Vivian Girls Hate Your Coworkers • In this Uncensored Interview, the Girls extol the virtues of the punk community, realize that non-punk people "are really shitty and suck a lot," and definitely are not fans of coworkers who get drinks at T.G.I. Fridays. It's good cubicle procrastination. Also they really just want you to write a good song. And they have a lot more to say if you want. UPDATE: Vivian Girls respond.
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Wow. i had no idea it was possible to completely agree with someone and have complete and utter contempt for them at the same time...i mean, they just come off as petty and almost dare i say, jealous, of the TGIF happy hour crowd?
Score = 16
disclaimer: i am totally jealous of their ocean of love when they go on tour and wish i could write a song good enough for them
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they want *other people* to write good songs? that is some pot/kettle/black shit right there.
Score = 17
I like that drum beat they hate. A lot. It's the only one I can do.
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I love it when girls call everything gross. And by love I mean hate.
Score = 6
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft all the coworkers they hate raised them and me and all our indie rock friends. those jobs with those coworkers probably sent a lot of us to college at pratt too.
Score = 23
After seeing that interview I now feel like an asshole for liking their record. Breaks my heart that one of my favorite albums this year was apparently made by vapid human wastelands.
Score = 5
I like hate it when like someone is like trying to like make a point and all i hear is like.
Score = 19
Wow I feel stupider after watching those video's. I remember girls acting like that when I was in elementary school.
Score = 4
BTDubs, Vivian Girls are from suburban New Jersey, though you'd never know it from their press material, or asking them about it.
Score = 5
what a bunch of, like, incoherent cunts.
Score = 32
that's like, totally what i was going to say, co-worker
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this makes me want to delete all of my vivian girls last.fm scrobbles.
Score = 7
If you substitute "awkward and homely but secretly artistic girls" for "punk community" and "popular cheerleaders" for "normal people" it makes a bit more sense.
Yay left-over resentment from High School!
Score = 13
Anyone wanna get a blooming onion after work?
Score = 17
thats not tgif's, thats outback! haha!
who are the vivian girls?
Score = 5
i'm deleting the one decent vivian girls song i downloaded for free. i don't think i like valley girl punk anymore.
Score = 3
they do come off as really pretentious in the coworkers interview. but to truthful, i have some disdain for that crowd only because i know a few too many who are in their 30s/40s, like going to bennigans/tgi fridays getting trashed, hitting on the 18-21 year old servers, then driving home to their wives/families drunk. talk about how if they were my age they would have sex with so many girls. it's really really not a good crowd.
Score = 1
Yuck. There isn't much worse than combining a shameless abuse of the word "like" and the type of judgmental stereotyping exercised here. I still like a couple of their songs as well as their contribution to the Fucked Up album, but I want to revoke my vote for Cassie Ramone as my indie crush...
Score = 3
What unattractive personalities. Good thing they'll be gone in no time since "coworkers" and "normal people" will never buy their brand of crap
fucking bitches
Score = 4
byop < vivian girls
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byop > vivian girls
fixed
Score = 11
thank you
Score = 7
I suspect the Vivian Girls have not spent much time faking it in the cubical as their criticisms of “normal” people are fairly cliché.
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why the fuck would you be propelled to delete all the music of a band that you like just because of an interview that you saw of them acting like dumb asses? im sorry to say but if you judge your music tastes by the personalities of the people that make it, you are going to have to reconsider A LOT of shit that you listen to. yes the interview was a little disappointing as it showed a personal side to the band that was if anything embarrassing for them, but that should be no reason to suddenly dislike the music they make,
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haha i love how by the third post of yours that didn't show up on the page RIGHTAWAYOMG, you were so frustrated that you wrote your name in caps.
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youre right. because by common sense alone, my pushing a submit button when posting a comment and having it not submit afterwards would obviously mean that my opinions are therefore completely irrelevant and instead only subject to ridicule by somebody much more keen to how the internet and this website specifically works. i suppose someday ill learn though. really though im more amused by your lack of response towards the actual content of my comment. id really like to know your thought on the matter...
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you're one of those folks that takes their posts really seriously and comes back, guns blazing, to see if there have been any retorts, aren't you?
or maybe you're just a robot. how about a nice game of chess?
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It's true, they are so not social outcasts! In fact, I went to the same high school as Kickball Katy and it's in a very affluent North Jersey suburb. A TOTALLY NONCONFORMIST North Jersey suburb, but still.
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aaggh. grow up. this idea that "normal" people are assholes and "punks" are all nice is pathetic. there are nice "normals" and nice "punks" and asshole "normals" and asshole "punks." once the adolescent concept of the "authenticity" of a subculture is gotten over they met realize this. jesus didn't you even watch slc punk?
Score = 13
i'm just glad no one is trying to defend that. good job everybody, you are decent human beings. sidenote their success baffles me entirely
Score = 8
i know its quite stupid to change your opinion of someone's music based on their personality or personalities in this case but its going to be tough to enjoy their record like i have been and not think of this horrible interview. im sure if they watch this interview they will be embarassed for themselves, at least i hope so. those is some ugly ugly people.
Score = 1
They are so gross and unappealing they almost make me want to go gay.
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they should move to portland, there's a sphere unto itself of "hipper than thou all we know is this barista punk i'm in a band lifestyle and everything else, like, sucks" bullshit perspective on life
Score = 6
They sound like caricatures. Or twelve year olds.
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Ha, who knew the Vivian Girls were actually Valley Girls? Oh but they swear they're so punk, how cute. FYI, I love me some dance beats in indie rock bands.
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I saw them play a show in a basement a few months ago. They only played about 25 minutes because a new episode of Project Runway was about to start and they had to run upstairs to go watch it. True story.
Score = 15
Well the ugly girls* never get invited out for drinks at TGI Fridays, so they become bitter as a result of their rejection by normal people. They then have to become "artistic" to find acceptance, generally from people who are also ugly, have drug problems, or are severely emotionally damaged. Unfortunately, the girls have no talent so they can only make "punk" music, where talent is not a prerequisite, but instead frowned upon as inauthentic.
*ok, the redhead's pretty
Score = -11
How silly. If they're going to be so strident and elitist with their punk ideology, then I think they would have to consider that "faking it" at a job with cubicles would pretty much preclude your ability to be punk.
Besides, making watered down throwback-style punk rock is sooo not punk anymore.
And also, it's completely normal to turn against musicians because of their ideals. A lot (A LOT) of people to this day still won't listen to Wagner because of his Nazi leanings.
Score = 3
Ha, that (Wagner mention) reminds me of an episode of CYE.
P.S. The new drummer is a fucking moron. Bring back Frankie!
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Judaism? Where are you judaism??
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and those people are idiots. wagner was a documented anti-semite, but just about everybody in Europe was. his music was revolutionary and brilliant, despite his poor choice of hegemonic bigotry.
sigh.
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typical Jersey retards!! try harder
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ok... we get it, you're pretty good album is better than any of our lives
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dumb betches
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Sick of disco beats in indie rock? What is this, 2004?
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Lovely!
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Which one is the cutest? I think the red-head is the hottest one by far.
Didn't realize they were that, well, annoying. Ouch.
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Yeah, they're twats, but I'd still eat their pussies and have unprotected sex with them
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They messed this up, yes. But I wonder what the question was. It seems these "UNCENSORED" interviews want "REAL" (i.e. controversial, i.e. make people check out their website) answers. So maybe they are playing that up for the interviewer? Who knows... It's obviously a weird kind of performance--as every interview is.
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Hey look at it this way "The View" was the most exciting TV precisely because Rosie was keeping it real and very quick (if not always right). She was the closest thing to Sean Penn on TV. So good for the VG's letting it hang out.
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wow these comments are ridiculous. i don't see what the big deal is about this video or how it could change one's opinion of their music. since when do artists have a responsibility to reflect what we believe? chill out and listen to wild eyes.
Score = -3
If you don't delete this band's music because of their personalities, at least delete this band's music because they're untalented ass hats.
Score = 4
Fuck, man! It's ironic that they did this video (inexplicably, sitting in a bathtub; they're just THAT punk, I guess) with probably the purpose of getting publicity, but this has ensured that I will never seek out their music. Or if I hear it, I will remember how bitchy they are.
Their attitude appears to be, if you can't be in a band, you pretty much have no purpose in life because your social life amounts to coworker dinners at TGI Fridays and picking up chicks at bars. How impossibly arrogant and pretentious!
Score = 6
I think they make some great points. Yes, they say "like" a lot but that's their age and well, for their age, they are pretty insightful. Props that they did this interview and were themselves. if your going to bother to watch an interview rather than listen to their music, then all you can ask for is for it be real. leave 'em be.
Score = -18
that makes no sense. They gave their opinion, and people here are giving theirs. Maybe they should have let TGI Friday's and middle americans not rich enough to pick up and move to brooklyn to be artits/musicians be by your logic.
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LOL if you think they're serious.
Score = -1
i still think cassie is hot as hell.
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This is all very "Dixie Chicks v. Country Radio."
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"Like, Totally, Like We're the Vivian Girls -- Like, we're another hack retro sounding band"
.... get a life. you've aped all the sixties bands, face it ladies. originality isnt born and bred here
Hipster Punk Kids from Silver Spoon Fed Suburbs. Next.......
Score = 1
Before I decided to pass judgment I went and listened to some of their stuff. Awful. Just fucking awful. They need to take a good 6 months and learn to play their instruments before they ever see the light of day again. And it's not the "sound". I'm a huge fan of C86 and what not. This is just tripe.
From watching that video they come off as some massively vapid cunts. DIAF girls. DIAF.
Gonna go listen to some Black Tambourines to clear out the ears now.
Score = 2
Like, wow. Never, like, heard of these chicks, but I will, like, definitely, like, not be, like, checking out their, like, awesome, like, 'punk rock' anytime soon. Holy hell.
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EASTON AVE? as in NEW BRUNSWICK? central jerz hey hey HEEEEYYYYY
but get the fuck over yourselves, vivian girls. you know your drunk asses went to applebee's for the half price appetizers, esp. the wings (or the spinach dip if you're an herbivore)
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Anyone trying to defend these idiots is equally as moronic.
Please don't give these attention whore bitches anymore press
Score = -3
hey backlash jackasses, actually 2/3rds of them lived in New Brunswick, New Jersey until 2 months ago. Only one of them actually has lived in Brooklyn for any length of time.
They are, in fact, from the "rest of America," have every right to criticize the world around them, and your anti-Brooklyn stereotype bullshit is misplaced.
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I took you up on your idea to write a song, Vivian Girls. It's not finished yet, but here's the basic tale.
When your band finally calls it quits because you're 35 years old, you're broke, and people still don't care about you, you're going to move back in with your parents. Your mother will set you up with that "nice, normal man" down the street. (You know, the one that's been working in an office with his coworkers for the past 15 years.) Defeated, you'll end up marrying him and crapping out some kids. When your kids are older, they'll ask you why you have all those saggy, terrible tattoos and you'll say you were in a band. They'll ask what it was called, and you'll say Vivian Girls. They'll run off to their rooms to use the computers that their boring, normal father got for them. They'll type "Vivian Girls" into their Super Google YouTube.
Then they'll come back to your room and say, "Wow, Mommy, your band was garbage and you were a vapid child."
Score = 11
The Vivian Girls are so punk they can't afford an interview couch!!!
Score = 4
I'm not a big fan of their music but i agree with everything the vg's said in that interview. fuck yuppie squares.
Score = -12
You know what drum beat I hate? Floor tom riding. Man these biitcches be out they mind. They are as Urban Outfitter as they come. Trying to talk about hardworking people and TGIFs... Pish.
Score = 2
a lot of these comments are hilarious but eh, don't call these chicks "cunts" unless you've got one yourself. and even then don't.
Score = -3
Can't think of a better term. I call a duck a duck.
Score = 4
They responded!! (I bet Stereogum poked them on facebook). I guess we can call this Blooming Onion-Gate and move on....
(seriously, though. did they cite "bad editing" in reference to "uncensoredinterview.com"?)
Score = 5
gotcha journalism crosses over into indie rock. with a vengeance in this case.
Score = 0
I think it's funny too they cited "editing" as one of the reasons they looked like idiots. It also didn't really seem like they were joking and after viewing a bunch of their other videos it seems even less like it. It's either two things
1: They joke ALL the time and it's not very funny (unlikely)
or
2: That's just how they are and it's pretty lame (more likely)
you can bet they are going to be extra careful in interviews in the future.
Score = 1
how come the 90s get sleater kinney who were smart, had decent music, and could play their instruments while we get these vacuous mean-girls whose music sounds like a 5th generation cassette dub of "rock lobster"?
Score = 13
aww, how sad! i imagine the source for the comments from this article to be lonely curmudgeons, incapable of remembering their youthful ambition for something more than the banal lives they currently live. punk music is supposed to be vapid, polemical and antagonistic toward the lifestyle you folks seem to depressingly defend. if you're expecting more, it's because you've spent too much time away from your punk records to remember, or you were once naive enough yourselves to think that those bands you held in high esteem (the clash, crass, sleater kinney, etc.) had some sort of substantive analysis to share in their 3 min. songs.
go ahead and don't buy their records or go to their shows. i doubt you'll be missed. the rest of us will have fun; dancing to the vivian girls, drinking 40's and talking shit on cops.
Score = -15
I can't decide whether you're being witty and making fun of their fans or if you're actually one of their fans and just an idiot. Either way, bravo!
Score = 8
Wow. You're deep and cool. How many nuclear warheads in the world ready to explode at any second? How many people getting shot right now? Yeah, 40s and hating cops! Real punk rock! That's how you change the system, man!
Score = 1
Well, I've seen them in concert twice (with other bands) and these videos do no surprise me at all, as they come off as a bunch of bratty, stuck-up, 7-year olds.... true life quote ahead (cmj show):
"someone told us they liked our beach boys cover and we are like what beach boys covers, that's our song, we wrote that song, it's like whatever"
And they are so incredibly boring live and play like the SAME song for 27 minutes (is it?) They were close second for my Overrated act vote.
Score = 2
Sweet girls, those ladies. real dears.
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cassie is fucking cute guys
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Anyone happen to catch their response before they deleted the blog entry? Curious to see it.
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ooops we are like, kinda sorry, then we realized nobody believed our bullshit apology, then we took it down, but we like, still, like kinda like these "uncensored reviews" so we kept those up
at least the one about vincent gallo b/c everyone can agree, he like totally sucks!!!
Score = 0
Here's what I think (and I'm sure y'all couldn't care less):, I don't care how "Hawt" or "cute" the girls[sic] in this band are, they're a bunch of net numb nuts who are such scared-y cats that THEY DELETE THEIR OWN RANTS ABOUT THEMSELVES.
We ( "normals" ) don't get that luxury.
Here it is: The Vivian Girls are TRBL! Go home, already. You've never talked to a cute boy in your life... Stop being bitter about it.
Oh! Kiss kiss kiss!
Score = 1
I do have to say that I think middle-chick makes a good point about the community/instant friendship thingie that exists because of the music.
Score = 1
I dunno about the community/instant friendship thing... Maybe if you're a cute girl in a critically acclaimed indie pop band, sure. But a bunch of ugly dudes in a punk rock band playing shows for audiences who've never heard of them can be expect to be treated like shit.
Score = 3
Every time they speak/sing/play, I dislike them just a little more. Their collective ego is only beat out by their incompetence. It's tough to simplify the Jesus & Mary Chain [who were great because they made that sorta caveman rock-noise pop thing], but they manage ... in a bad way. Dumber and watered down.
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hey dudes! desperately rushing to the defense of your boring white collar management job doesn't change systems, and neither does punk rock. which is, as a rule, dumb tantrum music, even when attempted with intelligence. building a base of power in your workplace and communities and shifting that base to make demands and transform your conditions through struggle changes systems. letting off steam and enjoying time with your friends with the latter isn't mutually exclusive to this. the former is just depressing.
Score = -5
i wonder how many bands and their fanbase are held to the impossible metric of "system-changing music" in order to justify their existence.
perhaps you can return to listening to your the killers or strokes CDs, they seem relatively innocuous and unlikely to make any offensive judgments about your careers.
Score = -7
Once again. Rapier sharp wit or moronic sweeping generalist? I'm going with the latter.
Score = 5
"sweeping generalization"? i prefer to call it strategic essentialism.
Score = 4
Hey guys, I just got back from Chili's. What did I miss?
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Oh man, Dale, my coworker! You are always hitting up that Applebee's! Well, some rock n' roll girls have been talking negatively about you, buddy! Don't worry though, I don't think they're your type. Stick with Sheila in accounting. I heard she's getting a divorce.
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I'm sorry! We were being really sarcastic in those videos...the phrase "normal people" is just ridiculous, we love applebee's, and I have also taken a few yoga classes in my day. While we are definitely young and definitely have a stupid sense of humor, we were not being serious in those videos. We were just goofing around, and we are going to be more careful in future interviews.
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slut.
Score = 0
fuck them. i thought your interviews were funny.
and why hasn't my fun pack come in yet??
Score = -2
What a sycophantic moron! Great argument, bub. "Fuck them!" Suburban high-schoolers unite against working people!
You are probably quite an obnoxious person, drab.
Score = -6
Hey, Katy. Don't sweat it, seriously. I saw you guys at a Vice show and Cassie was really nice. You just accidentally wound up on another side of the punk community called Bitterness and Resentment. This has all gotten out of hand and will inevitably blow over. I'm sure your fans on this blog and elsewhere still love you. Best.
Score = 3
Was anyone else seriously disappointed when Chili's discontinued their Happy Hour All Day thing?
Score = 1
Jesus you post one harmless minute and half interview clip and all of a sudden it's fish out of watergate up in this. What's the big deal? I don't really think they intended to come across like that. They've been outcasts and rejects their whole lives it makes sense that they would say something like that. People want to act like they are the worst human beings to ever live. If you don't like their music then move on and stop ripping them apart on the blogs.
Score = -7
Who the fuck are the Vivian Girls?
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Praise be to Allah, for he has hit on the crux of the matter.
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to repost stephen's post:
"how come the 90s get sleater kinney who were smart, had decent music, and could play their instruments while we get these vacuous mean-girls whose music sounds like a 5th generation cassette dub of "rock lobster"?"
nobody here has posted anything more succinct or truer than this, and hey sleater kinney were (or are) from portland, back in the day when it was cooler and not over saturated like today
Score = 7
Weird, while I absolutely adore Sleater-Kinney, it's incredibly weird to hear them referred to in such sacrosanct terms.
I guess it has been a long time...
I feel really old.
Score = 1
Wow. They are so edgy and subversive...
I wanna be different too.
Just like everybody else.
Score = 4
What pretentious cunts. Those boring "Other People" are probably the SAME people buying your record Vivian Girls. And I got news for ya, when you run out of money, and "hipster cred" and no one gives a fuck about your suburbanite punk bullshit, you're going to have to probably bite the bullet and work a fuckin day job like the rest of us. I work an office job, but I'm an artist. I work on my art ALL THE TIME when I'm not working in the office, but I work in an office because I'm broke and I have rent to pay. And though I agree with you: there are a lot of douches out there and the bar scene isn't the best fun in the world, I stillI go to happy hours with my Co-workers, sometimes at TGI FRIDAYS. Because I like people. And I like my coworkers.
And I don't need your judgement for that shit just because you play in some indie band that suddenly the internet gives a fuck about for 2 seconds. Everyone isn't as lucky as you to be able to be in a big band, so I'd SHUT THE FUCK UP and learn some modesty.
Cuz you sound like prissy assholes.
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Poor Darger. =(
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Wow, this thread is depressing... i can't believe so many of you thought they were being serious for one second. Give artists a break... nowadays every bad step is on a blog 2 seconds after. If that's enough for you to discourage you into listening to their music well i wonder what music you would all have been listening to if internet existed in the 70's when most bands actually were a bunch of idiots and proud of it
Score = -7
OK, not to say anything for or against this band, because I haven't heard them, but didn't musicians in the past have to, you know, release a respectable amount of music, or at least be around for a while, before people started caring about their opinions? The internet is causing civilization to eat itself.
Amy Winehouse struck me as the first instance where, virtually as soon as she was famous, the reason people paid attention to her was because she was a mess. She has one single people like, and then she thinks, "OK, I've made it into people's attention, I can now coast on pictures of me half-unconscious and emaciated."
I mean, really, how many people have even HEARD of this band? I don't know if the "blogosphere" ever GOES OUTSIDE, but the average person has never heard of My Bloody Valentine, to name one indie totem.
My point is, the joke that is "indie rock" or whatever is an incestuous subset of people who listen to one kind of music and build ridiculous, blind opinions around it. Once Vivian Girls get my attention with worthwhile music then I'll even begin to consider caring about them as people.
Score = 1
They're like, totally, cuntz.
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I don't see what the problem is.
suburban lifestyles and values are bullshit and the Vivian Girls are just talking some shit, making fun of the shitty aspects of America that we all pretty much agree are garbage.
The outrage is pretty phony, haterzzzz
Score = -1
Discretion... Anyone doing an interview should choose their words carefully. That shit is there forever and you can't take it back. VGs are a good band. Easily victimized.
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i for one am glad stereogum could play host to all the clever misogynist music nerds surfing their blogroll for the next forum to safely express their disdain for female artists in. be your own pet, sleater-kinney, fucking b'52s (rofl) i mean come on, got any more vaginas you can magically pull out of a hat and compare this band to? oh and john claude, you fucking sorry aging hipster, don't expect anyone to take your ass seriously when you defend the right to call a woman a cunt in a public discussion
Score = -3
I only see a couple of trolls 'expressing their disdain" for female artist in this thread. Most people are trumpeting such bands. What we don't like are those three stooges just sinking the genre to a whole new level. In fact, about 90% of the music I listen to is female fronted.
"sorry aging hipster"? What? Am I supposed to start wearing khakis and listening to Norah Jones the minute I turn 30?
Oh, and don't ever go to England or watch or read anything vaguely related to the place. Your head will probably explode.
Score = 1
You're exactly right they were called the who. radiohead is good but the sun comes out in the states. (the Beatles had IMAGINATIONS and that's just as good.) Cosby George onto Ravi and the sitar way early...
Score = -1
LOL WHAT.
yeah comparing them to another female band is soo misogynistic!
and calling someone out for being a hipster is so 2007.
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except, not at all. the dixie chicks experienced a huge amount of backlash within the country market because they chose to speak out against someone (bush) who was widely accepted and supported by country music listeners. most people attacking the vivian girls here are probably doing so not because the vivian girls' ramblings fall far outside what they personally believe (I bet most here are more attracted to a 'punk' lifestyle than a TGIF lifestyle) but because they come across as very condescending and smug. george bush was taken to task for the atrocious things he has done, while 'normal people' were attacked by the vivian girls because apparently none of them are very hip.
Score = 1
Punk has ceased to be punk, because every kid with no talent, an attitude and a guitar or drumset thinks he or she is punk. I'd rather eat a bloomin' onion than listen to some silly girls in a bathtub try and be deep while attempting to set the world record for using the word 'like' in two minutes.
Score = 3
truth is everyone shit talks, but these girls just honestly seem like annoying people. I watched a bunch of their videos. Frankly, joking or not, they seem arrogant and entitled and I fault them more for that rather than their stupid views on "mainstream culture"
Essentially they just seem like they have bad characters. Of course maybe I'm wrong, but the 10 odd videos I checked out sure didn't make me want to grab a bloom'n onion with them
Score = 5
if this was stereogum 1968 you would be called somebody who likes "some"of the beatles songs but was more into s+G and ochs.
Score = 0
Wow. Finally everyone is figuring out that these girls are incredibly spoiled and share one brain cell between them. PPUUUNNNK!
Score = 2
I walked out on a Vivian Girls set because I had work the next morning. Also, their music is very boring.
Score = 3
These girls are simply depressed about not ever getting a great fuck from their high school quarterback.
Score = 0
Punk is SO dead. Anarchy in the UK lol
ANYONE who likes punk or Indie (or ndrum & Bass. RnB etc).... well ANYTHING but metal is a TOTAL loser. LOL
Score = -2
unreleased Vivian Girls interview... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjeBeuUTgCU
Score = 0
Oh crap. I'm not punk OR normal, what does that make me?
Score = 1
Pffft. All this hate on bloomin' onions. You ever have one of those? It's...magical.
Score = 1
Worst. Generation. Ever.
Score = 1
I don't see what the hell the big deal is here. No matter how ineloquently put, what they're saying isn't wrong.
All this negative response to this one interview smacks of a lot of jealousy from people who resent this band's hype and sudden success. I guess you guys can't wait to give them their backlash. I still can't fathom how some of you people were compelled to comment on this so many times.
Since when did it become a prerequisite for people in rock bands to be articulate and intelligent? Did you ever see an interview with Dee Dee Ramone? Ditto goes for having contempt.
The only thing I think is regrettable about this interview is that they apologized for it. They have nothing to be sorry for.
Score = -3
Larry, I don't want to prolong this debate. It's been run into the ground. But to say that people are upset because they're jealous is missing the point. Essentially, it all boils down to this:
Punk music comes along and says fuck the system.
The people stuck in the system agree and are happy to have a voice.
Decades later, Vivian Girls confuse that and say fuck the people in the system.
Those people say fuck you back.
Score = 2
I wonder how many of you haters are washed up high school jocks spewing your tripe, on company time, while you fly your cubicle and dream of your long gone "glory days" of being a self-centered douche bag and trying to fuck the cheerleaderettes so you could brag about your conquest to your fellow douche bag jock friends.....just wondering. I recommend the horseradish sauce for your blooming onion. It goes well with the half priced happy hour drinks that help you forget your pathetic life for a little while.
Score = -2
Remember that hardcore documentary? Was it "Get in the Van"? The one where they show Ian MacKaye cheerfully scooping ice cream at his part-time job at Haagen Daaz? Wonder what the Vanity Girls think of that...
Score = 1
Ok. Well, firstly I work a bank in mid- MO. Ilive in a cubicle. I am a 20-something guy. According to these girls, I probably suck- but that's ok. Now for the rest of the story... I am in a noise-pop band, I like to have fun and party a lot. I go to shows constantly and our company doesnt make me take certain types of tests. I live a fun life. i guess what I'm saying is that my job is my job- not me. It pays my bills. Maybe the Viv Girls will understand that someday.
Chain Restaurants generally suck. Remeber Office Space? Chotchky's or something? I mean, they make a somewhat legit point.
I understand whiole people are pissed. But way more people were pissed when Lennon said "The Beatles are bigger than Jesus".
Score = 0
either they're just another indie sub-genre snob trying to prove that they're one of those bands that don't care and say offensive things in interviews just like in the olden days. or they've got a super super advanced sense of humour - punk band making fun of people that make fun of 'normal' people. talk about niche comedy.
Score = 0
This one goes out to Bugler_papes, who, up til this point in this colorful discussion, has been the only one to point out the true hilarity of this band.
BOOOOOOOO to anyone who champions this band as something noteworthy in the slightest, and I challenge anyone to watch this video and disagree.
ROLL TAPE!!
http://pitchfork.com/tv/#/episode/71-vivian-girls
Score = 0
You guys are all ridicilous! I read all of these comments and figured this interview would be horrible and then i listened to it and its nothing more than these girls talking about the kind of people they don't like. I work at an office job, and i hate every person here, these people ARE for the most partl losers who hang out after work at TGI fridays and enjoy their saturday morning yoga, and yeah i might not be much cooler that them with my 9am saturday beer drinking and drumming but these "normal people" would probably call punk kids a bunch of losers and no one would make such a commotion about that. So let these girls be, they make decent music and they enjoy what they are doing. So they hate you? Deal with it.
Score = -1
You guys are all ridicilous! I read all of these comments and figured this interview would be horrible and then i listened to it and its nothing more than these girls talking about the kind of people they don't like. I work at an office job, and i hate every person here, these people are all losers who hang out after work at TGI fridays and enjoy their saturday morning yoga, and yeah i might not be much cooler that them with my 9am saturday beer drinking and loud music playing but these "normal people" would probably call punk kids a bunch of losers and no one would make such a commotion about that. So let these girls be, they make decent music and they enjoy what they are doing. So they hate you? Deal with it.
Score = 0
This interview really offended me. I have an ofice job, and you know what, i go out for drinks with my friends. Not all of the people who work and try and survive and maybe support a family (probably like the ones they came from) suck. Some of us work our asses of, deal with unemployment, low wages, high mortgages and recession just to get by. Some of us also like music to, and like going to concerts. Fuck them for looking down on people. I wish i'd had the money when i was young that i know they had. Many of my friends know them and they come from wealthy suburbs in NJ where they have undoubtedly had all the time they wanted to make music. They come accross like a bunch of 15 teenagers who like slipknot and enjoy repeating marilyn manson lyrics cause they think they're clever. Pathetic. I hope they have to get jobs to one day, and i hope they maybe realise that they're just like the rest of us, no matter how clever they think they are.
Score = 0