Third Eye Blind Respond To Bitchy Stereogum Post
Late last week we set off a firestorm by sharing a reader e-mail about Third Eye Blind's "Non-Dairy Creamer," a new song we agreed was "pretty much golden in all the worst ways" and wanted you to hear if only because it quoted M.I.A.'s "Paper Planes." We had never blogged about Third Eye Blind on this site previously, but are always happy to indulge in alt-rock nostalgia. So far the post has over 200 comments for and against the song! (Many of them written by two people, but still.) We got word the other day that lead singer/songwriter Stephan Jenkins even chimed in, though no one acknowledged him. So we invited Mr. Jenkins to set the record straight and clarify his intentions with regard to "Non-Dairy Creamer"...
The great thing about music is that it brings all types of people together, and I remain astonished at the capacity of lyrics to move things. Don't know why 3eb's lyrics have been so controversial in the past -- they are about as racy as your current novel. Most importantly, I continue to be inspired by our audience, which is mostly college kids. While we as a band try to move past politics, I personally had been on the campaign trail in a grass roots fashion for many months supporting Obama, which leads me to this song.
In regards to "Non-Dairy Creamer," indeed humor is the intent, both musically and lyrically. I've felt provoked and poisoned by our politics and culture in the last few years. I wanted to amplify that provocation with some irony and take a knock at some of these fear-based phrases like "threat level orange." All kinds of hypocrisy in current headlines then popped into my head and I rhymed em. I meant for it to be a hoot (though I know it has some teeth). Bombastic humor being the balm to move past a pretty nasty period.
Something like that. I'm not very good at talking about my own stuff. Wish I tossed some jokes in here as well, but my humor always tends towards too dry and dark. There's no topping the KFC hat -- they could have their own line!
Stephan
Thanks Stephan. Does that change anyone's opinion of the song? What if we told you Third Eye Blind pals around with terrorists?
The Red Star EP is out now and you can stream the whole thing at MySpace.
Posted at 2:21 PM by Scott
Tags: Barack Obama | Third Eye Blind
It doesn't change my opinion of the song -- but it's a sane and rational explanation. At least he didn't respond in a Kevin-Barnes-type rant: "Selling out is impossible. I LOVE CAPITALISM. Now let me show you my penis. I'm so depressed."
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LOL. This is a position I can live with.
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And I'd like to take a moment to acknowledge the phenomenal work of drummer Brad (also of Year Long Disaster), guitarist Tony, and Arion, as well as Leo, and, of another era, Kevin. Snowboarding in Aspen over Christmas last year, and seeing you guys at the Belly Up Aspen, was sick. Great memories.
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this doesnt change my personal view of the song...i actually really love it, the political humor in it is something i've never seen them do before, & whats so wrong with stephan saying his personal view? stephan doesnt hang out with terrorists, he has a point of view!! deal with it!!
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THIS SAWNG MAKE ME TALK RETAWRDED.
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this song is so much deeper than you think,
its deeper than "KFC" and "young gay republicans."
you all epitomize the ignorant and hippocritical society this song is about.
you make me sick.
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Totally on-board with you Marissa...I am an independent and conservative on some issues, but clearly saw that Jenkins was making a satirical comment on the state of every side of politics and culture in the United States...some good, some bad, and something that needs to be poked fun at in order not to go insane with the hypocrisy and lack of accountability of people, but politicians and people from every generation (although people younger than me-I am 26-tend to be the least educated sounding bunch I have ever heard...open a philosophy book, history book ect ect and educate yourselves because if you don't you will always sound like idiots...)
I have followed 3eb since self-titled and Jenkins has always had song themes that have been controversial- Semi-Charmed Life their first big hit is a song people sing along to without realizing the dark and dirty meaning...not just to be dark and dirty...but to make a point...Adam Duritz is the same, just in a milder way...so yeah...love 3EB because they make an effort to make music that means something...
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i think the song is fuckin awesome
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If the response had been, "Whatever, I wrote a song, what of it?" that would be worth something.
That would have been worth something.
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I'm still gonna go with "horrible."
Sadly, my first show as a dumb, youthful high school kid was a Third Eye Blind show. I had nothing to compare it to but still knew it blew. Eve 6 sucks, but they still opened and stole the show.
I've been to hundreds of shows now, and I still recall it as one of the worst. Ever.
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You are joking right?
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Isn't Barack Obama like 6'2"? Stephan Jenkins is a tall motherfucker. I certainly wouldn't tell him that his song sucks to his face lest he'd crush me into a fine non-dairy creamer like powder.
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yay for the commenter with the mcnulty pic!
i loved me some 3eb in high school.
all i'm taking from this post is that barack obama wears wifebeaters.
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read it with the lisp, it's 3 doors down times funnier.
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THERE DOORS DOWN IS TEH SUXXORR! LULZ
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lol. some people are so funny (see: chris S).
third eye blind are/were a pretty good band who knew how to write an intelligent and catchy powerpop song (see: self-titled). contrary to the suppositions of mr. Chris S, they are also an excellent live band. the minor problem i had with their later work was a tendency to take themselves a bit too seriously. yeah, on its own, "NDC" is a pretty ridiculous song, but I'm glad that the guy's retained an (for me, at least) endearing sense of humor.
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Hey Stereogum, I don't know what you mean when you write that "nobody acknowledged him." If you read the comment directly below his, I ask kindly asked him to elaborate on the song and even appreciated the fact that he had a sense of humor about the entire situation.
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I missed that because you didn't use the Reply link!
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No worries, just wanted to point that out. I am surprised other people didn't know it was really him. I could tell by the way he was a good sport about it and poked fun at the photo of him in the KFC hat (which had been removed for days at that point and replaced with the Col. Sanders picture.)
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Yeah I wasn't satisfied w/ my Photoshop, but I put the original pic back or his comment would make no sense.
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Nice of him to drop by and explain. He's a smart guy, perhaps he should work on his humor. Read some of his other lyrics - songs like "darkness", "god of wine" "motorcycle drive by" are genius. God of Wine: http://www.elyrics.net/read/t/third-eye-blind-lyrics/god-of-wine-lyrics.html
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Oh, it's an anti-bush/pro obama song?
well hell yes, I like it now.
What a great song.
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so everybody was taking it too seriously.. imagine that. nice of him to respond, and it was a pretty good explanation.
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"Wish I tossed some jokes in here as well, but my humor always tends towards too dry and dark."
No wonder I still can't figure out what's so funny or great about the song's punchline.
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Anyone ever read that interview Stephan Jenkins did with Jim DeRogatis where he tried to claim his band was the most DIY group since Fugazi?
It's pretty much impossible to take anything this dude says seriously.
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Hey,
Isn't a band a singular entity? Shouldn't the title of this post be "Third Eye Blind Responds ..." instead?
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lol, some people are so funny (looking at you, Chris)
third eye blind are/were a pretty good band who write some great, catchy powerpop songs. also, contrary to mr. Chris S.'s suppositions, they are an excellent live band. the problems I had with their later work was a tendency to take themselves a bit too seriously. taken on its own, "NDC" is pretty ridiculous, but i'm pleased to see that Jenkins has retained an (for me, at least) endearing sense of humor.
also, in the other thread, that dude k2 is just a total clown. it's not the fact that you dislike the band that's bothersome, but rather your insistence on adherence to a certain ridiculous ethos; being on a major label and being on the radio is not equivalent to "selling out." not everything you hear on the radio is garbage (quite the opposite, in fact - there's plenty of good stuff there), just like not all black people steal televisions for a living. you sound less like someone who loves and knows music than a fourteen year old girl who's a big blink-182 fan, upset that certain people "sell out" and violate some imaginary punk-rawk ethos. grow up, dude.
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My favorite band of all-time is This Heat. My favorite band still functioning is the Boredoms. My favorite relatively new/young bands are, in no particular order, Ecstatic Sunshine, Abe Vigoda, and Telepathe. Few to none of my favorite bands get played on the radio, which, because of its need to attract a generally broad series of listening demographics, is very focus-grouped music ... music that isn't "too" long or "too" unusual doesn't get on the radio often unless it has entered the fickle annals of "classic" status, and even then, those songs usually have hooks and choruses. I'm thinking of Stairway and Freebird, two songs I'm not nuts about either, because they're still pretty normal. Hard rock and metal stations show a little more freedom, but radio metal [as opposed to the underground] is continuously less innovative, thirty years after the invention. Point being, you're not hearing Sister Ray or Soft Machine's Moon in June on the radio.
How we define "good" is based on how much we've heard and thought about. If someone thinks of music as just something that passes in the background or is to be hummed along with, they're not likely to really dig beneath the surface and will be happy with a couple nice melodies. There currently is an odd mix of "hip" aesthetic with Beatles-esque pop [come oddly to life in the late output of Modest Mouse, MGMT, Feist, Of Montreal, other "indie" pop] and I can stomach it, but definitely don't like it. The most interesting sounds on the radio to me are hiphop music, but a lot of it seems accidental and goes away too quickly. I do listen to the radio occasionally, mostly for sounds to sample from hiphop tracks and to see just how overblown rock and top 40 have become.
If there are some other specific artists on the radio you think are particularly interesting, I'd be into knowing their names. If I haven't heard them, I'll listen.
I also have no idea why or how you tied race into my comments about first-album major label artists inherently accepting some degree of compromise in their art. Artists who do not have a following yet simply don't have the clout to control their own careers, by and large. 3eb were on of those bands [they immediately courted major label attention with their early demos, before being signed to a major in the mid-90s, a very traditional approach, but certainly not the most artistically sincere one] and like many of those bands, the art quickly fell apart. That has nothing to do with race. Frankly, not knowing my race, I'm a little offended by your own assumptions.
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you should go outside...
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I wrote that at like 3 a.m. and I live where it's cold right now. Can't do much outside. Gotta make due yo.
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And I guess because you know so much more about music than everyone else, there is nothing good enough for you. What a pathetic view of music. What a troubling way to go through life. I don't know, but I think there's a medical procedure out now to help a guy pull a two-by-four out of his ass. It might provide enormous relief to you and help you begin to enjoy again one of the most joyous aspects of life.
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I don't think I know more about music than everyone else. I don't know much about pre-modern classical music or pop music before WWII. But I do think I know an okay amount about rock music, especially the past 50 years.
Most people have some speciality they spend a lot of time learning about. I bet you know ton more about economics than me [I think that's what you said you teach]. I don't know much about advanced mathematics or astrology or performing surgery or a ton of other stuff. But I've spent a lot of time on music, literature and art history. That's the stuff I spend most of the time thinking about and have since high school.
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post #1. you can't make fun of of montreal on a blog like this. didn't you get the memo?
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you're right, but it's mostly due to the fact they've made two of the decade's best albums of the past couple years.
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I think Stephan actually was responding to Michael_'s question in the response you posted Stereogum. He acknowledged Stephan's comment, but everyone looked that over too.
http://stereogum.com/archives/third-eye-blind-submit-nondairy-creamer-to-worst-s_035731.html#comment-1933662
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Stephen seems like a stand-up guy, which I respect. Third Eye Blind has had some good songs in the past (for what the band is trying to go for--Pop/Rock, and you should judge a band on what they are trying to do), but lyrics have never been his strongsuit. He's got a flair for the catchy melody, and those particular phrases that stand out even if they don't make sense with anything around it (like a Palin speech): . Whether you like his lyrics or not, I think everyone will readily admit that their songs get stuck in your head. Even 'Non-Dairy Creamer.'
However, 'Non-Dairy Creamer' is probably the worst and funniest thing I've ever heard at the same time in my life. It's like getting really high and then pounding 6 shots of whiskey. I think Takeru Kobayashi feels like this song after he eats all those hot dogs. I'll admit I'm completely obsessed with the song. My friends are starting to worry. That part where they are call and answering non-dairy creamer....and then the gay republicans chant comes in...it's something I would expect a teenager writing his third song to write, and every time I hear it I laugh hysterically. I can't imagine him explaining to his guitar player: "And right here I'll sing non-dairy, and you go non-dairy and I'll go creamer and you go creamer."
I know how it is to sit down and come up with some lyrics and think you're writing a great song, but hopefully you take a step back realize it's not inherintly good. You can't all have winners for sure. Sometimes you hope the melody and instrumentation can take over and make it great. It sure as hell worked for Nirvana to rhyme stuff and make it seem like it means something--but you'll see Kobain never said anything that was direct (he was about energy anyway if you read his journals but that's getting off the subject). The more direct you are the more careful you have to be with what you are saying, and this song is completely direct in a childish way. And it's not KFC because it's not chicken--Yum Brands changed it because of the bad connotations of the word "fried" just like how "prunes" are "dried plums." The opening line of the song really tests your intelligence to let you know what's coming next.
Maybe it's funny because I haven't heard a winner from Third Eye Blind in a long time. You'll let an artist get away with some bad shit--uhm, the first thing that comes to mind is Lennon and some of that Yoko stuff, that was bad--but if Lennon's gonna turn around and write 'Instant Karma' then that's fine. Where's Third Eye Blind's Instant Karma? And do we even mention how the song sounds so similar to How's it Gonna Be? Is that particular melody part of some grander scheme--like how you could hear some of Ziggy Stardust in early albums, or parts of Tommy earlier--that he keeps revamping it time and again? Is all this building up to something?
It's like this guy in art school I new named Phil. He had this photo project where he took poop out of the toilet and spelled P O O P on the wall. This song kind of reminds me of Phil's project-because he had a lot of intent there (in Phil's case the intent to SHOCK)--but the execution of that intent is laughable. This song doesn't know whether to be 'We Didn't Start the Fire' or 'American Pie' or 'Like a Rolling Stone' and it ends up being a piece of P O O P.
And I speak to you like the chorus to the verse
Chop another line like a coda with a curse
It seems like one of those songs where they finished the music for it and then he put the vocals on top. Sometimes that can work. But the risk is if you can't come up with a melody or any good lyrics, you've got a great recording of a song with shitty vocals/lyrics. And you would never have recorded it because the song itself isn't good--but since all you've got to do is put vocals on it you do it and release it. I've been there. It's kind of a backwards way of working--most of the time you want the song to work on a basic level with guitar/piano/whatever and vocals before you spend the time recording it. Sometimes it does work though. I'd like to know the whole process of where this song went, and ask Third Eye Blind to switch up that process so that they can get out of the "writer's block" that Stephen seems to be in (his words). I'd rather not make fun of him personally, because he seems like a cool guy, but let's break down this song like a Music Workshop. I want to help Third Eye Blind or at least have Third Eye Blind help itself.
If they're gonna market something--The Real Contest they should throw is if someone can come up with better lyrics for this song. Have it mean the same thing--kind of an American Pie/Like a Rolling Stone/We Didn't Start the Fire/type critique of our current seemingly perilous situation. That's a good song theme. It seems like these lyrics were the first ones he jotted down on a sheet of paper--without any edits (or maybe one or two scratchouts here or there)--and this one definitely needed more work. I hope I see that lyric sheet in liner notes somewhere someday. I'm thinking I'm gonna see a coffee cup ring and a little discoloration from some.........NON-DAIRY CREAMER!
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calm down sugartits
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I can't believe you wrote so much about this terrible song and burnt out band.
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Not it and I wash my hands of this.
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Nice manifesto there Theodore Kaczynski.
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Buddy, cut me some slack. It's not me, and I'll swear that on whatever holy object or my life if that gets the point across. The debate is over, and even me and DeadRussianAuthor came to an agreement at the end of it.
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wooo streetlight!
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"Lyrics have never been his strongsuit." *rollseyes*
'The village churchyard is filled with bones weeping in the grave
The silver lining of clouds shines on people Jesus couldn't save
You wanna know how deeply my sould goes
Deeper than bones, deeper than bones...'
'Icarus is not a tee shirt or a swan song, no
He is born again and, it's not easy being me
but I can't promise I will mend
Or bend when you believe that
we are fixed now from our birth
And I've just fallen back to earth
Still you know I'll try again
Cause I believe that we are lucky, we are golden
We have stolen manners in the days when we were one'
'Visions of you on a motorcycle drive by
The cigarette ash flies in your eyes
And you don't mind, you smile.
And say the world, it doesn't fit with you
I don't believe you, you're so serene
Careening through the universe
Your axis on a tilt, you're guiltless and free
I hope you take a piece of me with you'
'I can't forget the smell
Of summer trees at midnight
Bending backwards to please the wind
You touch the tattoo of the sun
On a warm belly that once carried a baby for a while
Then let that crackled leather jacket round you fold
Red faced saints monogrammed in gold
And in this beauty I would not go any further
Cause I suddenly remember
We can't live this way forever'
'Back down the bully to the back of the bus
Cause it's time for them to be scared of us'
Shall I go on? Speak for yourself man. Myself and every Third Eye Blind fan listens to them overwhelmingly FOR the lyrics, which are amazing. Non-Dairy Creamer is ridiculous and I'd rather it was never released, but, it's whatev.
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"Lyrics have never been his strongsuit." *rollseyes*
'The village churchyard is filled with bones weeping in the grave
The silver lining of clouds shines on people Jesus couldn't save
You wanna know how deeply my soul goes
Deeper than bones, deeper than bones...'
'Icarus is not a t-shirt, or a swan song no
He is born again
And it's not easy being me
But I can't promise I will mend
Or bend when you believe that
we are fixed now from our birth
And I just fallen back to earth
Still you know I'll try again
Cause I believe that we are lucky, we are golden
We have stolen manners in the days when we were one'
'Visions of you on a motorcycle drive-by
The cigarette ash flies in your eyes
and you don't mind, you smile
And say the world it doesn't fit with you
I don't believe you, you're so serene
Careening through the universe, your axis on a tilt
You're guiltless and free
I hope you take a piece of me with you'
'I can't forget the smell
of summer tress at midnight
Bending backwards to please the wind
You touch the tattoo of the sun on a warm belly
that once carried a baby for a while
And let that crackled leather jacket round you fold
Red faced saints monogrammed in gold
And in this beauty I would not go any further
Cause I suddenly remember
We can't live this way forever'
'Back down the bully to the back of the bus
Cause it's time for them to be scared of us'
Shall I go on? Speak for yourself man. Myself and every Third Eye Blind fan I know listen to them overwhelmingly FOR the lyrics, which are amazing. I wish Non-Dairy Creamer had never seen the light of day but what can you do?
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DEADRUSSIANMICHAEL_AUTHORK2 WANTS YOU TO CONTINUE BITCHING ABOUT CRITICAL MATTERS SUCH AS WHETHER OR NOT 3EB WILL COOK YOU BREAKFAST IN BED WHEN YOU'RE HUNGOVER
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Travis: "lyrics have never been his strongsuit." are you kidding me? have you ever read some of his lyrics? You should really look at 3eb's self titled album - actually just look at any of their albums.
From Good man:
And how do you do it when I'm overwhelmed by a violet sky
And we fly in decayed orbit 66 thousand miles an hour goes by
When we kissed, and only now do I feel your mouth
Like an ache you never knew
And it was right in front of you
How do you do it, roots in the soil untangled
Releasing in sweet summer oil still I recoil like mace
In all the little moments I pushed you away that I can't erase
Cause every moment overflows with power, 66 thousand miles an hour
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I had the same reaction to his comment, but I think quoting a set of lyrics is detrimental to the point you're tying to make. They're not as good out of context (no lyrics are!) but Jenkins is a very good songwriter.
By the way, the post we're referring to was very well-written, wtg on that one. Obviously most of the people here are gonn respond with "lol wtf tldr!", but it kinda gets my goat that people are so blindly dismissive of any band with more than twelve myspace views. Is 3eb as good as deerhunter? No - they didn't make the best record this year like they did. But do they deserve the Nickelback treatment? No, absolutely not.
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With the lyrics comment, I was going along the lines that, generally speaking, and I mean really generally speaking, that for the most part you're not going to listen to Third Eye Blind because of their lyrics. To bring up one of the best (because it's the easiest) Dylan--you WOULD listen to him because of his lyrics. Would Dylan have gotten to where he is on his voice and harmonica playing if he were to have written poor songs? Third Eye Blind--the vocal strengths are in the energy and delivery of the voice, it has a slight percussive nature in the verses usually more elongated during the choruses. Basically--what made Third Eye Blind rise above all the other bands that are out there? Something (we could start a different post). In my opinion, it's not the lyrics (for the most part). The vocals apart from the lyrics are unique. Jenkins could probably replace some of his song's lyrics, sing the same melodies, and the songs would be just as listenable. What happened in Non-Dairy Creamer is that the lyrics and concept were so far out there and off the mark, even the strong suits of the song couldn't overcome it.
I feel that with Non-Dairy Creamer and Third Eye Blind, they're not a band in the making. This song isn't experimental and taken them to a new place or sound, which could give them more room for failure. This song firmly fits in their catalog, it's where they've been before, and it's a poor rendition of what makes them unique as a band. It's a watered down poor tasting version of what they've done before. It is one song however--but that's what this post is about--Non-Dairy Creamer--rather than their dedicated career or their hit songs.
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Well said, and you're OTM about it being a poor example of their craft because well, it's a classic Jenkins melody (and to tell you the truth, the lyrics IN THEORY aren't that far off from his usual way of going about things). It just doesn't work that well, and it means nothing more to me than that. It's an admirable failure, though, because in the end it's just plain funny and silly and fun.
That said, I don't have a problem with Stereogum running the original post about the song being bad, because that's their job as a music blog. A little snarky, but that's cool, and it was funny. At least they took an actual opinion on the matter; my problem lay with the 100+ people whose comments more or less boiled down to "lol radio band CREED." It's a little depressing that so few people were capable of 1) thinking for themselves or 2) any kind of analysis or perspective. It's cool though, and I realize these threads aren't meant for actual discourse 90% of the time.
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are you kidding those are terrible lyrics
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I always have ..."mad props"... for anyone who gives their side of the argument in response to a stupid mass internet rant. In all seriousness, I would recommend their debut album to anyone who has already damned them based on the new song. It's surprisingly good.
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WTF WIGGINS? ROFL
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WTF WIGGINS? ROFL
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I can't wait for when we start debating over the new Matchbox 20, Smash Mouth and Verve Pipe songs!
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Matchbox Twenty > Radiohead
most of you probably think I'm joking.
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matchbox 20, smash mouth, and verve pipe aren't even in the same league as third eye blind. People who make these comments/comparisons have no idea about third eye blind (unfortunately non dairy creamer is a horrible example). If people would just dive into the lyrics and give the song more than one listen, they'd see a lot more. Ok, i'm done.
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What particular traits make 3eb "of more value" than
A.) Smash Mouth
B.) The Verve Pipe
and C.) Matchbox Twenty
I don't even necessarily disagree with you [those other bands are pretty terrible]. I just want to see your logic.
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As far as comparing Third Eye Blind to Matchbox 20, smash mouth, and the verve pipe, the biggest difference is in the lyrics. As people have pointed out with snippets of 3eb lyrics they are dynamic and deep where as MB20 and smash mouth (can't say too much about verve pipe because i'm not too familiar with their work) are shallow and in my opinion especially with smash mouth just awful. Songs like "allstar" are just shameful. Also the vocal delivery and overall sound from smashmouth's lead singer (who's name escapes me at the moment) are some of the worst I've heard. His writing abilities are seriously lacking (albeit catchy at times). MB20 to me are just blah. A lot of the same content in song after song and a lot of their stuff just runs together. I don't exactly dislike MB20, but i also don't think they hold a candle musically and lyrically to 3eb (non-dairy creamer being the exception). No offense if you are a fan, we all have our tastes.
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Nah, definitely not a fan of any of those bands.
I'll give you the voice, but to me, the lyrical content might as well be the same. It's simply commercial window dressing to me. At the core, they seem to be three groups that write songs with normal voicings/note patterns and traditional rock setups, with traditional structures and traditional ways of playing instruments. Actually, as sad as it is to say this, Smash Mouth seem to be the least "traditional" of the three, in that they liberally borrow and sample riffs to create songs. However, in my opinion, it's almost depressing to have a discussion about these bands as remotely serious.
I guess my point was: none of them do much to defy convention and their hits fit neatly into their place in pop-rock history, as opposed to truly unusual pop hitmakers like say, Devo or King Missile.
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Jenkins lyrical prowess or lack thereof aside. Kevin Cadogan's guitar work on the debut far outshine anything put forth by any member, or output in general of Smashmouth or Snatchbox 20
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oh hey wow can't wait until everyone stops talking about this
i mean what an incendiary issue! a shitty new song by has-been 90s pop group third eye blind!
this site continues to be so cutting edge!
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Verve Pipe? How do you people even recall such inconsequential ephemera? If not for this comment thread I don't think I would have ever thought of that band again. Or 3EB, for that matter. The mid/late 90s were terrible on so many levels...
Anyway, this whole 3EB nonsense has been extremely hilarious. Definitely one for the Wayback machine.
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nothing to do with the post, really, but what the hell is wrong with Obama's upper shirtfront in this pic?
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he's wearing a wife beater underneath. squares do it that way. not hip kids with their nipples showing.
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Personally, I think the song is great. I purchased the new EP and would rate it 6 stars out of 5. I don't see why so many people are crying over the lyrics... Music is art, and art is self expression. Every artist is going to receive criticism on their work, no matter how "great" they are. Regardless of their lyrics, they are extremely talented.
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Politician. On newspaper seemingly asked his press office to which they said "roughly 6ft 1".
Singer from Third Eye Blind, said in TeenJa "I'm six-foot-two and 185 pounds"
(Cited from celebheights.com)
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Well there you have it. It is amazing how just giving a man a chance to speak on behalf of his own work can disarm people -- literally. In a forum of open-minded, musically inclined people, and as a professor at a liberal arts college, I was quite shocked at how quickly and viciously people drew their weapons -- and, without thinking, fired. I am quite pleased by this outcome. Mr. Jenkins has inspired and entertained me for 10 years; I hope there are at least 10 more to come.
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most of you are talking about things you don't know a clue about:
lyrics was never stephan's strong point?!?? what the effff
most 3eb fans