War On Emo (Or The Only Difference Between Rites Of Spring and Fall Out Boy Is Everything)
NME gets political...
Bottled at Reading! Tabloid stories! Where do you stand? Plus, we hear from the guy who bottled Panic! At The Disco's Brendon Urie.
Where do we stand? We stand on the side that acknowledges these bands are not actually emo. How did MCR and P!ATD even get classified as emo? It's a terrible misnomer we've gone along with, but let's put a stop to that.
Not to get all Brandon Flowers, but it's time for a debate! Have these 21st century MTVu eyeliner rockers anything in common with the DC hardcore scene twenty years ago? What was the last great emo album? What's the greatest emo album of all time? Is America losing the war on the emo? Is there even a war on emo? Why is Gerard dressed for battle?
Posted at 12:24 PM
Tags: Fall Out Boy | My Chemical Romance | Panic! At The Disco
Can't we just take the second bus home?
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Can't we all just take the second bus home?
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Sorry, but these bands are emo-- in the sense that they are self-obsessed, over-dramatic, and completely boring.
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i know hte guy who bottled brendan urie at reading B-)
anything anyone wants me to pass on?
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The two greatest emo records were recorded before it was called "emo." "End on End"-Rites of Spring and "Hello Bastards" - Lifetime. Easy
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Sorry, but these bands are emo-- in the sense that they are self-obsessed, over-dramatic, and completely boring.
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The two greatest emo records were recorded before it was called "emo." "End on End"-Rites of Spring and "Hello Bastards" - Lifetime. Easy
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So is emo:
A) that which sprung from DC hardcore
B) angsty post-Pinkerton rock
C) overexposed pop-punkers who shop at The Limited Too
I don't know!
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If we retreat from the war on emo, the terrorists win
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Stop, they're both shite...
I know I'll take hell for this but, to fans who don't like them, any post-Blink 182 isn't Emo - they're mall punks (My Chemical Romance, Panic!, Fall Out Boy, etc.)
Shouldn't NME be reporting on the hard news like Pete Doherty vomits, how the Arctic Monkeys changed music forever and Oasis' best-of collection is better than the Beatles 1's?
Aren't those the feckless, hyperbolic news items we expect (ane need) from the NME??
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Sorry, but these bands are emo-- in the sense that they are self-obsessed, over-dramatic, and completely boring.
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the same "is it emo" question would always come up on message boards a few years ago when new found glory/saves the day/etc blew up. same with "screamo" some people will always say that stuff like saetia and forstella ford is what "screamo" really is, but most of the time people think of hawthorne heights, et al.
it all really boils down to this: who really gives a fuck? seriously.
i called panic and mcr "pop punk" and hawthorne heights "screamy pop punk"..those terms serve me well.
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Sunny Day "Diary"
CaP'n Jazz anthology
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i know hte guy who bottled brendan urie at reading B-)
anything anyone wants me to pass on?
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Stop, they're both shite...
I know I'll take hell for this but, to fans who don't like them, any post-Blink 182 isn't Emo - they're mall punks (My Chemical Romance, Panic!, Fall Out Boy, etc.)
Shouldn't NME be reporting on the hard news like Pete Doherty vomits, how the Arctic Monkeys changed music forever and Oasis' best-of collection is better than the Beatles 1's?
Aren't those the feckless, hyperbolic news items we expect (ane need) from the NME??
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i know hte guy who bottled brendan urie at reading B-)
anything anyone wants me to pass on?
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Mark, you have absolutely no idea what emo is, do you?
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Stop, they're both shite...
I know I'll take hell for this but, to fans who don't like them, any post-Blink 182 isn't Emo - they're mall punks (My Chemical Romance, Panic!, Fall Out Boy, etc.)
Shouldn't NME be reporting on the hard news like Pete Doherty vomits, how the Arctic Monkeys changed music forever and Oasis' best-of collection is better than the Beatles 1's?
Aren't those the feckless, hyperbolic news items we expect (ane need) from the NME??
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Hoover - "The Lurid Traversal of Route 7"
Mohinder - "Anthology"
Cars Get Crushed - "Drag Explosive"
Or am I getting my post-hardcore mixed up with my emo?
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Pop-Punk beget Pop-emo. That's where we're at right now. The fact that they're calling it emo neat is no different than when Green Day was getting called punk back when Dookie came out.
Regardless, the term emo seems to have always been extremely broad...from straight hardcore to acoustic whispers. I don't think these bands fall outside the lines drawn by Fugazi and Dashboard, do they?
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nme's band of the year artic monkeys just won the mercury and they chose this as a cover? where are their priorities?
gerard's actually dressed in that standard marching band costume, only it's in black (of course). he's not geared up for any battle, he's geared up for the black parade. ;-)
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Honestly, "emo" was bad when it was early Jimmy Eat World and Braid, too. And NO ONE ever heard of Rites of Spring until, like, 98 or something. "Emo" may have always sucked. I liked a Promise Ring album here and there and the first three Sunny Day records, but that was about it. Even the old "emo" labels like Jade Tree and Polyvinyl don't peddle those kind of wares anymore.
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Dag Nasty always seemed, in retrospect, like they could be called Emo.
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Emo of the 80's became emo-core when the 90's emo scene hit. Bands like Cap'n Jazz, Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate and all those other bands made the original emo sound a sub-genre of hardcore punk and took emo into a more indie/emo sound.
These bands are not emo bands, they're pop rock bands, but calling them 'emo' just gives people something to moan about, and we all know everyone likes a good ol' moan.
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the greatest emo album of all time:
the smiths - the queen is dead
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Um... "No one ever heard of Rites Of Spring until like, 98 or something" ... What? I suppose that may be true if you are under the age of 20. I didn't see anybody throw in Embrace and Faith up there, so I'll throw them in.
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Two best Emo Records
Knapsack 'This Conversation Is Ending Starting Right Now'
Far 'Water & Solutions'
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Emo of the 80's became emo-core when the 90's emo scene hit. Bands like Cap'n Jazz, Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate and all those other bands made the original emo sound a sub-genre of hardcore punk and took emo into a more indie/emo sound.
These bands are not emo bands, they're pop rock bands, but calling them 'emo' just gives people something to moan about, and we all know everyone likes a good ol' moan.
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Emo of the 80's became emo-core when the 90's emo scene hit. Bands like Cap'n Jazz, Texas is the Reason, Sunny Day Real Estate and all those other bands made the original emo sound a sub-genre of hardcore punk and took emo into a more indie/emo sound.
These bands are not emo bands, they're pop rock bands, but calling them 'emo' just gives people something to moan about, and we all know everyone likes a good ol' moan.
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Can i coin the phrase "Mall Punk"?
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emo = emotional punk rock
Fugazi = emo
Minor Threat = emo
MCR = modern day hair band
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emo = emotional punk rock
Fugazi = emo
Minor Threat = emo
MCR = hair band's of the 80's
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The only "emo" albums I can still listen to are the Rites Of Spring and Embrace (Ian Mackaye's post-Minor Threat band, not the UK one) records. Stuff by Sunny Day Real Estate, Mineral, Texas Is The Reason, and The Promise Ring didn't age particularly well. Even the so-called "respectable emo" (e.g. Rainer Maria, Cursive, etc.) is more or less enjoyable your freshmen/sophomore year of college, but then you grow up and realize that it all sounds like a bunch of self-obsessed English majors trying to be "arty." In other words, who would want to listen to music that recalls those pretentious fuckwits in your Creative Writing class? Not me.
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Emo is about lyrical content that tends toward the personal. And that's really it.
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This is like trying to classify different varieties of shit.
'Oh look, it's the kind with corn in it! Oooh, here we have the pudding variety!'
It's all terrible. Emo is terrible, hardcore is terrible, whatever the hell MCR & P!ATD are, that's terrible.
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So is emo:
A) that which sprung from DC hardcore
B) angsty post-Pinkerton rock
C) overexposed pop-punkers who shop at The Limited Too
I don't know!
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sorry
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Zen Arcade was the first (and maybe last) great emo album.
None of these bands have anything in common with Husker Du.
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i second the notion for "mall punk"
those all in favor say "I"
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Hate to say it, but the label actually makes more sense applied to this new wave of overwrought, whiny pop guys than it ever did applied to the first generation guys like Rites of Spring or the more experimental second generation guys like SDRE, Braid, Promise Ring, etc.
What's curious is that, in most cases when a genre goes in a new direction (when "punk" began to be applied to Green Day, for instance), there's some relation, some noticeable line to the old guard.
The best I can do with Fall Out Boy or My Chemical Romance is trace them back through Jimmy Eat World's latter-day sound to their earlier sound, which might have some superficial resemblance to SDRE, which had some barely noticeable resemblances to Fugazi (that's a stretch, I realize), thus Rites of Spring.
It's not exactly as clear as the line from the Clash or the Ramones to Green Day (even if you deny Green Day's punkiness on the basis of some intangible, like principle or spirit). In fact, the line from Green Day to My Chemical Romance or Fall Out Boy is clearer than the line from any first or second gen emo band to MCR or FOB. Curious, eh?
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As always, AMG has the answer:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=77:4525
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hot water music's the only one i still listen to, so they win.
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Braid - Frame and Canvas
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I always thought of Minor Threat and Fugazi as "post-punk."
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How about "Hot Topic Rock"
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I think it might be wise to just ackowledge that "emo" means something different to the kids then it does to us crusty old Rites of Spring fans. Kind of silly, but what can you do eh?
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I always thought of Hot Topic as "a clothing store."
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The only "emo" albums I can still listen to are the Rites Of Spring and Embrace (Ian Mackaye's post-Minor Threat band, not the UK one) records. Stuff by Sunny Day Real Estate, Mineral, Texas Is The Reason, and The Promise Ring didn't age particularly well. Even the so-called "respectable emo" (e.g. Rainer Maria, Cursive, etc.) is more or less enjoyable your freshmen/sophomore year of college, but then you grow up and realize that it all sounds like a bunch of self-obsessed English majors trying to be "arty." In other words, who would want to listen to music that recalls those pretentious fuckwits in your Creative Writing class? Not me.
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"In other words, who would want to listen to music that recalls those pretentious fuckwits in your Creative Writing class? Not me."
i think that referencing your creative writing class in college makes you about as pretentious as them.
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portraits of past lp
best emo or screamo or whatever album ever.
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this looks like a magazine to avoid at all costs. oh, and if you ever use the word 'emo' in any conversation, you're a tool.
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last great emo album= american football.
man, that shit still rules.
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It is a clothing store... a clothing store that sells clothes to and CD's by those bands
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I would say 90% of these commenters are tools. You're only coining "mall-punk" to distance yourself from your teenage job at the mall. Green Day was the OG mall-punk, and calling the current MCR, etc. "pop-punk" shits squarely on the face of alright bands like the Mr. T Experience.
Those Embrace, etc. records may be the originals, but they're not more listenable than the 90s stuff (The Promise Ring's "Nothing Feels Good" is probably the best overall); you're lying to yourself.
Also, hit the "Post" button one time only.
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last great emo album= american football.
man, that shit still rules.
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MINERAL.
Also, modern day rockers The Diggs remind me so very much of the stuff I listene dto when I was 16. Sounds like early Get Up Kids and Promise Ring.
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Love that American Football album.
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i think, for me, the last album that came out that was anywhere near emo was the Kid Kilowatt cd. and that was just a collection.
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for me, the last really good album that was anywhere near emo was that Kid Kilowatt cd.
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this looks like a magazine to avoid at all costs. oh, and if you ever use the word 'emo' in any conversation, you're a tool.
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julia
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Emo has lost it's punk roots.
Are these guy's emo? of course not...but let it be. ignorance is bliss sometimes. they don't know any better and shouldn't be looked down upon because they don't.
give them the lone wolf sign and then go listen to what you want.
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Emo has lost it's punk roots.
Are these guy's emo? of course not...but let it be. ignorance is bliss sometimes. they don't know any better and shouldn't be looked down upon because they don't.
give them the lone wolf sign and then go listen to what you want.
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Emo has lost it's punk roots.
Are these guy's emo? of course not...but let it be. ignorance is bliss sometimes. they don't know any better and shouldn't be looked down upon because they don't.
give them the lone wolf sign and then go listen to what you want.
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i don't listen to these bands and i could care less about the tabloid coverage some members of this community receive because they're boinking some soon to be hasbeen hollywood celebutante...but since i'm over fourty, doesn't seem a little like the hair metal band wars during the late 80's early 90's...
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minor threat emo??? you have no clue. sunny day RE and texas is the reason. more like it.
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minor threat emo??? you have no clue. sunny day RE and texas is the reason. more like it.
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minor threat emo??? you have no clue. sunny day RE and texas is the reason. more like it.
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Lace your Air Ones up and jump in the Delorean if you want to "coin the term 'mall punk.'" The term itself, while apt for describing any and all contemporary waves of demographic-friendly unit-shifting pop rock, is old news. Much like the definition of many genres of music, the definiton of mall punk is dynamic, shifting with the in-store trends. Much like the word "bad" came to mean "good," the word "emo" is synonymous with "mall punk," which itself is typically not punk at all. Punk is not conformity, mall punk is.
Rather than say "that's so gay," when speaking derisively of something, it has become commonplace amongst students at the University of Washington to refer to something as being "emo." For instance, the worker at the Pita Pit skimps on cheese and jalepenos; appropriate response would be, "that's so emo." Your fantasy football team's quarterback throws an INT? That's emo.
Unlike race, sexual orientation or (just roll with me) religion, using "emo" in a negative context should offend nobody. Emo, unlike race and sexual orientation, is a choice, not something inborn.
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Emotions are gay someone sing me a song about Whiskey and fucking sluts in the bathroom. That being said the two greatest emo albums
Jawbreaker - Bivouac
Jawbreaker - 24 hour revenge therapy
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Emotions are gay. Someone sing me a song about Whiskey and fucking sluts in the bathroom. That being said the two greatest emo albums
Jawbreaker - Bivouac
Jawbreaker - 24 hour revenge therapy
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Excerpt from the allmusic history of "emo" given above:
"Aside from the Dischord stable, most early emo was deeply underground, recorded by extremely short-lived bands and released on vinyl in small quantities by small labels; some vocalists literally wept onstage during song climaxes, earning derision from hardcore purists."
In twelve years, when Chris Carrabba, Panic!, a reformed My Chemical Romance and a shitty emo revival band go on the tongue-in-cheek "Emo is Dead" tour, can't you picture a 28-year-old dude in eyeliner bragging, "Yeah man, back when I listened to this shit, it was all way underground...the REAL emo singers would break down into tears after each song. You don't even know, man."
That's how I envision whoever wrote that article.
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Of anything that is remotely related to emo in any way, the only thing actually good is Pinkerton.
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dude, does this ring of hair make me look emo?
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Portraits of Past LP. Agreed.
I always remembered people saying your band was "emo" was a bad thing. The hardcore version of being in a boy band.
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Emotions are gay. Someone sing me a song about Whiskey and fucking sluts in the bathroom. That being said the two greatest emo albums
Jawbreaker - Bivouac
Jawbreaker - 24 hour revenge therapy
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Emotions are gay someone sing me a song about Whiskey and fucking sluts in the bathroom. That being said the two greatest emo albums
Jawbreaker - Bivouac
Jawbreaker - 24 hour revenge therapy
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I miss sunny day...
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"I’ve met quite a few who never actually admit that they listen to emo: “oh, they sort of used to be emo, but they’re basically just indie pop now; oh, that’s not emo, it’s just sort of slightly emo-ish hardcore.” Jesus, you idiot, if you listen to six hundred bands that skirt the borders of emo, you basically just listen to emo. Fuck." -Dr. David Thorpe
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I'd say they are emo. Music styles evolve and change over time and that's what emo has done it might not be exactly like the older stuff (Rites of Spring, Fugazi), but that's what it is now. For instance look at rap would anyone had seen rap's evolutionary chart way back when. It's extremely different from what it used to be, but it's still rap. I do get pissed when people try to expand the title of emo onto something it's not. Someonce refered to Beck's "Sea Change" as emo and I was not happy. I do hate emo by the way.
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I'd say they are emo. Music styles evolve and change over time and that's what emo has done it might not be exactly like the older stuff (Rites of Spring, Fugazi), but that's what it is now. For instance look at rap would anyone had seen rap's evolutionary chart way back when. It's extremely different from what it used to be, but it's still rap. I do get pissed when people try to expand the title of emo onto something it's not. Someonce refered to Beck's "Sea Change" as emo and I was not happy. I do hate emo by the way.
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I'd say they are emo. Music styles evolve and change over time and that's what emo has done it might not be exactly like the older stuff (Rites of Spring, Fugazi), but that's what it is now. For instance look at rap would anyone had seen rap's evolutionary chart way back when. It's extremely different from what it used to be, but it's still rap. I do get pissed when people try to expand the title of emo onto something it's not. Someonce refered to Beck's "Sea Change" as emo and I was not happy. I do hate emo by the way.
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"I’ve met quite a few who never actually admit that they listen to emo: “oh, they sort of used to be emo, but they’re basically just indie pop now; oh, that’s not emo, it’s just sort of slightly emo-ish hardcore.” Jesus, you idiot, if you listen to six hundred bands that skirt the borders of emo, you basically just listen to emo. Fuck." -Dr. David Thorpe
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Dang, the thread of comments could have been cut in half if people could be patient enough to wait for their indie cred to post.
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I'll never forget the day my niece told me she listened to emo like me because she listened to Fall Out Boy. I felt like I had let my whole family down.
Btw, I agree with the American Football, Mineral and SDRE picks. Those records are fantastic.
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Weezer is powerpop. Always have been. They were never associated with the mid 90's emo scene so there's no reason to try to associate them retrospectively.
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Well, there's emo back then and then emo now. These guys are the embodiment of emo now.
Emo bands now are the bastard love children 12 times removed, watered down, and beaten with a stick.
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Weezer is associated with the very vague genre that is emo because of all the modern emo bands that have admitted to Weezer as a major influence on them (like Jimmy Eat World). Though it is a retrospective association.
And for the record i don't call Weezer emo. People will get beat down for that sort of thing. i just acknowledge the influence they had on so many horrible bands.
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some people don't even think rites of spring is all that "emo," but they are credited with starting the "emo" music scene. whatever it is, i don't think it really exists anymore. "emo" is more of a commercial thing nowadays and practically anything can be classified as "emo."
i know for a fact that i could care less about the state of "emo" today. my chemical romance, panic! at the disco.. it's all just shit. we should just accept that and move on. hahaha.
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aha.gf.
i agree. with some of you girly economic wankers.
emo was...whatever it was...go have a wank...but its changed, just like indie and everyfuckingthingelse.
and i dont care.
but i dont particarly like it. but thats cool. its music. be post modern you arty holes, people can have opinions. and mine is they are emo, cause thats what emo is now, and yes, to me they are bollocks, but i wouldnt be to snap happy if someone started bottln' me bands when theyre playn .
chill.
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that scott kid knows what's he's talking about...I am actually a fan of bands (still) that were once considered 'emo'--MINERAL--because they're incredible, Promise Ring, Sunny Day, etc...I like to call these bands 'middle school emo' as they are lumped into that late 90's brand of emo(not 'old school' emo--Rites of Spring, Fugazi--early hardcore). And when these bands broke up and became no more, emo pretty much died for me, the term should have been left there. But someone had to dig it up and apply it to things like Fall Out Boy and Panic!
The problem is that 'emo',as a term, once referred to a sound/style of music, where now, it simply refers to a look/style of anything but music (according to media who aren't even creative enough to come up with a marketing term for what is going on right now.) Bands like Fall Out Boy don't posess the musical style of middle school emo, nor do they have ANYTHING to say, like old school emo. The term itself is pretty important to me (as I identify a time of my life with those bands) and it kills me to see it used with such disregard. I don't have a problem admitting that I like emo, I just wish people actually knew what it was.
Oh, and I actually like my chem--a lot, I think they are pretty awesome for what they do, I respect their vision, and their craft. But they are certainly not emo...and the rest of these bands, fine-they exist, but don't call them emo.
AND as for the bottling of both of these bands...it's completely inhumane...have some respect for other human beings.
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Who the fuck cares about DC hardcore? To most people, the first important emo record (and probably the best) was Diary.
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I don't give a fuck about the emo debate, I just want to know why Gerard Way thinks he can rock the Susan Powter look.
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All these bands are scoring hits with talentless Morrissey impersonations. The write about the misery without any of the irony or wit (let alone the musical genius of Johnny Marr).
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i am emo, and i am proud, there isnt anything rong wiv them
i say we fight against the people who h8 the emo's, because they r just chavs who need someone to pick on because they lose their fights wiv the grungers
so screw wat evry1 says about emo's, mcr r emo, panic at the disco r certainly not emolets jus kick the arses of whoever started this dam thing because they deserve it
chavs r the most hated kind of people ever
kick there ass
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Holy fucking Shit.
It's music. If sounds good listen to it.
Simple.
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i don't care what they are. i freakin love these bands and hundreds more just like them. does it really matter what kind of genre they are, they make the best music, so it shouldnt matter.
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ok, first off there are two of us saying this! ok on with the arguement....
Corisa: P!ATD is NOT emo... and for those of u haters u f***ing think they r and want to throw sh*t at them because of that, then screw u!!!!!!!!
katie: such foul language...
corisa: shut up! neways as i was saying, p!atd even stated in an interview that they didnt want to classify them selves as emo or anything like that, they said that they were just a plain old rock band! so stop saying shit lik that, u only make ur self look like assholes!
katie: or as i consider them (p!atd i mean) disco rock XD... i made it up, but it makes sence...
Corisa: i totally agree, their music pertance of a mixture of rock and techno hence creating disco rock...and if u know who the f*** threw the bottles then tell them who it was u ass!!! GOD DAMMIT!!!
katie:and ask them y they did it cuz it confuses me cuz p!atd is a good band even if u think theyre emo...even though they're not. and MCR isn't emo either, I dont even know how you got that. sorry, I was going to put deduced but corisa said it would confuse the idiots. excuse her language plz, but she gets really worked up when u insult her fav bands. anywayz...MCR isn't emo, they're punk rock and a little demented, but even if you think they're emo, you still gotta love them cuz they're an awesome band. and sorry to those who have other labelz for MCR other than emo or punk, it was just the only thing i can think of to label them as besides individual rock. and that label goes for both bands. but dont just label them emo...cuz they're not.
corisa: yeah cuz they are copletely different from any other type of band basically... sooooo those of u who want to label them as emo or dont like them for some other stupid reason u can go to hell... and kiss my ass on the way there!!!
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WTF why bottle 2 of the best frontmen ever
id love to see some other frontman perform the genre that these guys do !!
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I love My Chemical Romance and used to love Panic! At The Disco, but it pisses me off when people don't listen! If these badns say they are NOT EMO then they are not! I'm emo and emo's rule but if they say they're not then I firmly believe them and it's their choice. It's not about what anyone else thinks, as long as they know it and the select few of others know it, I'm on happy son-of-a-fucking-bitch!...Also I love Gerard Way!!!
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both of them rock. call them what you will. i am emo. i am a little lighter than goth and have not the motivation to be angry, just to be depressed. the reason this war is happening is that some dumba** decided that that would make a great cover to a magazine. Nobody should win. Give peace and receive peace. Same with love. and i KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BACKED UP BY MUSICAL EXPERTS. The most probable reason that everyone hates emos is that, during the hardcore-punk/rock era, few bands would come out with emotionally stirring and slightly depressing. this angered them, hence begining the dislike on emo, and since emo has 'come out of the underground' the hate has carried over. Another theory is that emos are the easiest to pick on, because emos(or most i know, and myself) are far too shy to fight back or even acknowledge the teaser's weaknesses.
Those are my thoughts.
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both of them rock. call them what you will. i am emo. i am a little lighter than goth and have not the motivation to be angry, just to be depressed. the reason this war is happening is that some dumba** decided that that would make a great cover to a magazine. Nobody should win. Give peace and receive peace. Same with love. and i KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BACKED UP BY MUSICAL EXPERTS. The most probable reason that everyone hates emos is that, during the hardcore-punk/rock era, few bands would come out with emotionally stirring and slightly depressing. this angered them, hence begining the dislike on emo, and since emo has 'come out of the underground' the hate has carried over. Another theory is that emos are the easiest to pick on, because emos(or most i know, and myself) are far too shy to fight back or even acknowledge the teaser's weaknesses.
Those are my thoughts.
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both of them rock. call them what you will. i am emo. i am a little lighter than goth and have not the motivation to be angry, just to be depressed. the reason this war is happening is that some dumba** decided that that would make a great cover to a magazine. Nobody should win. Give peace and receive peace. Same with love. and i KNOW SOMETHING THAT IS BACKED UP BY MUSICAL EXPERTS. The most probable reason that everyone hates emos is that, during the hardcore-punk/rock era, few bands would come out with emotionally stirring and slightly depressing. this angered them, hence begining the dislike on emo, and since emo has 'come out of the underground' the hate has carried over. Another theory is that emos are the easiest to pick on, because emos(or most i know, and myself) are far too shy to fight back or even acknowledge the teaser's weaknesses.
Those are my thoughts.
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I agree personally with Sarah. -nods- and then you have the fact that everyone is getting upset with being called emo. ooooo... and to my aknowledge to somewhere to how this may have started, I was lloking through the enternet landed on a website, (cant really find it now) that says in bold friggin letters PANIC! DECALRES MCR "EMO BULLSHIT"
W.T.F is up with that. PANIC! needs slapped. sry had to say that too.
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I agree personally with Sarah. -nods- and then you have the fact that everyone is getting upset with being called emo. ooooo... and to my aknowledge to somewhere to how this may have started, I was lloking through the enternet landed on a website, (cant really find it now) that says in bold friggin letters PANIC! DECALRES MCR "EMO BULLSHIT"
W.T.F is up with that. PANIC! needs slapped. sry had to say that too.
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shit, i always figured emocore was just a joke tag slapped onto rites of spring & a few other dischorders cuz they talked in four syllable words & earned a bit of ballbreaking for their fluffy lyrics... everything had to be something-core back then... it got fucking stupid... 'emocore' was the dumbest of the lot - i always thought it was deliberate, a piss-take... can't believe everyone's taking it so seriously now! fuck, man!
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I am emo, and i think the whole 'war' is pathetic
just because emo's look different and listen to different music to 'normal' people doesnt mean we should be targeted cause of it!
My Chemical Romance have said that they are better than just one 'tag' and aren't emo
Panic and the disco are against emo (but i still love them) and before u critisise other good bands or good emo's u need to get ur facts straight!
If the war is to carry on we will prove to u how very wrong u were to take us on in the first place!! haha
we do not like the war and would like it to stop, this started because we are different and we will continue to be different so u will never win! im sorry, it is fact!
In th4e great words of my chemical romance "SO LONG AND GOODNIGHT!!!"
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emo hasnt got anything to do with cutting your wrists or being depressed its about being different and doing your own thing if every1 was the same it wud just be boring!just because emo is different it gets criticised and has been branded a "dangerous teenage cult".why arent we not against people who like dance music or hip hop....because they look and "dress" normally??
give it up.........if we have a war on emo it just proves how people react to others being unique!!!
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Why is everyone looking for a fight? Music is like art, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone likes different things because...guess what? We are all different.
And for those people who call themselves emo, you need to remember its just a label, you should not put yourself in a box. Seriously, Emo means nothing at the end of the day, seems as no one can find a proper description that we can all agree on.
I look at emo as a dress sense.
And ya know what? All you anti-emos are just as bad. How can you look at someone and hate them because they more sensitive than you.
At the end of the day, we all love rock, we should stick together. We should hate really bad music, like hip hop. (truly shallow tunes)
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i dont rekon der emo. just cos dey wear eyeliner and blak dusnt make em emo. if u actually knew about dem youd find out dey DONT slit der rists or wanna die or anything. suck on that
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Scatman Crothers was emo! Until he got the axe by Nicholson. Nicholson is pretty emo too! Ever watch "About Schmidt: The Emo Years"? Fucking hello?
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MCR pwns. Panic sucks. No one cares. blahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!
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This Has Gone To Far. Yeah. I Am Emo But Whats The Big Deal? Yeah, I Like My Chemical Romance.And Panic At The Disco And Hawthorne Heights But A Message To The 'Haters' How Does It Affect Your Life If Emo's Like Diffrent Music And If MCR Are Emo Or Not? It Doesnt. Im Not Asking Use To Like Emo Music. But Leave The People Who Do Alone. And As A Matter Of Fact Emo Is A Genre Of Music. It Only Comes Along With A Fasion(This Fasion Is NOT Slitting Ur Wrists) But Still People Say Emos Cut There Wrists. You Would Think Coz Im Emo I Would No right? Rant Overr.. Leah x
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Why do people make such a big deal about emo? It's just another culture. Everyone is entitle to be what they want to be, their own taste in music, clothes etc. Teens are discovering themselves, let them be
I'm a big fan of my chem, but i'm not emo, i like some of the emo fashion. I have no problem with emo. I have emo friends. They aren't moody or depressive. They don't cut like the stereotype says. (If you do, i'd advise seeking help. It'll make all the difference :)
The press have made the emo culture out to be some whacky out there death cult, when in fact it's an identity like "chav" or "Greebo is.
It's no danger and parents shouldn't worry that much over it unless their child has a depressive illness. Emo music plays a big part of today's teenage rock scene.
My chemical romance have had there ups and downs. Gerard way having had drink and drug problems, this just means he is a real person, not phoney and it goes to show. No matter what you've done in your past, you can still make a positive difference.
We are supposed to live in an equal rights society. But people still discriminate against eachother. So much for equality in the masses
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i'm from germany, so i might have a slightly different perspective on this due to different experiences, but over here it went a little something like this: when the mid-to-late-90s emo bands started cropping up, it was a thing that took place within a tight-knit community. a community that, among other things, embraced values such as DIY. so a large part of the "emo experience" was connected to the feeling that you, as a fan, really broke some ground and got active instead of consuming passively - setting up shows for bands such as braid or promise ring, getting to know them, writing about them in self-published zines, forming bands yourself etc. that's what made this time special for those involved. oh, and the music wasn't bad, either (ok, maybe sometimes)..
why do i write all of this: because in my experience, those that slag off emo most passionately were and are usually people who only watched this scene from the outside or, in most cases, missed its heyday alltogether. i often thought i could detect a healthy dose of johnny-come-lately-ish frustration in some of these sneers.. especially from indie people who simply could not fathom that they had missed out on the phenomenon.
i'm not saying that "the scene" didn't have any annoying aspects such as elitism, ideological bullshit being passed forth and so on. trust me, i 'm more than aware of that cause i more than once suffered it (yeah.. emo kids like to suffer...).
anyways, that's the only reason that (at least to my mind) could explain why even today, people in this thread react so venomously when talking about the bands of this time. i understand ranting about mcr and those disco dudes, because their whole thing, from overblown records to bombastic videos to silly costumes, is just so over the top. i'm not saying it's a bad thing, it just invites controversy. however: those 90s bands? man, a bunch of kids in t-shirts and jeans playing melodic guitar music with varying degrees of success. what's so bad about that??
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The bands today have nothing in common with those of the late 90's. Something real was going on then. Something between the musicians and the fans. The bands of today are straight pop. That is why I call them "POP PUNK PUSSIES".
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Fugazi aren't emo
they were on the bloody NME around the 90's
and toured in the UK around 1989, 1992 and 1999
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(NOT EMO)
Fugazi,
Drive like jehu,
Jawbox,
Husker Du,
Mission Of Burma,
Jawbreaker,
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mcr is emo! but panic isn't!!!!P!ATD is anything but emo!
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paaaaaaaaaaaaaaanic!!!!!!!!!! rocks!!!!
mcr rocks!
but i gotta go with ryan and Bden
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okay??
dude emo's not so bad.
it's pretty cool... but learning what cutting
has done to me... uhhh well it didn't do much..
well who cares if they're emo! That's so lame!
besides emo is dying! Scene is like the next big
thing... which is like emo, but.... um... yeah
i think both are emo...
welll.... i have to go with... mcr...
totally dude
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BOTH OF THE BANDS ROCK HARD. IT DOESNT MATTER IF THEY ARE "EMO" OR NOT. THER ARENT ANY BANDS WHO ARE REALLY EMO THESE DAYS, THEY ARE JUST POP PUNK. THAT DOESENT MEAN THEY SUCK THOUGH.
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umm..yea. do u guys even no what u r talking about? cuz last i checked..these bands are not emo. if you listened to their interveiws, lyrics, or even look at the way they dress, u would no that. They just have their own unique style. So quit jumpin all over them like a pack of wolves
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who gives a shit if they emo or not BUT MCR IS MOT EMO!!!!!! and thats true if you need more proof that mcr is not emo go to you tube and tybe in you tube {why mcr isnt emo}
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we should just get over the whole emo shit and listen to the bands we FUCKIN like. even if its emo/punk/goth/rock and even hip hop
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Everybody listen.
My Chemical Romance has done so much, for everyone!
Who cares if you classify them as emo or not.
They are a band, just trying to make music for the people that they love.
Let them live their lives.
Because of them, so many kids are still alive today.
They are amazing!
I am not going to stand down.
My Chemical Romance has fought for us, so many times.
& We fight for them.
We are an army!
& you can't break us down!
That band, has done so much for me, so so much.
I thank them for everything, so do millions of other people.
I say, lets unite this army!
So speak your shit about My Chemical Romance, because they have half the world to back them up.
We will NEVER stand down, so talk all you want, because we are a strong army!
The more the media say My Chemical Romance is bad...
The more we prove them wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28cfObtxHTw
Fight the war!
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No, i don't think there emo, but the state of mind sounds like it... i think people are just judging them by the clothes that they where. But there really n e thing wrong wih that if they are. Lets fight n e way because the emo music scene is better just as good as hardcore, punk, and metal...
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LOL MAINSTREAM
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I have to say.... the best album ever made was Analphabetapolothology by Cap'n Jazz or Science 1994 discography from Indian Summer. Anyone agree?
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