System Of A Down Has Fans
I don't get it.
Posted at 4:09 PM
May 9, 2005
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i couldn't even make it through the first song on snl. i was really trying to give it a shot, but damn it hurts!
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I really wanted them to be more sinister than they appeared on snl. instead, it all seemed too local wierdo, especially the singer who looked like he worked at a magic shop or comic book store(possibly the same one that j mascis looks like he works at). in my head, I had pictured them as a prog rap metal version of constantin sankati. and they weren't. they're just not desperate enough.
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Some of the songs on the new album are really good. However that single is pretty damn spastic. Lost in Hollywood is pretty damn decent. But I suppose it's an aquired taste.
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"After I heard System of a Down, I thought, I’m actually alive to hear the shittiest band ever. Of all the bands that have gone before and all the bands that’ll be in the future, I was around when the worst was around."
Noel Gallagher. The man tells it like it is... sometimes. Other times he's flat out crazy, but always-- ALWAYS-- entertaining.
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I'm going to be honest. I like System of a Down. Why? Because like anone over 25 and under 35 I went through a metal phase. I had Megadeth, Metallica (Kill 'Em All, the Cliff Burton Alcoholica dayz, yo) Sepultura, Pantera, you fucking name it. And I loved it. I didn't wear black concert T-shirts or have big hair, or smoked cigarettes in school, I just liked ass kicking music. I still do. I like complex percussion, rhythmically challenging music, and bit of a headbang every once in a while. System of a Down is a political, entertaining, and fucking rock. They may not be pretty-boy rockers, or "ironic" or anything else...and their new single is a tad obvious. But Toxicity is great, and the album before it not too shabby either. Hating on System of a Down is boring, and obvious, especially on a site like this.
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you either love them or hate them.
the single BYOB is amazing.
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I hate the new single, i hated their first album, and I liked a good chunk of the album prior to this. I can see why people like them, but I don't get the rabid fandom. Plus, the politics make me want to die, but that's nothing new for me...
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Funny, because this weekend I decided that I like System.
Just the concept that this very weird leftist armenian prog metal band is very popular is pretty amazing.
I think it's awesome for things a bit more out of the ordinary to be popular. Why would we need another Coldplay or Jesse McCartney?
Less vanilla music!
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Armenian Genocide. Never Forget. Maybe you fools need a history lesson.
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System of a Down is certainly an acquired taste. Just yesterday a friend asked me which of May's new releases have I enjoyed the most. In addition to Spoon's GIMME FICTION, I had to say MEZMERIZE by System of a Down. And I usually don't dig music with "thrash" in the title. This band is so bi-polar, they're great. Consequently, my friend's response was something like, "Who would've thought YOU would like thrash metal?" Just my point.
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armenian genocide has exactly what to do with them being the most fucking godawful frightening migraine inducing noise racket? yeah, i know they're armenian. and yeah, i know they're from my area. history does not a good band make!
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that SNL performance was cringe-worthy. the first tune was the most disturbing amalgamation of Iron Maiden and Britney Spears I've ever heard. rat-faced dude on the guitar was trying really hard to be scary and lead singer guy had on really 'spensive prop jacket from Pirates of the Caribbean. and hair.
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That's funny, I always wondered why more people hadn't figured out that there's nothing all that special about The Arcade Fire.
I like System. I don't care what their politics are because I don't look to bands for my politics. Their songs are well-constructed, they're tight as hell, and they do things with the metal formula that make me optimistic about the genre's future.
Considering the alternative is a bunch of white kids in ironic t-shirts who can't quite hit the notes they're trying to sing, I'll stick with the crazy Armenians howling about pogo sticks and changing tempos every three seconds whether the song needs it or not.
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Uh, I'm over 25 and under 35, and I never went through a metal phase....
Anyway it's not so much about hating System of a Down, but being fascinated and confused by their inexplicable popularity. For example, if someone tells me they love grape soda, which I can't stand, I can still grasp the concept that they have different taste.
But if they tell me they love eating dog shit, that's something else entirely. It's something that can't be explained away with the aphorism, "to each his own." It's just too hard to conceive of why someone might enjoy something so distasteful.
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It looked like Gabe Kaplin and Ron Pallilo on that stage.
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one of the songs on the new album is titled "Cocaine Makes Me Feel Like I'm On This Song" - that has to be one of the GREATEST and most fitting song titles ever...
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i don't get it either, amen.
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I guess people just see the fucked up, hard parts of them. I mean, my views of the band changed from when I first heard Chop Suey and from when I heard Aerials. They're by far the most Bi-Polar band ever. When they go hard it's sometimes hard for me to listen, but some of their softer stuff is just amazing, lyrically and melody wise.
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the worst part has been of the comments page is the critique on FASHION in a band. nobody has discussed anything wrong with them musically.
oh and if you compare a band to liking dog shit (i.e., crude, non-digestable, bad for you) maybe something akin to joan of arc would suffice. system of a down might be black licorice. but that's semantics.
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as soon as they said that system of a down was the musical guest, i imediately thought what the hell? becuse i had no idea that that band was popular with a wide fan base. w/e, i guess they r, but when they started to preform i really couldnt take it, maybe i just dont like that type of music, but it was awful.
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Why does the lead singer look like Ronnie James Dio now???
But yeah...horrible!!!
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love system of the down. Love love love.
reason for their success? It's like metal mixed with musical theatre music.
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when BYOB came on the radio this weekend that was the first time I had heard it and I literally thought "Wtf is this shit? is he speaking english?"
I agree Armenian Genocide=not good, then again, I think most people would agree with this. Do we need to hear SOAD soil our ears to be properly informed? Most certainly not.
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Truly one of the most unique bands playing right now; and on a major label no less.
My guess is that people who hate them here just don't like the style of music, or the volume; because for the genres they touch on they have taken things in really creative and inspired directions.
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All research and successful drug policy show that treatment should be increased and law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimun sentences
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All research and successful drug policy show that treatment should be increased and law enforcement decreased while abolishing mandatory minimum sentences
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I don't love them or hate them. I listen to wimpy music for the most part, but I don't see how people can hate System. "Hating on System of a Down is boring, and obvious, especially on a site like this."
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have you forgotten that System Of A Down had the #1 CD in America on 9/11?
this band's popularity has had some legs...
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you either like them, hate them, or think they ok.
i think they ok.
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/\ Best comment ever!
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System of a Down are still way more exciting/ interesting than Death Cab.
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Heavy metal sea shanties. Fucking garbage.
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david brent, you also like des ree. your comment is invalid.
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"Toxicity" is a cool song. Disorder, disorder, dis-ORRRRRAHRRRR-DUUUUHRRRRRRR!
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Syndrome of a Down
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That's what I thought when I first saw Radiohead perform on SNL... these guys have fans?
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Hah. I like System of a Down. Or at least I LIKED a lot of Toxicity. But I tried listening to it the other day and couldn't.
Then again, I like a lot of crappy, unpopular-with-hipsters music. Haha.
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i agree with the previous poster. "toxicity" was great for approximately 14 months, and then somehow managed to become dated and horrible.
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"System of a Down has fans". Oh real clever. I expect more intelligent posts on a site like this. Maybe you should throw out another 'Ben Gibbard sneezes and God has blessed us all' post. It is possible for bands not on the O.C. and that don't play Coachella to be meaningful and intelligent. Give System credit for cracking onto mainstream radio (prior to the "indie rock" resurgence) when bands like Limp Bizkit and Creed ruled the airwaves. Or maybe they should just hook up with Jimmy Tamborello and then you can respect them.
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Renee Zelwegger married Kenny Chesney!?
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boo-fucking-hoo. the same statement could made of the countless much-trumpeted awful "clever" "indie" bands I've heard in the past 5 years, to which promptly disappeared off the face of the earth.
boo-fucking-hoo. politics make me cringe! i can't handle reality and bash anyone who brings it up! thats one of the reasons 98% of music released these days is bubblegum garbage that means ABSOLUTELY nothing. thanks for that, folks. the steady decline in music completely devoid of meaning or thought is on your hands.
but i guess it's your blog to stir this shit up.
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Interesting to note that the band has one celebrity fan too:
Avril Lavigne said that System of a down was one of her all-time favorite bands, right next to Green Day and Sum 41.
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Yeah, I have to be honest, I never expected to see hating on System on this site. Then again, sometimes I forget how afraid indie scene types are of metal. First of all, five bucks says half the negative comments think SOAD is nu-metal, which is fucking ridiculous. Secondly, I'd be willing to bet most of them don't listen to metal, either. SOAD are, without a doubt, the most revolutionary heavy band since Tool. I've liked them since I first heard "Sugar" about 7 years ago, I can never understand the hatred for them, and I never will.
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this has been indie vs. mainstream: perpetual culture clash in the comments, volume 37, issue #17.
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if ashlee simpson has fans, everyone can be idolized.
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"reason for their success? It's like metal mixed with musical theatre music."
Perfect description.I myself am neither fan nor hater. Go figure.
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Ahahahahahahaha! That made me laugh way harder and longer than it should have...
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STOP THE PRESSES!
renee zellweger has just married kenny chesney.
please discuss, especially how jack white and loretta lynn fit into it all...
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and while we're on the subject of 'nu-metal' et al, let's talk about the only one of those bands that really matters - DEFTONES.
has anyone heard chino's side band TEAM SLEEP? it's cool enough to be on the cover of urb magazine - i guess rob from pinback and mary timony are both on the album...
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question, who is kenny chesney? (i'm australian)
let's blame it on loretta: her age aside, i can understand why jack white would prefer a husky, skeletal southern belle who had made decent records over a husky, skeletal southern belle who was in 'white oleander'.
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Wow.
I'm holding my tongue. Everyone has different taste (and God knows I don't share some of yours -- El Kabong hit it on the head with that Arcade Fire comment) but you're just getting downright surly and scurrilous.
First Rivers, now System of a Down? What is wrong with you? I'm beginning to question your judgement.
I almost quit coming to this blog on account of your Rivers comment. Honestly. What does a band have to do to earn your respect, anyway?
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they certainly aren't the worst of their "genre".
granted they are not my cup of tea either. at the very least they seem to have a lot of intelligent things to say. i used to like tool a lot in my early twenties.
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I'm not a metal fan at all, but I like System of a Down pretty well. They have a fair degree of musicianship, they are pretty intentive, they have some of that good old METAL INTENSITY but they aren't afraid to work in the occasional tune and some nice harmonies. I don't own their CDs or anything but I have pretty good feelings about the band. I really don't see what would possess one to sincerely dislike the band with such intensity.
Although, I'm not surprised that this is the sort of band that hipsters would choose to dump on. As others have pointed out, they aren't working the sort of self-conscious irony angle that hipsters usually feel safe in embracing. On the other hand, they are not cheeseball-commercial enough for Hipsters to get Common Man points for pretending to like them. So they are in the middle, too sincere to enjoy ironically; weird, but too accessible to latch onto due to the sheer weirdness factor.
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They came out, they played, and I damn near choked on my sandwich I laughed so hard. That was, without a doubt, the most comically bad performance I've ever seen on SNL. Dream Theater meets Anthrax meets The Darkness meets ... hell, I dunno. But wherever they all meet, they drink too much and convince themselves they're good.
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I thought the lead singer looked like Eugene Levy on SNL. Also, the guitar player has scary bug eyes. I'll be honest and say the music is too heavy for my tastes, so I don't listen to System of a Down. But allow me to reiterate: scary bug eyes. That dude freaks me out. My brother likes SOAD, but he likes harder rock than I do. To each his own.
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How come nobody is talking about how the network censors forgot to cut out one of the "Fuck Off's" during one of their songs? It slipped right through into the public collective unconscious...
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I loved their first two albums, but I kinda lost interest over the last couple of years, and after seeing the utter crap that was their "SNL" performance (at least the first song), I don't plan on getting back into them anytime soon.
I should note that I too noticed when Daron shouted "Fuck yeah!" around the end of the song, and I was surprised that they didn't cut to commercial right then and there. Ah well, I guess it's better than an impromptu hoedown....
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hey kelly
you're retarded.
love, jed
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I was wondering if I was out of touch, or who polished Lorne Michael's knob to make that tragedy happen.
Thanks for making me feel I am not alone, and Lorne probably got something good out of the deal.
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hating on arcade fire..
BLASPHEMY!!
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IM SO GLAD SOMEONE POSTED WHAT MY BOYFRIEND AND I WERE THINKING WHILST WINCING THROUGH SNL PERFORMANCE!!! UGH. what idiot signed them?
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Maybe it's just me, but it seems that most bands who play on SNL sound sucky. Not the bands they pick to play suck, but when they play live on the show they sound bad.
As for System, I like the songs that I've heard from them. When I first heard BYOB on the radio, I was kinda like "hmmm?", but after I listened to it a couple more times I decided I really liked the chorus and how much it contrasted with the rest of the song (Not to get all analysis-y on everyone)
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Gum, you're way off on this one -- they rock, and they rock hard. Their Armenian twist on hard rock is music to my ears...
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Play anything loud enough, and someone's bound to call it the second coming, no matter how pretentious or unmusical.
System Of A Down are simply the new Uriah Heep.
Black Sabbath=metal.
Motorhead=metal.
System Of A Down? Fecal corn.
You don't have to be a "hater" or a "hipster" or "indie type" to know excremement when you hear it.
Seriously.
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It's funny how people argue about music. Most people can't get past Serj's voice. Some people don't like the way they look. It's all taste. But I can't believe all the names flying about while there is much worse in the world.
System is a good band, especially their cover/duet of Wu Tang's "Shame on a Nigga." Try downloading it if you can find it.
I like metal and I wouldn't consider them to be a "hard" band. Although I don't like most American metal bands because they suck. Especially Pantera. Although I'm sure I'll get death threats for that one.
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Didn't scott do a post a while ago seriously asking the people out there what they thought of Maroon 5?
I feel like these posts should be switched, like scott asking everyone what they think of System and then posting "Maroon 5 has fans?"
Ummm I dunno bout you guys, but I'll take Symptom of Downs anyday over Maroon 5
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I don´t get it either...
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scott, i expected more from you. while you may not like their music (which i do), they are non-complacent artists who try to rebel against the status quo. and that, in itself, has value that does not merit your post.
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Personally I think SOAD's music is vomit. But a lot of people feel that way about Radiohead,Tom Waits, Wilco or God forbid- the Napoleon Dynamite fronted Arcade Fire.
Don't worry, in a few years they'll be gone.
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You're telling me! Their vocals are horrible and I don't care WHAT message they're delivering...they need a new deliveryman!
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scott is obvs. not a fan of metal. i think he also fell for maynard keenan's april fools joke as well.
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They should have had Ted Nugent on instead, at least he would have uttered some rightwing racial slur and created something more buzz worthy than some band that wasn't ready for prime time,
maybe it was a joke and nobody got it?
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i have to admit that i don't like system of a down, they try a little too hard for my taste, but the fact that they are even remotely popular gives me hope for the future of music, and restores (at least for the moment) the last shred of faith i had in popular culture.
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"best hard rock band out"
Atlantic Records Marketing Exec.
I like the scattered arrangements, spastic vocals, and megaton heavy riffs. Its an acquired taste, but if variety is the spice of life, these guys are tumeric.
oh, and the political awareness they embody is much needed in the world of music. image is not everything.
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buzzworthy
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/10/tv.snl.expletive.ap/index.html
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It sounds like Sesame Street songs buried under the most cliched metal guitar riffs.
Take away the cheesy metal production and its basically cartoon music with a Gwen Stefani-esque choruses.
You would have to have a comically narrow view of music to see any value in it.
Its like being the smartest kid on the short bus.
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Armenian is the new black.
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A quote from the singer of SOAD, "It doesn’t belong to people, it belongs to the universe. It comes FROM the universe. It comes THROUGH us. When I write something, I think I know what I’m saying, but I never pretend to know the full meaning of the words." Even HE doesn't know what he's singing about.
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I think its a matter of context:
Within Current Metal: Great.
Within the history of metal: Good.
Within the history of Modern Rock: OK.
Within the history of all rock: so-so.
Within the history of 20th century music: Bad.
Within the history of all music: Absolute shit.
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I think it's funny that some of the comments from SOAD fans allege that people don't like SOAD because:
1) They totally have politics! You're afraid of music that MEANS something!
2) They're totally intense and you don't like them because they don't have hipster irony!
3) You're judging them based on their unattractive appearance!
4) They totally BLOW YOUR MINDS and you can't handle it! They are totally more exciting and intense than other bands!
5) You're totally not understanding how the ARMENIAN GENOCIDE plays into it, dood!!!
... as if any of it had to do with the fact that they just, uh, *sound bad*. Being intense, exciting, ugly, politically inclined, sincere, etc. doesn't have anything to do with how the music *sounds*. And with SOAD, that sound is: awful. I can't stand metal though, so it may be genre-related.
P.S. as to the Arcade Fire -- if you don't get them, give them some more listens. I didn't think they were that interesting either, during the first few spins, but the CD really grew on me after repeated listens.
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what's with all the flaming and discussion in the comment section lately?
laaaaaaaaaaaame
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"scott, i expected more from you."
Why do you guys expect anything from Scott? He's a guy who has his own likes and dislikes, and happens to have a website. He's not a promoter for your favorite band. Besides, your favorite band sucks — everyone knows it.
Scott, please make this a regular feature so we can tear down everyone's favorite band.
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i can't believe i want to argue with you fools about SOAD. but i will.
first, metal comes in different flavors. SOAD likes the hardcore/speedmetal elements more than most, which makes their tunes very inaccessible to the wimpy-eared. SOAD also isn't as danceable, as say KORN, further eroding their possible fan base.
Is screaming no longer a lauded attribute in a singer? Straight forward narrative isn't the only way to convey a message.
They aren't my favorite, but if you can't see the creativity, emotion, skill, and artistry of SOAD, i pity you. you're missing out.
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I just wish that all of you that listen to the Arcade Fire, Bright Eyes & Death Cab just admit that you fantasize about getting fucked up the ass by your girlfriend wearing a strap on. You listen to wimp music because you can't admit that you crave cock but are not man enough to make the switch to the real thing. Bunch of fucking posers, judging a band by the way they look. All singers can't look like that connor obrist pillowbiter. In summary: wimpy indie rock fans are men who desire an anal pounding but will never admit their latent homo ways.
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I think the "dood you're all totally homos!!" guy totally summed up everything I could ever say about System of a Down and metal in general. :)
Apologies to all the metal/SOAD fans who are not rednecks/homophobic/etc. etc. and have above a high-school education. I know y'all exist. That was not directed at you and I'm sure you would never post such a silly comment.
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gatrios: yeah, but people who like good music like arcade fire as opposed to shit like system of a down can usually formulate opinions with intelligence and don't resort to bizarre personal attacks. it's all subjective. just say you think arcade fire are shit. while you argue (using sweeping generalizations of easy target bands) that people who listen to bright eyes and death cab (i don't like bright eyes and i'm not the biggest death cab fan) are closet homosexuals, in the end, your arguement is just stupid and angry, with no weight at all, except for the possible personal issues obscuring your thoughts.
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To clear things up: I am a gay man who is sick of all of the closeted bottoms that listen to Vagina Rock, but wont let real gay men pound their rectum until it bleeds.
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um... don't you think that is exactly what the new system single is, "ironic"? listen to all the lyrics. they're not the killers or franz, but they're the best at what they do. period.
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Gone in a few years? I guess the seven years they've been out and their multiplatinum albums have nothing to do with staying power, huh? Just some crazy fad!
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"Apologies to all the metal/SOAD fans who are not rednecks/homophobic/etc. etc. and have above a high-school education. I know y'all exist. That was not directed at you and I'm sure you would never post such a silly comment."
What a condescending, cunty remark. Apology not accepted, hipster cuntflap bitch.
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"Gone in a few years? I guess the seven years they've been out and their multiplatinum albums have nothing to do with staying power, huh? Just some crazy fad!"
Yeah, Here's a bad that's not doing anything like anyone else is doing in the Music business - At least give them for credit for that - As well as being hugely political and actually having the guts to bash Bush moreso than Conor Oberst or any other person of his likes. I like their music...Someone said it was an Acquired taste and Yeah I guess I like Hard Rocking music; It seems more powerful than a double tracked Acoustic Guitar (don't get me wrong I love stuff like that) I guess I just need Drop C Raging guitars from time to time.
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I don't get it, but I can accept some people do. When I fired up my DVR on Sunday and saw they were on I was just frustrated that SNL was actually showing something a little out there, and it wasn't a flavor of "out there" which I have any appreciation for (I'm more of a DFA79 type when it comes to metal-ish stuff, but I realize they're not as big as SoaD).
Plus I remember Toxicity had a lot of buzz but I hadn't even heard they were coming out with a new album, so SNL seemed to have missed the boat by a couple years. Whatever, that's why they have fast-forward.
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P.S. If my post above turned you on, check out my personal ad: http://www.craigslist.org/pen/m4m/72637091.html
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BTW, I am not into asian. Just pasty faced indie rock fans who crave a dominating top and who need to be educated about music.
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system of a down is horrible, just be thankful the creeps that listen to them aren't going to your dfa1979 shows.
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Uh, is this Datalounge or Sterogum???
SOAD =
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DFA1979 also sucks.
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"BTW, I am not into asian. Just pasty face indie rock fans who crave a dominating top and who need to be educated about music."
Want to spoon and listen to the new NIN? ;-*
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i love that we are all so passionate about our music. too bad there's still people out there who listen to whatever clear channel tells them to...
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Yikes! Clearly I struck a nerve. So y'all think I should give SOAD another listen. Anyone wanna suggest best tracks?
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I'd be more embarrased to be caught listening to Oasis that I would be System. Wtf is that all about?
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Stereo, start off with "Prison Song" off Toxicity. It's like the Violent Femmes on speed. The album itself is pretty solid. But of course as with every band, I can see them not being everyone's cup of tea.
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"Deer Dance" is also great, in fact, the first four songs on "Toxicity" are just great. The singles from that album were so-so (I thought Aerials was boring) but the beginning of the album rocks.
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I would also recommend "Sugar" and "Spiders" from the first record.
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"dfa1979 also sucks"
holy shit...are you kidding me?!? Hands down one of the most talented groups in rock right now.
soad has shit on them.
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"Sugar" is the way to start... then try on Toxicity
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this goes out to all the people that said they suck....
have you even listened to their new album?
im guessing not, which leads me to beleve that most of you are morons who have one taste in music, and you dont open your ears to anything new. i fucking hate one-genre people, and how they can tell me how there are all different kinds of genres in their man genre.
and im disapointed sterogum even made this post..
they went platnium, chop suey was a huge hit, and they got famous doing music how they liked to do it.. of course they have fans
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Like I suggested earlier, look for their cover of Wu Tang's Shame on a Nigga." I found it on the internet. Try to get the original too, just so you can hear the improvement SOAD makes on the original.
I do like the faster SOAD songs, but "Roulette" off of "Steal This Album" is one of those songs that can bring a tear to your eye if you're in the right mindset. "Marmalade" is another oft-overlooked track, from the "Strangeland" soundtrack. There's also a 1998 Kid Rock/Eminem song on there as well. Let me know what you think.
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I asked myself the same question when I saw that awful performance, I really tried but I kept tuning out, it was so funny. But I guess the question is answered, they DO have fans, who knew?
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i think a lot of people don't get it. ashley simpson was on snl too.
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I kinda feel bad for people who don't understand what's good about System of A Down. If I had a really narrow interest in music maybe I wouldn't like them either.
Personally, I like the prog-classical influence on Toxicity. I think that album is awesome. I even think "Chop Suey" is a great single.
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You know what they reminded me of? That "Every Day is Halloween" song by Ministry.
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you don't get it because you don't have ONE OUNCE OF COOL IN YOU. if you had any taste at all in music or could broaden your mind beyond (i'm guessing brittney spears and jessica simpson) you could appreciate it..
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AND ONE MORE THING...
HAVE ANY OF YOU TRASHING SYSTEM NOT HEARD BYOB??? ARE YOU PEOPLE INSANE OR JUST DELUDED? YOU DEPEND ON OUR PROTECTION THEN YOU FEED US LIES FROM THE TABLECLOTH....
SYSTEM FUCKING ROCKS ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE CAN NEVER CALL THEMSELVES A ROCKER.
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Late one night, I turned on the TV and saw band of funny-looking characters doing what I thought was a parody of seventies rock on a talk show. Turned out to be Phish doing what Phish does, straight up. Ouch.
Same thing happened with the Spice Girls on SNL. I'd never heard of them at that point and thought they were a(n intentional) joke.
System of Down couldn't possibly have been as bad as either Phish and the Spice Girls.
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Le Stereogum,
I must state for the record System's live '00 performance of 'Spiders' on Conan was EMBARRASSING.
Thank you,
The Management
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All you people hating on "The Down" are out of your minds!
I truly believe that 99% people slamming them have listened to probably 1/10th of the music they put out. If that's the case, that's a bit premature judgement.
Only one person on this thread mentioned "Steal this Album", their 3rd CD which is a compilation of unreleased songs and B-sides. Until you listen to the tracks on this CD SEVERAL TIMES (one or two listens.....you will not get it), you can't judge SOAD. The last 1/2 of the cd just blends great track together with great track, and you can't even tell where one song ends and the next begins (which is weird, since it is a complilation CD). It is a mind-blowing mix of metal, middle eastern music, pop, ballad, with smidgens of jazz and funk thrown in.
It simply kick ass, and there is nothing else to say.
It you can't take heavy-ish music, then there is plenty of easy listening stuff out there for all.
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System of a down fucking rocks, and rocks hard, and anyone that don't like it can suck my balls!!!!!!!
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I LOVE system of a down. They are so much different than every other band out there and that's what is cool to me. I love how they can take a song and start it very slow and mellow and then change it suddenly back to a fast paced metal song.... not to mention the voices of the singers are so different than other bands also. These two let go rather than hold back as to not startle the crowd with a little variety.
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You people are complete idiots. System of a down is the only original work out there right now. The only thing that you foolish retards site is that they are "funny looking." The problem is that you are all listening the shitty GLAM music that is out now. You know, the music that puts a pretty person in the front of a band/pop group and has shitty pop songs written for them?? Then there are designer "punks" like greenday and blink. The fact that they can look however they want and make it today shows that they have MAD talent.
PS the guy from oasis
#1 is not john lennon
#2 sucks
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Support System of a Down - they F'n ROCK!!
Buy 'Steal This Album', SOAD Self Titled, 'Toxicity' and 'Mezmerize'(out now!)
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On the new album "This Cocaine makes me feel like Im on this Song" is the best track, the whole cd is excellent.
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I came upon this site by accident, excuse my intrusion.
Alot of you people are talking about SOAD as if they were a new band. They've been around for several years. Maybe if these people were real music fans they would know about this.
From what I can tell, some of you are pop lovers, that is, people that listen to pop music exclusively. I have no respect for pop lovers, they know nothing of musicianship, or even how a song is played. Being a musician, I respect all forms of music, except maybe hip-hop, rap, and pretty much anything else that is written by a computer and run through so many voice filters that you couldn't recognize the person's actual voice from hearing their, "music."
Also keep in mind that live performances, especially at SNL, tend to sound alot worse than the album.
You also should not judge a band by the way they look. Thats one of the biggest problems in music today. People put too much emphasis on the way an artist looks and not enough on the way they sound.
Whoa, went on a rant there. Excuse the disorganized statements.
Also this is only directed toward some of you, some made much better argumants than I. I had only read about half of the page when I started writing.
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well i think System of a Down is the best ever. i love them.
after all we are free to choose what we wanna listen to. and of course 90% just love to be in the mainstream, watching hapl naked girls on MTV every day.
it's up to you...........
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system is awesome..not only is there new single great but so is the new album. there appearences dont mean shit and for those of you who are stuck on that then u obviously never listen to music and you just look at the band. and you know what thats kind of sad! system is a great band
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Im not a huge fan of System Of A Down but I have to admit they are heaps better than most of the other mainstream shit these days and they are one of the few nu-metal bands that came up with an original sound. Yeah I know thay aren't as good as the older metal bands (Iron Maiden, Slayer, Metallica) but seriously, I would rather listen to them than Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Simple Plan or any other pop or rap shit.
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System of a Down is a great band you dipshits.
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I prefer songs like Aerials, Atwa, Chop Suey!...BYOB reminds me of the older stuff which is why I nevered listen to anything they did before Toxicity.
By the way, there's free download of Cigaro at MP3.com.
Link: http://chkpt.zdnet.com/chkpt/mp3-systemdown-download-click/image.com.com/mp3/images/misc/system_of_a_down_cigaro.mp3
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system of a down are absolutley amazing because their lyrics dont just talk about love they talk about poverty and other things that are happening in the world. i noticed some people on here are discriminating, as you say 'you dont want to listen to rap or shit music,' most music's origin is underground trance. some put the music into groups e.g punk, glam, goth and pop. this is proven that the people who do that take into account what they look like and not how they sound. i bet most people who do that dont actually listen to the music themselves but depend others out on the street to tell them what they sound like. take 'goths' for instence what music would you associate to them... i reckon most of you sitting there reading this think screaming, heavy because the way they dress.
this goes to the people who are discriminating soad show that you listen to 2/10 of their music out
p.s i cant beleive you read throught this shite!!!! lol!
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I would like to make a small correction. Nu-metal is essentially rap-rock, at least as I understand it from what I read on wikipedia. System of a Down is not Nu-metal. I don't like to prescribe to genre classifying, but sometimes you have to.
Some of you people need to learn to not listen to people about music and form your own opinions when you listen to the music.
P.S. to HH
I personally think that their old stuff is better than their newer stuff, of course, their newer stuff is great too, and I haven't heard mezmerize yet. But if you like the new stuff thats your perogative. Just wanted to voice my opinion on that.
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SOAD is my favourite band. Like everyone says, the are an aquired taste. The basic reason behind this is because they are so weird and unique, ie. sound, dress etc. Anywho I can understand why you wouldn't like them, the whole changing in tempo, singing that is very fast thing and the weirdness facter. But they've been doing this for seven years now, and have gotten quite good at it and unlike modern political bands that have sprung up lately they've been doing this since their first album and it hasn't all been about the Armenian genocide, or atleast it isn't always directly focused on it. All I have to say is that you shouldn't just judge a book by it's cover and definatly not by a performance on SNL, I saw that episode with SOAD and I do admit it could have been better.
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System of a down are great, people should listen to them before they start talking all this shit, just because you a huge kelly clarckson fan doesnt meen you have to discredit a real talented band. BTW Serj does look like a pirate
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Well my fucking bad. i dont get how you guys are all hating the system of a down .. they ROCK. there best song on toxicity is most definately chop suey.its not to hardcore .. its got some soft stuff so its most likely to satisfy the not so hardcore one's. well im sorry to all them out there that like ricky martin or whatever .. britney spears .. gwen stefani and shit. get a life that music is gay.who wants more of them.these days the music is all same old same old.but yet system of a down . .thats another story .. all there stuffs random and you can mosh hard to it. so go fuck yourselfs [scuse my language]
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SOAD FOREVER
CHE SOAD AND GIVARE ROCK ES HIMARNERI VORA
KUNENK TURKERI MORA
ZHASH TANK NRANTS VORA
KILIKIAI VRICA
HET VERZNENK XARSA
U URISH MNACACA
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HAYATAN
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System of a Down is an awesome band.
After listening their all albums I forgot all other bands I liked. Their music sound (f*cking)good in my ear. Only their music isn't good, all the band members are cool imo. All their music videos are cool (except "Spiders", it sucks pretty bad). I don't see any reason to hate this awesome band.
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to all the SOAD haters fuck off! I love System they are favorite band and better than any of the crappy shit you post on this shitty website. This is my first time to ever be on this website and I already think that its viewers are motherfucking assholes who have no taste in music what so ever. To all the SOAD fans out there you guys are all right. I did laugh at some of you guys' pitiful metaphors attempting to trash system of a down. Let me clue you guys in... They don't give a shit about you and they could care less what the hell you asswipes think. And Who the fuck cares if they said fuck and it wasn't bleeped out half of you mofo's print the f word in your postings anyway why would you care. SO JUST DEAL WITH IT you stupid ass haters out there
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1) System of a Down are shit.
2) System of a Down have pointles, crappy lyrics, no recognisable harmony or melody, and no instrumental or vocal talent.
3) System of a Down is a band that relies on "rebellious" teenagers' fleeting likes; people who like them like them for about a week, then realise just how abysmal they are, and never listen to them again.
4) System of a Down are shit. I don't give a toss what Avril Lavigne thinks; she's shit too.
5) In case you haven't noticed yet, I both think System of a Down are shit, and, yes, shock horror, i like indie and Rock n' Roll. But what you SOAD fans don't realise that in 10 years no-one will remember them. They will be lost in a sea of equally shit metal (or whatever they are) bands, forgotten forever. The sign of great bands is that they live on after they die.
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Noel Gallagher said:
"After I heard System of a Down, I thought, I’m actually alive to hear the shittiest band ever. Of all the bands that have gone before and all the bands that’ll be in the future, I was around when the worst was around."
He couldn't have hit the nail on the head any sweeter, or with any bigger a hammer.
To all you "hardcore" SOAD fand out there, i suggest you stop "moshing" and "rocking" for a few seconds and get a grip on your pathetic tastes and understand what music is. It's not someone playing a guitar at 10000 decibels, and someone screaming "fucking fuck fuckety fuck fuck fuck" into a microphone.
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LIAR! Spiders is the best freakin' video. Just because it's SLOW and MELODIC and NOT BADASS ENOUGH doesn't mean it's inferior. Maybe you've headbanged too much to recognize real music.
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Just for the record, SOAD is my favourite band too. They are musically intricate and complex, and I'm happy when it's played loud because it usually drowns out the Avril from next door. As a guitarist, bassist, pianist, drummer, and vocalist, one cannot claim that my musical background is insufficient to justify this claim.
By the way, anyone heard the Avril Lavigne Chop Suey cover? I shat my pants laughing. Possibly the worst recording in the history of music.
for anyone who wants it http://rapidshare.de/files/3364875/soadal.rar.html
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system of a down eats bands like oasis in the breakfast takes bands like coldplay like tothpicks and wipes their asses with the rest of shitty british's bands
fuck you NOEL your vallium shitty band get worths each time
nothing like wonderwall champagne supernova etc etc.
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system of a down eats bands like oasis in the breakfast takes bands like coldplay like tothpicks and wipes their asses with the rest of shitty british's bands
NOEL your vallium shitty band get worths each time
nothing like wonderwall champagne supernova etc etc.
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I fucking HATE SOAD. THEIR MUSIC SUCKS. THEIR SINGER SUCKS. THEIR GUITARIST SUCK. THEIR LYRICS SUCK. THEIR RIFFS SUCK. THE POINT SUCKS. I FUCKING HATE THEM. JUST DIE.
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What have they done to you, Broken?!
What's the password for that Avril Lavigne cover RAR ?
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WUT IS UP WITH U PEOPLE???? FIRST OF ALL THERE TARGET AGE GROUP IS TEENS NOT SOME FAT GUYS WITH DIRTY T-SHIRTS THAT SHOULD HAVE SOMTHING BETTER IN TERE LIFE THEN CRITICIZE A BAND... besides.. u guys are 2 closed minded.. noone ever said shit about any other "wierdly dressed band" if thats how they wana dress then let them u idiots.... second of all ur music taste is 2 shittiy to like them i listened to system of a down ever since 1998 (so for 7 years) and ive liked every song... for one they mix middle eastern tunes and more of a grunge rock together to make very sweet music... and for the people who r badmouthing there SNL preformance... ive seen about hmm 50 other preformars and they always have the shittyest preformances on Snl.... So go listen to ur gay music noone wants to hear how some old fat guy likes to critisize GOOD music.... (wut idiots)
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greatest band to grace the planet earth with their ambience and presence. the politics may not be as outright as rage against the machine but songs like revenga and sugar make you wanna sign up for rugby just to release some pent up rage you've had since you were a kid.
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I've noticed how so many people have been griping about how SOAD looks... so frickin' what? Since when does one's fashion choices affect their talent?
Also, why are so many people becoming so rabid about a band? Whether you like 'em or not is a matter of opinion. Everyone has one, and if yours is different than mine, I shouldn't tell you you're wrong. That would be attempting to assimilate you into my way of thinking - and that defeats the idea of individuality.
Also, so many of you seem to have only heard of them on SNL - MTV should not be telling you what to listen to. Hell, they haven't even played music videos in 10 years or more.
Besides, most everyone sounds like crap on SNL; the sound producers suck, and only popular artists appear on their channel. How often have you seen them introduce a new, never-before-heard band that wasn't a carbon-copy of another popular group?
Lesson for the Day: don't judge a band based on popular opinion or MTV play. Grab a few of their songs, listen to 'em a few times, then make your decision. If you like 'em, great. Buy their music. If you don't, big deal. Move on.
/obscenely long post
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First of all, what's all this shit about the way they look? Since when does EVERY band have to get on stage with a tie and a $200 hair cut. And about the music, if you don't like hard music, fine. Just say that and move on. But to say that its garbage when every media outlet is bleeding with bubblegum bullshit, whiny self-pity, or random non-sense to the "it never gets old" 4/4 time sig shows how narrow-minded your ear is, as well as the utter insignificance of your opinion. Maybe they ought to turn it down a bit, keep it simple, and add some MIDI so that they sound like every other hip band.
SOAD, like Radiohead and the Mars Volta, is years ahead of its time and probably won't be fully appreciated for another twenty years. And while they'll still be selling out massive venues, a lot of you hipsters, will be reminiscing about bands like the Ceasars and the Killers and the Bravery in the same pathetic manner as some might yearn for the days of Erasure, Dexys Midnight Runners, and the God-awful Thompson Twins.
open your minds...
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Somethingawful.com has an article where several Syndrome Of A Down fans work themselves into a froth defending their band.
Me, I'd be inclined to take them more seriously if "BYOB" weren't practically a word-for-word ripoff of "War Pigs".
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Well I guess it's a crime to act like you're crazy in a band. Ozzie would never do that. Theatre - nahhh - SOAD should just lay there like Lox.
Friggin idiots wouldn't know good arranged music if it sat on your face.
Now can we please talk about real talent. So what do you think about Britney?
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System was taking under the wing of the Fucking King- Rick Rubin. At his stage in his career I dont think that he would work with anyone unless they were the best at what they do. SOAD Rocks
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the system rox. i dont care what the fuck any1 else says. my friends ryan and erik r huge fans 2. u gotta admit u will always have a strange but real luv 4 system of a down. it helps u calm down when yur angry and get angry web yur calm.
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my friend told me that he watched a documentary on them on either vh1 or mtv and during a concert the one member said "I suck his dick!" to the other. that started many to throw shoes and other shit at them and boo the hell out of them. You all see that or hear that they are gay or anything? i enjoy their music but dont want to think they are a bunch of gay fuckers!
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look system are friken kick ass it dosnt matter were ther from what they look like only what ther music sounds like i mean judging a band on ther looks is preety shallow everyone will like them in about 10 years when ppl relize what they wanted to achive
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yea oasis has a right to comment being a crappy beatles clone
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soad is the best band i've ever heard and many people can agree on that they are talented up the ass hands down and who ever doesnt agree with me doesnt know what good music sounds like i first heard them in mexico where they have heavy fans..
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I dont know much about them.. :( :'( but still i love them! can anyone tell me about a GOOD website which i can see and learn anything about them... im just new on this, i looove them so much! can someone please tell me about a website which i can learn manything about them..
and please, dont say im a lousy fan... its anyway 3 or 4 weeks i heard about them, and i love them.. :D
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some of u guys are bashing System of a Down. You know what I have to say to that?
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bump
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FUCK YOU ALL!!!!! YOU GUYS SUCK!!!!!
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I own all of SOAD's albums, I would consider myself a fan, but at the same time feel like the lead singer is out of his mind. I agree with the "Sesame Street" comment, that's how I describe it to people. He goes off into a cloud and does opera in a cartoonish voice... It's very um different then other thrash bands. :-)
I have always liked thrash music, I just never liked the death/devil/etc that went along with it. DRI was awesome but the vocals/lyrics were shit.
Atleast SOAD can sing, most of them can't.
I can't believe how many of the fans dislike the thrash metal of it. I wouldn't buy their next album if they changed it.
Anyways... It took me awhile to get past the vocals, he is getting weirder and crazier in his music but they are good tunes and entertaining. Who says laughing and thrash metal don't go together? He may be weird but he goes all out with it! 8)
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Ok well first off i will mention that yes i am a system fan and of course i am biased but i will explain a bit. First off that SNL showing was their first serious live showing for years you can't expect them to come out being intensely god like, if you listen to live showings later in the year you will see what i mean.Also about 1/5 of there songs are political the others i find to be philosophical despite a few which have utterly nonsensical lyrics. I myself listen to no British rock, emo , indie, or what not. My musical taste is odd so i cant talk for the majority, but from what i've heard System of a down is more talented than the majority of Metal bands. Plus they have been around for a great deal of time, their first albums are quite good too.
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Nobody EVER mentions CIGARO???? Why? That is the best song ever! Know why: cause MY COCK IS MUCH BIGGER THAN YOURS AND MY SHIT STINKS MUCH BETTER THAN YOURS!!!!!! LOL SOAD and SLIPKNOT are the BEST metal bands out there!!
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I fucking adore system of a down...
we all have our different tastes
personally I think the music itself is amazing. I think every member of the band is excellent.
Alot of my friends think they are getting prentenous now and that they are trying hard too hard to be different ...but i dont see it.
I've seen them at Download 05 and they were brillient performers
I aint into the fact its political (probaly down to my age (17) ) but It does give them an edge.
Same with rage against the machine but then again rage are alot better.
I love S.O.A.D :)
xxx
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i admit that acouple of their song's on the new ablum are weak
but relize you are doing nothing with you life whilest they are living it up
DOING IT ! ! ! !
you live in forums bashing people and music
while they are breaking ground for future metal bands
you don't like them?then just move on to some other gayass site
im sure thay're waiting 4 ya ! ! !
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anyone else notice on the SNL performance the entire audio cuts out EXCEPT the guitarists vocals for like, 2 seconds ? it appears they were lip synching ? it looks like the guitarist got mad pissed and screamed "FUCK YOU" knowing they wouldnt be prepared to cut it out in time.. just my observance!
As a side note I love Systems music but this was an awful performance!
http://www.lokeymusic.net
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Beep bop the skeet top
Ima about to need a skeet mop
feet stickin to the floor bout every where the skeet drop.
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ya whoever doesnt like SOAD is nuts ur al poser ass bitches who listen to gay ass Blink 182 adn shit if u were real rockers udd like them...."when you lose small mind you free your life"-aerialsSOADroCKSS!SSSSS!!SS!
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i dont care what anybody says about system...sure they are all about politics...but its makin us realize the truth a little bit isnt it? i didnt like their first album that much..but toxicity is kick ass along with mezmerize/hypnotize. i suggest listening to soldier side on hypnotize..it might tell you why these guys were pissed about the Armenian Genocide.
im out
SYSTEM OF A DOWN ROCKS!!!!!
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ok ur all a bunch of fucking softies who have never heard of hard rock or rock n roll system of a down is amazing ok byob on snl was the worst performance they ever had ever and hell no they werent lip synicing u ass that was just the worst performance and he didnt say fuck you ya dumb bitch he said fuck yeah
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they arent bi-polar they just change their music alot. whats wrong with that. i wouldnt do the same exact thing the whole time that would be boring as hell so they change it up so ppl like them and they kicked ass when they did aerials. i saw them in september and they were fucking amazing ya they havent done a concert in years
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I recently say system play live and thought they were fucking awesome. Anyone who thinks they suck must be fucking retarded. Why would Ozzy one of the most influential pioneers of metal invite a poser band to playon his tour. Oh I know he wouldn't. All you people who hate System probably listen to fucking Fall Out Boy and Bowling For Soup. Fuck all SOAD haters.
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they're tottally an aquired taste, but i love em ... at least they try to be honest and toxicity was awesome
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Gatrios - you are a fucking genius. Arcade Fire are shit. I haven't heard system of a down - but I will go and buy the albums now. I'll have to delete some mp3s off my laptop to do it. I think I'll start with funeral, and their ain't much chance of survival for the Neon Bible, cos it's indulgent crap mixed with overrated springsteen rip off. I salute you sir.
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I came across this doing a search on why Noel Gallagher said that about SOAD. Huh...I believe the record shows that despite their massive commercial success, Oasis has been a critical failure. I agree. Tons and tons of songs that all sound the same. I hear a System of a Down song and I can fucking name it. SOAD is amazing, creative, and truly unique. I can't think of any band save for maybe Apex Theory that can be stylistically compared to them.
Oasis = overhyped Mancunian shit + a carton of cowboy-killers a day
And what's with the Arcade Fire hating? Funeral is one the best albums I've ever listened to. If you listen to it, beginning to end, and don't hear the fucking emotion in the songs, you need to be psychoanalyzed. And *don't* group them with shit like Death Cab and Bright Eyes who can't even spell introspection.
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fuck haters
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All of you who talk shit about system of a down are freakin retarded. System is one of the few mainstream bands doing something different and original. Like Andre 3000 says: "If it dont stank like they stank then they cant swallow it down." I guess they just dont sound enough like what you think things should sound like, so you dont understand it, and therefore dont like it. They are one of the best bands around right now, hands down.
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