Courtney Love Still Pissed At Ryan Adams, Blogging About It
There's a follow-up to Courtney's MySpace bulletin from Saturday which accused Ryan Adams of emptying Frances Bean Cobain's trust fund, leaving her with hardly enough to eat. It's titled "Dante's Inferno" and attempts to convince us that her story is not implausible it could happen to anyone yes there were 74 visa cards in addition to the 29 amexes and mark lanegan is totally underrated.
so it took 5 years YES to get all 29 amexes sorted through and an absolute time line, so WHAT? have YOU ever willingly ever had 29 amexes? NO! me neither. and when you see a passing "Guitar Center" charge on an amex if your a musician do you double check it?
There is more of course...
NO! so i had to got o my production manager as that year was especially horrific, and we made a time line, you have NO idea what that few years was like for us, and you'll all get it soon, as its just a terrible descent into Dante's Inferno and because i simply do not suspect evil in people, so if some loser is making two albums unlikely as it seems at once and there's charges for entire outboard gear , fabulous dinners while i scrounged to feed my child - well sorry but I'm fucking PISSED, that's that. Ive tried to "communicate" but am i really supposed to call or write or have a lawyer call or write the former "Business Manager" who applied for the 74 Visas and 29 amexes and enabled all this insanity and say "oh out of the XX,XXXXX you stole would you mind paying for some suck ass indie album" how does one do that? i had a very heavy evening but since we are becoming terrifyingly great, I'm happy to oblige you Gawker people for about oh one more millisecond. Otherwise we are amazing and I'm listening to Lanegan in the wee hours very loud, and he as always is so underrated and so fucking evocative and an American Treasure, and i wonder what hes up to. not an indie record which sucks, not anything he does. NOT TRYING TO BE DYLAN! just trying and succeeding i hope you'll agree at finding my voice its alright ma, im only bleeding Corkaroonie
Ryan Adams hasn't e-mailed me his side of the story, but reader Stephen B helpfully points to this old RA interview from USA Today:
"Whether I have a label behind me or not, I'm going to do this anyway," he says. "I'm going to find the money to make records."For Rock N Roll, he found the money in his wallet. After tinkering on a four-track recorder in his basement with drummer Johnny T. Yerington, Adams opted for a studio test run.
"I didn't tell the label anything about it," he says. "I just got an idea to go into the studio and see how it sounded on analog tape. I put a weekend of studio time on my credit card and walked out with an 11-song record."
i.e., one of them is full of shit.
Posted at 9:57 AM by Scott in Where's The Beef?
Tags: Courtney Love | Ryan Adams
Ryan Adams SUCKS!! Courtney may be an over the hill washed up junkie bitch, but I still believe her.
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i.e. Courtney is still a lying bitch and is full of shit
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Pure speculation, but she strikes me as the kind of person that prides herself on how open and honest she is... the only problem is her particular version of reality.
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The "Rock 'N' Roll"/"Love Is Hell" recording sessions are worth a hell of a lot more than whatever drugs Courtney would have bought.
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Well said. Even if you don't like Ryan Adams, that's the truth.
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Of all her word choices, typos, etc., I find her use of "time line" to be the most perpexing. Courtney, go ahead and compund that bitch to "timeline" for me, cool?
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perpexing? compund?
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who gives a shit who gives a fuck. she exactly didn't earn that money from her own talent cause she's never had any. she did what almost every woman in America does and married for it. don't feel sorry for frances either...all we need is another useless trust fund baby in this country.
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american women marry for money? nice blanket statement, you sexist ignoramus.
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Kurt should have stayed alive if only to spare his child from Courtney. Poor girl has been raised by a junkie-infant that wants a lot of attention.
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sure.. kurt would have been a GREAT father.
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i don't know ryan adams's msuic very well but i went to see him live about a year ago and it was one of the best shows i've ever seen.
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Thanks for the shout out in the post.
I don't know a lot about credit cards, but can you even spend that much on a single credit card that isn't an AmEx black card (and wouldn't it be difficult even with one of those)?
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It's hard to believe that her daughter is "going hungry" when she's 15 and carrying bags and wearing shoes that cost into the thousands? Confused.
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where are kurts ashes courtney? before you start throwing around blame, take a good look in the mirror. you are a fucking train wreck.
do people still take anything she says seriously? everything she touches turns into trash.
court love=yoko ono
and if forced to chose, id take yoko
but the thought sends shivers
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that's the most cliche and ill fitting comparison i've ever heard. kudos, friend.
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Top 5 Things Yoko Ono and Courtney Love Have In Common.
5) Both have voices that can kill grass
4) Both ignorantly think that they have talent as musicians.
3) Both live off the fame (and fortune) of their dead husbands
2) Both helped screw up their husband’s lives/careers
1)Both are a living anti-drug commercial. The message, "do drugs and you could wake up married to this!"
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Yoko may not have musical talent, but she's a very talented avant-garde artist and renowned for her Dada-ist works. Courtney has no artistic talent of any kind. Comparing the two is ridiculous.
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fluxus... not dada. the art school nerd in me had to fix that.
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what gives you the authority to say that courtney love has "no talent of any kind"? have you read any of the poetry she wrote at the age of fucking twelve, or ever listened to a hole album without cutting yourself over the loss of your precious heroin riddled pop star? i doubt it.
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is that her daughter in that pic? she looks well fed to me
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Bullshit, Live Through this is better than anything Nirvana ever put out. Yeah...I said it.
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that's just retarded.
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Even if that were true (which it's not), everyone knows Kurt ghost wrote a fair portion (if not the entirety) of that album. Just liked Billy Corgan did with their next album. The woman has no talent whatsoever as a musician (she wasn't half-bad as an actress, though).
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so, you read Chunklet's "Overrated Book"?
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without a doubt.
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AMEN!
In Utero and Nevermind are great albums but I'm sure I've listend to Live Through This more than those two combined.
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I still can't understand what she's saying.
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Trying to decide which one of them to believe is like trying to decide what condiments to put on a shit sandwich.
And, for my money, the truth is probably somewhere in between, as I'm sure Courtney spent NONE of Frances' money on drugs or lipo or collagen. /sarcasm.
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It's so funny that this woman sparks so much stupidity in people. to think she has no artistic talent is bullshit, she did and lived more than kurt and most of you fucks who think she is nothing but a drugged out flake who just lives off kurt's money. hole's albums sold fairly well altogether selling millions of copies. and if she was wanting tons of money off of kurt, don't you think nirvana songs would have ended up in more movies? don't you think nirvana would have been held on this pedestal just like jesus and sold post death. well I know some fans like to think so, and wish to blame courtney either way it goes. I'm sorry though because dave and krist have a say in it to. everyone wants to look past the possible, and accuse guilt and on such personal levels that you yourselves become the tabloids success. congrats. it's you dumb patriarchs that think women like courtney are the downfall of men. when it's over drugged abusive weak men that do it to themselves. I'm sorry but kurt was using more and trying to die, and if anything nirvana got better after kurt met dave and courtney. sorry to burst your bubble. so you know no truth.
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Courtney?
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okay. forget what i said yesterday about sitting the next couple plays out. why don't you just take the week off?
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lol
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You really think Courtney is living off of the success of Hole records? Courtney outright admits in the blog post that the money in Frances Bean's trust fund is Nirvana money.
And Nirvana was better before Courtney and Dave? Have you heard Bleach? This trippy Bizarro world you live in sounds a lot like hell.
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yeah, I have heard bleach, and the drumming vastly improves when dave joins nirvana. and yes, living off of hole, and her movie royalties, and the fact that she has a recording contract, and has had recording contracts shows that she has money being given to her be these record companies so she can pay for things. i.e a job. and the money in frances' trust fund is kurt's money and royalties, not nirvana's. and courtney has every right to use the money given she is the legal guardian and mother of frances. not to mention she was married to him up until he died. so I guess that means she does recieve money from that. it's law.
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you only get movie royalties if they play the movie, they don't play her movies that often.
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so they don't play a couple of milos formans greatest movies "man on the moon" and "the people vs larry flynt" that often? are you kidding me?
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dude, what are you talking about? who's "they"?
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So the drumming improved on Nevermind, what does Courtney have to do with that?
I find it funny that, as you say, Courtney has so much money of her own, yet she had to sell 25% of her stake in Nirvana to a company for $50 million. I'm sure Kurt would be very happy about some former record label CEO owning more of his band's publishing than the guys who were actually in the band.
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Courtney had nothing to do with the drumming getting better. I'm just saying they didn't get worse, and she didn't ruin nirvana. that yoko ono comparison is sexist and complete bullshit.
and you are sure kurt would not be happy about her selling 25% of her stake in nirvana? I'm sorry but I don't think courtney was at all too happy when he went and shot himself in the head leaving courtney and frances to deal with that. If anything she deserves that fucking money. Kurt was just selfish in that regard I suppose.
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comparing courtney and yoko has absolutely nothing to do with sexism or chauvinism, perhaps from some other assholes perspective, but not from mine. they are both lying, manipulative, selfish, deceivers. that is my perspective, given the "facts" as we know them.
people who continue to hold courtney love up as some kind of proto-punk feminist icon, those peole make me a little sad. because i wish she was worthy of such a claim. but she is not. her sordid story speaks for itself.
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If your "facts" are what courtney and yoko have in common, then you must be pretty blind and pathetic.
5. You know how many rock stars have bad voices, bad reason.
4. kurt wasn't that great either, so why even bother mentioning this.
3. this is just too stupid.
2. Kurt screwed up his own career by offing himself
1. also pretty stupid, some of the most well respected musicians are in and out of rehab, or have been heavily into drugs in the past.
now get a life because I am having too much fun doing this.
and I do think it is pretty sexist to pen blame on a woman for something a weak man does,
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Am I the only one in SHOCK that Courtney Love would throw a casual reference to Dante's Inferno into one of her otherwise mind-numbing rants? I know it's basic cultural literacy and all, but Courtney doesn't strike me as particularly cultured OR literate.
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yes you are. then again...
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I've found, to my surprise that me and Courtney Love agree one two things:
1.Rock N Roll is a shitty album, especially by RA's standards
2. Mark Lanegan rocks. And it's ridiculous that she isn't aware of the Gutter Twins, otherwise she'd know what he's up to. She's too fucking smacked off her head, that's what's wrong.
Also her daughter looks like a fat little bitch and there's no way she was starved. End.
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Francis Bean's face is round, she is in no way "a fat bitch", as you say. In fact she actually has a really great body/figure. (if anything on the too skinny side)
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Erasmus of Rotterdam: If ever a woman wants to be thought wise she only succeeds in being doubly foolish
much the case with this lady
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Wait, isn't Courtney's ex-boyfriend/manager Jim Barber, the one she hooked up with Ryan, to blame for this, if it's true? I imagine it would be easier for him to swindle any money from her than some dopey country rocker. And I have to say, as rubbish as it is, I'd still take Rock N Roll over Courtney's last solo album.
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jared t is for sure cuntney. She used the sexist card over kurt until the day he died(was murdered).
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only stupid wishful thinking idiotic fucked up people think kurt killed himself. stop trying to fool yourself into thinking he didn't. it's getting a bit ridiculous.
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that's funny. First sentence I meant to say was murdered, not killed himself.
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maybe because kurt would beat her around when he was high. and say what you want about the so-called falsity of that statement. one of the many times kurt was hospitalized for a suicide attempt, he wrote courtney a note saying that he couldn't live with the way he was treating everyone, including her... but clearly, the most important part of this story is the MULTIPLE hospitalizations. he wanted to die for a long, long time, and he brought it amongst himself.
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This is epic.
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"well sorry but I'm fucking PISSED, that's that. Ive tried to 'communicate' but am i really supposed to call or write or have a lawyer call or write the former 'Business Manager' who applied for the 74 Visas and 29 amexes and enabled all this insanity and say "oh out of the XX,XXXXX you stole would you mind paying for some suck ass indie album" how does one do that?"
YES! It's $858,000!!!!! That's more money than most folks in this town earn in a lifetime! Regardless of who did it, it is obviously a felony conviction waiting to happen. Stealing from anyone isn't cool, but when someone steals from you while you're at a low point in your life is certainly not someone who will return a cent without legally being forced into it.
Courtney, Of course only you and whoever used your credit cards know the details of this whole fiasco, but certainly you must know that contacting a lawyer will help you recover Frances Bean's money sooner than posting a diatribe about it.
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It's difficult to believe that Adams (who had a record deal) would have stole $800,000 for the tongue and cheek Rock N Roll album. The only reason the album was recorded was because his record company wouldn't release "Love is Hell."
She's probably just upset people don't care what she has to say anymore. Adams is still producing music people care about.
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man, throwback arguments
COURNTEY'S A BITCH!
KURT WAS MURDERED!
i think that...
if you're a kurt cobain fan then you would respect his choice in his wife, also, over all the heroin and shit, if you respect him as a person and realize he had a heart and used it, why would you think that he wasted it on a murderer or whatever?
two, i like courtney and i like hole and billy corgan sucks, and ryan adams is alright, and i like nirvana, and i like kurt cobain, so
fuck you guys
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courtney's a dumb bitch. starving kids are in africa.
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I don't know enough about Kurt and Courtney to have much of an opinion one way or the other, but so far as I know there's no real evidence that he was murdered. Still, Eric, otherwise intelligent, respectable people get into foolish, dangerous relationships all the time. Creative genius doesn't always come hand in hand with common sense - and who among us has never fallen hard for someone who may not have been the "sensible" choice, and acted in ways we were later ashamed to admit? Kurt's love for Courtney doesn't prove anything about their relationship - I'd like to think they had something real, but people who should know better fall into self-destructive relationship spirals every day.
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All I want to know is, how the hell does Courtney Love get these awesome boyfriends? Edward Norton, Ryan Adams, Trent Reznor, Billy Corgan...she just latches onto fame like a leech. Do I have to do lots of coke and bleach my hair so I can get some star action?
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I hate to say this, but if you're trying to get some action with a guy who was willing to be with Courtney Love (and do you really wanna take up where she left off?), the answer is probably yes. Brings new meaning to the slogan "Things go better with Coke," doesn't it?
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Rock N Roll is better than anything Courtney Love made. Also, Frances obviously isn't starving. Man she is an idiot.
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Blogging is great, it can get a message out. However, one might think it best to take care of this million $ issues in court before you go off and say things that might hurt the case in court. If this were real and not a good try at getting media exposure it would have gone down in court and then we would hear about it. now that it's become so well known i would think it hard to bring a case against Ryan Adams now.
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It's hard to have sympathy for her when she's squandered counts amount of money on herself, and resorted to shilling Nirvana's music to commericals for video games, etc. Seems pretty selfish.
Also, Live Thrugh This is the best Nirvana album. Zing!
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You believe that crack whore???
Ryan Adams is the most talented singer songwriter probably since springsteen, what the fuck has courtney love given us besides an embarrassing drug fueled blur of shit songs, shit acting and everything else she sets her sights on.
when she goes down its hysterical!
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