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July 19, 2008

Courtney Love: Ryan Adams Stole $858k From Frances Bean

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Courtney Love, one of rock's great OG bloggers, posted another brilliant (not brilliant) open letter on MySpace. In it she accuses fellow blogger/musician Ryan Adams of using $858,000 of Frances Bean Cobain's money to fund his 2003 album Rock n Roll, "one of the worst records i can think of in rock and roll history." Ryan's gear, hotels, drugs, dinners at Nobu ... all expensed to Courtney, stolen STRAIGHT OUT OF FRANCES"S TRUST FUND. Courtney has 29 AMEX cards, so it took a few years for her to notice.

Ex-boyfriends Ed Norton, Billy Corgan, and "Gollum" (Jim Barber, who produced Rock n Roll) all get name-checked in the diatribe. (Ryan and Courtney had "very safe sex" too, it is revealed.) A highlight of her overshare:

does that makje youf eel like a big man ? stealing from a suicide? A MARTYRED HERO? ... as God Is My Witness Ryan you will pay back every fucking penny of this. 858,000 dollars for Rock n Roll ? wow you were living large- most people reading this dont even know what record or even artist im referring to , as your just this cult americana wanna be dylan thing-

still shooting smack? hows that going for you?

Full text of Courtney's missive after the jump. She says she'll be in NY next week and is willing to work out a payment plan.

Saturday, July 19, 2008 Ryan Adams you fucking weasel. deal with it.858,00$ Current mood: determined

Listen this is another open letter
this to a beyond mediocre piece of shite- maybe its just my moment to fucking get the knives out of my back,
but in any case between 00 and 04 before ....well a dark pit of shit and fake names and insanity follows with lots and lots of people counting on Kookoo cherry not being able to prove things- and thats for another day- those people have not played chess with me.
But i was sitting with some people going thru the 29 american express cards that i didnt know existed that were connected to a few HUNDRED bank accounts,and there were all the bills for Ryan Adams worst record and one of the worst records i can think of in rock and roll history ironically called"Riock and Roll " and it was paid for by ME and mostly by my child.
and when i met Ryan we had a mild little flirtation, why not? but i made the deathly stupid decision to instead of just have very safe sex with him ( hes pretty dirty and man ive been around but im the virgin mary comparitevly) or make friends. no i fucking pimped my useless , ridiculaously terrible loser "Boyfriend" ( who ironically Edward Norton hates no one any more than this fuck and for good reason , yet Edwards OWN business manager put Barber up on West XXth street kitty corner from Edward, Barber could see into Edwards Apartment, and then he had his own Dean and Deluca account and an ABC Carpetand Home account and spent about 250,000 on furniture and another 600,000 dollars on travel, this loser who hasnt had a job since 98 - while Frances didnt have hardly enough to eat and i sure as hell didnt) i pimped Barber onto Ryan,"oooh hes a great producer"- maybe it wasbnt honourable0 i just wanted Barber gone, so maybe i used Ryan to get him gone,
yeah you listen to this shit im listening to my i tunes on right now who names a record "Rock n Roll" what assholes do that?
with these trebled up guitars my bandmate said sounded like "really horrific rem on steroids" all treble and compresssion and shit wirtten songs - but so what?
well on my amex atthat time the 858 but also from bank accounts....theres 200,000 thousnad dollar checks written to Barber for "comissions" ididnt even know where the fuck he was ! but here on Amex 28 is the entire invoice for Ryan- your ENTIRE album and meals and drugs and Hotels and outboard gear and wasted fabullous guitars STRAIGHT OUT OF FRANCES"S TRUST FUND
So you little shit, maybe you had NO IDEA right? is that why you used a hysterical voice mail of a very terrified and flipped out me- for your worst reviewed record and well deserved too, this record is shite totally one of the worst recordings ive ever heard yet Ryan you YOU spent 858,000 dolllars on this record of MY DAUGHTERS MONEY. so whats your paying me back plan? illbe in New York next week , you can start by working out your payment plan, because i will litiagate your thieving ass from here til eternity, your a thief and i used to think you had some subtsance to you then i find out your being managed or your money is by Victoria Blake? is that POSSIBLE? whata great PAL that lizard like cretin is t o you and i hope you had fun that week in :Jamaica" whilst more of my kids money was being shoved offshore- but thats not the point- Billy may have made my kid cry but i wasn't in the room - he's family and he always will be- he just laid his Billy trip on a person a little too young for it- I'm over it. but YOU RYAN, OWE FRANCES 858<000 dollars , so should isend the amex copies to Blake and he "staff"? because i would enjoy that very much,what a really good friend to leave you with someone whose been diagnosed as an "utter psychotic" by a professional foresnic psychiatrist.
This record sucks i mean WOW!
is this what youd like me to tell my kid a fraction of her money was stolen for this shite "Rock N Roll " cd shall i post the outboard gear and 4 seasons billls and fancy Nobu dinners, ahh so thats why you released two records at once where you getting paid a salary to let Gollum "produce" you cos we both know what a reall fucking genius that guy is, and this isnt about Gollum- hes inthe hands of the professionals, i walk away now knowing everything, all of it , its disgusting and its a fucking nuclear explosion of greed i dont think american history has ever seen but no other artist was ever involved in this scandalous vile behaviour ......but you were and i note to self; you suck on this record with your bile towards me, ande its gutless and cowardly and shit, and you know it,
Pay me back Ryan, Pay Frances back. an dtake my fucking voice off that piece of shit.
everyone in the world knows your giving your all and your all just isnt enough and you just keeep chugging- keep playng mediocre safe music some of wich i like- d an d then i saw these amex bills. it s makes me so sick you used my voice on this, really disgusting and horrific, you knew what they were doing to me and frances, and yet you just spent our money HER money in this specific case- does that makje youf eel like a big man ? stealing from a suicide? A MARTYRED HERO? fun for you. big man. wow. impressive.
Yeah well theres nothing good about suicide and i should know- but to take my near suicidal depression and use it on my daughters paying fo ryour shit record, you get the point you can find me im sure- and ill be happy to work out a payment plan
But as God Is My Witness Ryan you will pay back every fucking penny of this. 858,000 dollars for Rock n Roll ? wow you were living large- most people reading this dont even know what record or even artist im referring to , as your just this cult americana wanna be dylan thing- i think you have value as an artist but as a human your beneath contempt- let me know if im incorrect about the fact that you knew full and well that Barber /Gollum was using my money to pay for your self admitedly shit record- and let me know if i am wrong and your not with Blake, if you are your certainly getting what yousdeserve! no wonder you look like utter shit, and healthy as jaundice, HEY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO DOWN ITS HYSTERICAL. an excellent lyric wouldnt you think.?
still shooting smack? hows that going for you?

Via MySpace. Ryan, we wanna hear your side. E-mail me. Here's the two in happier times, performing "Dark End Of The Street" for some friends and Strokes and anyone watching MTV2 at 4:37 AM on September 22, 2002.

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Oh Sweet C ourtney. Nobody really cares. And you'd better be sure you're absolutely right about all you say, cause you're not good with, you know, like false accusations. This should be between you and him and not you, the world and him. And another thing: every Hole album and caling your late husband a martyred hero? In VERY poor taste. Surprise? Nope.

Posted by: Vista Underground at 07/19/08 10:56 AM | Reply
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What a stupid bitch!

Ryan Adams is a genius - she's just a follower, no talent at all. She only has value as a dead man's missus and that's the only reason she got a record deal.

Doesn't it make you sick that so many people get through their lives with no brains whatsoever?

Posted by: Jonty in reply to Vista Underground's comment at 08/06/08 12:46 PM | Reply
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Courtney Love is a lot of things: Untalented is not one of them. Maybe it's just because I'm a crazy woman too, but I think I understand her need to blog about her finances and her messy social life and things that other people keep private. She can't sing about them, and she needs the release.

The murder thing is hogwash. Courtney's a freak and freaks are very rarely monsters. The person out there throwing food and screaming and causing a scene is unlikely to kill anyone. The real monsters go out of their way to look like everyone else, because their survival depends on it. Sociopaths especially will tailor their image to be exactly the type whom no one suspects.

I admire the woman I really do. Haters need to open their eyes. See past the bluster. Forget your assumptions about loud women and look deeper.

Posted by: Dreamer in reply to Jonty's comment at 11/29/08 7:01 PM | Reply
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It is hard to feel sorry for anyone here but Frances Bean.

Posted by: Greg at 07/19/08 10:58 AM | Reply
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she disgusts me

Posted by: clovesuck at 07/19/08 11:05 AM | Reply
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you don't even know her. all you know is a media representation of her. you know how it works.

Posted by: Jared T profile link in reply to clovesuck's comment at 07/19/08 2:32 PM | Reply
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she wrote this, not the media...just saying...

Posted by: jBoz in reply to Jared T's comment at 07/21/08 11:04 AM | Reply
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"Be careful what you pretend to be because you are what you pretend to be" - kurt vonnegut.

Posted by: dannygutters in reply to jBoz's comment at 07/21/08 12:33 PM | Reply
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Im CorTne Lov,,. i cannt handel My huasbnds finanses,.,. gIVE mee mony!

Posted by: juano at 07/19/08 11:14 AM | Reply
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that child has Kurt Cobain's eyes in such a scary way.

Posted by: JD at 07/19/08 11:17 AM | Reply
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I actually like the album "Rock 'N Roll." Sure, it's not nearly as good as "Heartbreaker" or "Demolition," but I think it fits as a nice contrast between those two and the succeeding albums as kind of a study on that kind of music-making in a more treble, distorted context. The juxtaposition in Adam's output is one of the things I find most appealing about him as an artist.

Posted by: jimmyjim at 07/19/08 11:22 AM | Reply
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I think Rock 'N Roll is one of his best albums. When I first heard it, I thought it was really generic, but the songs all got stuck in my head. I look at the tracklists for some of Ryad's other CDs (especially Gold or Whiskeytown's Strangers Almanac) and I can't think of how some songs go whatsoever.
I think of the album in terms of T. Rex's stuff: Bolan was using a lot of the same material and writing catchy-as-hell songs over and over. It is a solidly rocking album without any exceptions for alt-country whatever, so it alienated audiences, but damn is it good.

Posted by: Jonny B in reply to jimmyjim's comment at 07/19/08 12:16 PM | Reply
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[x] don't care about ryan adams

[x] wishes for Courtney Love to have her tongue cut out, fingers removed and money taken away from her.

Posted by: scary profile link at 07/19/08 11:26 AM | Reply
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Rock'n'Roll may suck, but lest we forget: "On Your Side", from that record, remains light-years ahead of anything that walking herpe has ever written or recorded. And wasn't this all smack-dab in the middle of his Parker Posey obsession? Wasn't she the "exe-cute-ive producer" (I'm not lying, read the credits)?

Posted by: derek at 07/19/08 11:37 AM | Reply
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you mean "So Alive" right?

Posted by: yonan32 in reply to derek's comment at 07/19/08 12:34 PM | Reply
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Yep, I love that song so much that I forgot the damned title. :)

Posted by: derek in reply to yonan32's comment at 07/19/08 5:41 PM | Reply
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ladders

I also like the "Rock N Roll" album. Not sure Courtney Love is in any place to make musical judgements. And how can you not notice that $858,000 disappears until 4 years after the fact? I mean, really.

It's sort of depressing that celebrities use Myspace for "open letters." I thought 13-year-old girls had that covered.

Posted by: ladders profile link at 07/19/08 11:46 AM | Reply
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I feel bad for Frances, but Courtney is a lying sociopathic bitch

Posted by: ladedadedade at 07/19/08 11:47 AM | Reply
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obviously the smack ain't working very well for Courtney.

Posted by: Matthew profile link at 07/19/08 12:09 PM | Reply
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wow. ... "but here on Amex 28 is the entire invoice for Ryan- your ENTIRE album and meals and drugs and Hotels and outboard gear and wasted fabullous guitars..." so considerate (and convenient) that the drug dealer(s) accepted Amex.

Posted by: Lindsay at 07/19/08 12:10 PM | Reply
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Can we just give frances to ryan and call it a wash? Probably best for all parties involved.

Posted by: g-wog at 07/19/08 12:24 PM | Reply
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....A 44-Year-Old Woman blogging on 'MySpace' about her legal accusations.....wow.

I believe if Ryan's innocent, and can prove that, he has more of a case to sue Courtney for defamation.

Also, Ryan Adams seems to have more credibility as an artist with a healthier following than Courtney's ever had with her music. And he didn't even have to marry Kurt Cobain!

Posted by: mark. at 07/19/08 12:46 PM | Reply
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"and when i met Ryan we had a mild little flirtation, why not? but i made the deathly stupid decision to instead of just have very safe sex with him ( hes pretty dirty and man ive been around but im the virgin mary comparitevly)"

What you got there was a true man dear courtney.. just think of it as paying 858,000 for a great male prostitute.

Posted by: Pipe at 07/19/08 12:49 PM | Reply
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I just can't believe she can't spell litigate by now.

Posted by: g at 07/19/08 12:54 PM | Reply
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tactfulcactus

proof that Kurt wrote all her better (that's a stretch) songs, no one can understand her.

I gave up five lines in... this is some da vinci code shit.

Posted by: tactfulcactus profile link at 07/19/08 1:08 PM | Reply
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you wish that were true. is this an excuse just to listen to hole?

Posted by: Jared T profile link in reply to tactfulcactus's comment at 07/19/08 2:29 PM | Reply
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Musically I think Courtney has the upper hand over Ryan. He certainly hasn't written anything as good as "Teenage Whore" or "Retard Girl." His stuff is trad, boring. At least Hole had some genuine excitement to them.

Posted by: inky at 07/19/08 1:49 PM | Reply
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Ryan Adams is heinous. Courtney Love is a genius.

I hope she burns his house down.

Posted by: Patrik at 07/19/08 2:36 PM | Reply
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The Other Matthew

I liked "Rock N Roll," and knowing it pisses off Courtney Love makes it sound just a little better. It's a shame Frances lost out in this, but on the bright side, at least she got her looks from her father.

Also, LOL at the Courtney-lovers going through the comments voting the "haters" down.

Posted by: The Other Matthew profile link at 07/19/08 3:09 PM | Reply
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some "haters" just aren't that smart.

Posted by: Jared T profile link in reply to The Other Matthew's comment at 07/19/08 4:17 PM | Reply
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Has Kurt's ashes been found yet? Maybe that's more important than the 858k?

Posted by: Leo at 07/19/08 4:42 PM | Reply
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no wonder Curt blew his brains out

Posted by: J-Dub at 07/19/08 5:58 PM | Reply
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Didn't Gollum produce her "comeback" album America's Sweetheart? At least Ryan Adams has never had Billy Corgan of all people write entire albums for him.
And if you think Courtney Love has the edge over Ryan you haven't ever listened to Ryan Adams.

Posted by: B at 07/19/08 6:13 PM | Reply
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get your facts straight, billy did not write all of celebrity skin.

Posted by: Jared T profile link at 07/19/08 6:27 PM | Reply
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Oh he didn't? Okay. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Posted by: B in reply to Jared T's comment at 07/19/08 7:50 PM | Reply
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Is it bad that I think Rock and Roll is Ryan Adams best album?
Seriously, that album blew my mind.
Anyway, I think it says A LOT about Courtney Love that she's posting myspace bulletins about this. If this were a real legal issue she would be at her lawyers office right now, not on the internet.
It's all bullshit.

Posted by: John at 07/19/08 6:29 PM | Reply
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If it weren't for Kurt she would have just stayed that oblivious annoying loudmouth histrionic drunk chick that everyone hopes isn't going to show up at their get-together.

"EVERYONE BE QUIET, DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR, FUCKIN' COURTNEY'S OUTSIDE!!!"

Posted by: Chuy profile link at 07/19/08 6:43 PM | Reply
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What wouldn't I give to be able to go four years without noticing that someone had swiped almost a million dollars from one of my accounts? Sad to say, I was far more blessed with intellectual riches than material. If Courtney Love is looking for an editor to polish up her MySpace rants and bestow upon them even a translucent sheen of credibility, or perhaps a tutor in the basic spelling and grammar of the English language so she can at least communicate coherently if not efficiently, I'm available and I charge reasonable rates.

Posted by: Lethe at 07/19/08 7:19 PM | Reply
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hey, Jared T ... maybe just sit the next couple of plays out huh?

Posted by: ryan at 07/19/08 7:51 PM | Reply
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Is this comment in sports terms? Am I getting to be to much for you?

Posted by: Jared T profile link in reply to ryan's comment at 07/20/08 12:03 AM | Reply
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I think Courtney wrote that comment. It is illegible after all.

Posted by: parsons93 profile link in reply to Jared T's comment at 07/20/08 4:41 AM | Reply
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So wait. Let me understand this right. She insults Adams because he hasn't had a job since 1998. Doesn't she have at least a decade on him there? Has Courtney ever held a job that didn't include sleeping with infinitely more talented musicians, using heroin, and generally being a complete burden to society? I'd love to see what her resume looks like.

Another funny thing: she's complaining that Frances hardly had any food to eat. Isn't this more her responsibility than Ryan's given that, y'know, she's actually the girl's mother? Or does she just think of herself as Frances' kooky big sister? I really feel bad for that poor girl.

Posted by: Rob S. at 07/19/08 10:30 PM | Reply
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It's nice to see that I'm not alone in feeling sorry for Frances. But could anyone understand what Courtney was saying?

Posted by: cold one at 07/19/08 10:57 PM | Reply
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i think you might be misinterpreting the bit about sex. the way i read it is INSTEAD of having sex with him (which i guess she assumes people would assume of their relationship), she hooked him up with her then boyfriend.

Posted by: blah at 07/20/08 12:08 AM | Reply
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This just made RnR a classic.

Posted by: J at 07/20/08 12:23 AM | Reply
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katie

serves her right.

moral of the story: don't get involved with disgusting men.

Posted by: katie profile link at 07/20/08 1:46 AM | Reply
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I think Courtney wrote that comment. It is illegible after all.

Posted by: parsons93 profile link at 07/20/08 4:34 AM | Reply
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I think the most important fact to be learned from all this is that once Ryan started hanging with these 'rock stars' he became a bigger asshole than ever. The two of them are probably still annoyed at each other because they never resolved the argument over who was more self-involved and attention-seeking. I don't think anyone could properly answer that. I don't like Rock n Roll and I don't like Courtney Love. I hate not being able to choose sides

Posted by: Mark at 07/20/08 8:46 AM | Reply
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so.....uhm.....Courtney doesn't even realize how far they're playing her here. Am I really the only person that ALWAYS thought RnR was a huge fucking joke that ryan pissed out really fast for his record company to shut them up over Love Is Hell? Sure So Alive is great, but beyond that the only other good songs were meant for Love Is Hell anyway (Rock N Roll and Burning Photographs). It even seemed like they got Auf Der Mar on there to put salt in her wounds (not to Mellisa's knowledge). The production and compression screamed of being a joke.
Everyone knows Gollum/Barber was scum. He was living on Courtney's dime for a really long time. To top it off, he was hyping the followup to America's Sweetheart as being recorded from a prison. That was SO obvious what he was alluding to. I never thought it was serious.
I appreciate Courtney seeking vengeance - but why can't someone take Barber out!!? I doubt Ryan even knew the sessions were paid for with an AMEX card. And why wasn't lost highway paying for any of this? This was the album THEY wanted. I mean usually they don't start recouping 'til the album is out. They made Ryan Adams pay up front!? Of course it all does go back to Universal/Barber/Gollum.
Wow, Billy even made Frances Bean cry!? That guy really has no mercy for anyone. I think Frances should inform him that no matter how hard he tries he'll never be the musician he once was and piss on her copy of BOREGeist.

Posted by: brainsfried at 07/20/08 11:19 AM | Reply
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Brainsfried has it right... Rock N Roll was made as a sarcastic response to Lost Highway's evaluation of the Love is Hell stuff. They claimed it was too morose and that "it wasn't his best work" so he set out to make a record that would be very accessible almost to a fault. He would engage in conversations on the message board on his own site stating his side in all of it and I think some of his writings ultimately made those message boards go away. Whether you like Rock N Roll or not, I think the point of it is that it was a blatant attempt by Ryan to be a little less Dylan and a little more like the Replacements. He wanted to make a record that sounded "happy". I understand that is a little ironic when you consider the song title "Note to self dont die" but coming from a guy who wrote a set of demo recordings called "the Suicide Handbook" I am not sure whether to take any of it seriously or not.

Posted by: ro50 in reply to brainsfried's comment at 07/21/08 10:17 AM | Reply
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Totally agree. Also, maybe no one has mentioned this because it's so obvious, but Rock n Roll definitely did not cost $858,000. Studio time is expensive but not THAT expensive. I'd give it 100lk tops if you include all of the money paid to the producer, techs, musicians, etc.

Posted by: Greg in reply to brainsfried's comment at 07/25/08 12:31 PM | Reply
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Isn't she a bit late? Did she just listen to RockNRoll a couple days ago?

This would be a hilarious lawsuit.

Posted by: msigur2 at 07/20/08 11:38 AM | Reply
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Oh... she's obviously still in love with him. That letter took effort... whatever her talent ever was, the essence of it is in this letter. As for RA... well he's kind of the same exact person. Classic narcissistic attraction... observe the footage.

Posted by: CTA at 07/20/08 12:39 PM | Reply
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It's amazing that we still don't like women talking down about our male rock stars isn't it? Even if it's about a nonentity like Ryan Adams. I still maintain that Courtney is a far more interesting musician than Ryan. I remember seeing Hole around the time of Pretty on the Inside and they were a fucking ferocious band. And yes, I've seen Ryan Adams play a couple of times and listened to most of his albums.

Posted by: inky at 07/20/08 1:01 PM | Reply
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I had one more comment. They think they're thinking their being all Gram P & Keef here, but they're really just two full blown sickos playing in a sandbox that smells like kitty litter.

Posted by: CTA at 07/20/08 1:03 PM | Reply
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I hope this inspires Ryan Adams to start his blog again. I miss his crazy entries and nonsensical videos.

Posted by: michelle profile link at 07/20/08 3:54 PM | Reply
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This just doesn't make sense. There's no way his label wasn't paying for the recording - and there's no way that a Ryan Adams record cost nearly a million dollars to make. Even if Ryan owned the masters and licensed them to Lost Highway - it still wouldn't cost close to a million dollars. Fuck, if it was his money up front, I'm sure Lost Highway didn't pay him a million dollars for the license. This sounds highly improbable.

Posted by: d-w at 07/20/08 5:00 PM | Reply
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Here's what Adams said in a USA Today article published back when RNR came out:


"Whether I have a label behind me or not, I'm going to do this anyway," he says. "I'm going to find the money to make records."

For Rock N Roll, he found the money in his wallet. After tinkering on a four-track recorder in his basement with drummer Johnny T. Yerington, Adams opted for a studio test run.

"I didn't tell the label anything about it," he says. "I just got an idea to go into the studio and see how it sounded on analog tape. I put a weekend of studio time on my credit card and walked out with an 11-song record."

Posted by: Stephen B at 07/20/08 5:15 PM | Reply
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victor

they're both lames. if Courtney really needs money, why doesn't she just go exploit Kurt's name some more.

Posted by: victor profile link at 07/20/08 5:59 PM | Reply
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Who thee heck is Courtney Love that is what this lil ole 51 year ole New Jersey hausfrau wishes to know.

Posted by: soldiermom11x at 07/20/08 6:09 PM | Reply
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Morality lessons from Courtney. Wow. Well done. I think it's time to wrap those lips around something other than Ryan's cock.

Posted by: Ryan at 07/20/08 7:41 PM | Reply
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"does that makje youf eel like a big man ? stealing from a suicide? A MARTYRED HERO? "

this seems like it should be a rhetorical question in her autobiography

Posted by: will at 07/20/08 9:23 PM | Reply
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Didn't she kill her husband?

Posted by: CornFlake at 07/20/08 11:03 PM | Reply
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"Im CorTne Lov,,. i cannt handel My huasbnds finanses,.,. gIVE mee mony!"


This is the only comment that needs to be made, really.

Posted by: EmanuelV at 07/21/08 2:29 AM | Reply
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kreftig

all I know is that Ryan Adams looks like Rick Moranis.

Posted by: kreftig profile link at 07/21/08 8:41 AM | Reply
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I used to be a gigantic Hole/Courtney Love fan back in the day. And then her odd behavior overshadowed the music and I lost interest... Ryan Adams is one of my favorite artists of all time. I love "Rock n Roll" and every other album Ryan has made. Even his "worst" album is a million times better than anything Courtney Love ever made...

Posted by: theEvilAngel at 07/21/08 10:25 AM | Reply
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I think Courtney has obviously had a lot of trouble in her life and if Kurt was here we would not be bashing her so much. There was a reason he fell for her that you all seem to miss, deep down she is a good person I'm sure. She maybe shouldn't have posted this blog she obviously didn't think it through and I honestly never even listened to Ryan Adams or care about his music but if he stole money from a girl I mean c'mon thats just f'd up

Posted by: adam at 07/21/08 1:55 PM | Reply
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Rock and Roll was made to appease Lost highway who thought that "Love Is hell" wasn't commercially viable. They released "Love Is Hell" as two separate EPs. (they are now put back together as a single album, with an extended version of the best song Morrissey never wrote, "does anybody Wanna Take Me home" from Rock N Roll). Love is Hell is fantastic, and Rock N Roll has some great moments.

I still think it is a very good album. Ryan has entire unreleased albums that are better than most of Courtney's output. Suicide Handbook for example. Whiskeytown was fantastic, and pretty much every one of his solo albums are excellent.

Courtney should consult an editor and a lawyer before she goes and rants online.

Posted by: Kurt C. at 07/21/08 3:25 PM | Reply
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Courtney. Ryan. Barrel. Both. Together. Niagra Falls. Goodbye. Forever. Please.

Posted by: The Future at 07/21/08 4:14 PM | Reply
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Uhhh, I think its unbelievable what Love is doing? All of a sudden she noticed that all that money was gone? To me im a huge Ryan Adams fan, and I think she was just probably so fucked up on painkillers and shit she couldnt even manage her own money. She also shouldve made like a secret fucking account if her daughter was so important to her, and its funny that when she was pregnant, she shot up fucking smack. So Note To Courtney Love, Make sure the Story is Straight.

Posted by: LucasH. at 07/21/08 10:35 PM | Reply
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Holy fucking shit. Can anyone actually read that? There has to be some kind of medication for that.

Posted by: jvon at 07/21/08 11:04 PM | Reply
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There's a Visine for that

Posted by: omg in reply to jvon's comment at 07/23/08 12:30 PM | Reply
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"moral of the story: don't get involved with disgusting men."

Spring of '94 I spent quite alot of time with Craig Montgomery (Nirvana's Tour soundman) and if you knew only the little that he told me, you'd change your posture.

Posted by: Seamus at 07/22/08 7:58 AM | Reply
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i believe the disgusting man being referred to was ryan adams, not kurt cobain.

Posted by: aria in reply to Seamus's comment at 07/23/08 9:55 AM | Reply
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"a fucking nuclear explosion of greed i dont think american history has ever seen."
right up there after that time you had your husband murdered before he could have your name removed from his will. FUCKING NIRVANA BITCH!!!

Posted by: corey at 07/22/08 11:40 AM | Reply
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"Courtney Love owes her whole music career to me" -Billy Corgan

Posted by: chris at 07/22/08 1:52 PM | Reply
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Courtney, if your money was taken illegally you obviously have a case with the proof being the AMEX receipts. Posting all of this online is not necessary if your only objective is to get Frances Bean's money back. In case you didn't know it, you had property here in Oly that was repossessed over a year ago because whoever was making payments for you stopped making them. That $858,000 could easily have paid it off.

Posted by: Olympia, WA. at 07/22/08 8:22 PM | Reply
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ElliotP

what the hell? how can her nonsensical rantings really be news?

Posted by: ElliotP profile link at 07/22/08 10:13 PM | Reply
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Courtney Love is crazy, everybody should know by now. She's got serious problems. Ryan Adams could write musical circles around Courtney Love, she would get so dizzy that she would be singing elevator music.

Posted by: chey at 07/22/08 10:41 PM | Reply
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thank golly frances bean paid for that album. what would we do without it?

Posted by: mike jonez at 07/23/08 1:47 AM | Reply
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People's comments are as entertaining as the crazy lady's myspace letter. Thank you! Courtney Love is the Shakespeare of the 21st century.

Posted by: Kristen R. at 07/23/08 1:49 PM | Reply
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as soon as i heard about this whole thing, i went out and bought several copies of Rock and Roll simply because courtney love is an incompetant bitch. i cant believe she is so damn retarded for A) using myspace to try and defame Mr. Adams B) for losing all that damn money without noticing it C) for basically just wasting 10 minutes of my llife that i can never have back. i'm going to be sitting on my deathbed one day thinking "Oh God, if i could only have back that 10 minutes i spent trying to decipher the angry rants of a 10 year old middle aged woman."

and even if ryan adams did steal all that money, that just makes him more badass. like the kind of shit i want to see in a movie. putting bitches like Love in thier places like this is Chuck Norris status.

and i met Ryan Adams. Hes quite a gentleman. not a dirty nasty piece of trash.

fuck you courtney.

Posted by: David at 07/24/08 4:29 PM | Reply
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she is a LOSER. I feel sorry for Kurt Cobain. He had married and had a child with someone who is as fake as her nose. If you read interviews from them before his death she sounds nothing like she is now. Both of them at the time took a stand agaisnt conventional society and all its crap. WHich i find ironic considering she turned out to be really every thing Kurt Cobaine hated. She is pathetic with her name dropping. She is trully a big fat bloated tick on Kurt's corpse.

Posted by: Kurt at 07/25/08 10:32 AM | Reply
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I'm shocked by all this! I thought Courtney Love died of an overdose a few years ago? Isn't she the one who stole Kurt Cobains music/lyrics after she killed him? Ryan Adams is a musical genius compared to her.

Posted by: SkylarGirth at 07/25/08 1:45 PM | Reply
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Courtney, I didn't steal your money. You said I could have it.

Posted by: Ryan at 07/27/08 6:48 PM | Reply
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Frances better learn to play guitar soon or she's gonna be turning tricks for the mistress any day now. Someone has to feed the monkey.

Posted by: Bradley at 07/28/08 7:41 PM | Reply
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This has been has 29 american express cards?
Why?
Why is there one attached to her daughter's trust fund? What bright bulb is guiding their finances who would green light this supremely stupid move?
Someone should step in a protect the kid's inheritance from her brain dead mother so she might actually see some of it.

Posted by: karlosi at 07/31/08 3:39 PM | Reply
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Brothers and sisters, can't we just join hands on this one? They are BOTH selfish, talentless, STD-ridden, smack-addicted wastes-of-time who rip EVERYONE off for their 'art' and should be kept away from ALL children, as they are completely unfit for parenting (let alone rocking).
It's been clearly obvious for years, and we all know it.

Posted by: matt edison at 08/01/08 7:29 PM | Reply
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Most of you on here are probably little tweens who love who ever the hll this ryan adams guy is....Mrs. Cobain is one of, if not THE, most talented grunge rocking woman in the world and of all time. See if any of you wanna bes knew anything about the 90's scene (but since you all were probably in diapers you don't) you'd know who Court really is and what she is about. She has her ups and downs but since most of you worship crap like Britney "no-talent" Spears you wouldn't know a real pioneer of female rock if it smacked you in the face. Courtney Love is an awesome, strong woman who has had a tough life and she doesn't need you people who know nothing about her calling her names. In some ways I really wish the media wouldn't report on her anymore because people like you on here have no idea what the 90's were like and what Courtney was like and how she was loved when Kurt was around. Or how she tried to make his fans understand why he took his own life. So you all need to back the off of her because unless you know something, really actually know something about the time she was popular, about her husband and about her music and her life you need to shut your ignorant pie holes. I wouldn't doubt some no talent hack named Ryan Adams stole Frances money. After all why would anyone call themselves Ryan Adams when there is a famous Bryan Adams, obviously because he has no talent and just hopes people will mix his name up with Bryan's and accidentally buy his record. You all should just back off.

Posted by: Surgey at 08/10/08 9:36 PM | Reply
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so so funny. who cares. i know where i was in the early 90s. and i def know who courtney love was abck then and who she is now. i also know what a talent ryan adams is. if you actually listened to his work youd kn now that. you should also cut courtney some slack and not make her out to be some poor misunderstood martyred bitch. it doesnt do her any favours. she knows whats shes doing. and she gets a kick out of it. who wouldnt? she amuses the heck out of me and ive been fan since pretty on the inside. i have nothing bad to say about her except perhaps she should keep some things to herself. but hey! who hasnt said stuff they shouldnt have? courtneys audience is just a bit bigger than ours i reckon. so cheers courtney... and girl, make that next album your best yet.

Posted by: cate in reply to Surgey's comment at 01/03/09 6:52 AM | Reply
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Rock 'n' Roll's a great album!
So Alive ROCKS!

Posted by: Matthew Rodgers at 08/11/08 7:03 AM | Reply
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Rock n' Roll is dead.
Frances Bean needs a suitable parental guardian.
I need a $ 50,000 grant (no more, no less).
The world needs Jesus.


Any questions?

Posted by: Derek at 08/18/08 3:28 AM | Reply
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Dear Widow Cobain; the party is over; turn out the lights as no one cares anymore.

Posted by: Jim at 09/02/08 9:00 AM | Reply
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I still can't get past the fact that she shot Kurt Cobain. Go Ryan Adams.

Posted by: RYan at 05/08/09 12:08 PM | Reply
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are you SERIOUS?

wow. I'm sorry you feel that way, but you're the one missing out.

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