"Why You Can't Ignore Kanye"
Hip-hop gets the cover of Time. "More GQ than gangsta, Kanye West is challenging the way rap thinks about race and class."
Yeah, he's preppier than the other rappers, but if Kanye is really so innovative, why the tired Mayfield sample?
Kanye West - "Touch The Sky (Feat. Lupe Fiasco)" (MP3 Link Expired)
I'll give him this, though: Late Registration's gotta be the first album to feature cameos by Adam Levine, Paul Wall, Jon Brion, and Michel Gondry. Yes, the French director. He plays drums.
Related: Lushlife mashes Mr. West with Pet Sounds and lets you download the whole album in MP3 format.
Posted at 2:00 PM
Tags: Adam Levine | Kanye West
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At a pre-Grammy luncheon this year Kanye said he wanted to be paid every time his photo ran in a magazine. So now I am going to have to assume that TIME paid him a million bucks for that cover. Kanye may be "a gentleman," just not a very smart one.
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That quote is actually referenced in the article. Kanye's a great producer, but it's amusing how using sped-up soul samples (about, what, every single time?) can make you the savior of rap. Yeah, how novel.
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I enjoy some of his tracks, but I'm completely sick of this guy. His attitude probably has something to do with it, he seems to be infatuated with telling people how awesome his life is now that he's rich and famous. Most rapper talk about how much money they've got, and all that jazz, but he seems to take it to the next level. I saw about 30 seconds of an interview with him on MTV the other day and he made the statement, "Sometimes I wonder if I'm already in the afterlife, it's so good for me."
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Plus, he can't rap, and his lyrics are surprisingly weak for a guy who is supposedly "enlightened".
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you think the mayfield sample is tired? how about jamie foxx mimicking ray charles again on the hook of kayne's exhausted new song "goldigger". listen here, if you can bear it: http://www.badmintonstamps.com/zarchive0508.html#38
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Gotta love any mainstream (and Christian) rapper who preaches against homophobia. I agree on the "Move on Up" sample, though--a little lazy, indeed.
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just cause he's metrosexual doesnt mean he's newsworthy, its his gimic. like a pro wrestler. Hip hop is a parody of itself. he raps about jesus walks but you cant sing any of his other songs in church... so dont be talking about jesus homeboy. you breed drugs, sex, lies, videotape on all the rest of your tracks so we dont buy you being "saved" you breed more stereotypes then you bend. he was hot when he's hungry, now that he's rich, he's wack...
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Snarky ass crackers. Don't you have some washed up celebrity to rip on or snide comments to make about an album made my middle class crackers that you all buy but hate on? You know why there are hardly any brothers at your indie rock shows? Cause brothers aren't such boring ass pussies. Also, brothers like booty not that resembling a 12 year old nerd shit dressed in thrift store bullshit you're all pimping. Man I'm surprised Urkel isn't a goddamn indie rock pinup. Bitches. I got sent here cause someone said hey go get the new Kanye track. You all disgust me, goddamn middle class yuppie boring ass crackers. Let's hate on the successful socially conscious but honest black artist but oooh, cool, he used a French white dude as a drummer! I don't care if you talked to moveon.org on the phone or read some Ralph Ellison in college, y'all is still ignorant white folk.
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"yo Dre stick to producing".....never more has this phrase been more prevalent then with Kanye …..WEAK rhymes, but great producer – so why all the praise. I guess it’s for the people who don’t care about the lyrics, but “just like a good beat” Overrated!
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ignorant white folk.....thats so 90's, hey so was urkel.....skills is skills - Kanye doesn't got 'em - do yourself a favor Kassim and go buy a blackalicious album - your head might explode
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ignorant white folk.....thats so 90's, hey so was urkel.....skills is skills - Kanye doesn't got 'em - do yourself a favor Kassim and go buy a blackalicious album - your head might explode
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what a ridiculous thread.
john - sped-up soul samples are noticeably absent from the new album
justin - of all the self-promoting things kanye has said (say, for example, claiming he was robbed at the AMAs), the thing that's gonna get your goat is 'my life is so good right now, it feels like heaven' ?
"you can't sing any of his other songs in church" - that one should win some kind of prize. but you're absolutely right. someone take kanye's christianity away. he swears and shit!
and as far as lyrics/flow go... i'll take him over most top 40 hip-hop any day of the week.
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The best part about Kassim's post above is the sentence that only reads: "Bitches." I can really taste the pregnant pause before *AND* after that sentence. Nice. (See, I can do it too). And by the way, Kassim, I like booty (have you been to Suicide Girls? There are so many fat indie girls there...brothers like fats girls too, right?). Also: don't forget that we used to listen to Arrested Development in addition to the move-on.org and Ellison in college. So, we aren't totally ignorant.
"Free South Africa, you dumb son-of-a-bitch."
-Danny Glover / Sgt. Murtaugh in Lethal Weapon
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Shows what you know, Kassim, I'm an UPPER-middle class cracker.
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Negatives aside (like the fact that 'Jesus Walks' is way too much like Nas) I can't help but like Kanye.
Yeah he talks big, but I feel like it's in a nicer, be-my-friend kind of way.
But I'm just a cracka', what does I kno'?
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go back to picking cotton kassim, is that ignorant enough for you?
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Kanye's new record isn't too bad. What I have a problem with is the fact that he raps some insightful ideas, then the songs end up talking about himself and his image. It's pretty bizarre. But it's a pretty good record.
Oh but I didn't mean to interrupt the silly anonymous personal attacks... those always help a conversation.
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Kanye may be arrogant, but he's talented. Can't deny that. Great producer and good lyricist. Yeah, maybe he's not Blackalicious or Dead Prez, but here's a socially conscious rapper who's actually on Top 40 radio; is that so bad? I'm willing to bet that if he hadn't blown up, most people commenting on this site would hail him as "the next great MC." The album is actually pretty good, give it a listen and a chance.
And howard sterns nose, you're a fucking asshole prick! Take your elitist racist attitude and shove it.
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Everyone just got TOLD by Kassim.
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gum posts it, everyone loves or hates it, personal attacks with rebuttals, its still just a record. thanks for the news, gum.
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you guys know he didn't write jesus walks, right? it's a cover version. he bought the song with the beat, and it includes most of the original's lyrics. "i don't make music, i make medicine". you make faker bullshit, kayne.
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I can't deny it...I love me some Kanye...mmmm.
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yea I cant help but like kayne to a degree too... which shows you how much one can be brainwashed by the interconnected industry of radio, labels, mtv and the like. and kayne is pretty good and one of the better things hip hop has to offer. WHICH IS WHY I DONT GET WHY PEOPLE DONT HEAR THE EMERGENCY CALL THAT HIP HOP'S ELITIE LIKE KAYNE WEST ARE SIRENS FOR: hip hop is wack. untalented, undereducated mouthpieces for america and the world. theives, drug users, disrespectful morons are "hot"... nah. what hip hop right now is really doing is parodizing those who create it and those who consume it's real and beleive in it. hip hop is dead.
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yea thats true, jesus walks was bought from "rhymefest" from indianapolis indiana... he won a grammy for it. I went to see him at mid west music confrence and he didnt show up to play... I left after waiting 2 hours and he had a wack DJ poser. they only way kayne is challenging the way the US tries to look at culture and class and race and whatnot is by being metrosexual. if TIME equates this with challenging class or race I must be loss. dude makes lots of money, buys expensive shit, is still lyrically irresponsbile, kinda weak, getting lazy and got lucky in life, with skills that dont mean jack... and now he's the role model for millions. wack.
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Michel Gondry? Kanye should have gotten Jean-Luc Godard and Chris Marker to play drums, that's how real gangstas roll.
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Geez you guys are grumpy. I like the new album, it's a solid, well written, excellently produced pop album - and a very musical one at that. Having Jon Brion join the mix really seems to have paid off, definetely some unusual insturmentation - it's pretty out there in terms of the actual music when placed along all the other top 40 hip hop stuff. Not that it means anything but Rolling Stone gave it 5 stars and I saw it got 4 out of 4 stars in the LA Times today.
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I'm kinda in the middle on ol' Kanye, where on the one hand, College Dropout was a classic LP, and I admire what he is doing. But while he is hailed as having such an innovative, positive approach to hip hop, the guy comes off as being so Goddamn arrogant, he may as well be rapping about luxury goods and strippers. This Time article compares him to Run DMC back in the day, how they were middle class African Americans doing songs addressing the importance of education, not pretending to be from the streets, and it says that Kanye is in the same boat. I understand how he can do songs like "Gold Digger" and "the new workout plan" with a hint of irony, taking on a money loving, misogynisic character for the sake of illustrating a point, but then you read things about his outburts at award shows, and that million dollars for his picture in a magazine comment, and you start to wonder how much of this "Polo clad educated rapper from the suburbs" image is bullshit. I mean, I love Jay Z for his cockiness, but he never pretends or hints that he is any other way. With Kanye, I think it may be a case of saying one thing and doing another.
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"I felt like the Bad Boy street team
I couldn't work the LOX"
THAT SHIT IS FUNNY!
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I'm not a buisness man, I'm a buisness, man
Let me handle my buisness, damn!
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yea, jay z is the real shit. Kayne is a flamboyent, cocky punk. Its funny about how much rappers talk about sex, how many... as opposed to how many do... how many do you think DONT have STDs?
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We got it, Kanye, you don't like rap...
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if you wanna hear some real rap, go listen to House Of Pain - Jump Around. Y'all betta recognize! Bitches. (I can do it too.)
"I'm the cream of the crop, I rise to the top
I never eat a pig cause a pig is a cop
Or better yet a terminator
Like Arnold Schwarzenegger"
check out these lyrics. they are fat. it's like the great american novel!
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Wow...lets all use ebonic's in our comments
kanye west - Late Registration-2005-RETAIL Z
http://files.filefront.com/k05_exe/;4052834;;/fileinfo.html
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No... the thing is I love hip hop. I really do. but its stale and sad because of what it has become. I've worked in it, on the inside and ran from that ish as soon as I could. you had real innovation for a while, now its stagnent. something big has to happen. and besides, the sort of influence the people have who are artists, labels, radio, film, videogames etc. should cause people to wrech and throw up. reckless, undereducated, heathens are our role models! yuck.
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I wonder if kayne will slowly turn as bitchass as the neptunes. remember them? they used to make hot tracks. then their balloon got too inflated and bust, they turned into garbage. ¡Viva! Industry Hype! ¡Viva Record Industry and its fraternal club of GARBAGE!
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he's arrogant, he's fake. whatever. who cares? he is an entertainer and entertainers peddle bullshit. it's their job. now if you like his rapping, cool. if not, don't listen.
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Cindy Sheehan's PR agent is so gonna get fired.
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the track with the mayfield sample was produced by just blaze not kanye.
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I don't like kanye all that much and I don't like the attitude of this board in general. I visit here often enough for long enough to know for a fact that the majority of you know nothing about hip hop. Hey, man. I don't know all that much either. But I don't understand the double standard. How can people who write 2,000 word essays on why their knowledge and experience and erudition give them more right to their opinion about a particular band or movement (I've listened to DCFC since the womb, anyone?) then turn around and offer opinions on areas where they're clearly ignorant?
Kanye, I don't believe you know what you're talking about. Even I know that no one that is currently listening to hip hop uses the word "wack" like that. It's not 1996, honey.
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Janine - "I know that no one that is currently listening to hip hop uses the word "wack" like that. It's not 1996, honey." .... EXACTLY.
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I do like Kanye and the album's pretty decent, but still.. same shit, different day. Kanye admits as much in the article, where he says that he didn't want to "innovate too much." Basically, if ain't broken, don't fix it.
As to fewer sped up soul samples, well...
01."Wake Up Mr. West" contains excerpts from "Someone That I Used To Love" as performed by Natalie Cole. (Produced by Kanye West)
02. "Heard 'Em Say" contains excerpts from "Someone That I Used To Love" as performed by Natalie Cole. (Produced by Kanye West)
03. "Touch The Sky" contains samples from the Curtis Mayfield recording "Move On Up" (Produced by Just Blaze)
04. "Gold Digger" contains samples from the Ray Charles recording of "I Got a Woman" (Produced by Kanye West)
05. "Skit #1"
06. "Drive Slow" contains a sample from a Hank Crawford recording. (Produced by Kanye West)
07. "My Way Home" contains a sample from "Home Is Where The Hatred Is" performed by Gil Scott-Heron. (Produced by Kanye West)
08. "Crack Music" contains a sample of "Since You Came In My Life" as performed by New York Community Choir. (Produced by Kanye West)
09. "Roses" contains a sample of "Rosie" as performed by Bill Withers. (Produced by Kanye West)
10. "Bring Me Down" (Produced by Kanye West)
11. "Addiction" contains elements of "My Funny Valentine" performed by Etta James. (Produced by Kanye West)
12. "Skit #2"
13. "Diamonds From Sierra Leone (Remix)" contains a sample from "Diamonds Are Forever" performed by Shirley Bassey. (Produced by Kanye West)
14. "We Major" contains a sample of the recording "Action" as performed by Orange Crush. (Produced by Kanye West)
15. "Skit #3"
16. "Hey Mama" contains samples from the Donal Leace recording "Today Won't Come Again" (Produced by Kanye West)
17. "Celebration" contains a sample of "Heavenly Dream" performed by the KayGee's. (Produced by Kanye West)
18. "Skit #4"
19. "Gone" contains samples from the Otis Redding "It's Too Late" (Produced by Kanye West)
20. "Diamonds From Sierra Leone" contains a sample of "Diamonds Are Forever" performed by Shirley Bassey. (Produced by Kanye West) (Bonus Track)
21. "Late" (Hidden Track) (Produced by Kanye West)
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The fact that Kanye is King simply illustrates just how mediocre the field of rap/hip-hop has become. OK, so he's better than Fergie "I-Piss-My-Pants-On-Stage" and her dreadfully defangled BlackEyedPees compadres. Bue Kanye is just about 17 light years away from freakin' Ghetto Boys, Sugarhill Gang, early Snoop/Dre shiznit and early stuff from my homeboyws NWA...Homeboy needs to get more than a Euro drummer to reach the level of smooth cool & passion those brothers mentioned above were flying at.
And Kassim cracks me up, he sounds like he's about two thoughts away from mandating an affirmative action program in the musicmaking biz...one in which only half-assedly decent, defangled acts could prevail. Phew...
Where is Youngblood Priest when you need him?
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Janine - "I know that no one that is currently listening to hip hop uses the word "wack" like that. It's not 1996, honey." .... EXACTLY.
2 POINTS FOR REVERSAL!
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Did "Eurocracker" really just put the SugarHill Gang in the same category as the Geto Boyz and NWA? The SugarHill Gang were about as "real" as Debbie Harry on "Rapture." Gimme a break.
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does anyone know where i can download the new broken social scene cd?
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get me your E-mail DanO..... and what about the snizzle on your dizzle?
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Janine, I totally know more about hip-hop than you.
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Kanye makes catchy, danceable music that has (relatively) smart lyrics. I, for one, approve. Stop over-analyzing music people.
By the way, Kassim speaks the truth.
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I love it when people post stupid comments like "I don't like kanye all that much and I don't like the attitude of this board in general" yet *voluntarily* continue going to the site... or maybe someone's propping open their eyelids and forcing them to watch Clockwork Orange style! :)
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Is no one going to comment on Lushlife's weak mashup of Kanye songs with one of the greatest albums of all time, 'Pet Sounds'?
Lushlife basically takes a string sample from a Beach Boys song, drops kanye's vocals on it, and makes his own beats. You can't even tell it's Beach Boys most of the time.
The songs rise and fall on Kanye's lyrics, the beats are pedestrian, and then no Beach Boys. The most heinous offender is "Breathe in Breathe Out" that has no Beach Boys except for one vocal line thrown in.
The "wouldn't it be nice" mash with "Kanye's Workout Plan" is one exception. Brilliant use of the music of the Beach Boys, fitting the singing in the song perfectly. Another exception is Diamonds mashed with "That's Not Me" - Simply for it's use of the "I once had a dream so I packed up and split for the city".
This is airtight mashing, but it shows very little taste, and seems like more of a gimmick to gain attention, rather than a real work of art. It doesn't hold a candle to "The Grey Album."
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Welly Well Well...if so...boys and gals, break out your suspenders and codpieces. It's time for the surprise visit, and maybe a little in and out.
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I gotta laugh at the dumbasses on here repeatedly referencing "kayne" west (even posting as "kayne"). Yeah you definitely know your hip hop...
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chu chu - well at least Im not a train. did fergie piss her pants on stage?
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"Kassim speaks the truth"
Actually, Kassim doled out every hateful 'indie rocker' stereotype he could think of and called us all racist for liking that certain genre of music. Classy!
That aside, Kanye West is totally overrated, and I used to not mind him as well, but all his attention getting bullshit has got to stop. OOh! he's talking about Jesus! SCANDALOUS! OH god, now he's telling all his 'fellow rappas' to dig the gays!! He's a true AMERICAN HERO!!
I'm sorry, but people have been campaigning against the unjust hate of social minorities for years. Kanye is nothing new, and his rap itself is uninspired. Funny though, whenever anyone says this, someone in turn comments 'His production is amazing'. I take solace in the idea that one day his ego will grow to be so enormous, that perhaps his head will explode. And for the record, I don't give a shit that his jaw was wired shut and he had the courage to come back!! or whatever. People do this all the time. He's not special. He's very average, he's very run of the mill.
Scott, really now, screw Kanye "I'm the Best Rapper to Ever Rap Raps" West, post some new Broken Social Scene mp3's.
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15-min... I've been coming here forever and I will continue to. I'm just pointing out hypocrisy when I see it. (BTW, I vistied your blog to find out who you think you are. No one's definitely being forced to go there, eh? Maybe one of your posts will get 10 comments one day... maybe)
I also visit some hip hop boards, as I grew up on old school hip hop but dropped it in the 8th grade. (I've completely dated myself as ancient. Raise your hands if you remember the premier of the Push It video on BET.) I've been trying to find out what quality music I've missed. Across the board, the good web sites treat other genres with respect.
Anyways, I'm referring in general to the sort of indie universalism and club-housery I see, where unless you own like every EP of every side project put out by all the members of frickin Dinosaur Jr., you have no right to talk. But at the same time, you're any kind of judge of hip hop based on your love of M.I.A, Fannypack, and one Outkast album?
You still didn't address my question: Can you justify this double standard to me, rather than adopting a "Love it or Leave It" attitude more appropriate to Ken Chesney than a so-called hipster with an appropriately ignored blog.
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But does KANYE have GAME?
The Game - Untold Story, Vol. 2 [2005]
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=223F0QHD
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The new 'Ye album is quite possibly the best hip hop album of the year (thus far, still looking forward to the Little Brother and Blackalicious releases). The last time there was such a leap in quality between a first and second release was with Outkast's Southernplaya... and ATLiens. Tired Mayfield sample? I think not. Take a close listen to Late Registration and you'll find something that is better than just about any other album this year, especially out of the some of the shit that you guys dickride on.
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The new 'Ye album is quite possibly the best hip hop album of the year (thus far, still looking forward to the Little Brother and Blackalicious releases). The last time there was such a leap in quality between a first and second release was with Outkast's Southernplaya... and ATLiens. Tired Mayfield sample? I think not. Take a close listen to Late Registration and you'll find something that is better than just about any other album this year.
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I don't know, Kevin, "dickride"? That sounds vaguely homophobic. Would 'Ye approve?
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the beach boys/kanye mash is TERRIBLE.
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wow. A black guy that actually wears clothes that fit for once. I hate those xxxxxl white tshirts. I like how he rails against the african diamond mines but wears alot of bling himself.
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Holy. Chill out, Janine. Your first post was based entirely on a stereotype. You seem to harbor some resentment towards 'indie kids'...let it go, man. Let it go!
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How is dickride homophobic?
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"I also visit some hip hop boards, as I grew up on old school hip hop but dropped it in the 8th grade. (I've completely dated myself as ancient. Raise your hands if you remember the premier of the Push It video on BET.) I've been trying to find out what quality music I've missed. Across the board, the good web sites treat other genres with respect.
Anyways, I'm referring in general to the sort of indie universalism and club-housery I see, where unless you own like every EP of every side project put out by all the members of frickin Dinosaur Jr., you have no right to talk. But at the same time, you're any kind of judge of hip hop based on your love of M.I.A, Fannypack, and one Outkast album?"
A-fucking-men, Janine!
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ummm actually you homosexuals and metros, this new album kanyeezy upped his lyrical game and his production style is more complicated this time around. Gone are the constant sped up samples and simple song structure. This album is worth all the rave reviews. Kanye is improving at what he does and in this day and age, thats special because most artists get worse with each album they drop. So start showing some love and respect to this guy who is putting out good hiphop music that can everyone can listen to. Appreciate it!
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kanye west's music is missing something: authenticity
everything he does seems forced and unnatural
that's why M.I.A. said nothankyou to a guest appearance, because the real deal can smell the fetid stench of inauthentic shit from miles away
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Kanye is inauthentic? Forced and unnatural?? He couldn't be more full of himself (in every possible interpretation of the phrase). Would an inauthentic artist rerecord his first single before it starts to really blow up after learning that his subject matter is less than glamorous? And then make those conflicting feelings the subject of the new song? M.I.A. is good, and we'll see where her career goes; she still has a lot to prove. Kanye is well established and proven. Late Registration is a solid step forward.
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yes that's exactly what an inauthentic artist would do: suddenly try to correct for the fact that he is missing a certain chip...what's that chip...oh yeah...the authenticity chip
as for "a solid step forward"
are you even aware of the fact that modernism is over???
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the kanye / beach boys mash up IS THE WORST. DON'T BOTHER WITH IT
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"OOh! he's talking about Jesus! SCANDALOUS! OH god, now he's telling all his 'fellow rappas' to dig the gays!! He's a true AMERICAN HERO!!
I'm sorry, but people have been campaigning against the unjust hate of social minorities for years. Kanye is nothing new, and his rap itself is uninspired."
Holy shit. It's hard to fathom, but this might be the single stupidest statement on the entire Internet. Social activism is played out, huh? Try to grasp this ... innovation is not the last word in musical excellence. Music can be about heritage and communication, not just new trix. We have your vaunted newness to thank for electroclash, remember. As long as people like you are saying things like "fellow rappas" and "the gays," it's clear that "campaigning against the unjust hate of social minorities" has plenty of life left in it.
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Ultimately KW makes disposable music. It has all the soul of a Black Eyed Peas commercial, er that is, music video. The "college dropout" schtick is already old and tired. And, did anyone see him on Punk'd? ...not very Christian KW. His pink cardigan wrapped around his neck almost came undone. Jeepers!
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...and Pitchfork's 9.5 is absolutely ridoculous. Apparently, you can close the books b/c it isn't likely that there will ever be such a near flawless record made ever again. Hang up yuur mics dun!
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I'd rather listen to Late Registration than stab my ears out listening to a complete ridiculous band named "clap your hands say yeyah!!!"
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Booty Basster, have you actually listened to the College Dropout? I think somebody's making uninformed opinions!!!
Just because he sang "Jesus Walks" doesn't mean he's Billy Graham for fuck's sake. He's arrogant, but he's human, and that's what makes his album so great. I know it'll be hard to top your favorite Kid 'N Play records, but you really should give it a chance.
Call me "ridoculous," but I can't wait to pick up Late Registration tomorrow.
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u guys all hate but u take take time to recognize him and write a bunch of shit. he isn't as big as he is because he sucks
so relax with the i hate kanye west's
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i really dont understand what everyone's crying about. half the reason kanye is so good is because he is hilarious, the irony of his lyrics isnt him being 'wack' its him being funny. i dont think someone like kanye would get so support by the likes of mos def, talib kweli and common if he wasnt lyrically talented. personally he is by far one of the most talented rappers on the stage at the moment. so what he talks about how much money hes got? half the time its a joke anyway, and the clueless of you suggesting that the irony of hip-hop will be its downfall are the most ignorant. the irony of hip-hop is what ads to its deliciousness, you see people on TV with millions, bitching about how hard they had it. hip hop is the way of the future, the middle ground between angry dance/trance music and indie rock, its music you can dance to but can also sit at home and lounge around to and kanye epitomises that through both his lyrics and beats.
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Yeah!!! Let's here it for the bitter, miserable, elitist, emotionally numb assholes on this board. You father fuckers wouldn't know a good time if it sat on your face. I admit that Kanye isn't the greatest ever, but he pisses you people off which is just great to me. Lighten up and try making something yourselves, instead of shitting on other people's work. "Mr. West's music is often shallow and arrogant." Whoopty fucking doo! So is the AC/DC catalog. Stop analyzing the world and let yourselves be part of it OR keep stewing in your criticisms and trying to convince yourself you're cool. I'm too arrogant to honestly give a shit:)
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Kanye West has got talent, and there's no deneying that. What he has learnt to do, is come from another point of view from the hustling type such as Jay-Z. Jay-Z and Damon Dash said, when they met Kanye, they knew straight away, he hadn't hustled once in his life. He is though talented, and there's not deneying that. His first LP the college dropout was great. Yes, the skits are a bit annoying, but Eminem has them too. No doubt, if Kanye Came into the ROC from the start, it would be a hundred times stronger then when it was at its hay-day. LONG LIFE ROCAFELLA
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i'm confused, you say long 'life' rocafella, but your name is rewind. thats a nas song. which brings me to my next point, isn't it a bit wrong for kanye to do a track with nas on his new album(even though it is possibly the worst track) when it was jay-z who signed him?
please explain
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Even though Jay-Z signed Kanye, that shouldn't mean that he shouldn't do work with other artists. Jay said at the metting where Kanye played his new album, that during production of Late Registration that one of his favorite songs was that one with Nas. Nas is a great artist, no doubt about it, and rewind is a great song. Do you not agree that one of the problems with hip-hop these days is that fact so many great artists are not working together because of the beef that other artists on the same record label have with them.
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kanye is better than a lot that is out there, but he ain't no genius and ther are many flaws in both albums both lyrically and in terms o beats, i mean come on 'forever ever' repeated 500 times is more than paying homage to outkast, this is what we like to call 'skanking the fuck out of some one elses lyrics'. and M.I.A has more talent in one of the opening skits in her album then kanye has in his entire album, she is the fucking queen, and he knew that thats why he want her to guest on his album, and to be frank its obious that collaboration would do nothing fo her in terms of music evoltion or progression, perhaps in terms of publicuty it would have been beneficial.
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I think Kayne West is an absolute idiot. I cannot believe that he used the Red Cross Concert/Fundraiser as a personal forum to air is personal views. I will never support anything that he ever has to say or sing again. How dare he accuse our president of not caring about the people of New Orleans. Even if you do not support the president's political views it is still tasteless to ignore what he came there to do. He only seemed to be trying to create more panic and outrage than actually help victims of this horrible disaster. Shame on you Kayne! It is sad that you think that people will look up to you for you airing your dirty laundry.In the wake of this disaster, I am shocked and appalled by his behavior.
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Amen to that brotha!
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Kayne West - *shrugs shoulders* What can I say? He proved last night with his comments that he is one of the most ignorant "celebraties" out there. "Sending troops to kill people." What about the people popping off rounds that forces relief workers to worry about their own safety instead of getting those stranded folk out of there? "I went shooping, and I'm checking with my Manager to see how much I can afford to give." what were you shopping for, another suit?If you're so passionate about helping the folks, you'd pull out your checkbook and write a check and give whtat your heart feels instead of "checking with my Manager". Better yet, auction some of your bling, and donate that to the Red Cross, or even go hire some folks to go help these people out. Like some of the news networks who keeps stirring up more trouble than help, he is just plain ignorant. Go back to whatever hole you came out of,and stay there. I pity you fool!
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Kayne West is obviously a racist, who doesn't watch the same hurricane coverage that the rest of the country sees. Of course it is obviously the media's fault that every looter is black - they should be more diligent about searching around to find some white looters!
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Kayne West is an arrogant opportunist. Using the hurricane relief fundraiser to drawl attention and publicity to himself proves it. What a loser!
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Remarks made by Mr. West during the NBC Katrina fundraiser showcased that Mr. West is a terribly immature, uninformed, selfish man. If Mr. West was so concerned about the people suffering, why was he out shopping instead of sending his shopping money to a relief fund. To believe and then announce during a fund raiser that President Bush does not care for black people was just asinine. To suggest that relief efforts were delayed in order to kill black people is ludicrous. Mr. West owes apologies to all American citizens, President Bush, NBC, and all the other entertainers (especially Mike Myers that had to stand next to Mr. West during his rant) involved in the fund raiser in which he so inappropriately spouted out the hate in his heart.
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Kayne West has lost me as a fan. I can't believe he was ranting and raving about how long it took for President Bush to send relieve funds, Well Kayne It's a little more complicated than pulling out a $100 bill out of your pocket to donate, We are talking about 11 billion tax payers dollars, and Kayne why has it took you so long to donate money? Oh your manager hasn't approved it (one person). President Bush had to get congress to approve the funds(hundreds of people). The little fame Kayne West has recently recieved has went straight to his head and I hope he loses all of his fans, I dont every want to see him on Tv again, He is a waste of airtime and money!
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I agreed about the Kayne West comments. I think everyone should stopping buying his music and let see what Kayne has to say. Media is to blame for alot of what goes on in society today. These celebrities think they can say whatever they want because they have the power to do it.
Instead of blaming Bush, Kanye should dig out of his pocket or better yet volunteer for the Red Cross and go in to rescue those poor people himself. It was a shame becuase it was a good concert until he spoke. We should help the victims of this tragic event because they need our help and leave the color issue out.
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Kayne West is a MORON
I hope he is hit by a druck driver and never recovers
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Way to go Kayne, never heard of him before, but agree with every word he said. Anyone that supports this murderer George W. Bush has blood on their hands.
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I was searching on the web and stumbled across this site. For the better part of an hour I laughed myself silly at the comments on this site. I wasn't going to comment because I really could care less about Kanye West I listen to music for enjoyment not to be a critic and if the man is annoying he's not sleeping with me so who cares.
But when the subject came up about the New Orleans victims I became heated. Listen if you don't like the remark Kanye made about Bush then you're eyes are closed to reality. Have you ever gone without food or seen your kids suffer or a relative. I have. I live a few miles outside of our nations capital and you know what it's pitiful. Blacks do not erect liquor stores on every corner or deny funding to the school systems. I'm not saying that as a race we don't share in the responsibility but have you ever heard of assisted suicide. Those people in New Orleans were poor and forgotten bottom line. They could have evacuated them they didn't for days. My husband just left the service it takes 24 hours to mobilize I know they did it during September 11. This country still is not equal so no matter how ignorant Kanye may have sounded he spoke the truth. Money is the only color in this country that gets any respect if you don't have it well you just don't have it. Right?
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i think its pretty obvious to anyone that watched what he said on NBC that kanye west isnt as arrogant as people like to say. it took alot of courage to come out and say that and even if you think he is wrong you have to admit that is true. personally i don't live in america but all i see on TV is exactly what kanye said. i think a shroud of political correctness has clouded tha judgement of people and in the ensuing chaos of new orleans the true nature of the situation is obvious. its clear to anyone with their eyes open that racism and violence is existent and that something must be done about it and i think the fact that no one seems to care is perhaps the most astonishing. i believe kanye west is right, and if you look beyond the carefully worded statements of politicians it is obvious to see the predjudice, racism and corruption that exists. "george bush doesnt care about black people" or anyone else who doesnt have money or power
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My family lives in Mississippi and they are fighting mad at everyones comments including Kanye's about Bush being racist, which is a bunch of bull crap. The south is devastated and they could not move to help Louisianna for they were trying to survive themselves. Everyone is saying they didn't, they didn't. Who is they? They are you and me. We didn't do anything but sit in front of our TV's and say look nobody is helping those people, where are they? THEY IS US!!! My family is trying to survive, yes in better conditions than New Orleans but they still don't have means for food and electricity and they live in the middle of the state. The people that could of helped Louisianna first were destitute themselves. If YOU didn't go down to help those people then you need to shut up, for you are THEY!!!! Especially you, Kanye
Praise God, Bush and the military and the Red Cross and the Salvation Army and all the wonderful people that knew they were THEY!!!!
I didn't go, did YOU! Please send money to the organizations if you can't go. God Bless.
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WOW....I was following this chatboard yesterday when Stereogum originally posted it. There were hundreds of good threads debating both sides of Kanye's comments....which had to do with...uhmm...oh yeah, NEW ORLEANS! Now I wake up and see that more than half the posts on this board are regarding Kanye's music, and how good/bad he is as a rapper.
Give me a break people, this is EXACTLY what Kanye wanted. Kanye only made those comments to have his name smeared all over the media. He was on the front page of Yahoo all day yesterday, and his asinine, uneducated comments were shown on every news channel on TV. Any press is good press, right? Its really ironic that this all blew up right before his album dropped...how coincidental. Kanye west doesn't care about the black people of New Orleans either....he's a publicity whore, and only cares about himself and his record sales.
Do me a favor people...quit playing into what this idiot wants, and get back to the real topic at hand: complete devistation in Loisiana/Miss. Instead of wasting your $13.00 on Kanye's new album, send it to the American Red Cross. Make a difference.
You can bet that Kanye West will be sleeping on his 1000 thread count sheets a month from now...while the tens of thousands of people of the South will still have NOTHING.
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They is the government. Bush was not devastated he was on vacation when that hurricane hit and I did vlounteer my time so get it straight. I don't blame the local govenrment but if you believe that racism does not stil exist why are they still voting about my civil rights in Congress every few years. If you don't believe that read the paper. I volunteered my time and my money and I'm not going to argue but I am black and this notion that Bush is a saint burns me up. Walk in my shoes before you put this man on a pedestal or anyone else making policy.
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Mark I agree with you totally and you're correct but I just wonder if maybe someone else had made the comment on TV would we debate the source or the issue.
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Mark, excellent comment. Angie, I for one don't put Bush or any politican on a pedistal because the majority of them only are interested in power and not the best interests of this country. And the ones who are trying to get airtime and pose for a photo op should be voted out of office. If they are all so concerned about the situation, why dont they drive their pampered rear ends down to the devastation and lend a hand? They can still do business via teleconference. But they too busy trying to get money from the various lobbyests that infest the capital like a plague.
This situation has raised a lot of questions, but these need to be answered AFTER all of the folks who are having to suffer through this nightmare are taken care of. I was at ground zero for three of the four hurricanes that hit Florida last year, and I know what its like to be living with no lights, no air conditioning, and being tolds help is on its way, and hang in there. Our folks down here pooled what we could together and helped each other out. Luckily, we didn't have to endure the horrid conditions like the folks in New Orleans did, but it was still bad. Even after we made it to a shelter with power after finally abandoning our home, it took me a while to get used to having hot food, lights, and running water after going without it for eight days, and not having to play a shell game with my small group of batteries I bought before the storms to keep my flashlights working. And worrying about the safety of my family everyday until we got help. No sooner than we were relocated than we had to endure two more storms. Luckily, we made it through and now we are still picking up the pieces of our lives.
So some of us do know what's it like.
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I found this site as a result of "googleing"
Kayne West Fan Club---see I am trying to find a an address to where I can send both of this opportunists CD's in order that he may shove them straight up his ass--for a young man who is with such background and afforded such a great upbringing by his parents (per TIME article)his is one ignorant self absorbed dare say lost soul. Join me will you and send your CD's and or other Kayne items back just so he can know he was in fact heard.
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In my opinion Mr. West has no idea what a racist is. Making statements without the facts is dangerous especially about someone he does not know. Mr. West should use his talent to help promote peace and respect and refrain from making racist comments about the President of the United States.
Mr. West is an American Citizen not a Black radical. I wonder how he would do in Iraq?
Mr. West use your money and celebrity status to help those that need it and leave the politics alone.
Stay away from the arena of lions or you may soon find out who is the predator and the prey!
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I'm not American. I'm not black and I'm not exceptionally poor...However, Anyone in this forum who thinks West is wrong is a fool. I dont know what goverment controlled meda bullshit you are being fed but on the outside we are shocked at Dubya's laid back attitude. I'd never heard of West before 15 mins ago. West may well be racist, he may well be an oppertunatist but sadly he is right. I would suggest many of you go and check new's coverage site's from outside the states..say www.bbc.co.uk (yes I am British). On day 5 (prior to any action or statement from Bush) our own reporters where pretty much saying what West said. Bush and his administration has failed you. We've seen some shocking footage over here, such as cop's holding a gun to a young woman's head..Yes she was looting..Food for her baby..You call that justice??????
Bush was partying with his business "accociate's" up to 48 hours AFTER the damn had broke..If our country leaders did that we would string them up..
If you fall back on the race card your as ignorant as you are stupid..What the hell as the colour of your skin got to do with the right to survive? There allways has been and allways will be those that will take advantage of a situation.
Personally..I dont think it's as much a race issue as a money issue..I hate to say this but imagine the same thing had happened in New york? Do you think bush would have waited? No..there's money to be made in New York...Is there money to be made in New Orleans?? Where most of the population live below the poverty line??
think about it..Think about where you live and what would have happened if it was your house and everything you own washed away?
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i am so sick of hearing all these racist comments. yes, i admit, i was -- and still am --disturbed by the length of time it took for new orleans to get help. none of us knows why. and we may never know. we can only speculate. but, i am disgusted that this is being used as a "platform" for more of it's-the-white-man-keeping-the-black-man-down propaganda. for kanye west (and apparently the many who agree with him) to accuse bush of "not caring for black people" is pathetic. that's called being judgmental. if bush hated black people so much, he wouldn't have condoleezza rice and colin powell working for him. i find it interesting that these same blacks respected clinton who, by the way, NEVER hired any blacks. hmmm... and, i wonder, if this new orleans disaster had happened on clinton's watch i guarantee that you wouldn't be hearing kanye and all the others accusing him of "not caring for black people." no way. liberals and racist blacks have hated bush from the get go... and this is just a perfect opportunity to express their deep seated hatred for him and for anyone else who disagrees with their views. i think it's pathetic and sad that at a time like this --when so many are suffering -- that so many people are expressing such hatred. i guess it takes something like this to reveal what's really going on in the hearts and minds of many. i'm ashamed to be an american.
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I believe it totally stupid that West made the comments he did. It took so long to get relief there because plans that NORTHCOM had to help were dependent upon there being some semblance of infrastructure left in the city of New Orleans. 40,000 troops have to be fed and given water or they become useless to those they are trying to help. That couldn't happen immediately because noone imagined or foresaw what actually did happen to New Orleans. If any of you had spent one day in the military and knew anything about the effort it takes to deploy then you would understand. It's not a money issue or a race issue. And it's not about New Orleans having so many people living in poverty. Every metro area in the country has that. It's about there being absolutely no infrastructure left that the plan relied upon. The plan has since changed and flexed to accommodate the current conditions prevalent in New Orleans and help has arrived. You can't just change plans immediately when they involve the number of personnel and equipment needed in New Orleans. If any of you had any managerial experience you would understand that. The military makes its living by adapting and overcoming obstacles and that's what they have done. Those of you complaining that have served, I respect your comments. For those of you that haven't, don't criticize what you don't understand. And for all of you with any sense reading comments in this forum just remember never to argue with idiots. They'll only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
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Oh yeah. I forgot to say that Kanye West is an ignorant man. Just plain ignorant. I can't stand entertainers that think that just because they are entertainers they now understand politics. If it weren't for their status, no one would listen to them, period. How much has Kanye donated to help hurricane victims? Has he been to New Orleans and seen the devastation? Has he broken a sweat helping to save someone's life? Has he hung from a rope underneath a helicopter and pulled someone to safety? Rather than criticize he should thank those in the military for being the rough and ready men that he could not even fathom being and for protecting his right to speak his mind, regardless of how ignorant and shallow his comments are.
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Kanye West is the next best rapper next to 2pac. His lyrics inspired people not like the other rappers like 50 cent. All they rap about is how they got more money and bitchez than you. You know wut i'm tire of this hate i just wish apocolypse comes and destroys all the ignorant people in this world because that is the only way we ever be truly free. For the reason the we are enslave by thoughts of ignorant people in this country that have a higher social status then normal peolple like me. They bleed and breath like i do but there consider better then me. Kanye West is no different then me if you were in his position you probably be on television talking about how great you are to. Who are you to judge Kanye West you are just flesh and meat with limited knowledge not the all knowing God.
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i agree with kanye's comments just not where he said it. he could have said it at his own time.
hopefully it doesnt stop the donations from coming in.
and i definitely agree it is more a money issue than a race issue.
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u guys need to relax
go listen to late registration its a good cd
and go donate your time and money and if you dont agree with him than dont listen to him.
HELP OUT ANY WAY YOU CAN.
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i was neutral on kanye west before the comments he made at the NBC function, some songs were okay but i wasnt really big on him. Now, ive lost all respect for this dude. are you kidding me? "George Bush doesnt care about black people"??? regardless of political views, that wasnt the time nor place for that. its comments like that which keep racism alive. theres people (black and white and purple) dying down there who need help. wheres kanye with his wallet out, he certainly has the income for it. matter of fact, kanye you should sell those expensive ass clothes you wear and give the proceeds to the victims, you pseudoactivist bastard
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MS, LA, AL, were the states that voted predominantly for Bush. u get what u pay for. i agree, money issue more than race however, CNN hasn't shown white looters; gotta love that coverage of the impoverished black looter. solidify the myth of the "predatory black species". *AND* how the hell with everything going do these bastards have "time" to violate displaced female victims?? unreal! funny, Canada sending drugs to the US, the same US which talks about banning Americans from purchasing cheaper drugs from Canadian-based internet pharmacies now US needs Canadian help. Alberta increasing its oil exportation to US cause of the hurricane?? holy shit! after softwood lumber and mad cow and the North Dakota/red river diversion plan Canada really knows how to take a beating from our neighbors to the south and still give a smiling hand! how about Canada adds the cost of aid to the amount US owes for softwood lumber tariffs? oh Canada...feel free to have the likes of Bill O'Reilly and that tramp Anne Coulter take shots at you but jump to the aid of the derelict US government.
oh yeah, the Kanye album. its good, i'll probably get it. doesn't take away from the fact that this man is horrifically egotistical and not one of those "approachable" celebrities. he is far from the "coming" of hiphop. check Little Brother if you want great tunes, lyrics, & production that are fully slept on.
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CNN is the MOST liberal/left news broadcast of them all. if they saw whites looting, they would have jumped on it, trust me. can't you accept the fact that blacks were looting?
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kanye west, Is A Rasist Mother Fucka. He a Nigga Boyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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kanye west, Nigga no he's a Nigger, a Big ugly fat stupid nigger I never heard of him until the racist renarks he made about white people & G.W., Who is he? He he a popular Nigger?
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kanye west, Nigga no he's a Nigger, a Big ugly fat stupid nigger I never heard of him until the racist renarks he made about white people & G.W., Who is he? Is he a popular Nigger?
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kanye west, Nigga no he's a Nigger, a Big ugly fat stupid nigger I never heard of him until the racist renarks he made about white people & G.W., Who am he? am he a popular Nigger?
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Mike Myers should have walked off, It would have shown he has some class but, I guess he's just another pinhead.
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I am very Liberal and know more than most of you. Having said that Kanye West has every right to make the comments he made the other night, and if anyone white speaks about him, they are Racist, being a lesbian and liberal, I know these things, it's a gift I have. And if anyone of color speaks out about him, they are just confused and should be forgiven. Trust me, being a Liberal, I know about such things. Even though I'm a Lesbian, and knowing Kanye West I would sleep with him if he asked me, I'd be obligated to oblige, and I wouldn't want to offend him. I'm Liberal; it’s my duty to please the minority person, no matter what sex they are, Trust me, I Know. Being Liberal and all.
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Libby, was that a joke or are you a "challenged" individual? Sure, he has a right to say what he wants, but free speech should be *responsible* speech (e.g., you cannot yell "fire!" in a theater and expect not to be slapped down for it).
In the future, please try to use basic sentence structure and punctuation, which would have made your post much easier to follow.
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Why did the balck man stay in the south after the civil war? Was he asking for it?
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Why did the balck man stay in the south after the civil war?
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I have lost all respect for Kanye West. This hurricane is NOT about race. It is about people who are SUFFERING, NOT because of our government, but because of a NATURAL DISASTER. I'm educated enough to know that you can NOT blame something of this magnitude on one person. President Bush has always fought for this country, he rushed to our aid on September 11th right? Were there not African Americans affected by that? So why would he treat this situation any differently? There is no way we could have truly prepared ourselves for the horrors of hurricane Katrina. No matter how much money we have or supplies available, there were bound to be mistakes or miscalculations. Even if there wasnt, people would still suffer. Why? Because we are human, and so are politicans. So Kanye, next time you want to make a jackass racist comment like that on national television, at least back it up with facts. REAL facts. For example, President Bush has been trying to fix those levies in New Orleans forever, and before him, the situation was brought up to the Clinton and Carter administrations. SO there, see? Don't put the weight of our entire countries previous mistakes on one man. Pulling the race card is overrated. By doing so, you are only perpetuating racism against WHITE and BLACKS alike. Your comment hit a nerve alright, a racist one....congratulations on adding to a cultural divide that has impaired our country forever. You used RACISM to explain a natural disaster. STOP THINKING ABOUT YOU, YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR "RACE", START THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE AS A WHOLE, THE SICK, THE DYING, THE LOST. THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO TO HELP ALL PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE ONES YOU THINK HAVE BEEN IGNORED. You are no better than anyone else, white or black.
GOD BLESS THE VICTIMS OF HURRICANE KATRINA
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Lauren. the cultural divide will forever widen. no, i'm not a pessimist, i'm a realist. just look at some of the comments on this board.
gina.
i'm not denying the fact that a majority of looters shown were black. MSNBC had a nice "feel good" story about all these good Samaritans helping a couple whose vehicle ran out of gas and had a flat tire and the kids in the car were hungry blah blah blah in some parking lot in MS. they happened to be white as were all the "Samaritans". funny how much positive attention you can get when a camera is on you and that camera is broadcasting to the world. i don't immerse myself in all the New Orleans stories so i haven't had the time to see the white looters. do they show them on Fox News or something?
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The people who stayed and did not evacuate were the people who did not have enough money to do so. Mr West needs to realize it's not black people, its poor people. He knows nothing about that. The crisis that Katrina has left behind leaves everyone wanting someone to blame. We need to focus on helping. I live in LA, 30 minutes north of New Orleans. My house ended up okay, I wish everyone elses did too. (I did not vote for Bush, I do not blame him for Katrina, only for Iraq.)
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Gina, I know the cultural divide will forever widen. My point, simply, was to state that the common notion among many blacks is that white people are the only racists. It just strikes me as odd that SOME black people feel they are "defending" themselves against racism by making racist comments (i.e. kanye west). I am completely disgusted with how people have been treating this tragedy. I read your post, u made good points.
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my previous comment was meant for DH.
but gina, you do make good points!
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BTW Kat. . ."why did the black man stay in the South" hmmm...is it that much better in the North? or Midwest? or West Coast? i'm just inquiring. i know i know, u make your bed therefore that is how you lie, but...elaborate for me.
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I am a native of a Dominica W.I and I could like to commend MR. West on his stand against the lack of urgency by the U.S govt to the huricane victims. It is good to know that he is not just an entertainer but a natural born leader. It is about time our black people in power start opening there mouths on issues that concernds us all.Once againg thanks Kanye
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Now Listen, I know what I'm talking about, Because I very liberal and Vary smart, Kanye West, Is a great man, he’s black and strong and not afraid of telling the truth, Trust me when I say that he is a great African-American, He is wonderful. He's Brilliant and wise and hit the nail on the head, when he spoke the other night. His truth gives me Goosebumps. He Should be listened to, mostly by white America, I know because I’m very liberal, and my professors told me so, They say I’m incredibly Brilliant for a blond woman. I wash I was Black so I can feel the hatred the African-American community has to face on a daily basis, Black is beautiful. I have found in my life experience that the only evil in the world is what I’m made of, white skinned, I even hate to consider the white race as human, It scares me that I’m white. I know what I’m talking about, I’m Brilliant to many. And liberal to all, God I wish I was Black.
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oh god, guys, stop ranting on kanye west!
his new album is very enjoyable, and i even liked those skits!!
and i just can't agree more with gone's view on kanye.
his lyrics are quite brilliant!
also, his work with other artists like alicia keys and elses was pretty great.
why can't you guys just accept his talent?
huh?
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Poetrygurl, if You Think that nigger is talented, than you must be white and blond. I bet you'd love to be fouled by that thing wouldn't you.
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Now Listen Slicky, You're a trouble maker. I know I'm very liberal and can see these things. I can read people, it's a gift. I know for a fact if Kanye West were the President of the USA, there would be no racism in the world. I'm so sorry I was born white. It makes me want to VOMIT. I wish we would have a black president, then maybe this country would be free of white people, I hate my race. Look at what the white people did in New Orleans & Mississippi, we are disgusting. Trust me, I know, I'm very liberal and know more than most of you.
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Libby, all right already with the "I'm very liberal" and "vary [sic] smart" 'cause your professors told you so. LOL.
I still say this must be a joke. "They say I'm incredibly brilliant for a blond woman." Again, are you kidding? While you may be incredibly brilliant for a blond woman, trust me, you are coming across as retarded. You might want to preview (more than once) your posts before final submission.
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Fallen, You're Just jealous Because I'm very Liberal, witch means I'm much smarter than you, Sorry. My professors told me so. They told me if you think the liberal way, you will never need to listen to anyone else’s opinion because , my opinion will always be right, even though I’m left…I think I said that right.
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Hey libby! Yes you! This is a direct quote..."You're Just jealous Because I'm very Liberal, witch means I'm just smater than you." Okay, how many spelling errors are in there b/c i count... THREE! First of all, if you were smart like your professors claim you are, then you would only captialize the first letter in the sentence! Also, you would spell "witch" like so... which. A "witch" is an ulgy woman who flys around on her broomstick on Halloween. And last but not least, where is it that you excatly go to school? Kayne Wests' School for Idiots! Oh yeah,that must be a liberal school!
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I'm just trying to show the idiocy of liberal thought. I thought it cam off true to liberalism and it was funny. Liberals are annoying, especially, the snot nosed college kids.
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Tracie you fucking dumb cunt! The media couldn't find any white looters because we all evacuated when we heard a cat 5 was coming. You mud loving slut.
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O.K. Who’s the Imposter using my name, and acting like you're me. I'm very liberal; I can smell a scam artist a mile away. The reason you didn't see any white looter on the news is because they where at the stores early looting and killing black people, I know, I'm very liberal and it's so obvious. You know what, I bet the media enticed the poor black people of New Orleans, to break into the stores and loot them just so they can put it on the news. God white people are evil. I know I'm very liberal, and unfortunately white.
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Snot nose College Kids...... LOL TOO POOR TO GO TO COLLEGE? aw poor guy
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You is all dum, all ya all ain't got no class.
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I was conversating whif my posse, and we all agrees, whity ain't worf nuthing, whity eat shit all day, and it make them sike that's why they white
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i think y'all need to watch the video again. u misnderstood Kay West.And 1 thing u kno he's got a point...your pride is jus blindin u jus caz he attacked a 'white' public figure. The fact that Bush has many blacks in his admin than any other president dont mean he aint racist?I realise most of ya'll aint enlightened on the issues that affect black people...poor black people.
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I was a huge Kanye fan, but now totally despise the man. He was insanely inappropriate with his remarks, and completely incorrect in his statements. FEMA is the only entity that can be blamed...obviously they were not prepared for such a disaster. President Bush must still execute his job with checks and balances...he can't just go out and change things with a flick of the wrist....he's a democratic president, not a king in a monarch land. All intelligent people should ban Kanye West...he is adding to the hatred that much of the world already has for us.
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first of all what kanye said was stupid. half of it made no sense at all. as well he is very naive and iggnorant. this is why we have problems in America bc everyone is so quick say that someone is playing favorites. everyone knows that the black people and the white people both fuck up the same. there were plenty of white poeple that did bad things in new orleans. if you open your eyes you would see the reason it is mostly black people on tv is bc in new orleans there are more black people then whites. everyone is helping just the same... no one cares what color the people are. it is so stupid for people to be saying that. there is enough problems to fix with out crying racism. we should be working together to help people not fighting about it. kanye was wrong for saying that, everyone is helping and he is being naive about that. he is seeing what he wants to. i live in houston and i see how much people are helping. black and white!!!! no racism here just stupidity!
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man you guys need to relax.. go take some time and go listen to kanye west's new album late registration...oh and go donate some money to the red cross or something
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man you guys need to relax..go take some time out and go listen to kanyes west's new album late registration..and go donate some money to the red cross..
peace
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Man, if i didn't know any better I'd think everone on here was perfect and had never committed a single sin EVER. You guys say Kanye's "wack" and yet he's trying to completely change the way hip hop sounds. I guess you guys are into Nelly or some of that other crap but I personally prefer Kanye to 50 Cent ANY day. Kanye's not perfect (as no one is...in case you guys didn't know) but he's 100 times more spiritual and soulful than any other rapper out there. If all Kanye is doing is using sped-up soul samples then how come your albums aren't out yet...I mean anyone can do it. Let me know when your records go Platinum and I'll listen to what you guys have to say.
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Kanye West hates white people.
Kanye West is not very smart. At all.
Kanye West has an underbite much like "Bubba" from Forest Gump. Nearly as smart. Not nearly as wise.
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kanye west hates white people
george bush hates black people
yay
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lol,thatz the smartest thing i`ve ever heard and i hope jeremy comes to this site again.i`ll like to be ur friend. my email addy is rainsweetwater@yahoo.com.
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lol,thatz the smartest thing i`ve heard in awhile and i hope jeremy comes to this site again.i`ll like to be ur friend. my email addy is rainsweetwater@yahoo.com.
i think racism music is so cliche and i wonder if kanye know what "Jesus walks" means.
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He sucks. All new music sucks. You're all a bunch of spoon fed MTV asswipes. Bunch of fucking sheep.
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I'm black, but I'm not poor. You want to know why I'm not effing poor? Because I studied hard in public school and with hard work and with no affirmative action type scholorships I went to college and got a degree. I could have stayed in my neighborhood and did nothing and became as ignorant as the other guys that hung out on the streets and looked for the easy way out, but I didn't. I guess I'm an Uncle Tom because I am conservative and well off. Kanye West is an ignorant man. George Bush is a Christian and a good man. And scdc is right, MTV's music is crap and anyone that buys into it or listens to that commercial pop bs is just as phoney as Kurt Loader and John Norris dressing the way they do and jacking off to Kanye West, Mariah Carey, Josh Stone, etc, etc, etc. All crap. IMO. All you white liberal dopes that want to be poor and black so you can join the cause, have been listening to too much of Jesse Jacksons propaganda. Being lesbian or liberal does not make you black. Quit frontin'.
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That porch monkey just needs to go back to his mansion and stfu. It is clean he is just attention whoring to get publicity. His music sucks and always has, so this must be his last option.
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The only thing keeping black people down is pure laziness, It's a shame but true, all you blacks have been spoon-fed the notion that the government owes you a living, and as long as Uncle Sambo is willing to pay the bill..... Oh well. Nobody likes republicans because we endorse working for a living, not every white person is rich, not every black person is poor, and initiative is the key to the riches.
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I heard 50 cent changed his name to 3Fitty
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hip-hop was co-opted.
only bling and violence make the radio or empty-v, now. rich asshole 'entertainment' executives make sure of it, and that's a solid bet.
the best artists making hip-hop don't get the cover of any magazines anymore, and even back in the day it was rare...
how many people have even heard of, much less heard, the track by Z-Trip: 'Shock And Awe - Feat Chuck D?' (rel.4/19/05)
THAT is some bangin' hip-hop -- but you won't hear it on a ClearChannel near you, or see it on BET...
...but y'all won't hear me. I'm just some stoopid, broke-ass kracker who don't know shit, right?
-beefhaze
...
PS to Muhurk: G.W.Bush is not a Christian. I REPEAT: the president is NOT a Christian. please, don't take my word for it. read Matthew 7:15-23 (for your convenience: just click the link below)
...but you won't hear me, either. I'm just some librul that hates 'Merika and the Preznit, right?
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Why can't all of you poor people just stop whining and make your money like real men, like our Glorious Leader George Bush, did... Inherit it!!
We Republicans believe that everyone should be responsible for their own actions, and held accountable to the same standards... except for George Bush and Our Other Infallible Republican Leaders like Cheney, Santorum, Limbaugh, Poindexter and DeLay!
If you don't agree with everything the Glorious Leader says and does, then you're nothing but a Traitor and a scum-bag and you should be hauled out behind the Crawford Ranch and gut-shot, like the Jesus-hating liberal bastard that you are, because you are destroying our freedom... to do whatever we want to do, and increase our outrageous profit-margins no matter how many poor people have to die in polluted squallor as a result.
You poor people are just ungrateful for everything our Great Hero Bush has done to help you! That's what you are, ungrateful and full of spite for no reason at all.
Oh, and you're all dirty hypocrites and liars. Lazy, too!
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"to do whatever we want to do, and increase our outrageous profit-margins no matter how many poor people have to die in polluted squallor as a result."
Poor people dying? Are you sure that no middle-class or rich people died in Katrina? Enlighten me genius, we're the poor people that died from Katrina's aftermath, poor when Bill Clinton was President? Or did Bush make them poor in the past four years?
Did bush pray to the hurricane god or gods for a hurricane to hit south Louisiana where the majority of the population is African-American, or did he have his secret CIA/NASA/BLACK OPS/SCIENCE WIZARDS seed the clouds that formed Katrina?
Perhaps if the city of New Orleans, which is run by a black mayor, was prepared for the big one like they told their citizens, then indeed, they should have been able to evacuate all people, including the poor black ones within 48 hours. That is those that were willing to be evacuated.
This disaster would have been just as bad, whether people were black or white, rich or poor. Isn't Trent Lott a rich white motherfucker? Yeah, he was, and his house was fucking leveled as well.
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Die you dumb fookin' plagues on society. The world would be a better place if all the nigga rapper would shut the hell up and get back to the cotton fields.
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I just returned from Sri Lanka, and it was beautiful, I'm very liberal so I know, I was sunning myself on the beach with my girlfriends when all the sudden a body washed up on the beach. Now I'm I wrong or hasn't 9 months passed since that tsunami? It total ruin dour trip. You'd think they would have cleaned that area already. Gross
I'm Very liberal and all but, give me a break.
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I don't get this country. Everyone is supposed to be equal, right? Then government programs set different standards for blacks and whites. There are organizations and programs for black people all over the place. I didn't get a merit scholarship because my score was two points below the cutoff. But a black girl at my school scored ten points lower than I did and she got a scholarship...because she was black. I guess the government had lower expectations for her. Of course...we're all equal. Blacks can make organizations exclusively for blacks, and that's OK. But a white man creates an organization open only to whites, and he's racist. I'm sick of blacks taking advantage of this country. Like we owe it to them since our great-great-great grandfather had a friend who owned a slave. Give me a break. I'm not racist. I commend you 110% if you are a hard worker- black or white. But you can't deny that the majority of the black people in this country have been brought up to believe that they don't have to work since the government will pay them for the color of their skin. And to make this more along the lines as relevant...I don't see Kanye in New Orleans helping rescue "his people." Amen.
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I must say I never knew that there were so many Hip Hop experts around. I've never seen so many people talk about "These lyrics are weak" or "Hip Hop is dead". Let me inform you of something....THINGS CHANGE!!! Its called evolution, rap is not the same today as it was 10 years ago. Just because Hip Hop is not in the form it was when hip was - according to the experts Alive. It doesnt mean its not good. Get over yourselves and stop acting like you parents or shut up and adapt.
As for the Second album by Kanye, its great! The best part about it is that he stepped out his rap game. It was already decent but he's shown that he has the ability and want to get better. That is what separates good rappers from Great rappers. Look at Jay-Z albums, everytime out he got better same with Pac and Big. You think Jay's second album Lyrically can compare to the Black album?? This is history in the making enjoy the Kanye West Ride!
"ITS THE ROC"
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When was rap ever good? It sucks Bigger balls than you Freezy
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Nigger, Spook, Jib, jigaboo, tete de negre, eggplant, boon, spoon, purple people.
Can you think of some?
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look im not a racist by any stretch but why ya'll hating on kanye? you didn't see mike meyers up there speaking his mind. you know why? cause he was scared. kanye wasn't scared. he told the world what millions of white people are thinking but would never say. kanye is also one of the best rappers out there listen to his lyrics,thats why college dropout was a classic. get off his back and stop hating on him cause he's a successful black man from chicago. chi-town people will always speak their mind bitches. i'll say it again "George bush doesn't like black people." Chi-town run ya'll bitchses fuck bush!!!!!
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When was rap good??? You know what I think you need to put the vaseline away, and stop SLIPPY SLAPPING yourself and join the real world. What you havent noticed that Rap is a very important part of popular culture?? Get out of your room in the basement of your mommas house and check out whats going on in the world.
"Its me, Freezy baby"
PS. Id say that to your girl....IF you had one
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Rap is an important part of popular culture. Shit...Rap blows more than your mom ever did.
Hey, wait a minute…that sounds like a rap lyric, I just wrote a Fucking Rap Song. Sure as hell don't need to write any music for it. Just need the all important Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Dumb, Beat of a base drum, And steal some music, and that's important, remember, it all a part of popular culture.
Pretty GodDamn offensive isn't it....JackAss
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HAHAHAHAHAH, SlippySlap, HAHAHAHAAAHHA Oh shit that was a GREAT point! " Shit...Rap blows more than your mom ever did" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Is that the way their teaching kids in special ed to debate point. HAHAHAH OH my goodness if I didnt know better I'd think your an ESL student or something.
Yes, as far as your lyrics go A+ your the next Eminem!!!! You little shit stain! hahahaahah
You know what amuse's me, that throughout your entire hare-brained rant. You havent ONCE told me what your little ass listens to. I mean if RAP is SOOOOOOO terrible whats better??? HAHAHAHAH
I find it even funnier that the heading of this message board is "Why you cant ignore KANYE WEST" So what in the WORLD - that is if you dont like rap, are you DOING ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD your fuckin internet pussy! HAHAHAHAAH
Freezy ! THE GOD HAS SPOKEN!!!!
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Hey.. Tyler. YOU'RE WHITE! So stop talking like a fucking nigger. And stop calling your own people crackers. Kanye is a bitch.. bitch rapper, bitch producer. And I hope some of those good ole southern boys lynch that monkey
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This nr is prejudice against his own people. Look what he says about lighter-skinned Black Men,
"I'ma make sure these light skinned niggaz
Never ever never come back in style".
I guess he hates the white in them also.
What a nr!!!!!!!!!!
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Fuck you niggers. I cant' stand you monkeys. All you know how to do is fuck fat white girls and ugly ass black bitches. I am so glad we lost so many niggers in New Orleans. They were poor monkeys anyway. Lazy ass niggers who can't find a job complaining we are not helping them. Why the fuck would we send money to the fuckers who are poor and lazy. Get off your fucking nigger asses and get a job. I can't wait to see more dead niggers in the future. Kanye West better watch his back because I have a hit on his ass. Watch where you go nigga.
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Kanye gives black ppl a bad name. I am through listening to his crap. And to think I liked this guy. He started off as a decent guy but now he thinks his shit doesn't stink and he is better than anyone by flashing and gloating how rich he is. He forgot where he started and his self absorbed ways showed on TV in front of millions. If he cared about the victims of Katrina he would have kept his mouth shut. He may be high on his mountain right now but he is so much of a hypocrite that one day his world will just fall down all around him and he will become a nobody again or in stuck in jail for think he was invincible to America and it's laws.
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Kevin I can agree with some of what you say but not the racist part of it.
There are intelligent black in the world who now how to act like decent human beings.
N.O. was a horrible situation and a lot of it had to do with ignorance and class. Look how well Houston and the surrounding areas reacted to Rita? I am sure Katrina taught them better. But even in a desparate wiat for time onthe highways running out of gas and being hot they still acted like decent human beings.
It makes me mad that I have to give money to ppl like those in N.O. because they "have nothing". Bullshit! They get money from our taxes to help support their laziness. So many of them don't work. How is it that most of them have better televisions, better clothes, better jewlery, better cars, better everything but yet cannot afford to pay for their home, bills, food and gas?
The gov't should take a good look at this and start making some of these ppl get a job and work. Welfare is for those who cannot work because of a disability. Not everyone in N.O. was disable. I get pissed when wetbacks come to this country taking jobs however I had to stop and think about it....they are here to work the odd end jobs that the poor class chose not to take because they think they are too good for these jobs. You gotta start somewhere.
I saw many strong looking grown adults there that could have made a difference in the situation they were in at the dome and collesium(sp). What did I see....a lot of cussing and yelling and only one lady raking the trash. I bet she was one of the few who had a job in that city.
One of the evacuees who came to our city told me that he worked for UPS and he said a large percent of the city was worthless. A bunch of drugs, gangs and lazy asses.
Comments were made how America was there for the tsunami victims. It took us a little while to get there as well. The difference...the victims actually got out there and started helping with the rescue efforts. I even saw kids picking up debris. All I saw at the dome was whining and crying. Yeah...they were in a horrible situation but don't just sit there and whine....do something about it until help arrives. Maybe the next time N.O does get a hurricane maybe they will haul ass out of time in a decent manner. Oh I forgot...they will because all of the the cities that took some of the evacuees will end up having to provide for them forever now because they are too lazy to get up and move back home. Only the ones with a job will go back and N.O. will actually become a decent city.
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Excuse the errors. Didn't proofread...too angry to.
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Wow, what year is it??? are you STILL using the word nigger as a derogatory term to describe Black people?? HAHAHA Wow thats funny cause I mean like your great great great great grandparents used that word to describe Black people. So it looks like from that time till now the level of intelligence in your family has not risen at ALL!!!!! haahahahah Come up with some new shit to say!!! You fuckin moron's!!!!
PS Lynching people??!?!?! Really?!?!? are there not more create ways of elimiating the dominant race!!!
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Oh, that was to Kevin K. Krue.
Its Freezy!
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Oh, that was to Kevin K. Krue.
Its Freezy!
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I'm a middle class mixed race person. I am proud to be my colour. I study hard because I want a decent job. But I am pissed off that in this world there are so many people who don't work and simply sit around all day collecting state benefits. It is wrong. They should reduce the benefit given to job less people so they are forced to get a job. Want to know why America was booming in the 1920's? Because taxes were low and there was no state benefits. People were forced to work hard. That led to the greatest boom in American history. Under the only cicumstances should people recieve benefits and that is if they're disabled.
Work hard then you can play hard. Look at Puffy "I am the American Dream" did he sit on his arse all day? No he worked and he is a billionaire. Proof that people at the bottom if they work hard can make it. They wouldn't be sitting at home watching cable all day moaning about their bad life.
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Yo, Dan, America boomed in the 90s, too, and the taxes were higher than under the GOP in the 20s. Do you remember how the 20s ended? Only someone who's never been on "state benefits" would say you'd choose that over working.
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Ive come u with another word other then n****r. I call them Monday's. :] Think about it.
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I have never heard of kayne west as I don't listen to that garbage. However I will say this, after hearing what he said on fox. Does he have the inside scoop as to what GW thinks about black people. I have my opinion, integration does not work. Black and White people would be happier seperated. It does not mean you have to persecute. Kayne West, looks like another unrecognizable face in the world of hip-hop that is going nowhere.
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What is wrong with everybody on here, a lot of these posts are ridiculous. If you are not happy with Kanye, don't buy his stuff. Hip hop is about expession and that is exactly what he is doing. He doesn't wear "baggy jeans and jerseys and he never hustle, never sold drugs" so he has different things to talk about. He has a right to be cocky because nobody believed in him or felt that he was worth anything but beats. Now they like him all of a sudden. He is just telling his story, just expressing himself and if you dont like it then you can shove it because he is doing what pays him.
What about you, do you!!!!!!!!
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All of you need to really get a grip. Why must this be so racist. Kanye don't hate white people, he hates Bush. He hates what makes it hard for black people. Don't HATE ON him for that. When he talks about light skinned dudes, it has NOTHING to do with white people. Of course you would have to live in the black community to understand that.
Don't make things difficult by adding racism to everything because that is just a b.s. It is blocks what is real. Kanye just wants to help the people with whom he identifies with the problems that are going on in there lives. He aint got no reason to hate the world, just the problem.
PS: A lot of people relate to his music, so if you don't and you don't like it, find something else to listen to.
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What is it that is hard for blacks?
Please explain CoolWithKanye. I am not trying to give you a hard time but I want to know if I am not seeing something out there.
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Mondays huh! Wow....Lame but hey at least it shows that "your people" have made some progress in the last what 4-5 Centuries! Well I think this calls for a celebration! Hot dogs and kraft dinner for everybody!! you've FINALLY thought up some shit on your own!
Well I guess this is history in the making folks you've seen it here first - A white dude with some new thoughts!
Freezy
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If Kanye is not Racist why does he say that White people should stick to listening to white music and Black people should stick to listening to black music. It's not the Whites that made this issue about Race, it's Kanye. If Eminem would have stepped up and said something to that effect in reverse, the entire Black community would rip his head off. Music has no color! I'm so tired of everything being about Race. Shit is the way it is and that's it. New Orleans was F'd up because the Govenor and Mayor didn't get along..... NO, now its white people against black people again. If we don't let it go....If whites don't stop stupid comments like written above "go back to picking cotton" and blacks don't stop using Racism as an excuse everytime something doesn't go thier way, we'll never leave it behind. I would say that the roles are completly reversed in today's age and that Black are more racist than whites. But when a Black person say something in a racist manner, its not racism. What the hell is that? I love all people, no matter what color or creed. I judge you by who you are as a person... White, no ambishion, drive or responsibilty "white trash".... Black, yellow, green or red with the same..... "Trash as well". I judge you by who you are in this world.
Oh, and Kanye can't rap...he has no flow and talks country as shit. Jay-Z he'll never be!
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well said Mike.
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Can anyone say Mohammad Ali..he too sometimes made me flinch.."I'm a preety man" "Joe frazier is ugly, like a gorrila' but I love him..whites are reacting like that..go hate on Howard Stern, He has white skin but he is a hater like some white folks hated and still don't like Ali" Kanye has Ali's kind of arrogance and even with his mother's untimely death..he rises!!
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Ha ha.I just is ignorant white folk. Yes, I is.
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HAHA Man you are hilarious. Im a white middle class male and I just wanted to remind you, everything you live and thrive off of is due to us letting you have it. Guess what I learned in college, two percent of the entire population of the US have real money,money a black man would never dream of having, and due to the policies and regulation that were put into place before you were set free will always keep it that way. Take a sociology class you arrogant dumbass. By the way you don't have to be above middle class to pull hot ass. You saying so only means you couldnt pull any ass if you werent above middle class. Your just another pathetic piece of trash pedaling the same crap your little rap idols do.
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Every black family i know has between 4 to 6 children. The children have 4 to 6 and then those children have 4 to 6. With all this baby making how is it that blacks are still a minority? I'll tell you. Black on black crimes. They dont know how to be civil. The decent ones that do move to a white neighborhood and the ni@@ers stay around and kill each other. Kanye West is a perfect example.
This country has made him rich because of his voice. Yet, he feels like everyone still owes him something. His dead mother would turn over in her grave if she knew how he behaved.
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