deserves 40-50
• TAPES N TAPES - jesus christ, fuck off already, bloggers - P'fork did well to exclude Beirut, Midlake, Cold War Kids, Birdmonster, Sound Team, etc. but really fucked up with this one :(

TOO LOW ON P'FORK LIST...
• Junior Boys - it's a top 10 album, guys, come on!
• Belle and Sebastian - the best album of their career, EASILY, and deserves to be in the top 20 this year, it's a perfect pop record
• Yo La Tengo - awesome album, could be higher possibly - but i guess it's alright where it is... maybe.
• Mission of Burma - i was surprised this made the list at all, but it's in my top ten and deserves better here.

THE GLARING OMISSIONS...
• Tom Waits - like i said earlier... top 20 release this year, no question
• Bob Dylan - a shadow of his former albums, but it's a top 30 album on this list, sorry Dylan hating hipsters! :)
• Neko Case - the best album of her career deserves to be top 30-40 here
• Xiu Xiu - a solid album, should be in the 50 at least..!
• Loose Fur - leagues better than the first album in '03, and another top 50 omission
• Beth Orton - a beautiful album that is getting snubbed by the lists this year, and a good top 50 record overlooked

P'FORK PLACEMENT JUST RIGHT...
• The Knife - this was a deadringer for #1 after i saw their placement on p'fork's top 100 songs list - two songs in the top 20, plus the #2 song of the year (behind timberlake) - so it was predictably the top album this year, but was correct nonetheless
• Scott Walker - great album! and i'm really glad to see this sneak into the top 10, right where it should be
• Tim Hecker - i was really surprised this made it to #14, but that's fucking awesome - perfect placement for a great record, thanks p'fork!
• The Thermals - glad this made it up there, it's an excellent album :)
• Califone - great placement, love the record
• Sonic Youth - solid album, not their best, but it's still a great Sonic Youth album and hardly disappointing - and it deserves its spot here.

Posted by: z at 12/19/06 2:25 PM  | Reply
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man... you people need to just write your own damn lists and post them on your myspace or something. then, when you have as much influence as pitchfork does, the next generation can bitch that their indie darlings are missing. (rinse, wash, repeat)

i think that this is a fantastic list, but is it equal to mine? no. However, The Knife definitely deserves number 1 (on my list). so, rock the fuck on, pitchfork.

Posted by: jp at 12/19/06 2:26 PM  | Reply
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aeroman's comment was right fucking on.

I also agree that Subtle was overlooked for sure. The things this list did right:

26. Hot Chip - The Warning
20. Man Man - Six Demon Bag
13. Phoenix - It's Never Been Like That

Every one of these placements was a very pleasant surprise for me. Also guys, make sure Questlove doesn't visit pfork today, he might stop making music and/or commit suicide at this point.

Posted by: Nadim at 12/19/06 2:41 PM  | Reply
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The fact that the Knife is so polarizing is a true statement of their genius. If everyone thought it was just okay, kind of ho-hum or mostly whatever, then they may as well be Moby.

A strong reaction towards the positive or negative is always the best testament to an artist's ability.

Face it, 2006 has been a rough year for guitar bands, because guitar bands (Asobi Seksu notwithstanding) are getting increasingly boring. Guitar rock inventiveness was pushed as far as it could go, IMHO, by MBV, Slowdive, Seefeel and Medicine back in the nineties. Buy some boutique pedals, a second amp to get it bouncing all around in stereo, and a bag of killer pot and get back to me, Hold Steady. You make me feel like I'm being talked down to.

Furthermore, the average indierockers just can't wrap their heads around electronic music. If they don't see a drummer and a bass player up there on stage, they can't help but cry "fraud!" Admit that you don't get it, and I'll send you a list of recommendations to get you up to speed. The first two are free: "Radioactivity" by Kraftwerk and "Metamatic" by John Foxx.

The Knife are not always a far cry from some of their euro-techno and electro-pop influences, but their inventive synthesis of these influences and the ruminative uniqueness of their content make them the stand out this year.

If "Silent Shout" had not been so insular and personal and more bullshit hipster toungue-in-cheek "ironic" it would have travelled a great deal further with the "we like mainstream hip-hop as a function of our white upper-class guilt" set. Meaning: the average indie idiot would be eating it up like so much 50 Cent. Isn't dance music supposed to fun and empty and isn't guitar music supposed to be sincere and serious? I say start mixing up some standard issue perceptions, my brothers and sisters.

Lastly, of course, there is no accounting for taste, as they say.

Posted by: Wesley at 12/19/06 2:43 PM  | Reply
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you need more than uniqueness to be considered the best.

i put bacon bits when i cook fried rice; doesn't mean the food network's gonna grant me a cooking show.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 2:57 PM  | Reply
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you need more than uniqueness to be considered the best.

i put bacon bits when i cook fried rice; doesn't mean the food network's gonna grant me a cooking show.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 2:58 PM  | Reply
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i have decided to proofread b4 i post frommmm now4 ont my apolog$ies

but yea seriously i no what your saying about aldens talents but nick diamonds will soon get the recognition with Islands next record , return to the see is so perfect until Volcanos is over then it get boring good songs but boring, i also think that many ppl missed out on how great Return to the sea was as you cannot pick out the elaberate art pop on intial listen which is why headphones realy change the scope of that record but seriously Nick Diamonds new Jeff Magnum yes i certainely agree with that

ohyea i will never give it up as ISLANDS ARE FORVER

Posted by: mathew islands boy at 12/19/06 2:59 PM  | Reply
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There are so many great albums. It is too difficult to list them, but here are the Top 10 of 2006 from the Indie Rock Cafe:

http://www.indierockcafe.com/2006/12/poll-top-10-indie-albums-of-2006-winner.html

IRC also has a Top 20 Countdown each week highlighting great indie rock and pop from today and yesterday, including free MP3 indie downloads every week:

http://www.indierockcafe.com/2006/11/weekly-play-best-of-indie-music-series.html

Check it out and become a contributor. We're always looking for writers, reviewers and concert photographers.

Happy Holidays!

- IRC

Posted by: indierockcafe at 12/19/06 3:00 PM  | Reply
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is it safe to assume that the people here offended by futuresex/lovesounds' appearance/placement in the list never actually listened to the album?

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 3:03 PM  | Reply
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i found herbert's "scale" to be far too low, but maybe that's just me. such a great album.

Posted by: kevin at 12/19/06 3:04 PM  | Reply
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There are so many great albums. It is too difficult to list them, but here are the Top 10 of 2006 from the Indie Rock Cafe:

http://www.indierockcafe.com/2006/12/poll-top-10-indie-albums-of-2006-winner.html

IRC also has a Top 20 Countdown each week highlighting great indie rock and pop from today and yesterday, including free MP3 indie downloads every week:

http://www.indierockcafe.com/2006/11/weekly-play-best-of-indie-music-series.html

Check it out and become a contributor. We're always looking for writers, reviewers and concert photographers.

Happy Holidays!

- IRC

Posted by: indierockcafe at 12/19/06 3:05 PM  | Reply
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Silent Shout definitely deserves to be number 1. I dare say it will be an album looked on as a classic statement of this decade's music, right along with Kid A and Discovery.

Also, bands who are still ripping of Built to Spill need to go the fuck away (Tapes n' Tapes, Band of Horses). The latest BTS isn't just terrific but it still blows those two albums away. Too much taste-making zeal and not enough reverence.

Also, why does Pitchfork continually refuse to acknowledge Stereolab, one of the most innovative bands of the last 20 years.

Otherwise I think this list is pretty spot on.

Posted by: MikeyK at 12/19/06 3:05 PM  | Reply
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the statement that "nick diamonds [is the] new Jeff Mangum" makes me want to puke.

Posted by: liz at 12/19/06 3:08 PM  | Reply
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Jesus christ!!! Decemberists at 41!!!!! The Knife at 1!! i havent listened to that album i admit but i heard that one we share our mothers health and its good but not as good as anything on tv on the radios album. where the hell are the fiery furnaces or islands.

Posted by: sean at 12/19/06 3:10 PM  | Reply
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this list is entertaing and very acurate but it is funny how the actual ratings that albums get dont play in at all, i am very intrested in how reviews get aproved to be posted or if they are at all , but yea there was a comment before on how if you like a band dont bother reading the review so trueee, pitchfork should be used for music that you dont no , not music that you do no. and what i am talking about ratings notimportant in this list the knife 8.6 1) 2006 and i love the hold steady album but 9.4 was just asking for backlash i think they were afraid that there would be no YHF or Funeral this year which there wasnt but still a great year.

Posted by: mathew corrado at 12/19/06 3:14 PM  | Reply
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why is that guy yelling at me about where the decemberists and the knife placed?

Posted by: Jesus Christ at 12/19/06 3:19 PM  | Reply
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the nick diamonds is the new jeff magnum coment was not serious please hold your puke

nick diamonds has more of a Sigmund Freud significance to our society okay now begin puking
islands are forever (or until they break p which will be in 5 4 3 2 probaly a year)

Posted by: mathew at 12/19/06 3:21 PM  | Reply
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"Is it safe to assume that the people here offended by futuresex/lovesounds' appearance/placement in the list never actually listened to the album?"

Unfortunately I have heard at least part of that album, and if you think that kind of shit is cool, then I don't know what to tell you (unless you happen to be a fourteen-year-old girl, in which case I guess it's okay). This is just like a few years ago during the "dance punk" trend, when Pitchfork all of sudden starting praising Kylie Minogue, and all the music that they were hyping for that year or two disappeared and has never been heard from again. Next they'll probably be talking about how American Idol is actually a really cool show with good music on it.
Any adult male who actually listens to this shit should be forced to do so in front of his older brothers, father, grandfathers, and uncles, at which time they will (hopefully) pulverize him with their bare hands.

Posted by: Flem at 12/19/06 3:23 PM  | Reply
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not liking Justin Timberlake has a lot to do with image more than anything else.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 3:30 PM  | Reply
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kylie = dance punk? me = bewildered.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 3:33 PM  | Reply
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kylie = dance punk?

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 3:34 PM  | Reply
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Do people actually listen to Scott Walker and Joanna Newsom? This is not to discount them as interesting artists, but do people seriously LISTEN to this, like as music? Like in your car? Or with strangers in earshot? I just don't buy it.

Posted by: Chris at 12/19/06 3:40 PM  | Reply
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Kylie Minogue is dance music, and during the dance punk trend, listening to dance music somehow became the hipster thing to do, so, by extension, Pitchfork began praising Kylie Minogue.

Not liking Timberlake = image?
What image would that be? The image of not being a TRL-watching moron?

Posted by: Flem at 12/19/06 3:45 PM  | Reply
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I'm actually amazed that Pitchfork would put Justin Timberlake on this list-not because he doesn't deserve it(I haven't heard it), but because they are way too cool for school. Also, why are they always so obsessed with T.I. He's just an average, boring rapper like everything else on the radio. I seriously doubt his album is better than Jay-Z's. Also, I haven't heard most of what's on this list, but I know there are several albums from this year that are better than that Tapes n Tapes album- Strokes, Raconteurs, Killers, John Mayer, Thom Yorke, etc. When did PFork get too cool for Thom Yorke?

Posted by: seinfeld at 12/19/06 3:45 PM  | Reply
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Kylie = disappeared (???)

ummm... first of all, she has been dealing with cancer. second of all, the US is not the only place in the world where people listen to music. she's huge in other countries. but... wait. she's a pop star. my bad, i forgot that the cool kids don't listen to pop. although, apparently the cool kids aren't listening to Tapes 'n Tapes anymore. damn. i'm just so behind. a year ago you were all ready to lick their ball sweat.

but i digress. Futuresex/Lovesounds is a damn good album. just because it veers from the indie (read: narrow-minded) way of thinking does not mean that it should be excluded from any lists. Timbaland (and rightfully JT himself) did an amazing job with this one, just as Stuart Price did for Madonna the year before. When Timbaland's work with M.I.A. comes out, is she going to be considered a sell-out? get over yourselves people. good music comes in all shapes and sizes. open up your minds a little, don't worry about what the bloke at the cash wrap is going to think when you walk up there with something from the pop section. chances are, he owns the JT album as well. just absorb all the good music that is available. if you really don't like it, then for the love of god, make your own damn list and put it up for others to see how effing cool you are.

Posted by: you make me like charity at 12/19/06 3:58 PM  | Reply
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When your number one album of the year is something that sounds like an album Moby put out in the 80's, music has gotten boring as hell.

Three of the absolutely most hyped and reported on artists by pitchfork, Thome Yorke, Beck, and The Flaming Lips, werent hardly ANYWHERE to be found on any of the lists! Over hype may ruin an album for you, but I guarantee you at least a couple songs on albums like "crazy itch radio" or "at war with the mystics" are FAR more interesting and exciting as anything in Pitchfork's dull and boring top ten lists.

I mean, I like introspective and moody concept albums as much as the next guy, but C'MON! I hate how nobody in this ring of music knows any music exists that isnt reported on by pitchfork or reviewed at metacritic.

Posted by: Alan at 12/19/06 3:59 PM  | Reply
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the image of not being perceived as a TRL-watching moron? god forbid, if i get caught announcing that i like timberlake, i might as well abandon all affinity i have for tv on the radio and joanna newsom.

i was told by my grandma that they danced back in the 50's. i was at the club last weekend and i saw people dancing there too. that dance punk trend must've been both enduring and ahead of its time.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 4:01 PM  | Reply
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I miss Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins. Great album. I know p-fork didn't love it the first time around, though. So maybe that's why it didn't get in here.

Posted by: Chris at 12/19/06 4:03 PM  | Reply
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"not liking Justin Timberlake has a lot to do with image more than anything else."

I think JT is a funny guy who has singing talent and some decent songs, but he tries way too damn hard to appear authentic, and in the end his shit sounds way too forced and unnatural. i think at some stage he will loosen up and just be himself, but for now i'd say he's the one with the image problem.

Posted by: Goon at 12/19/06 4:11 PM  | Reply
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Are the kids done fighting about Justin Timberlake?

Posted by: Chris at 12/19/06 4:15 PM  | Reply
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The highest irony regarding future sounds is that Timberlake's "new sound" is the same sound Basement Jaxx have been doing for years, yet their new album is nowhere to be found on pitchfork's list.

Posted by: alan at 12/19/06 4:15 PM  | Reply
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Frankly I'm very pleased and just slightly surprised that The Knife were number one. I'm a huge fan. I was pretty certain anyway that TVOTR would be high up...I didn't like the album much, personally, but I can see why so many people are in hysterics about it. Just a matter of taste is all.

I think the Hold Steady are severely overrated though...I agree with the Hootie & the Blowfish of indie rock comparison that was made. It's boring and unengaging and maybe a lot of people like it but that does not make it anything special.

Posted by: alexis at 12/19/06 4:16 PM  | Reply
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maybe because Crazy Itch Radio didn't reach the "new sound" achieved by Rooty or Kish Kash

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 4:22 PM  | Reply
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Oh, wow, I was pretty shocked at #1. I've never even LISTENED to the Knife. Obviously, I should...

I was very happy as to the placement of Boys and Girls in America. I really dislike the Hold Steady, but it's better than it getting #1. Anyway, Hold Steady bashing is getting old. Let's move forward: so, who the hell likes those Thermal bastards, really? And I hate those BYOP independent motherfuckers.

My personal top ten:

1. Return to Cookie Mountain [TV On The Radio]
2. Ys [Joanna Newsom]
3. Ships [Danielson](I was very disappointed in its placement, I admit.)
4. Writer's Block [Peter Bjorn and John]
5. Destroyer's Rubies [Destroyer]
6. The Life Pursuit [Belle & Sebastian]
7. FutureSex/LoveSounds [Justin Timberlake] (Jesus, at least you can dance to it. And ITA as to "My Love" being #1.)
8. Return to the Sea [Islands] (no idea why it isn't there--they're no Neutral Milk Hotel, but "Swans (Life After Death)" is one of my favorite songs of the year.)
9. Yellow House [Grizzly Bear]
10. Anti-Anti [Snowden](another one that should be there)

Honorary Mentions: Cat Power, The Decemberists, The Pipettes, Camera Obscura, Sunset Rubdown, Junior Boys, Yo La Tengo.

Posted by: Jaime at 12/19/06 4:22 PM  | Reply
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I honestly wouldn't recommend a single album that came out this year to anyone. Most artists have completely forgotten what it means to write a solid melody, instead reveling in how dense and "innovative" they can make their arrangements. What's interesting is that while they may appear to be "innovative" artists for doing the latter, they innovate in the most superficial dimension of music and we (as a community) fall for it hook, line, and sinker. We really should demand more out of songwriters. Where's our generation's Beatles?

Posted by: Chuck at 12/19/06 4:25 PM  | Reply
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in response to alan's commment about the jaxx; it wasn't in the list cause it was mediocre at best. don't get me wrong, i love the basement jaxx. their show at webster hall last october was one of the highlights of my year, but really? crazy itch radio? i bought it, listened once, and have kind of since forgotten about it.

Posted by: romeo at 12/19/06 4:28 PM  | Reply
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I was excited for music the last couple years, but have been in a new music rut for the last while. This year in music seemed to be pretty topheavy to me, and there really wasnt anything that exciting. When your top three albums are a harp player, a bloc party channeling ripoff (which isnt that good to begin with), and a dull (yes, dull) "electronica" album, I dont know how people could say there were lots of good music coming out. Most everything I enjoyed this year were from artists I already love.

Posted by: alan at 12/19/06 4:29 PM  | Reply
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"most artists have completely forgotten what it means to write a solid melody, instead reveling in how dense and 'innovative' they can make their arrangements."

i half agree.
except that junior boys, asobi seksu and islands all have extremely fetching melodies

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 4:35 PM  | Reply
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To be honest, I didn't find this list as objectionable as ones in years past. I've disliked Pitchfork since they published "Journey to the Center of Kid A," a feature story comparing Kid A to Joyce's "Finnegans Wake." Then, a few years later, they selected INTERPOL as their #1 record of the year. Gross. So...grain of salt?

That said, I'm glad my favorite records of the year (Destroyer, M. Ward, Yo La Tengo) made it on there. Nick Cave's score for the film "The Proposition" would have been a nice addition.

Posted by: Susannah at 12/19/06 4:44 PM  | Reply
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Alan, I maybe be mistaken, (and I pray that I am) but did you just refer to TV On The Radio as 'a bloc party channeling ripoff'??

Posted by: 3 Red Squares at 12/19/06 4:48 PM  | Reply
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Alan, I may be mistaken, (and I pray that I am) but did you just refer to TV On The Radio as 'a bloc party channeling ripoff'??

Posted by: 3 Red Squares at 12/19/06 4:48 PM  | Reply
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Yeah, it's all about image. I can't count the number of times I've gotten laid strictly because of the fact that I don't like Justin Timberlake.
Let's put this in perspective a little bit, people. I've probably met about 12 people in my entire life who would know who half the bands on this list are, so let's not pretend that any normal person thinks we're cool because we're into this kind of music.
And to the idiot talking about Madonna and "blokes at the cash wrap" [sic]: What the fuck are you talking about? Seriously.

Posted by: Flem at 12/19/06 4:58 PM  | Reply
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though, most of these self-congratulating indignants probably think they're "cooler" or, at least, have "better" music taste because they've turned their back completely on radio.

let's not pretend that we want our music tastes glorified by the normal person. what we really want is to completely deviate from their music choices. that starts by cursing pitchfork for actually LIKING timberlake.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 5:16 PM  | Reply
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We didn't listen!!

Posted by: Kurt at 12/19/06 5:17 PM  | Reply
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I don't really think TV on the Radio is channeling Bloc Party....and btw Bloc Party is good to begin with.

Posted by: seinfeld at 12/19/06 5:19 PM  | Reply
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the original image/timberlake comment was claiming that JT's image is repelling potential listeners; that if you are refusing to engage with that record simply because of who made it, your listening habits are therefore being dicatated by a reaction to image, same as those who are attracted to the LP solely/primarily because of who made it.

Now, you might not like the actual music on it, of course, but that's a different matter.

Posted by: bringing reading comprehension back at 12/19/06 5:19 PM  | Reply
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I'm pretty sure TV on the Radio wasn't channeling Bloc Party...and btw Bloc Party is good to begin with.

Posted by: seinfeld at 12/19/06 5:21 PM  | Reply
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no, the original image/timberlake comment was claiming that people care way too much about their indie identity by hating futuresex/lovesounds without actually listening to the album.

i should know, i said it.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 5:25 PM  | Reply
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This message board is my source for unintentional comedy.

Seriously, I know it's fun to talk about lists (especially P4K's which is usually the most interesting), but I didn't realize people still had some indie holier-than-thou attitude about non-indie music(rap, pop, unpretentious rock). It's shocking actully, how stubborn literally 80% of the people posting here are.


Oh, and to whoever mentioned the Flaming Lips and Beck: those albums were marginal at best. I know we liked their old albums, but let's not let that sway our opinion of the new, not very good stuff.

Posted by: carson at 12/19/06 5:28 PM  | Reply
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Carson, it's not shocking to me at all that people still have that indier-than-thou attitude-I see it all the time. I'm actually shocked at how many people are willing to stand up and defend Timberlake or hate on PFork.

Posted by: seinfeld at 12/19/06 5:37 PM  | Reply
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he's the king of pop, yo

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 5:39 PM  | Reply
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I think the main point of these year-end lists is for people to talk about them, not to be canonized as some kind of "absolute truth." If you disagree, you disagree. My fav album of the year didn't make the list and I don't understand the attraction of The Knife at all. Whatevers. I don't look to Pfork for peronal validation; I look to it for a distraction during a boring work day. It provided me with that. And so have you guys. Cheers!

Posted by: EAM at 12/19/06 5:57 PM  | Reply
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Alright...I did bitch a lot about Timberlake's single on the other stereogum blog post, but I don't hate Pitchfork or anything.

I did just listen to the title track to the Knife's album, and that was really wretched.
So really, if the first track on the "album of the year" is complete bullshit, I can hardly justify its inclusion in the top ten. On the other hand, I didn't really care for the Rapture, either, so what do I know?

I honestly think that the whole point of Pitchfork embracing Timberlake and radio pop is partly a way to legitimize the indie music scene...like, "Look at us! We are mixing mainstream rap and pop music up with this indie stuff. Hey Mainstream Press, hey mainstream kids, Look! It's all the same, it's music, whether there is a Sony or a Matador or a Kill Rock Stars logo on the back of the record."
I think they honestly want the worlds of pop, r&b, rock, electronic, and whatever else there is to collide in some way.
It seems as if in the 60s, there was less obsession about genre. The Who, I believe, referred to themselves as Maximum R&B, but the idea of R&B has been severely bastardized at this point. I imagine that it would have been pretty easy to play a Beatles record against a Motown record against a Stones record against a Dylan record. Now, everything is specialized, and style reigns over substance.
Anyway, I think that the intentions are great. I just think that a lot of pop music isn't good enough to justify these attempts at synthesis. And fuck, I can guarantee that Nelly Furtado's record trumps Timberlake's, though I only base this on the singles I've heard. I think it's safe to assume that Timberlake didn't save his best songs to be heard only after buying the album.

As for 2007, that Deerhoof album is going to be fucking tough to beat.

Posted by: dane at 12/19/06 6:28 PM  | Reply
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this was a great year for music but there werent any obvious choices for the top spots or at least number one which makes the knife understandable , its funny though how pitchfork gave the hold steady and joanna newson both 9.4 i love both of those records but i think they were afraid that there was no hudge album this year and they tried to make those albums hudge i.e Funeral YHF, illinoise, Turn on the bright lights etc but man dose 2007 look good for the mainstream underground bands that are popular well sorta? but yea a new Wilco record a new Shins record a new Bloc Party record a new Bright Eyes record a new Arcade Fire record hmmmmm it seems to me like 2007 has better potential unless all of those albums disapoint ohyea and a new clap your hands say yea will pitchfork turn on there freinds?

Posted by: mathew corrado at 12/19/06 6:29 PM  | Reply
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how can you compare albums by singles? that's like comparing cars by tires.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 6:32 PM  | Reply
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and this whole "pitchfork is pretentious by pretending they're NOT pretentious" argument is riduculous.

not that i completely agree with the way pitchfork ranked their apples and oranges this year (or any year, for that matter) but look at their track record:

2005: (2) Amerie - 1 Thing
2004: (2) Jay-Z - 99 Problems; (3) Britney - Toxic
2003: (1) Outkast - Hey Ya; (2) Beyonce - Crazy In Love; (3) JT - Cry Me A River

this "embracing radio pop to legitimize the indie scene" ain't a new thing they're trying this year. maybe, MAYBE, pitchfork actually look at all these music, indie or not, and actually judge them on their own merit. a possibility, right?

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/19/06 6:44 PM  | Reply
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Man, there's a little too much bitching going on in this thread.

It's Pitchfork everybody, they've been doing this shit to us for years. We love em, we hate em - they're still stupidly important in deciding what we listen to.

Or maybe I'm so jolly because I actually agree with the top spots and snubs.

I mean, I agree to like a 45% ratio.

Which, accounting for the usual overrated boring crap + overrated hip hop for cred points + crap I've never found anywhere or cared to download.

Is pretty freaking awesome.

The Knife record is consistantly awesome. I've been jamming since March. Only longer than, well TVOTR. Fantastic!

Islands was cool for like 2 weeks, then I didn't listen to it at all.

Posted by: carlos at 12/19/06 7:04 PM  | Reply
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I like the top ten. Can't say I've been a huge fan of Boris, but I was pleased to see all my favorites in there. Was surprised and happy to see grizzly Bear sneaking in the top ten, and a little sad Band of Horses didn't make it, but all in all a great list!

Posted by: happy gilmore at 12/19/06 7:09 PM  | Reply
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Perhaps some of you need a lesson in how lists such as P4K's is determined. They just take everyone's individual list, weight those positions (and perhaps weight the person's list depending on how much they contribute or how intregal to the site they are) and voila! Instant Top 50 list.

People take these lists so damn personally. I'm not defending P4K, but I am defending lists from dumb people who seem to believe all lists should reflect their particular taste. I can guarantee my Top 10 would vastly differ from many of you, but I'm not going to call yours crap or think mine is inferior.

It's not about being indie or cooler than indie in Top 10, 25, and 50 lists for sites such as P4K--it's just a chart with numbers showing what their set of writers like.

Posted by: Justin at 12/19/06 7:26 PM  | Reply
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the decmeberists were placed far to high. every time i attempt to approach the though of enjoying this band something turns me off. first it was voice, but i came to accept it. After that, it was actually seeing them live. I've heard completely contradictary reports (though these were given to me by truer bluer fans of their) that their shows are great. The one I went to I fell asleep during. This has only happened twice in a long history of concert-going. Pretty big strike. The band seemed, not just bored, but entirely disengaged from the fact that they were playing a show. Even my girlfriend at the time, one of the truer and bluer, claimed it ruined the band for her. Finally I accepted them as purely a studio band in my eyes, that helped until "The Crane Wife," which also makes me sleepy. I've tried and tried, but just can't make it work. Lyricism for the sake of lyricism, second rate pogues rip-offs, and an overly annoying fixation on yesteryear does not a good band make. Music is for excitment. This excitment can exist quietly or barrel through your ears like a ton of bricks from a catapault, why suffer the weak stuff just because they sound smart?

Posted by: stafford at 12/19/06 7:26 PM  | Reply
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http://www.stereogum.com/archives/002172.html

everyone equally as appalled last year. people still think their list is the end all be all of lists


can't wait for next year's discussion!

Posted by: lastyear at 12/19/06 8:13 PM  | Reply
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sign me up as someone who doesn't get t.v. on the radio (terrible name btw), or pitchfork's support of t.i. (or lupe fiasco for that matter).

Posted by: kyle at 12/19/06 8:34 PM  | Reply
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i hate all things

Posted by: nick at 12/19/06 8:34 PM  | Reply
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Why no love for We're from Barcelona?

Posted by: Paul at 12/19/06 9:08 PM  | Reply
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i think it's funny how rough trade had the knife at #97 and beirut at #1 on their year end list and p-fork had the knife at #1 and beirut at ?????..........also how did thom yorke or css not make the list? i'm also surprised to see p-fork turn a deaf ear to sufjan's christmas songs box set? not to say that it deserved it, but i thought sufjan and pitchfork were buddy-buddies.

Posted by: adam at 12/19/06 9:52 PM  | Reply
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oh this list was hilariously bad.
2006, to me, was a year of chronically overhyped, been-there-done-that albums. except tv on the radio. and destroyer. and beirut. and bonnie prince billy. so wtf.
pitchfork totally puts the clipse and other coked up hiphop in there because they think it'll give them street cred and makes them feel superior to all their white, shrinking violet, wanna-be-hipster readers who still think listening to arcade fire is cool.

Posted by: stephanie. at 12/19/06 10:07 PM  | Reply
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oh this list was hilariously bad.
2006, to me, was a year of chronically overhyped, been-there-done-that albums. except tv on the radio. and destroyer. and beirut. and bonnie prince billy. so wtf.
pitchfork totally puts the clipse and other coked up hiphop in there because they think it'll give them street cred and makes them feel superior to all their white, shrinking violet, wanna-be-hipster readers who still think listening to arcade fire is cool.

Posted by: stephanie. at 12/19/06 10:10 PM  | Reply
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...i saw the thermals open up for cursive and i wanted to bash my head in with my beer bottle. boring.

joanna newsom's voice makes me want to bust my eardrums with rusty nails.

big ups for TI. you have to appreesh hot tracks when you hear them.

m.ward - talk about sn00zefest

the hold steady *cringe* i used to work in the music section at a bookstore and wanted to murder anyone who asked for that cd.

belle &sebastian...i own every single EP, single, &album of theirs, then they went and released Push Barman...wtf. I chose not to buy the life pursuit after that. they broke my heart.

im glad the decemberists are on there, and i actually liked stadium arcadium.

didn't Bring it Back come out this year too? i love the hell out of that album.

commence the hate.......now.

Posted by: janea at 12/19/06 10:47 PM  | Reply
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i love you

Posted by: but i've chosen darkness at 12/20/06 1:11 AM  | Reply
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BORIS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: E at 12/20/06 1:39 AM  | Reply
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ha! no sufjan! in your face!

Posted by: looksgreen at 12/20/06 5:04 AM  | Reply
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The Knife album kicks ass. A nice surprise to see it there. But where is Voxtrot? Pitchfork loses credibility when the omit this great quartet from Austin.

Posted by: snickerdoodle at 12/20/06 5:41 AM  | Reply
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No Midlake, no Neko Case, and no Jenny Lewis?

I like the Band of Horses record at #12, it really hit me the first time, but its appeal has dimished significantly with each subsequent play.

By contrast, 'The Trials of Van Occupanther' has fantastic depth and gets better with each listen. Maybe Pitchfork did cast it aside as a 'retro-pastiche', but I'd argue that The Knife record is exactly that, and it made number 1.

I dismissed the Joanna Newsom record as self indulgent pish the first time I heard it, but after listening to it on headphones while wandering around Tesco, I have to say, I take it all back - it's fascinating.

Posted by: Yashin at 12/20/06 6:03 AM  | Reply
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Was "Black holes and revelations" that bad of an album , no one has mentioned it as a snub.. or anything for that matter. anywho it is one of my favorites this year. the list is alright, I guess.

Posted by: juan at 12/20/06 6:10 AM  | Reply
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That Clipse record is so fucking boring. 90% of the beats are hot garbage, beats the Neptunes couldn't sell to anyone else. And wow, every song is about dealing cocaine, so edgy!

Hipsters love this album because its the closest they'll have to black friends in their entire midwestern, white-guilt ridden life.

Posted by: Juelz Santana at 12/20/06 10:03 AM  | Reply
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That Clipse record is so fucking boring. 90% of the beats are hot garbage, beats the Neptunes couldn't sell to anyone else. And wow, every song is about dealing cocaine, so edgy!

Hipsters love this album because its the closest they'll have to black friends in their entire midwestern, white-guilt ridden lives.

Posted by: Juelz Santana at 12/20/06 10:05 AM  | Reply
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That Clipse record is so fucking boring. 90% of the beats are hot garbage, beats the Neptunes couldn't sell to anyone else. And wow, every song is about dealing cocaine, so edgy!

Hipsters love this album because its the closest they'll have to black friends in their entire midwestern, white-guilt ridden lives.

Posted by: Juelz Santana at 12/20/06 10:10 AM  | Reply
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My favorite argument is the one where people say that Pitchfork only includes hip hop for street cred. That's rich.


A couple of my favorite albums that got the shaft that I thought deserved placing are:

The Evens - Get Evens
Comets on Fire - Avatar (most underrated album of the year?)
Plastic Constellations - Crusades
The Game - The Doctor's Advocate
Maritime - We, The Vehicles (didn't expect to see it on the list, but I think it's a really slept on album)

Also, I like the guy who said he wanted to murder Hold Steady fans and then subsequentally copped to liking Stadium Arcadium.

Posted by: carson at 12/20/06 10:18 AM  | Reply
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"Pitchfork totally puts the clipse and other coked up hiphop in there because they think it’ll give them street cred and makes them feel superior to all their white, shrinking violet, wanna-be-hipster readers who still think listening to arcade fire is cool"

OF COURSE! it all makes sense now. the only reason pitchfork celebrates hip-hop albums because they want to be black!

here i am thinking that these hip-hop albums are actually great. how dare you, pitchfork, for making me think hiphop is actually worth listening to! i'm going back to my white Hold Steady and Mountain Goats

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/20/06 10:31 AM  | Reply
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two albums that i really loved from this year, that were not included:

WIDERNESS - Vessel States

PINK MOUNTAINTOPS - Axis of Evol

anyone else like Wilderness? I saw them live at Cakeshop NYC and they were transcendent.

also like other, very surprised about the omission of Beirut's Gulag Orkestar.

Posted by: nol at 12/20/06 10:41 AM  | Reply
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The Clipse record is pretty boring

Posted by: Todd at 12/20/06 10:45 AM  | Reply
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come to think about it, the nba only awarded Steve Nash the MVP because they were losing their white audience.

thanks, stereogum, for illuminating these conspiracies that involve race for me. all is right in the world again.

Posted by: c.not.k at 12/20/06 10:49 AM  | Reply
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I also thought they overlooked Regina Spektor...just as good as f'in Ys.

Posted by: look at 12/20/06 10:52 AM  | Reply
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two albums that i really loved from this year, that were not included:

WIDERNESS - Vessel States

PINK MOUNTAINTOPS - Axis of Evol

anyone else like Wilderness? I saw them live at Cakeshop NYC and they were transcendent.

also like other, very surprised about the omission of Beirut's Gulag Orkestar.

Posted by: nol at 12/20/06 10:52 AM  | Reply
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Where's Blind Guardian?

Posted by: Bilbo at 12/20/06 11:09 AM  | Reply
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belle &sebastian...i own every single EP, single, &album of theirs, then they went and released Push Barman...wtf. I chose not to buy the life pursuit after that. they broke my heart.

-----That was an EP collection, not a new album. If you have everything, shouldn't you already have known this/had it all? huh?????


its weird how subjective music can be, by the way.

having that said, my list is the only right one.

Posted by: Bill at 12/20/06 11:15 AM  | Reply
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Worst. List. Ever.

Posted by: Rainman at 12/20/06 1:11 PM  | Reply
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What, only 4 Canadian entries?

I agree with the list for the most part, but with the wide array of experimental artists in the top 15 alone, you think they could have at least included Final Fantasy somewhere! After all he did win the Polaris prize, which is a lot more credible than the Mercury prize (The Arctic Monkeys are a more understandable ommission).

Posted by: Shawn at 12/20/06 1:26 PM  | Reply
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"After all he did win the Polaris prize, which is a lot more credible than the Mercury prize"

Ah, another Torontonian heard from...

Posted by: M-J at 12/20/06 2:14 PM  | Reply
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Whoever it was that posted last year's comments, f'ing BRILLIANT! People say the same shit! "Pitchfork's list sucks. My list is the best. GOD, where is ___________?"

That being said, my list is the best.

Posted by: Chris at 12/20/06 2:16 PM  | Reply
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What, no Günther? No Pleasureman?

Was it because it was a re-release?

Posted by: Mr. Shickadance at 12/20/06 10:23 PM  | Reply
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Just a question. Has anyone who bashed Justin Timberlake on this comment board actually listened to the album or are you just bashing it because it's Justin Timberlake? I put my money on the latter. And, concerning the Hold Steady's album, I enjoy it with a nice beer and a smoke. Yes, Neko should be there, but seriously chill the fuck out. And finally, My number one would easily be Grizzly Bear, followed by Califone, then by TVOTR. It's what I like.

Posted by: Zac at 12/20/06 10:40 PM  | Reply
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I have The Mountain Goats at #1 this year and none of yous has even mentioned it.
Hmm. By definition alone that makes me more indie than the lot of ya'.
One to nothin'.

Posted by: jizza at 12/21/06 12:12 AM  | Reply
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I think you have to take Pitchfork at face value. I enjoy having a website to go to every morning to read reviews of new albums, songs, and updated music news. I don't always agree with them, but I enjoy reading their perspective. I think people can get sucked into the "Pitchfork culture," and it can start to influence their opinions on music. If you look at most Best of 2006 lists that have been released, the same albums pop up time and time again in various orders. Pitchfork's year end lists are entertaining reading and should not be taken so seriously.

Posted by: Schum at 12/21/06 2:02 PM  | Reply
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Yeah, there are some great albums on there but the world seems to forget that there are great records released each year that people don't listen to simply because Pitchfork chooses not to review them. Also, has anyone noticed that Pitchfork isn't as harsh as it used to be? Could be in relation to them linking to sites that you can buy CDs from. Every time someone clicks on that link to buy, Pitchfork gets a cut. Unbiased reviews my ass.

Posted by: KingOfNes at 12/21/06 9:16 PM  | Reply
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Does nobody like the new Iron Maiden album? I loved it, my friends loved it, what's the deal?

Posted by: Chris Osborne at 12/22/06 10:13 AM  | Reply
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What about Jedi Mind Tricks? Their album was fucking tops!

Posted by: Jason K at 12/27/06 10:06 PM  | Reply
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My top album was Clipse's (and its probably b/c I feel so goddamn guilty about slavery... or maybe liking them will make my fatish white suburban self cooler. HOT DAMN crack rap here I come!)

I read a lot of P4K this year so I can say I am not suprised by the snubs: neko, el perro (i would have liked to see her up), cold war, islands (the reviewer let on that it was weak), the avalanche, subtle (so good) etc.. Following P4K tho I am suprised that BYOP (suprisingly good imho), The Knife, J Dilla (at all), Justin Timberlake (mmm singles) are as high as they are. They snubbed JT on a BestNewMusic, but I had a feeling it would show back up. I am pleasantly suprised to see the Liars and Ghostface still holding strong through the year. And for who ever thought it was weird they dropped Girl Talk down a peg: The review is decidely "this a summer album, fun without much weight". See Also: Face the Truth also a 'snubbed' summer album.

Posted by: Guilty? Go Fuck Yourself! at 12/28/06 5:25 AM  | Reply
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i'm glad people still care about music. now i'll be a blowhard.

2006 was a great year, and i think the list is mostly spot on (though i think the knife album sounds a bit much like kraftwerk - but, i like kraftwerk). most of my favorite records got a nod (except the blow and islands, which were both fun but i can see how they'd be viewed as having no staying power). i also loved the che hei hatekeyama record, but was glad to see tim hecker in there.

if you don't like ys, go listen to it with headphones, three times through and re-evaluate. it's my tops...it's wholly original, and stunningly emotional. IMHO - nothing else on the list comes close to it...and i do listen to it in my car.

and the post from the b&s fan who dissed on push barman was hilarious...not only is that all old stuff, it's some of their best!

continue...

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