Oasis Have An Opinion On Radiohead's Politics
I know this will shock your lightning, but said Opinion is rather negative. Since blasting Radiohead is currently en vogue, and three makes a trend, here's this bit via Details:
They're [Radiohead] middle-class boys worrying about pushing an envelope somewhere, and all that carbon footprint and all that bollocks. Every time there's a polar bear on his tiptoes on an ice cube in the middle of the Antarctic, you know whose fault that is? Rock stars'. That's their fault. Any time there's food running out somewhere-- 'Let's do a gig. That'll sort it out. Let's do a big fucking gig. Let's fly everybody in from all over the world and pontificate to poor people about how they should be saving the planet.' Go fucking kiss my ass. It's very easy to just say, 'We're going to become difficult now and challenge our audience.' I like my audience. They paid for my swimming pool. I'm not fucking challenging anybody.
Certainly not the first time he's gone after Radiohead, but I think ultimately Noel's still sore about that "Wonderwall" piss take from years back. In more surprising Oasis Have An Opinion news, Mr. Gallagher likes something: Ryan Adams. (It's mutual.)
Posted at 2:30 PM by amrit in Where's The Beef?
Tags: Oasis | Radiohead | Ryan Adams
yeah. helping the less fortunate is so put on. fuck those poor bastards. i want more bentleys.
OASIS IS THE BIGGEST TWAT EVER.
they need to get over themselves and shut their fucking traps.
and most surprisingly to me is that Noel said this! i thought Liam was the leader of all the douchebaggery they decided to piss and moan about.
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He has a point actually. He's saying Radiohead has an Al Gore-style hypocrisy problem... "let's do 'save the planet' benefits and talk about how we should conserve and feed poor countries... by spending more money and jet fuel on each event than some of these countries do in a year!" And basically the only thing it accomplishes is all the "activists" can feel good about themselves.
Noel's a douche. There's no denying that. But he's also right.
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You might also want to check out http://www.oasisinet.com/Diary.aspx, which is supposedly Noel's tour diary. I say "supposedly," because in the past he's admitted to being dyslexic and a bit of a Luddite when it comes to technology. Not saying he hasn't been able to catch up, but those posts seem a bit too tidy and thought-out to be his own work. Still, whether or not he actually wrote (or dictated) them, they're still pretty hilarious.
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ha.ha. Noel's comments amuse me. He's honest.
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yeah you're so very right! he is funny for the fact he is a moron. polar bears live in the arctic. duh. and honest about what?! being stupid...sure. go back to listening to the new kids. LOSER!
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Polar bears live in the Arctic not the Antarctic, which unfortunate as they would be really fat from eating penguins.
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Its not JUST rockstar's faults that make up the CLIMATE CRISIS!!!! ITS EVERYBODIES FAULT!!!! What I loser!!! Why does it always sound like the two retarded brothers from oasis have to complain about something irrelevant?? "Radiohead makes a point about carbon footprints- that it's challenging. Why does Radiohead want to challenge the poor people?"
Well let me tell you - BECAUSE RICH PEOPLE MAKE UP 2% of the population! The poor people have and will always be the ones to make the changes.
Maybe they need to stop thinking they are so noble. Go back to your roots. Join us poor people or perhaps just try to get back int touch with the poor people. You're not noble.
Maybe thats why they havent wriiten a good record since the 90's.
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hahahahaha.
noel's a funny and honest dude.
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As "shocking" as your brutal honesty may be, Noel.. I'm not "digging" your new track, or album for that matter.
Here's hoping his obvious attempt at publicity eventually leads to something rewarding to the ears.. sounding a bit bleak so far, though..
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You haven't even heard the album so stfu.
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McCain/Gallagher '08!
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Wow, the Beatles comparisons are just peeling away after the years, arent they?
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@Flargimmer
LOL! Yeah okay, like you have even heard the entire album. There's two tracks out so far and no sign of an album leak, so I very much doubt you have heard the album already. Maybe think before you talk next time? Idiot.
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Who would ever think Noel Gallagher would be short-sighted, idiotic and trying to get attention?
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At least Radiohead's songs aren't shitty enough to get covered by Ryan Adams.
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Have you heard of John Mayer, idiot.
He covers Kid A.
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not many who read this site have a sense of humor or can stand another band taking a shot at radiohead.
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Wait... was this an endorsement for McCain?
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how is this funny? is he being serious? i think so. thats not funny. id say my humor is top notch. i find morons stick together. perhaps thats why they're sticking up for this idiot and his rantings on a successful band. jealous maybe? i think the climate problem isnt funny at all. polar bears are gonna be gone in a less than a decade. how is that funny. please go play some more video games. you're not usefull to society
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This is so fuking boring......
Oasis is about as relevant as American idol, or the republican/democratic party.
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Damn right they're not challenging anyone...that's why they haven't made a relevant album in a decade.
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There's an element of truth to what he says, but he's still a huge twat who will never be as awesome as Radiohead.
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It appears as though most people don't have the ability to understand what he's saying no matter how simple it is. Go back and read it.
He's saying that it's hypocritical for someone who lives a rich lifestyle like a rockstar to tell everyone else what to do. He's also ripping on musicians because rather than going out into the world and doing work, they just hold concerts and hide behind the "I'm getting the message out" defense. There's too many message deliverers and not enough people acting. Anyway, he doesn't give a shit about the issue, which sucks, but at least he's not claiming to give a shit while he behaves like an ass.
Now, I'm not saying Radiohead deserves this, but there are plenty of bands out there that do. I think that despite being possibly pointed at the wrong people, he still brings up a good point. I mean what do you expect from Noel Gallagher, to publicly praise someone? Stop being so damned insecure about people not liking your favorite band. If you really thought they were good, you wouldn't give a s*** what other people think.
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It makes all the difference that he's directing an attack at people who don't deserve it.
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Umm...when did Radiohead ever play a huge benefit concert? I admire his sense of humor, but get your facts straight boi !
And it's not like anybody takes anything he says seriously, right? This sort of thing happens ever time Oasis release an album....just laugh it off and move along :)
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I'm really confused as to what shows the guy's even talking about--it's not like they did Live Earth or any stupid bullshit like that, and in fact when they did "House of Cards" for Conan, they opted not to fly all the way to New York to eschew carbon emissions and taped the performance instead. In addition, I don't know how many Radiohead shows Gallagher has been to recently (or ever), but I've been to 3 in the last year, and not once did they mention anything about global warming. In short, fuck an Oasis.
But it needs to be said that we should try to separate his stupidity from his lack of musical talent--the fact that Oasis' records suck, always have sucked, and always will suck is irrelevant to the invalidity of his poorly-constructed argument. Let's just be fair, is all
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uh noel liking ryan adams is so not news
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/32459-ryan-adams-oasis-do-each-other
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haha, "since blasting radiohead is currently en vogue."
fuck the hold steady and oasis, nobody likes that crap anyways.
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At least Radiohead hasn't been making the same album over and over since 1995.
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Its funny how if someone hates radiohead they get blasted on here, no matter what they're saying. Radiohead fans are funny
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^Naw, I don't think it's just that. Radiohead that many people consider to be the best band in the world. Stereogum covers lots of bands, and lots of really good bands, but not many of them inspire the kind of largescale adoration that Radiohead does.
So, it follows that if someone makes a negative remark about Radiohead, the reaction will be far more volatile and volumnious than if someone slags some other band.
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Perhaps Noel's aversion to rock stars flying to a "big fucking gig" stems from bitterness at the unlikelyhood of his band ever garnering sufficient support outside the UK to justify aerial jaunts of their own.
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This just in: Oasis still a bunch of fucking morons.
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Could this blog maybe have a no oasis policy for at least the next two weeks?
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Touché. Even ignoring the Antarctic gaffe, polar bears would never be found "on an ice cube in the middle" of the polar zone. The middle would be roughly around the actual pole and polar bears live at the perimeter by the ocean where all the delicious seals are.
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This just in....Radiohead's music is still boring.
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i wish noel g would tell us his feelings on pretty much everything.
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I wonder if Scott, Amrit and co take bets on how many people will comment on any given "ROCK STAR INSULTS RADIOHEAD" story.
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oasis are gay, radiohead are gay, you are all gay. i am not a homophobe.
sorry, i think you're all lovely really
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Hey,when's the last time Oasis had a number one album in the States? Oh wait..they've never had one. Game. Set. Match Radiohead. Just keep driving those expensive cars into pools Noel.
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Wow I didn't even realize I threw the word 'album' in there.. .. edit function would be stellar, yeah?
No, I haven't heard it.. but if their latest track is any sign of the record ahead, I'm gonna be a bit let down.
So.. my bad? Let's just high five this one off, shall we?
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What's being lost on you idiots is that he's commenting on the absurdity of how wasteful these concerts are and how little they do to make a difference. He's not saying that RADIOHEAD played those specific shows, he's saying their attitude has lead to every rock band on the planet feeling they need to be involved in the recent spate of "awareness" shows. Does a bunch of musicians getting all dolled up for a day out on the town lecturing others about poverty actually fix poverty? All those people at the shows drinking water out of plastic water bottles fight global warming?
Perhaps another quote by Mr. Gallagher should be examined:
"Correct me if I'm wrong, but are they hoping that one of these guys from the G8 is on a quick 15-minute break at Gleneagles and sees Annie Lennox singing "Sweet Dreams" and thinks, 'Fuck me, she might have a point there, you know?' And Keane doing "Somewhere Only We Know" and some Japanese businessman going, 'Aw, look at him… we should really fucking drop that debt, you know.' It's not going to happen, is it?"
Noel's got a point, folks.
And now, some articles from 2006:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2006/jun/30/internationalaidanddevelopment.g8
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1535470/20060629/u2.jhtml
And here's an article from 2007:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0403/poor.html
As to the fool above that says Oasis has released the same album over and over, apparently you haven't actually listened to any of their albums. Hell, the first two albums don't even sound alike let alone the 5 since...
And finally, this little gem...
"Perhaps Noel's aversion to rock stars flying to a "big fucking gig" stems from bitterness at the unlikelyhood of his band ever garnering sufficient support outside the UK to justify aerial jaunts of their own."
On their last North American tour, Oasis sold out two nights at the Hollywood Bowl, one night at MSG and one night at the Tweeter Center outside of Boston. That's about 72k people in four shows. Want to tally up the rest of the North American tour? Perhaps Japan? Australia? South America? Get a clue.
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shocking news! The oasis guy is total fucking publicity whore douchebag cuz his band has sucked since 95. Seriously can someone just fucking gag him already??
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"I like my audience. They paid for my swimming pool. I'm not fucking challenging anybody."
And for this reason Noel is why your simplistic music blows and no one gives a fuck about you.
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if i had written wonderwall and not reckoner, i'd be cranky and stupid too.
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It seems to me like Radiohead's status as a band somehow presents them as standing on moral high ground to fans. In criticising Noel, all of you Radiohead-ites seem to prove his point, in that you are siding with Radiohead due to them being rock stars, rather than making your own mind up about the situation. Bringing Noel's success as an artist into the debate corrupts the whole thing, diverting from the matter at hand, again proving that celebrity is what really matters to you people. I don't get why Stereogum does this, posting anything someone says against Radiohead, just so that said person can get mocked and scorned for having their own point of view.
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way to go on reading the entire situation entirely wrong.
i'll clarify for you: it is entirely aggrevatinng to read about idiots in subpar bands rail against a band that is arguably the best band in the world.
i don't need the media or other music fans to tell me this. i have a brain. and two ears.
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Way to go on getting aggravated about what someone thinks about a band. If that's the extent of your clarification, I'll take a leaf out of your book and pay no heed to a music fan whose range of vision is limited to people railing on Radiohead.
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oasis have opinions???
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oasis.
radiohead.
enough said.
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It must hurt when another band releases an album for "pay what you like" and makes more money than you when you sell it for $15. The real difference between oasis and radiohead is talent. radiohead is a group of amazing musicians that are able to constantly reinvent themselves and push the boundaries of conventional music, whereas oasis... has wonderwall. Congrats Liam and Noel on being the crappiest band to not have released a good track in 10 years, but somehow managing to stay in the news. Rock on!
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Radiohead makes headlines through intensely beautiful, thought-provoking, inventive music.
Oasis makes headlines for trashing musicians that are way better than they'll ever be. How embarrassing that this is the only way they can get any attention.
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Through this post, I think I read the word "Radiohead" enough since last hearing their music to realize how dumb a name it is, but I digress.
It's clear that Noel was just trying to make a point about the environmental hypocrisy of holding a large festival to raise awareness, but first I guess he decided to take a dig at Radiohead because him and his brother are a petty pair of tits. I agree with his point (although, it's definitely not an original one), but Radiohead don't deserve that kind of criticism. As someone else said, they did tape their performance for the environmental Conan show and they've never had anything to do with those big, ridiculous festivals. They do essentially the same thing that Oasis do, but they have an unrelated environmental agenda, and apparently there's something wrong with that.
Oasis are pretty much Britney Spears. No one has heard their music in years, but they're still famous because of the press. The only difference is that Oasis have to find attention by taking unnecessary shots at other bands or undermining an entire genre of music (like the Glastonbury incident). Stereogum, you need to realize that you're perpetuating fame that people don't deserve. A couple years back, I thought this blog was better than a tabloid rag.
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Oasis, the combined members, have slightly less talent than what could be found in 1 ounce of Thom Yorke's ball sweat. I don't think Radiohead gives a shite about what a broken record is saying. Much less, a crowd of idiots that don't know good music when they hear it.
RADIOHEAD = Millionaires yes, though still, at the least, trying to voice social and eco injustice - while reinventing their music and addressing the amount of waste associated with the major touring industry.
OASIS = Bitching about RADIOHEAD from their swimming pool - worried about the large amount of WASTE at their shows - though puzzled by the lack of people.
If you like the song, "Wonderwall" - you'll love everything else by OASIS!
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Leave everything about the bands in question music/albums to the side for a moment.
i think we can all appreciate that being cynical is part of being a musical artist in the first place, but why must NG's attitude towards RH trying to raise environmental awareness be so negative? What does that accomplish? He seems to be proud of the fact that he doesn't care about anything, that he or his band aren't interested in branching out in any way. i doubt you signed a contract that said you can only write music and that's it, Noel. The point about trying to turn around the disaster we've laid on our ecosystem is that it takes all of us. RH reaches a wide audience and people listen to them, so why not mention it? They aren't forcing anyone to plant a tree to buy in rainbows, they're just suggesting it.
i, for one, have no problem with that. If oasis wants to suggest people should spray until empty a couple of aerosol cans just to prove how little you care before buying their next album then so be it, he's free to do so. For everyone that says he "has a point," what exactly IS his point? i'm interested in what useful information anyone is getting out of him here.
And as partial as i'd like to be here, his comments seem to be oozing jealousy.
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All musicians should strive to reach the excellence of songs like "Champagne Supernova" that mean absolutely nothing, and are completely forgotten after its one year of pop radio play.
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seriously? "game, set , match"? you judge a band on the number of hit records?
that's the dumbest thing i've ever read hear.
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75k at 4 concerts? Oh my, what a large number.
Radiohead's Montreal concert attracted 35k in one night alone.
So I'd say the jealousy factor can still be considered.
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Radiohead is for music geeks who don't actually enjoy music but enjoy being music geeks.
Oasis appeals to people that actually listen and like good music.
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so what is a music geek? is it someone who likes Radiohead? weird. i like Radiohead, because, to me, they are the greatest band to ever exist. I guess that makes me a musics geek. sure?
Dave's statement pretty much sums up Oasis and Oasis' fans. You're a geek if you like Radiohead. You dont like good music, because you dont like Oasis. Sounds to me you've been listening to closely to coke-head noel. Because I have bad news for you dave. Oasis doesnt make good music.....holy crap!? were does that leave you? perhaps sucking on noels coke laced dumb-witted comments on nearly everyband in england.
I think oasis is pissed because they dont have any brains cells left to write any decent songs..they've wasted them on blow, booze and models. good luck attracting new fans Oasis. Please someone tell me how Oasis can attract some new fans. Its not by writing good music, because they stopped doing that a long time ago.
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I love Radiohead, but it is true that waving the flag is not enough - and barely works - for generating change.
Preaching Non Corporate thinking but charging $1M per show is kind of incoherent, along with using more voltage than a small African country in their live shows.
I give it to Noel for honesty.
And fuck Bob Geldof while we are at it
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waving a flag is good for a change. its better than wallowing in the shit! i think the negative ones are Noel, Oasis and his uneducated fans. also, saying Radiohead charge 1million a gig is absurd. when and were did this happen. they charge there fans. and we pay. whats wrong with that? they are the best band in the world. And for using more voltage than a small african village. radiohead began that change 5 years ago by using LED lights..the lowest voltage you can get. when you have 35000 poeple at a show you have to have some sorta video screen to project the awesomeness of radiohead...or you're not gonna see anything...too many people!!
so i really dont see any honesty from noel. just stupidity. like honestly do polar bears live in the antarctic? NO! its the north pole...not the south....stupidity ..not honesty....tell me were is his honesty....he's stupid!!!!!!!
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oasis? Why would anyone even dignify their meanderings? You guys started out pathetic, and continue to be. Does the White Album come next? Tell you what, I'll be a huge fan if you act like ultra rock stars and die early by choking on something.
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If anybody saw the South Park episode where the hippies stage a peace jam fest they would understand the Man's comments ("let's address the world's problems with this tasty groove"). Sure he's an ass but it doesn't mean what he says is not true. I love Radiohead AND Oasis. They're totally different bands and should never be compared directly because the comparison doesn't apply. It would be like comparing Grieg to Schoenberg (classical). One is drawing it's inspiration from great music from the past (I do this as well and have been criticized for it) while the other is pushing for something new. Streets
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i believe mr. gay ass gallagher is just jealous that radiohead has more fame then oasis,they're a poor excuse for a "rock" band.oooh let's make songs with the same catchy melodies so our boring fans can listen to over and over again.radiohead are tired of the typical rythm of music,that's why they chose a whole new direction in music,making more atmospheric,beautiful music.oh and i think it's funny that noel got attacked,i can't stop watching it.haha dumbass.
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everyone has their opinions and I do agree with Noel in the fact that I think its bogus to make things hard for your fans. Noel makes valid points of relevency and I love the fact that he has the balls to speak his mind as they are opinions and can be taken or left alone. Note: Radiohead did not have more fame than Oasis I'm sorry to say but both groups I truly enjoy no less.
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I agree 100% with Mr. Gallagher. Spare me the lectures, entertain me and enjoy your success. If you want to make a difference, get a real job.
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ahhhh...but you see how is radiohead lecturing us?? they're never preaching at there shows. i think noel should stop preaching. preaching people to be morons.
Hey oasis! How about you go home, do some blow, watch footballs worst hooligans, then go to the pub, get into a fight and have your teeth knocked out, then go on tour for a bit to make some money, wait for a fan to push you off the stage, and call it an year. sound good. ohhhh....wait...you've done that already. hmmmmm...maybe we shouldnt listen to an idiot like you. you seem extremely stupid. prehaps an idiot-savant. i'll make an eduacated guess and assume you're extremely stupid.
cause if you were smart you'd stop! stop with the music, its recycled. its boring.it doesnt rock anymore.
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this is a very funny thread ... reality is they don't like each other very much to begin with - never did - though oasis really took the world by storm in their day ... & yes, thom has been nasty to noel - shit one of their best acoustic covers (radiohead) is wonderwall - though it is sung in a bit of an ironic tone ... "waterwall" - get over it - it's great to see cat fights among prissy rock stars - that is what the fan pay for - which is, of course, noel's entire point - the new oasis album is actually quite good, fwiw -
http://www.imeem.com/pan8u/music/medeeBlZ/radiohead_waterwall_oasis_cover/
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I'm a fan of both bands, but being sincere, Radiohead is million years beyond Oasis
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Haha! Radiohead better than Oasis? There's a reason why Oasis consistently top 'best of' lists ahead of Radiohead. Radiohead fans are incredibly jealous of Oasis' success.
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