Psychedelic Horseshit Hates On Wavves, No Age, TVOTR
Well, at least main Horseshittter Matt Whitehurst does. The following interview he did with the Washington Post is a few weeks old, but Brooklyn Vegan unearthed it today and we thought it was too amusing not to share, especially because, as mentioned, Wavves is such a polarizing figure. Whitehurst also goes on a one-man mission about the popularization of lo-fi (Robert Pollard just pointed at his 1992 calendar), but seems to forget that he took part in that MTV's dorky intro-to-lo-fi spot last year, along with No Age and sundry other acts who've since become more popular. Still, I do like Psychedelic Horseshit OK and it makes for good reading, especially because not enough bands harsh on each other in print these days.
Washington Post: Do you like coming down here and playing 13 shows in four days?Matt Whitehurst: Yes. I just like playing with different people. It's always the same crowds when we go on tour and [expletive]. They wanna come out and see Vivian Girls or Wavves or some [expletive]. And we get up there and freak 'em out. So down here it's kind of nice. People don't know what to expect.
Washington Post: Vivian Girls, Wavves - why is everyone in a lo-fi band now?
MW: I have no idea. I don't know. It became in vogue sometime in the last year due to a few figureheads talking a bunch of [expletive] on Terminal Boredom. And now it's exploded into this thing there where Wavves is getting $30,000 to [expletive] crank out this [expletive] generic [expletive].
Washington Post: There's a lot of one-person things now.
MW: Right it's one person with GarageBand and a few chords and like -- Wavves to me sounds like [expletive] TV on the Radio. That band sucks [expletive]. It's one of the worst bands to get popular in a long time. They [expletive] trump No Age because I think it's worse than No Age. No Age is just like, [expletive]. It's really [expletive].
Washington Post: But you're playing at least one show with Wavves down here.
MW: Three of them, yeah.
Washington Post: So how do you reconcile that?
MW: We made "Wavves Suxx" t-shirts with it spelled S-U-X-X. We got tons of people taking pictures with us in those. People are all into it. And actually Wavves came up to our drummer and our drummer had no idea it was Wavves. And Wavves took like six pictures with Rich with the "Wavves Suxx" t-shirt on. So, you know, that little [expletive]'s probably into it or something. And is probably like, Oh, it's like hip-hop, man!
Washington Post: People could know nothing about you but your band name and it would be pretty easy to figure out you're probably not going to be indie rock superstars.
MW: I guess not. We'd love to be but I guess we picked the wrong name for that. We should have named ourselves Wavves. We'd be rich now if we would've. We're better than Wavves, he does the same kind of [expletive].
They forgot about Fucked Up and a few other "Fuck" bands (and Seth is curious about Anal Cunt's career), but then they talk a bit about lo-fi before zeroing back in on Wavves.
Washington Post: Do you think it'll be fleeting, or will these bands maintain fans?MW: I don't know. Honestly I hope so because somehow if those [expletive][expletive]-[expletive] bands, by default, are like the leaders of the lo-fi movement now and we're somehow under that umbrella because we made a lo-fi album. So it's like, if those bands [expletive] don't do good, I'm going to hunt them down and kill them because that's the end of us. They're [expletive] representing a bunch of good bands. Somehow the [expletive] bands get to represent the good bands. But it's like that all through [expletive] history. Psychedelic Horse[expletive] - I think we're better than Wavves, for sure....
I don't care if people like Psychedelic Horse[expletive]. It's for me. It's for me to make music that I like. I don't give a [expletive] if anybody likes it. Those bands, they're all about like, Oh, we're girls! Or, Oh, we're skaters! Or, Oh, we're California bros! Yeah, but, can you write a good song? No. You [expletive] put a couple chords together - I don't know. I shouldn't be talking so much [expletive] in an interview about Psychedelic Horse[expletive]. But it's so prevalent now, everybody's getting a [expletive] about all these bands...
Washington Post: Anyway, so you think this will make it harder for the "good" bands to break through?
MW: Well now it's like if we make a record people are gonna be like, Oh, this Psychedelic Horse[expletive] record sounds like Wavves! Because it's lo-fi! No. No, it doesn't sound like Wavves. Wavves sounds like TV on the Radio, which [expletive] sounds like some really bad [expletive].
Washington Post: Yeah, I don't really get that band, they're not the worst.
MW: It's just like Wavves if he had some black dudes and a full band.
He sees Wavves everywhere. He should never go to the ocean. There's much more, including talk of Blank Dogs, Times New Viking and, yes, WAVVES, at The Washington Post. To be fair to Whitehurst, at one point the interviewer asks if lo-fi is the new grunge, so either we're dealing with instigation or an example of why nobody reads newspapers anymore.
[Photo via theivorytower.]
UPDATE: Let's at least hear Wavves' side, from a Village Voice interview published today...
VV: But your music has a lot in common with Dick Dale, and you've cited the Beach Boys as an influence. How big of an influence is surf rock?
WAVVES: Musically, ...the Beach Boys... I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. I'm really high right now.
Posted at 5:15 PM by brandon in Where's The Beef?
Tags: No Age | Psychedelic Horseshit | TV On The Radio | Wavves
Well, those were almost full sentences, but at least someone else is standing up against this no/lo-fi crap
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youre the reason hes pissed. his band is talented. a lot of the lo-fi stuff isnt. psychedelic actually has quite a few progressive ideas. wavves is completely redundant and disposable. i dont blame him for being pissed.
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How can someone distinguish which shitgaze band is shittier than the next? They are all unlistenable musicians with minimal talent so they have to hide behind distortion. Fuck the lot of em.
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Yeah, Wavves sucks. He's right.
...but he just forgets... so does he.
F***in' loser.
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"We made "Wavves Suxx" t-shirts with it spelled S-U-X-X. We got tons of people taking pictures with us in those. People are all into it. And actually Wavves came up to our drummer and our drummer had no idea it was Wavves. And Wavves took like six pictures with Rich with the "Wavves Suxx" t-shirt on. So, you know, that little [expletive]'s probably into it or something. And is probably like, Oh, it's like hip-hop, man!"
So let's see:
1. He's petty enough to make an [expletive] shirt dissing Wavves.
2. Wavves having good humor about the jab is evidently lame.
[expletive] you, Whitehurst...
Score = 65
This is both fairly old and truthful news. Obviously though it was posted with the intention of drawing wrath upon Matt Horseshit, who in all honesty makes better music than the lot of those "new lo-fi" bands.
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This guy is so cool. His rhetoric and eloquence alone warrants him to the purveyor of all things cool.
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Yeah, that interviewer is a fucking ignorant dick who clearly doesn't know shit. I laughed my ass off at Matt Whitehurst, though. He is clearly mad at the world.
TVOTR FTW.
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"[Expletive] [Expletive] [Expletive] like, totally [Expletive] man! [Expletive] Like, totally [Expletive]"= home boy needs to read a book and expand his vocabulary.
Score = 61
I agree. Especially since every single expletive deleted was a racial slur. Fucking racist jockeys.
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Books > lo-fi bands
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was this guy wasted? sounds like one of those drunk people who can barely stand up who starts talking about his philosophy of the world. no one in their right mind acts like that.
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Whitehurst's argument here is horse shit.
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but if he was buds w/ nate he'd pull some dumb logic out about why it was ok that wavves was doing it. silly.
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Can't believe you posted this, Stereogum. That was the stupidest and most immature interview I've ever read, I'm pretty sure.
And the guy from Wavves ACTUALLY just seems like a really good guy who isn't trying to make incendiary comments in order to get more people to google his band. Unlike, you know, other artists.
Will definitely never listen to Psychedelic Horseshit. Not fun when you KNOW the artist is a douchebag.
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Why does it seem that Pitchfork is trying to push this idea of such crap mediocre lo-fi music into this huge, awesome, tubuluar, bodacious thing. Cowabunga?
Score = 19
TVOTR is bloody awful as well.
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Sounds like Wavves with a shitter vocalist.
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Yeah dude, trashing other bands (one of which you've even played with before) in a manner befitting an angry, drunk (and possibly marginal) 14 year old for no good reason whatsoever (and no, "he makes more money than me, boohoo" doesn't qualify as a good reason) is definitely the way to make everybody see the light. I'm sure everyone who read this enlightening interview now realizes that you are a superior musician and human being, and not a total prick or braindead moron at all! In fact, they're all burning their (expletive-expletive-expletive) copies of Return To Cookie Mountain as I'm typing this! Congratulations on a job well done!
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Lol, I like how he kept saying "we're better than Wavves."
Who u tryin' to convince???
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Exactly! Say what you will about Wavves, but at least he isn't trashing other bands to get press.
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i agree with this guy except for the fact he dogged on tv on the radio. he musn't have heard dear science because that album is beautiful. i haven't heard his music though. so i can't speak on him.
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you and pretty much the rest of the world.
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it's actually pretty fun to read this and try to fill in the blanks with your own words. like madlibs!
Score = 45
1. Wallace Wells is right!
2. Matt Whitehust: Possibly a bit of a c*nt, it seems. His band is ok though. (Note: ok)
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wavves is easily one of the least deserving bands to ever receive any degree of attention. I've seen them live, and if you're not drunk, stoned, or an asshole, it's impossible to ignore the fact that they sound like your little brothers punk band
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Of course he [expletive] cares if people like his music. If it was just for him it'd be sitting on his computer and no one would ever hear it. Or he'd give it away on the off-chance that someone else liked it. Published art is a dialogue.
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duh. this is such a publicity stunt. horseshit is probably working with wavves' publicist (who is the same for vivian girls etc). and look! its working.
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Part of me wishes this dude huge success, but only because then he would be forced to hate himself.
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This guy makes it seem like Wavves is some huge band, getting all kinds of radio and tv play
None of these bands are "big" outside of the internet and indie scene
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dear matt whitehurst-
rodney anonymous called; he wants his vocal affectations back.
oh, ps: psychedelic horseshit is just plain awful.
Score = 11
I was going to get upset, but then I thought "Wait, who the fuck is Psychedelic Horseshit?"
Score = 62
I gotta say I agree with this article, everyone in indie rock is much too gentile and reserved, so it's pretty refreshing to hear Matt just take a huge dump on these bands that everyone loves. I've seen Psychedelic Horseshit live twice, and I gotta say this is pretty common talk for that guy. He just talks shit about other bands constantly, and quite frankly I think it's great fun. Bring back some antagonism in music! Pavement vs. Smashing Pumpkins! Psychedelic Horseshit vs. Everyone Else!
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1) When Psychedelic Horseshit write a song as good as either 'So Bored' or 'No Hope Kids' I will take Matt's comments seriously. Until then it just sounds like pointless jealousy.
2) In regards to the commenter who said that Wavves sounds like your little brother's punk band:
What the hell is wrong with that? Is music only good when it is made by wise old men who have devoted their lives to learning every chord possible in order to churn out soul-less technical wankery? No thanks.
3) If Matt wants to rise above all these [expletive] lo-fi [expletive] bands that have encroached on "his" genre and stolen his [expletive] thunder, he should do something DIFFERENT. He shouldn't keep churning out the same stuff while bitching about how he was here first, because nothing he ever does will ever change the fact that Robert Pollard is the ruler of the land in which he dwells.
4) "It's just Wavves if he had some black dudes...."
Right.
Because when I first heard Wavves, my racist mind immediately thought of TVOTR without all the terrible dark-skinned devils.
Was he implying that all bands with "black dudes" have a similar sound?
"Is that the new Bad Brains?"
"Nah, it's Sly and the Family Stone."
"Oh, I got confused because of all the ethnicity coming out of the speakers."
FAIL.
Score = 84
If Billy Corgan had come at another band like this he'd be getting crucified right now. But since it was just some nobody indie dude, other indie dudes on here are agreeing with what he said regardless of how immature and classless it was.
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TVOTR are lo-fi now? When did we decide this? If you're not into them that's your deal, but I'm not sure one of their faults is a lack of production.
It would be a lot livelier if indie rockers weren't so damn amiable in interviews, but call me when it isn't Psychedelic Horseshit. What a joke.
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That's what I was thinking. RTCM and Dear, Science were spectacularly produced. I don't really get the comparisons.
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Who gives a horseshit.
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ALERT ALERT!!! DICKHEAD PUBLICITY STUNT FROM THE UNTALENTED!!!!!
i agree with this guy on a couple things but....
WHY THE HELL SHOULD ANYBODY LISTEN TO HIM!? and he could have said it all without sounding like a complete idiot douche.
comparatively he makes vivian girls seem like sweethearts again.
this guy is such a tool. trashes on people for the music they make and then says "I don't care if people like Psychedelic Horseshit"
you, sir, are now in the lead for MUSICAL ASSHOLE OF THE YEAR
btw...TVOTR sounds NOTHING like Wavves
Score = 30
go anal cunt!
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theyr 3 seccond blasts (you can't really tag those as songs) make great text message alerts.
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psychedelic horseshit is obviously desperate for attention so they turn to blogs and ripping on others to make up for their lack of ideas
wavves is getting tons of attention for an undeveloped sound that has not proven anything but how to create hype to those who jump on bandwagons. their music belongs online til they make something beyond home experiments with tired themes
vivian girls and no age however have however earned their hype by simply making great music and unfortunately the posers trying to copy them are giving them a bad name
tv on the radio has nothing to do with this topic at all
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ok. good for these (expletive) guys. guess what. there's a thousand lo-fi bands better than you. and wavves. and by thousand i mean, multitudes. the one thing i really care about that this guy had to say is "it's for me". fuck you dude. then why are you talking to media and touring and badmouthing other shitty bands? what do you care? it's for you! shut up. go home. record your crap music. and listen to it on your aiwa headphones. that's seriously the worst excuse ever. this guy is obviously jealous. jealous. jealous. i'm recalling a time when i whistled along with my dishwasher. lo-fi. for me. i wish someone heard it. it was (expletive) grand.
really. and i mean this. anyone who says they make music for themselves, is a fucking liar. if you're going to make music for yourself. don't subject me to it. don't subject anyone to it. it's yours' asshole. love it. lick it a little. tickle it.
*disclaimer. i don't play, write, compose or anything that has to do with the production of music. i just love it.
and any prick that says it's "for me." i can't fucking stand.
stay home you wanna be fuckstick.
Score = 4
I saw Psychedelic Horseshit open for a band last week at a dive bar in Columbus. There were no more than 10 people standing watching their performance. They weren't good. I just assumed they were another shitty local band at the time and waited for the main act to go on.
Why in God's name is Stereogum talking about them?
Score = 11
Horseshit is a good name for them thats for sure. Wavves is awesome on album, live show definitely needs work. I secretly wish he'd get a female backup singer/guitarist to help out, that would be killer.
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Classifying TVOTR in the same catagory as Wavves and Vivian Girls is absurd. I'm a huge Wavves fan, but even mentioning the two together makes no sense.
Score = 10
TVOTR >waves but both are NOT that great. i always thought tvotr got more hype than deserved but whatever i thought wavves totally suck and that band nodzzz also, a *hitload more bands on the West Coast way better than those bands including eat skull, thee oh sees, tussle..the list could go on. let alone the rest of the u.s.
wavves and nodzzz only got some hype because they played some shows w/ no age and some booking companies got on their pole because booking companies are for the most part are caught up in this blogsphere hype and can't take the time right now to decipher the b.s.
the major and most of the minor booking companies right now are almost as bad as the major record labels and for the sake of a better term are riding the indie blogsphere wave instead of really searching out great new music to put on their companies and create tours.
saw psych..shit once and enjoyed the show, it was a house show w/ times new viking this last summer in el paso texas
belle and sebastian, aislers set, blatz > tvotr
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No Age song > Psychedelic Horseshit career.
seriously, fuck Psychedelic Horseshit in the face.
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FTW!!!
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Any band who tries to make a solid foundation of popularity based on their negative comments towards other bands is a band full of slick and slimy cunts.
Score = 12
I love how you all attack Psychedelic Horseshit like you know their brand of music--you don't because you're too busy listening to Death Cab and Sufjan and spewing your snobbery on music that isn't in your plane.
That said, this is a terrible interview and a bad ploy at garnering a little heat. PH is much better than that.
I recall 'Gum highlighting Real Estate very briefly and people were drooling over 'em. You do know that they, along with their group (Ducktails, Julian Lynch, Sun Araw, Predator Vision) are lo-fi as well? I also recall people flipped over bands like Nirvana who were more than happy to distort the hell out of a lot of songs. You either dig it or you don't but it doesn't give you the right to declare it shit and think you're correct. Wash your opinion, because it smells.
Score = -25
I know Psychedelic Horseshit's "brand" of music and it sounds like failure mixed in with some keyboards.
scientific fact = Sufjan > Death Cab > [expletive] > reality television > Nazi Germany > Psychedelic Horseshit, just so you know.
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inb4 most commented post
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Christ, this is the same shit you write on these comments and say to your friends all the fucking time, only because it was an interview he gets a higher profile. I pretty much agree with most of what he's saying, too. Just watch...You all will be listening to PH when their batch of new releases comes out, I swear to that shit.
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fuck i used to really like psychedelic horseshit, but if it's between them and vivian girls, no age and wavves...not even a close race. fuck you matt whatever.
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all of you posting should stop posting and instead start a lofi band. It takes less effort than typing this sentence.
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Harsh is a verb?
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That's my photo. Can you take it off, or give me credit, or something. THANKS.
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Where is Dave Malitz's name here? or the Post Rock name? Come on Stereogum...
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Making a lo-fi recording is really cool, when it's your only option. Like back in the day, for Pollard to put out as many songs and records as he wanted to put out, he HAD to do it lo-fi, because he didn't have the time or money to do it any other way. Or when My Morning Jacket's Jim James, got a few hundred bucks to buy a four track from Darla records to record their first, The Tennessee Fire. This was before everyone had computers, and access to good analog gear for cheap, like we do now.
When some suburban kids, who shop at Urban Outfitters, and have enough money to buy a pro tools rig, or rent out an good analog studio, with really good gear, end up making "lo fi" records just for the coolness factor.....
Well, it just comes off of an affectation and phoney
Score = 19
fuck, the wavves kid taking photos of the shirts while this fuck is throwing a tantrum makes wavves seem like the chillest bro
Score = 19
lets just agree with them all sucking. (except TVOTR) besides if your high both bands almost sound decent... almost.
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From reading that interview it sounds like he thinks his band created the whole lo-fi thing, remember Sebadoh you asshole?
Score = 9
Matt Whitehurst deserves to get his ass kicked - plain and simple. He sucks and so does his shity band. Horseshit does pretty much describe his band though. I was not at all convinced about TVOTR until seeing them this past year in Brooklyn at The Masonic Temple. They blew me and my friends away by the 2nd song. And we are very picky and go see tons of music of all kinds. They will have a long career unlike Matt Whitehurst and his crappy band. "You all will be listening to PH when their batch of new releases comes out, I swear to that shit." I really don't think so!
Score = 4
okay so the whole 'oh gosh it's so simple i could have done it' argument went out with postmodernism. you didn't do it and that is why you are here now commenting on this blog instead of out playing shows.
anyway, if any of you have seen Wavves live you would understand only a monster could hate them, and specifically Nathan Williams. he's fucking adorable. he dresses like a middle school skater, he has the face of a 14 year old AND he's tiny. totally 'put-in-pocket' adorable. also he makes fun music.
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or rather 'went out with modernism'
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I went out with modernism a couple of times, but I just couldn't stand the way she tried to force shitty bands on me through obscure justifications.
TRACTOR RAPE CHAIN NOW THERE'S A SONG
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what is obscure and what am i forcing on you?
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Damn. Y'all gotta relax. It's music and that's it. You like whatever you like.
You all can try to say that some band is somehow better objectively than another band, but the truth is that music is subjective (duh). So whether wavves is better than vivian girls or no age is better than tvotr or whatever is moot, it just fucking depends on the person.
Now, as to the interview, I don't think anybody takes this guy seriously (including himself). Nevertheless, the interview was pretty funny and entertaining to read. It's just a publicity stunt, but can you blame him? People have done a lot worse to gain publicity . . .
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Gold SoundzWhite Light WhiteHeat on the BEachTaco bell...good graphicsSwell maps...just dandy. I DO think indie music is good enough to HELP! indie film.,,let's have Waaves the motion picture immediately! Lets put People out of business.Let's define TriBecca!
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Wait, why are the Vivian Girls getting grouped in with these bands? I don't think they sound anything like No Age or Wavves, they are completely different. What??
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I downloaded "Magic Flowers Droned" two years ago and was absolutely blown away by how monumentally terrible this band is. Now I also know that the lead singer's a complete asshole in addition to being untalented. Awesome!
I'm going to go back to listening to TVOTR now, thanks.
Score = 1
These guys suck. Never even heard of them...though I will say, this is a way to get your name out there, ripping on bands way better than yours....not necessarily the way I would have chosen...
Score = 0
I don't know what Wavves or Psych. Horeseshit sound like, but I know what an asshole sounds like, and this Horseshit dude is a major asshole...
Score = 5
TVotR > Psychedelic Bullshit.
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So last week, Stereogum.
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Just a head's up ladies and gentlemen, we're T minus 6 months from the MASSIVE LOFI BACKLASH OF 2K9 so time to start brainstorming the new 18 month music trend. Howzabout low-key psych-folk? (Woods/Fleet Foxes/Real Estate)
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Psychedelic Horse[expletive].
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i remember when there wasn't so much anger in the indie rock world, everyone sort of helped each other out. now that's not the case.
which is totally okay because the thing that pisses me off the most is all the tall people at shows now. where'd all you giants come from? there was never anyone over 5'9 at a pavement show.
ever.
Score = 11
What about Thurston Moore?
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he always hung backstage anyway
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that matt dude is just pissed cause he has an obscenely large forhead.
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Thank god someone someone with something to lose called bullshit on Wavves and all that associated crap. Just because it sounds like a shittier, shittier 8th generation copy in both fidelity and songwriting does not make it good. Vivian Girls? TERRIBLE. Come on.
Score = -3
Neither one of these bands should ever be allowed to think that they matter.
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The truth is, however unfortunate it is that wavves are a huge breakout act in lo-fi music, their popularity will undoubtedly lead his fans to explore other [better] artists like blank dogs, or, if you will, psychedelic horseshit.
So it looks like you've got yourself a catch-22, guy from psychedelic horseshit.
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Um, just wondering... who are Psychedelic Horseshit? And why do they have to sh*t all over everyone else's music? Lo-fi is a style that can be considered horrible or unique and great, those two extremes, depending on who you ask, but either way it is still other bands' style and he shouldn't mock them and look down on them for that. What an angry man. I want to start a lo-fi band...
http://bonafidewithheadphones.blogspot.com/
Score = -1
I just treated that interview like a curse word Mad Libs.
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Saw them at Hampshire College last week, they hated on Ariel Pink and Dr. Dre too! ("Turn up my treble, I sound like some fucking Ariel Pink shit, some Dr. Dre beats or some shit like that.")
Score = 5
Come on
its just to easy to hate forgetable boring bands like TVOTR
search for a better bands for hate
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My music is way more lo-fi than any of these jerks..
Sersiouly, my music SUCKS.. I haven't enve finished most of my tunes.
Ready for big time ... I'll be right back with my PAYPAL info so don't go anywhere.
Score = 8
I think this article was a joke.
He said he wanted to sound like Radiohead.
Who would ever wanna sound like those A-Holes?
Farmer Ted
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These guys have obviously succeeded in their goal: to get their name out there. I never heard of them, and I'm willing to bet that many people never heard of them, until they made these comments. Considering how popular it has been recently for an artist to make disparaging remarks about other artists (see: Miley Cyrus v. Radiohead, Flaming Lips v. Arcade Fire), I'm not surprised that Psychedelic Horseshit would use this strategy. Just look at their name: they're screaming for attention. Now people are going to get curious and check them out on Youtube and other outlets, giving them the attention they want.
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Let's just keep the beef on wax...we don't want another tupac and biggie here.
Score = 7
Every band mentioned in this interview is terrible...especially Radiohead.
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I most definitely agree. Wavves suck too. Psychedelic Horseshit sounds like a port-a-potty's B-side. And no, I'm not talking about some hip, new lo-fi band. I'm talking about an actual port-a-potty.
I like how he keeps saying "put a couple of chords together" like it's a bad thing. One of the few horseshit songs I've heard consisted of 3 chords. What the what the huh the what?!
Score = -2
this dude is awesome and should keep shit-talking everybody
let's listen to Harlem Shakes, bros
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I always considered lo-fi bands to be like The Microphones or Elephant 6 bands. Not necessarily all these suf punk bands with distorted sounds.
Also, whats up with this dude saying TVOTR is lo-fi being that their production is some of the slickest shit out there.
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It's really sickening to me that people still need MTV to tell them what to listen to. At least in the 90s, there was an excuse to like terrible music - you didn't have access to underground music stores, you weren't aware of fanzine culture, etc. Now everyone has access to all the free musical knowledge in the world, yet some people still look to MTV for musical guidance? There's no excuse for that except laziness and a lack of passion for music.
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Agreed, only I would substitute Pitchfork for MTV.
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Yeah... good point. I was just responding to the mention of the MTV feature on "low-fi" mentioned in the article, but Pitchfork is a far bigger offender than MTV at this point. I've met countless people whose music taste exactly mirrors the stuff hyped by Pitchfork. People think of Pitchfork as an "underground" music site, but at this point they wield just as much power as Rolling Stone or Spin in their prime. Indie rock is the new mainstream.
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i agree that indie rock is the new mainstream. but as far as hating on people who look to pitchfork for new music, i call bullshit. it's not like anybody "finds" new music on their own like they're panning for gold or something. whether it's mtv, pitchfork, stereogum, or whatever, it's ultimately gonna get to you via some form of media.
i'm not saying people should just blindly decide to "like" whatever pitchfork deems cool; you gotta listen to the shit and make your own opinions on it. but i happen to actually like a good chunk of the music that's well-received by pitchfork. and most other stereogum readers probably do, too, because the two sites pretty much cover the same bands.
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I like Wavves. I also enjoy Psychedelic Horseshit. Matt Whitehurst seems to be a gigantic asshole. A lot of the people commenting on this story also seem to be gigantic assholes. Am I missing anything?
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I completely agree.
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ur a giant asshole
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i know what its like to not be able to find people to play with, so Im going to have to do it all myself....its a noble thing to do. If you want to make music u make it, u cant wait for band members to mesh or to be able to afford expensive recording stuff. now if your making lo-fi music as a fashion statement thats one thing, but all these bands seem genuine to me. its easy to spot the fakes among a movement (coldplay, editors) ,as for the 3 chords thing.....most of the greatest songs ever are 3 chords.
to me the appeal of vivian girls, wavves, and no age....is behind the production the songs are melodic, catchy, and so simple you could do it yourself, but u havent and u dont....because theres an x factor to why its them and not you. its this x-factor that brings the jealousy.
wavves had his drummer injured during sxsw and he still played his show,and did a good job...i wasnt expecting some revelation...he is just starting. he was very apologetic....picking on him is ridiculous.
yea he sounds like a douche....but he's just being honest, maybe not the best thing to do in print, but he agrreed to the interview, he was asked, and he answered. but yea...it gets me in to trouble too...you got to articulate why u dont like something, rather than just say fuck that. had he done that and ended with...so fuck that...then the interview is just fine.
in the end, and this is to all of you, picking on the little guy is always in bad taste and every band mentioned in this thread is the little guy, even tvotr. there are real battles to be fought.... like Miley Cyrus......
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this guy is fucking hilarious. i haven't heard his band, but i think i already like them.
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Well, first off, agreeing to perform with a band and then making t-shirts bashing them (Which he obviously thinks was the Cleverest Thing In The World because he spelled sucks with two xxs, when its less clever and more something a jealous 12 year old would do) is one of the most pointlessly elitist, conceited things you could do. Not only is it basically a cheap bully tactic, but basically requires him to think of his own talent as something along the lines of more talented John Lennon. Which he is far from.
Secondly, pulling the "I make music for me, I don't care about anyone else" (otherwise known as the Billy Corgan tactic) is not only insulting to anyone that actually likes his band (It's basically saying, "I don't give a shit about the fans, I just show up as a favor to them because I'm too good to keep my music to myself"), but it looks really pathetic in an interview smothered in bitterness over people liking other bands over his.
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Yeah, I'm so bored. Really. I'M BORED WITH THIS BAND.
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Amazing. I think he is bitter because Wavves sucks.
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That's not even Matt Whitehurst in the picture above. That's PH's drummer. And don't even get me started on that John Lennon comment and how it makes about as much sense as a subplot from "The Room". And I'm sure all of you who are here going all Tora! Tora! Tora! for Wavves would be happy to know that that dude probably knows nothing about this due to the constant cloud of pot smoke he wanders from city to city in.
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Well said ThRobert. I want a Wavves Rulezz t-shirt.
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For one, Matt was on acid during this interview, and that was Rob from Eat Skull that he ran into. For another, Matt is much nicer in person than that Wavves kid, as 'adorable' as all the dumb high school girls think he is. Third, the Vivian Girls are a bunch of deceptively bubbly cunts who are as enamored with their own success as Wavves, and both of those acts, if anyone was actually paying enough attention, are simply cashing in on this soon-to-die 'lo-fi' resurgence. I'll take an honest asshole over some shithead snakecharmer any day.
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ten bucks says fah q ^ is actually Matt Horseshit talking in third person.
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This guy needs to chill. Psychedelic horseshit, no age, vivian girls, wavves, blank dogs, times new viking, whatever other band you could call lo-fi are just making music that they like. this guy says he doesn't give an (expletive) about what others think about him, but he sure as hell does a good job shoving his views down the throats of everyone. I'm a fan of all of those bands, and yes, some have more musical talent than others, but who cares? as long as the record's good and they can put on a good show then does it really matter?
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Here's hoping this turns into some Butthole Surfers shit-flinging stalking debacle.
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He's right. And the dude is atrocious live.
Wavves represents all that is annoying and problematic with the current web-driven indie rock hype machine.
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What an articulate f------ c--t...and a deaf f------ c--- as well. Wavves=TV On The Radio? In what universe?
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wavves fuckin rule. psychedelic horseshit is one of the worst bands making music. dissenters can fuck right off
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FUCK MILEY CYRUS!
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so right jeff. you gotta be a retard to think wavves sounds like TVOTR
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so right jeff. you gotta be a retard to think wavves sounds like TVOTR. that's like comparing britney spears to pink floyd.
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This person is clearly retarded. "Dear Science" is about as far from lo-fi as an album can get. But hey, he used a lot of expletives, so I guess TVOTR must be lo-fi. His logic is flawless.
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No Age is a pretty good band coming from that scene. As far as Wavves, Vivian Girls, Ducktailss A lot of this comes from the Woodsist label who have a lot of influence in the mainstream underground market.
No one ever goes out on a limb to say something negative about these bands. Especially not bands for fear they won't get underground shows from over controlling promoters/curators who are bitter.
The underground scene (Especially in BK) is snooty and closed-minded and mostly controlled by a lot of people with complexes of all sorts. They act as a filter when we're not supposed to have filters and blacklist a lot of good legit hard working bands coming up. They decide if it's cool enough to be DIY/low-fi/underground and have tons of connections to blogs/media like this one.
I dunno I get why people like Wavves, vivian girls, and ducktailss, but please stop forcing shit down our throats and coating it with sugar just because you're underground.
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man, you sound ridiculous. I loathe all those lofi bullshit bands, but there's no conspiracy involving the lofi scene (whatever joke of a scene it is). Using the term underground mainstream is an oxy moron.
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I absolutely abhor people like this.
I hope his kidneys get swine flu and explode
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To all the bands that are now the new "lo fi", you're 15 minutes is counting down. enjoy it while it lasts. I'll expect you bagging my groceries soon.
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I won't lie, I googled Psychedelic Horseshit after this and [expletive] sucks. Musically, Psychedelic Horseshit is more similar to the Wavves than saaaaaaay the Wavves and TVoR.
As far as lo-fi talk, who gives a [expletive]? I'm crazy like that but I usually listen to a song and either like it or don't. But maybe I should disregard whole fields of music because it's not refined enough or [expletive].
[expletive]
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Hold on i still don't get this. I know this guy is a jealous dick, but
TVOTR = Wavves somehow?
Is he talking about real early TV shit i never heard or is everyone else dumbfounded like i am?
Wavves and No Age is obvious. but Dear Science? really?
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i think its funny this band would hate on tvotr and no age
that's a mix of the mummies, the fall and pussy galore (on drugs, of course)
my link:marknad
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This guy is just pissed hes not the one on top of the indie charts. I love his music. I love Wavves more. There's doing your own thing, and there's being a prick; and that's what hes doing.
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wavve's suxx
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