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April 3, 2009

Pissy Pumpkins Unplug On Chris Isaak Hour

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Last night's Chris Isaak Hour featured Billy Corgan and his now departed bandmate Jimmy Chamberlin in a predictably petulant Q&A intercut with sweet acoustic performances to remind us why we still care about the Smashing Pumpkins. Along with their touring musicians, Chamberlin and a harmonica-playing Corgan were joined by horns and violin on four post-Zeitgeist tracks plus an Issak-assisted cover of "Nowhere Man." Isaak is a charming, able interviewer, getting the Smashing frontman to open up about the fans who hate their music, his dad who hates his singing, his former bandmates who have no talent, and Kurt Cobain who "wasn't necessarily the nicest person." Cobain and Corgan had a "strange" relationship, he says, because "the night I threw Courtney Love out of my apartment is the night she famously walked down the street and ended up in his bed." Chamberlin also makes some petty comments about former bandmates James Iha and Darcy Wretzky, claiming their only contribution to the band was "high fashion" and implying they didn't know how to play their instruments. The performance segments were more successful. Watch...

"Owata"

"99 Floors"

"The Rose March"

"Sunkissed"

"Nowhere Man" (With Chris Isaak)

The Smashing Pumpkins - "Owata" (Chris Isaak Hour) (MP3)
The Smashing Pumpkins - "99 Floors" (Chris Isaak Hour) (MP3)
The Smashing Pumpkins - "The Rose March" (Chris Isaak Hour) (MP3)
The Smashing Pumpkins - "Sunkissed" (Chris Isaak Hour) (MP3)
The Smashing Pumpkins - "Nowhere Man (Feat. Chris Isaak)" (Chris Isaak Hour) (MP3)

Now we blame Chris Isaak for Chamberlin quitting the band, right? FYI drummer auditions have been pushed back to 4/14. Good luck everybody.

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I don't think that Billy is necessarily the nicest person.

Posted by: TheFlyAwayHair profile link at 04/03/09 6:06 PM  | Reply
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billy comes off as completely self-absorbed (surprise) and jimmy tries too hard to be funny, but goddamn - it's entertaining

Posted by: grover profile link at 04/03/09 6:11 PM  | Reply
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Wow, Corgan was bitching about other people? That's crazy. Next up, Billy takes on Tinted Windows

Can we get him to piss off Trent Reznor so Trent can rip him a new one a la Cornell?

Posted by: hellsbells53 profile link at 04/03/09 6:16 PM  | Reply
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You can't be a humble artist? What!?! Billy Corgan is nuts. Most artists are aware of the limitations of their art. They are aware that through their art they express a unique world view that may not be shared by everyone else. Many artists realize and appreciate the long legacy of music they derive their art from. They are also deeply aware that there are other artists more talented or that express themselves musically in a different but equally compelling way. You can be humble - and maybe humility is preferred.

Billy, please stop. You're ruining my 90s love of the Pumpkins every time you open your mouth or write a new song. And if you could quit calling your solo project the Smashing Pumpkins that would be awesome.

Posted by: Gramarye at 04/03/09 6:36 PM  | Reply
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For someone who doesn't know how to play his instrument, James Iha sure has been able to hold his own over the years in the several bands he's been in.

Posted by: Greg at 04/03/09 8:03 PM  | Reply
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haha yeah tinted windows is an amazing band.

Posted by: billy corgan  in reply to Greg's comment at 04/11/09 5:28 PM  | Reply
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You guys are straight up bad communicators. Sure, highlight the "headline worthy" quotes but please at least back them up and counteract them with the rest of the intelligent conversation instead of going straight for the fashionable kill. In this readers opinion, your story is nothing short of cheap, "hit" hungry BS. Shame on you.

Posted by: chris at 04/03/09 9:46 PM  | Reply
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Do you seriously expect anything else? Here's the real disconnect: this show was taped in the midst of a tour Stereogum repeatedly slagged, but now that they listen to some of the music they actually find it to be "sweet". (And for the record, yes, these songs were performed with the exact same acoustic instrumentation in concert.)

Posted by: jjb  in reply to chris's comment at 04/04/09 1:20 AM  | Reply
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i liked those performances though. it does remind me of when i used to care about the Pumpkins. I think i still do a little, i just ignore when Billy talks...

Posted by: stephen c berry at 04/04/09 2:56 AM  | Reply
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I listened to the songs on this post and they are really good. Cant people just listen and enjoy the music, get over the 90's the actual music is all you should care about. And why would you want a sane artist, the best musicians are always unstable or off-balance in some way, you have to be to do what they do. Hence this episode of the Chris Isaak hour was very entertaining. If they want to speak their minds and act as musicians then great.

The title of this article is inappropriate and not professional in my opinion, and in no way has Iha held his own over the years, because 95% of the general public still has no idea who he is. No offense to him, but his replacement guitarist Jeff is much more skilled as a guitar player.

Posted by: BitterRootOfSelf at 04/04/09 4:09 AM  | Reply
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the ideal of the mad genius is boring and contrived. besides, corgan isn't insane, he's just a douche who spends all his time shitting on his own legacy.

1979 changed my life, but fuck that guy.

Posted by: johnny at 04/04/09 2:26 PM  | Reply
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I never stopped caring about SP, and these 4 songs remind me why.
I will miss Jimmy, though.

Posted by: Jeff at 04/04/09 3:41 PM  | Reply
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I attended one of the NYC concerts and the problem wasn't the new acoustic songs (Wish he would release them, would make a really great EP) it was the self indulgent 10-15 minute clunkers that he insisted on playing, completely ruined the show for me an a lot of other people that I saw leave during the encore. The first half of the concert was like a 8.5, while the second half was around a 2.

Posted by: M.J. at 04/04/09 5:33 PM  | Reply
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I watched the show last night and was struck by how bored and angry all the supporting musicians appeared when playing.

Posted by: Paige K. Parsons at 04/04/09 6:20 PM  | Reply
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Is Corgan gonna ever decide to grow any hair again?

Posted by: SubSickAlien profile link at 04/04/09 7:05 PM  | Reply
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Who cares about your "legacy" this was a great performance in my opinion and great songs. It must suck to have people hold you to what you were in the 90's when you continue to make great songs, F that. This makes me appreciate these songs more. I was at a recent Chicago show of theirs and i didnt take notice of these songs because they played them after their 15 minute rock epics (or clunkers apparently??) which blew me away. I wish they would play one of those 10-15min songs on tv just once. Might shut people up.

Posted by: timbonius at 04/04/09 8:49 PM  | Reply
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I'm actually 26, but to see the pumpkins degenerate like this, I've grown older for plus 20 years. Saw them 2 years ago for the last time. I knew this would gonna lead nowhere.
Jimmy must feel so totally bored!

Posted by: Kalle at 04/05/09 4:10 PM  | Reply
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i think billy corgan shot kurt cobain.

i do think melancholy is a genius album, its just too bad that 90's bands have a hard time reviving things, i think billy has the capacity he just thinks it can be too easy now...

Posted by: fox Confessor at 04/05/09 7:02 PM  | Reply
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way to misconstrue the entire feeling of the whole interview.

Posted by: hairboy at 04/06/09 1:53 AM  | Reply
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I saw the real Pumpkins a couple of times. James Iha and Darcy Wretzky played just fine. timbonius, you are in the small minority. Corgan is a whiney washed up popstar. Go away Billy, just go away!

Posted by: jjazznola at 04/06/09 3:29 AM  | Reply
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Billy boo-boo should refrain from eating STEAK/dead animals. He may have less self loathing sans a cemetery in his stomach. I don't even get the SPs'???Who cares?Why am commenting?Bewlidered.

Posted by: Candy at 04/06/09 9:52 AM  | Reply
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Billy..Go back to Paul Chabala.Refresh.

Posted by: Bimbo at 04/06/09 9:59 AM  | Reply
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"The Rose March" - best!!!!

Posted by: Foo at 04/06/09 1:20 PM  | Reply
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15-minute clunkers? Man, in the 70's, people would have killed to hear Jimmy Page tear it up for 15 minutes, but when Corgan does it it's self-indulgent? This is the direction the Pumpkins have been moving since before the breakup, more prog, less pop. Their semi-acoustic songs are the only real catchy newer songs. The electric stuff is meant to melt your face off. I agree with timbonius that they should play Gossamer or I Am One pt. 2 just once on TV, so people all over can be like, "Wow, I get it."

Posted by: Jack Tripper at 04/06/09 2:51 PM  | Reply
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I tend to find all 10-15 minute songs purely indulgent and usually terrible. I like all off the pumpkins albums (Even Zeitgeist, Doomsday Clock and Thats The Way would be hits if they were on Mellon Collie) I just don't think the future of the Pumpkins reside in 15 minute songs that are only enjoyable if your on drugs. These acoustic songs are a MUCH better direction.

Posted by: MJA at 04/06/09 4:57 PM  | Reply
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He should audition singers instead of drummers.

Posted by: T at 04/07/09 5:34 PM  | Reply
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The sad thing about Billy Corgan is that his BEST album 'Adore' was completely derailed by critics and idiotic fans yelling 'play something HEAVY Billy?!!' at every show on that tour. 'Adore' is criminally underrated and should have been the beginning of a new excting cycle for the Pumpkins - instead Billy did a Rivers Coumo and tried to please everyone on subsequent releases and just got caught in the middle of nowhere.

Sad reallly..

Posted by: WalterDisney profile link at 04/08/09 12:44 AM  | Reply
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"Chamberlin also makes some petty comments about former bandmates James Iha and Darcy Wretzky, claiming their only contribution to the band was "high fashion" and implying they didn't know how to play their instruments."

Which is precisely why they were AWESOME. I love their old performances where James Iha's guitar was turned way too loud and he just thrashed away sloppily. That made me want to be a musician. Now, it's like watching some prog band covering old Smashing Pumpkins songs. LAME

Posted by: Jeff at 04/08/09 11:11 AM  | Reply
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I wonder how many of you sad people could even muster a split hairs' amount of the talent that Billy corgan has. Piss off.

Posted by: Rende Young at 04/08/09 7:24 PM  | Reply
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Riight.
We shouldn't be allowed to have opinions about art unless they are favorable... or if we're at least as talented as Billy Corgan.

Well, I'm more talented. I am just not terribly creative or driven. I'm allowed to call b-boy a twat now... right?

Posted by: FlimFlam  in reply to Rende Young's comment at 04/09/09 3:49 PM  | Reply
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I have listened to SP since Siamese Dream. I quit listening at Melancholy, because at the time I thought that the band went down the wrong road. I also quit listening to them because of a shitty concert at Bloomington, (also during the Siamese tour). Years later I started listening to the back catalog again and I remembered why I listened in the first place. Machina I and II are genius, hell I even like Billy's solo album and Zwan. I am going to miss Jimmy however. All the naysayers here can kiss my ass, yea Billy's an ass, but he is a sure shitted talented ass. His guitar playing has more soul than I have heard in a long time. VIVA LA PUMPKINS!

Posted by: Bryan Park at 04/10/09 10:17 AM  | Reply
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I watched this episode and didn't find either of them to be particularly 'pissy'. There may have been a few snide remarks (mainly from Jimmy), but they seemed to be somewhat tongue in cheek. Seemed like a fairly candid and honest recount of the past from both of them. Billy seemed visibly upset like he was about to cry when talking about the way James supposedly treated him.

Posted by: Lonnie Pigford at 04/11/09 11:21 AM  | Reply
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I wish Chris Isaak hadn't insisted on getting up on stage with the Pumpkins to waste our time with yet another straightforward Beatles cover. There's a tad bit of "ego" going on there. If he hadn't, the Pumpkins might have had time to perform the new "Song for a Son" (typically played in a set along with the other new acoustic numbers they did).

Posted by: Grant V at 04/11/09 10:00 PM  | Reply
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i like how corgan and chamberlain pretty much just got two ppl who look like james iha and Darcy Wretzky. well...when u cant have the real ones might as well clone em'!!

Posted by: peter at 04/17/09 10:14 AM  | Reply
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