Clerks II Vs. Joel Siegel
Clerks II is out this weekend, and after reading how much Joel Siegel hates it, I think I wanna see it! Page Six reports on the press screening that sparked a war between the GMA critic and blogger/director Kevin Smith. Forty minutes into it he got up and shouted to his fellow journos, "Time to go! ... First movie I've walked out of in 30 fuckin' years!"
In the scene that sent Siegel to the exit, the characters graphically discuss hiring a woman to perform sexual favors on a donkey. Siegel told Page Six: "It was so foul and mean and repulsive. I finally realized I could not say anything positive ... I wasn't ready for this kind of smut ... I hope he doesn't make any more movies."Smith did what any director would do. He responded on MySpace. An excerpt:
I can't fault Mr. Siegel for feeling "revolted" (his producer's description of Joel's reaction) by our flick; in truth, there is a donkey show in it, and I recognize that brand of whimsy might not be for everybody. Film appreciation is very subjective, and maybe Joel just isn't into ass-to-mouth conversations.
However, I CAN fault him for the manner in which he left the screening.It's a long rant from Silent Bob. You can read the whole thing here.Apparently, rather than quietly exit, both Joel and his Cum-Catcher (my slang for the fancy kind of mustache he sports) made a big stink about walking out, calling as much attention to himself as possible, and being generally pretty disruptive.
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Now, I don't need Joel Siegel to suck my dick the way he apparently sucks M. Night's, gushing over his flick before he's even seen it; but shit, man - how about a little common fucking courtesy? ... You never... NEVER disrupt a movie, simply because you don't like it. ... Cardinal rule of movie-going: shut your fucking mouth while the movie's playing....
Joel went on The Opie & Anthony Show to sort-of-apologize, not realized he was talking to Kevin Smith. There's MP3 of that.
And, finally, there's a Clerks II music video contest. You know the drill: make a music video for All Too Much's "Think Fast" (MP3), upload it to YouTube, and the best one will appear on the Clerks II DVD. Rules here. (In the future all music videos will originate from YouTube.)
The new Clerks soundtrack doesn't look great, but I love this tune from the first movie:
Soul Asylum - "Can't Even Tell" (MP3 Link Expired)
(You can still enter to win our Soul Asylum catalog giveaway.)
Congrats Kevin on the publicity. And congrats Jason Mewes for not bursting into flames.
Posted at 12:34 PM in MP3, Where's The Beef?
Tags: Kevin Smith | Soul Asylum
Kevin Smith is to movies what mc hammer is to music. Or was I guess.
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What a stupid reason to see a movie.
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I was at the fateful screening and have to say that, while Siegel's exit was way too dramatic, I really wanted to leave with him. This may be the worst movie I have ever seen.
If you and your friends have ever sat around for an hour and a half, really really stoned, and made countless unfunny references to vaginas, you've written this movie. Kevin Smith, find a new job.
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it's about time donkey-fucking went mainstream.
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I think this is all much ado about nothing. When this is the biggest news coming out of Hollywood, then this is a slow news day.
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I'm not REALLY gonna see it. I liked the first Clerks though.
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A donkey scene for laughs does sound a little...desperate? These guys used to be smarter than Porky's 4.
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kinda hypocritical to say "fuckin'" wasn't it?
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Joel went on The Opie & Anthony Show to sort-of-apologize...
no comment.
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at what point did kevin smith jump the shark, imho it may have been after 'chasing amy' because any movie after that sucked beyond all recognition....
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at what point did kevin smith jumped the shark, imho it may have been after 'chasing amy' because any movie after that sucked beyond all recognition....
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Seeing a movie because it made Joel Siegel say "fucking" and walk out with less class than the movie he purported to be so offended by is an *awesome* reason to see a movie.
Also, Clerks 1 had corpse-sex, so this is nothing new.
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I agree - Joel Siegel's response is perhaps the only reason to see the latest release from a director who's work has steadily gotten more unfunny and irrelevant.
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Both Kevin Smith and Joel Siegel need to be tortured for crimes against humanity.
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at what point did Kevin Smith jump the shark?
Pre-production on Clerks.
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jay and silent bob strike back was so bad, I almost walked out on it. And let's give Joel credit for having a mustachio. that has to be factored into the equation.
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Aren't all of kevin smith's films a bunch of stoners making unfunny vagina references? I'm having trouble thinking of one that isn't, save for maybe jersey girl...
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After Dogma he jumped. Jay and Silent Bob was terrible. Though I'll see it anyway (not much else to see [I don't live in the city]) I fear Clerks II might be awful.
Still Joel Siegel is a douche.
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Kevin Smith is the worst filmmaker in Hollywood, and the saddest part is he is supposedly representing our generation with his half-assed shit.
BUT...A real critic, not an old bastard like Siegel, would have written a review explaining why Smith's bit about doing a donkey was unfunny as opposed to walking out, offended.
P.S. Scott, where is your article on "Some Girls"? They're new album is pretty damn good!
A real comic could have made that funny, and a real critic would have reviewed it.
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"at what point did Kevin Smith jump the shark?
Pre-production on Clerks."
"Kevin Smith is the worst filmmaker in Hollywood, and the saddest part is he is supposedly representing our generation with his half-assed shit."
God, I couldn't agree more. Smith's films = shit. And Dogma, wtf was that? Has to be his worst.
Also, Siegel is a clown.
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wow. i couldn't be more pleased to see that everyone agrees that kevin smith is awful.
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I've taken to referring to Kevin Smith as John Waters if he had no imagination or charisma. The only problem with that comparison is that John Waters has made some good movies.
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Look at how much crap this guy pedles for his movies:
http://www.jayandsilentbob.com/noname6.html
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Kevin Smith can't take criticism of any kind and is completely humorless about it. If you don't like a movie of his, he will go out of his way and over the top like some damn middle-schooler ranting about how much you suck, are a douche, and don't understand comedy. You would think eventually that if no one "gets" it, that maybe it's not "funny."
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I don't even get the cult appreciation for Clerks 1. It wasn't bad, but anything with Jay in it just goes downhill.
http://www.musictimes.com.au
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Mallrats was golden
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There are parts in the Opie & Anthony clip where Kevin Smith sounds like he's about to cry. "It's too late, man! the genie's out of the bottle, sir! You disrupted the screening!"
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kevin's post on myspace was actually pretty funny. Like he was before chasing amy.
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also, I think Joel Seigel may be a little too defensive about the donkey sex.
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i love kevin smith, and i think clerks 2 is one of his best movies. joel siegel's a douche, in every sense of the word.
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Clerks II is one of the funniest movies I have seen in a while. Both times I have seen no one walked out but the audience did applaud at the end. Shalit is an ass.
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I love Kevin Smith, all his movies are hilarious.
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you can suck my cock Joel Siegel! suck it! i want to kill you! where does this muther fucker live! ill kick his ass! ill fuckin kill him! he should eat shit! fucking whore i think he should fuck a donkey. im gonna flat out murder his ass.
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