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You Might Be An Indie-Yuppie If...

Just had to pullquote this from that Vice article:

"I feel like there has been created, in the past two to three years, an indie-yuppie establishment. Bands like Death Cab for Cutie, Iron and Wine, the Arcade Fire, Broken Social Scene, they are great bands, really great bands, with great albums, great songs, high quality. And to me, it's just so fucking boring," he says. "It’s like fancy-coffee-drinking, Volvo-riding music for kids. And kids should be listening to music that shakes them up more, makes them uncomfortable."
Let's hear your best Foxworthian "You Might Be An Indie-Yuppie If..." joke in the comments. Funniest one gets an O.C. Mix CD and a subscription to Paste.

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You might be an Indie-Yuppie if, you get pissed and pick a fight with someone that doesn't like the Arcade Fire on the stereogum comments board.

Posted by: hagar at 04/12/05 5:44 PM | Reply
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You might be an Indie-Yuppie If you want an O.C. Mix CD and a subscription to Paste.

Posted by: Sharpmath at 04/12/05 5:45 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if you are reading this...


oh crap

Posted by: O'Brien at 04/12/05 5:47 PM | Reply
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If you're on your second (or more) iPod.

Posted by: Laurel at 04/12/05 5:50 PM | Reply
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mainstream success is like, so lame, dude. where did i put my smack? *nods off*

Posted by: Alex Blagg at 04/12/05 5:51 PM | Reply
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You might be an Indie-Yuppie if your heart flutters anytime you see a raven entwined in red yarn.

Posted by: cindy loohoo at 04/12/05 5:56 PM | Reply
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Off topic, but if you go to Britney's site, you'll see she confirms her pregnancy, and refers to the fact that she was in the hospital over the weekend.

Posted by: carlie at 04/12/05 5:57 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if you're one of those guys that has the sorta shaggy hairdo with it spiking towards your cheek bones against your face with more hair gel in it than I've ever used in my lifetime.
- and im an old b!tch!!

Posted by: chohoh at 04/12/05 6:03 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie if you have any sort of disdain for people that listen to the arcade fire, and broken social scene and/or you work for vice.

Posted by: jennie dimeglio at 04/12/05 6:09 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you believe the Killers/Bravery row, could escalate into a Biggie/Tupac style gun-fight.

Posted by: Ben at 04/12/05 6:12 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you believe Dizzee Rascal is down with Marx

Posted by: magicgoose at 04/12/05 6:18 PM | Reply
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You might be an Indie-Yuppie if you can suck your own knob.

Posted by: Robert at 04/12/05 6:27 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if the new Bloc Party LP really helped you get through those last few days to make sure you met your billable hours requirement at the end of the month.

Posted by: Justin at 04/12/05 6:30 PM | Reply
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If you use your Itunes as a source for "indie" music and your Ipod as a fashion accessory, you might, nay, are an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: Indie+Yuppie=Sucks at 04/12/05 6:45 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you love Death Cab For Cutie, but really want to know more about this post office band you keep hearing about.

Posted by: Georgy at 04/12/05 6:47 PM | Reply
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You might be an Indie yuppie if you know the release date for Stephen Malkmus' new record.

Posted by: richard at 04/12/05 6:53 PM | Reply
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You might be an I-Y if:
- you actually know the bands name-dropped in this post, have their music, and have been to one or 2 of their shows
- you buy your "ironic" tees at full price, or at least not at a second-hand store
- you have ever worn your belt buckle a few inches to the right or left of your pants' zipper
- you know someone who works at a magazine and have used their cred to get stuff
- you blog

Posted by: kp at 04/12/05 6:55 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if Rolling Stone, The New York Times and your favorite local record store have been replaced in the last 3 years by Pitchfork Media, Salon.com and the iTunes store.

Posted by: VeraCruz at 04/12/05 6:55 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you downloaded all the songs from today's post and made a mix cd to show all youe friends that you're "so into the music scene."

Posted by: Sycz at 04/12/05 6:55 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if you are me.

Posted by: tanya at 04/12/05 6:56 PM | Reply
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or you might be an indie yuppie if you think the OC is a beautified version of "My So Called Life."

Posted by: richard at 04/12/05 6:56 PM | Reply
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If you think Nellie McKay is the new Nora Jones.

Posted by: Sycz at 04/12/05 6:58 PM | Reply
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or...you might be an indie yuppie if you buy your ironic tee's at urban outfitters.

Posted by: richard at 04/12/05 6:59 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie if you think colin meloy is the new morrissey.

Posted by: brian at 04/12/05 7:03 PM | Reply
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... you're all meta-ironic.

Posted by: noah at 04/12/05 7:04 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie...if you read vice magazine.

Posted by: matthew at 04/12/05 7:13 PM | Reply
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If your jeans cost more than an iPod, but your t-shirt cost less than a pack of gum...you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: seiche at 04/12/05 7:17 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie if you learned about grime music from sasha frere-jones in the new yorker, and then felt hip when you downloaded some dizee rascal off stereogum.

Posted by: rachel at 04/12/05 7:21 PM | Reply
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Isn't the O.C. is just a modern day 90210?

Posted by: skippy at 04/12/05 7:30 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you'll forever hate Zach Braff for bringing Iron & Wine's cover of "Such Great Heights" to the masses, thus lowering your coolness factor with the girls you made mix CDs for that included the song as their coup de grace and also for the loss of said song as a staple in your mix CD stable.

Posted by: Nelson at 04/12/05 7:33 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if you love Death Cab and Bright Eyes and live in Newport Beach with your parents and drive around in Range Rover while homoerotic sparks fly between you and your semi-adopted, brother-from-the-wrong-side-of-the-tracks. (And you date a lesbian because she's soooo alternative and gets you free tickets to The Killers.)

Posted by: Jenny at 04/12/05 7:33 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie if

-you own two copies of every indie album- one on CD and one on vinyl
-you spend all day on the Lower East Side waiting to meet Ryan Adams.
-you actually want to meet Ryan Adams.

Posted by: Robo at 04/12/05 7:36 PM | Reply
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If you've ever spent an hour and a half grooming yourself prior to going out to an indie show, with the intention of looking like you just got out of bed, you might be an indie-hippie.

If you've ever discussed your disgust of yayo immediately before blowing a line, you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: buzz at 04/12/05 7:38 PM | Reply
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If you want Jenny's (see above) phone number, you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: buzz at 04/12/05 7:39 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if you poop. Do I get both the prizes or do I choose between them?

Posted by: RickSlick at 04/12/05 7:43 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if it bothers you that Vice Recordings figureheads can say sentences like "I don’t think we’re ever going to sign an indie rock band" when they're the home of the Stills. [Who I do actually like, but are quite mundane indie rock.]

Posted by: RSL at 04/12/05 7:48 PM | Reply
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if you listen to the postal service & tell others "i listen to electronica, too"

Posted by: cordani at 04/12/05 7:56 PM | Reply
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If you ironically feign interest in the personal life of Britney Spears, you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: Joey Headset at 04/12/05 8:01 PM | Reply
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if you happen to be steve malkmus

Posted by: cordani at 04/12/05 8:03 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you were offended by any of the comments above. Or you're just soft.

Posted by: David at 04/12/05 8:04 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you didn't know that yuppie meant young urban professional, but you did want to ape his musical collection.

Posted by: Ryan at 04/12/05 8:08 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if...
-You consider Pall Malls and Pabst a nice, balanced, vegan meal
-You say "X is the new Y" and can both mean it ironically and un-ironically.
-You've ever seriously played Their Older Stuff Was Better or Name the Obscure Band
-You have a complex, yet predictable, relationship with pitchforkmedia: Excitement, Exploration, Eschewing, Ennui

Posted by: Elliott at 04/12/05 8:12 PM | Reply
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You might be a Yuppindie if you think it is humorously ironic to go back to Hot Topic because Urban Outfitters is just "too popular" or if you want your clothes to look second-hand but absolutely refuse to wear clothes that could have touched another body in their lifetime. Also if you're willing to pay more than $15 for a t-shirt.

Posted by: Ryan Rockit at 04/12/05 8:17 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if you actually listen to bloc party and read vice

and embrace terry richardson's photos

Posted by: shc at 04/12/05 8:18 PM | Reply
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...you go to Death Cab shows and scream out requests for Postal Service songs.

Posted by: Lindsey at 04/12/05 8:23 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if you're me.

Posted by: Scott at 04/12/05 8:25 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie, if you searched and searched for Matt Pond PA's cover of "Champagne Supernova" to no avail, and wish you could be as lucky as that damn Cohen. Oh, and you just found about Paste, strangely, and found a lot of good music on their, sending you into a strange alt. country kick for the next month or two.

Wait, was this supposed to be true?

Bah, I'll come up with something later...

Posted by: the311saint at 04/12/05 8:26 PM | Reply
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VOTE FOR NELSON.

seriously, that comment made me spit out my evian.

er, i'm not an indie-yuppie. i swear.

Posted by: Liz at 04/12/05 8:31 PM | Reply
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You might be an Indie Yuppie if:

-- your Ipod playlist is better than everyone else's at work, and they don't know who the hell anyone on it is.
-- your parents were indie-yuppies back in the day and later became white-collar Republicans.
-- you claim to watch The OC just for the music.
-- you've either become depressed, had sex, gotten drunk, slit your wrist, AND danced to Interpol at different times.

Posted by: Nocturne at 04/12/05 8:38 PM | Reply
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You might be an I-Y if... your clothing budget is higher than your music budget. Plus, you actually have a music budget. (I know, you needed it when you bought your Prius).

Posted by: paul at 04/12/05 8:39 PM | Reply
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You can afford tickets to all the good "indie" shows, and perfected the right amount of disdain in voice while saying "I hope this isn't an all ages show."

Posted by: leslie at 04/12/05 8:42 PM | Reply
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you might be an indie yuppie if you heard that phoenix band for the first time while innocently perusing the sales rack of the gap for some straight-leg jeans and then happily, and with no doubts, laid out eighteen dollars for the whole album.

alternately, you might be an indie yuppie if you thought that garden state was a really, really good movie.

Posted by: christine at 04/12/05 8:58 PM | Reply
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wait, that would just make you an indie asshole.

Posted by: christine at 04/12/05 8:59 PM | Reply
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What?

You all are Indie-Yuppies! Get over it!

Posted by: darren at 04/12/05 9:00 PM | Reply
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If you wrote your congressman about MIA's trouble getting into the US, you might be an indie-yuppie.

If you ironically shop at the GAP, you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: Ben at 04/12/05 9:04 PM | Reply
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if people ask you how you find out about all those obscure bands.....and you just say "i don't know" (because it's just too complicated).

Posted by: john at 04/12/05 9:16 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you check Insound before checking your email.

Posted by: Marel Nasinnyk at 04/12/05 9:28 PM | Reply
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Sorry, make that GMAIL.

Posted by: Marel Nasinnyk at 04/12/05 9:29 PM | Reply
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if you are reading my comment i'm making now because you read through the comments above acting as if it was a personality test for your indie-yuppieage, yeah i'd say you are an indie yuppie

Posted by: landon at 04/12/05 9:32 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if you had a college radio show, but that college was Princeton.

Seriously though, as a certifiable yuppie, indie rawk has been moving my way for a long time. We staged a hostile takeover of Yo La Tengo and financed the leveraged buyout of Low's slowcore (marketing thought it could use a "punch-up").

Posted by: Topher at 04/12/05 9:32 PM | Reply
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does indie mean independent? because everything listed does not fall into that category. so maybe we're just mainstream yuppies.

but to add to the list:

-going to shows just so you can say you have been.

Posted by: kavin at 04/12/05 9:39 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppy if, while listening to a new CD, you secretly pray you'll like it.

Posted by: Joel M. at 04/12/05 9:41 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppy if trucker hats NOW seem pretty silly.

Posted by: Joel M. at 04/12/05 9:44 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if all of the above comments resonated with you, except for that one about nellie mckay or nora jones, because you would never be caught dead listening to either one.

Posted by: sarta at 04/12/05 10:10 PM | Reply
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You might be a indie-yuppy if you jack-off to pictures of Ben Gibbard

Posted by: Nate at 04/12/05 10:14 PM | Reply
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I'm so conflicted. I want to group-hug my fellow indie-yuppies, but I also want to punch us all in the kidneys. I want to maniacally download new stuff to keep up (hearken to radio show days past), but I also want to get drunk, dance, make out and read the New Yorker while listening to Interpol (first album--GOSH).

Posted by: Jen W at 04/12/05 10:16 PM | Reply
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=( i like broken social scene.

and indie-yuppie is such a lame term.

Posted by: faye at 04/12/05 10:17 PM | Reply
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I ironically feign interest in Britney Spear's personal life, but not because I'm an indie yuppie...I'm just a sad case...

Posted by: Emma at 04/12/05 10:18 PM | Reply
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My votes for top 5:

1. You might be an indie yuppy if trucker hats NOW seem pretty silly.

Posted by: Joel M. at April 12, 2005 09:44 PM


2. You might be an indie-yuppie if...
-You have a complex, yet predictable, relationship with pitchforkmedia: Excitement, Exploration, Eschewing, Ennui

Posted by: Elliott at April 12, 2005 08:12 PM


3. You might be an indie yuppie if you saw garden state and now consider the shins to be "life-changing."

posted by: me


4. you might be an indie yuppie if you have any sort of disdain for people that listen to the arcade fire, and broken social scene and/or you work for vice.

Posted by: jennie dimeglio at April 12, 2005 06:09 PM


5. You might be an indie-yuppie if you love Death Cab For Cutie, but really want to know more about this post office band you keep hearing about.

Posted by: Georgy at April 12, 2005 06:47 PM

Posted by: Cusim Bons at 04/12/05 10:47 PM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if you are psyched that Volkswagen has some new commercials coming out.

Posted by: ken at 04/12/05 11:29 PM | Reply
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Honestly, I'm a little saddened by some of the comments here. Get real! You read stereogum, you probably read other music blogs like music for robots, fluxblog, largeheartedboy, etc. I'm sure you visit Pitchfork and look down on Rolling Stone and Spin. Who are you guys kidding? You are all Indie-Yuppies. I am an Indie-Yuppie. Who cares? Of course, it all depends on how you define the term, but if you agree it means music snob then why are y'all pretending to not be one? It's important to remember that no matter who you are, what you like, and what you believe in, YOU can be made fun of. I can mock anyone for anything and have it be apt. Quit worrying so much about it and decide on the things that you don't care if someone makes fun of you for because those are the things that are important to you and that's a big part of who you are. Accept others (yes, even earnest Britney fans) and then, maybe, you won't mind yourself so much. Sorry to get all serious here, but I think it's good advice.

BTW, if that advice applied to you, you might be an indie-yuppie.

Posted by: Adam at 04/12/05 11:30 PM | Reply
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You have a complex, yet predictable, relationship with pitchforkmedia: Excitement, Exploration, Eschewing, Ennui.
clever..damn clever. good job elliot.

amazingly enough, the same 4 steps apply to about everything we yuppies read.

Posted by: imayup at 04/12/05 11:52 PM | Reply
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You Might Be An Indie-Yuppie If... you check thecobrasnake.com daily to see your picture.

Posted by: theblackarm at 04/12/05 11:53 PM | Reply
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... you were confused by Elvis Costello's absence from the film Napoleon Dynamite.

Posted by: Also named Adam at 04/13/05 12:06 AM | Reply
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...if you drink sparks, shop at hot topic and claim to go to your family's house in jersey on friday night because its "cool to be close to your family," instead of admitting that they are really just giving you money because they support your LES apartment and habits.

Posted by: riddles at 04/13/05 12:23 AM | Reply
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INDIE-YUPPIE PRIDE!!!!!!!!!!!

...

don't hate.
[you all secretly want to be as scene us anyways]

damn I have not worn my belt buckle in the center of my pants since, fifth grade HOMESKILLETS

Posted by: loveanddeath at 04/13/05 12:45 AM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if you don't think ultragrrrl is the anti-christ.

Posted by: nick at 04/13/05 1:00 AM | Reply
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haha, riddles you funny. are you sure you're name ain't marilyn bateman? or whatever moniker the ultragrrrl hata used to use on the comments section.

Posted by: rachel at 04/13/05 1:20 AM | Reply
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Adam,
most of the people posting here are probably indie yuppies and they know it, and are not necessarily mocking indie yuppies, but being good sports about making fun of their own selves. But you misinterpret the term. It doesn't mean "music snob." If you look at how VICE is using it, he is trying to say that indie music has reached the yuppie generation, but he himself wants to listen to something that hasn't reached the yuppie generation. Of course when that reaches the yuppies, he will stop listening to it and move on to something else, which makes HIM the music snob.

Posted by: gary t at 04/13/05 1:26 AM | Reply
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You might be an indie yuppie if you get back from a rock show, and don't understand why all the kids were dancing the way they were.

Posted by: Jeff at 04/13/05 1:38 AM | Reply
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You all talk about garden state, The OC, Britney Spears and Gap commericals. The people who that say the shins are "life changing" arent even indie yuppies, they are college meatheads and soccer moms, but isnt that always the cycle? You (Gawker and Pfork Included) hate on the oc and Britney yet give them more publicity than the pope and schiavo combined. Start caring more about how great the PIP soundtrack was rather than taking yourself so god damn seriously

Posted by: Jay at 04/13/05 1:50 AM | Reply
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So true indeed Jay, so true.

Posted by: Eliza at 04/13/05 1:57 AM | Reply
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You might be an indie-yuppie if...
on your lunch break from Microsoft, you drive your Jetta to the record store to buy whatever you just heard on KEXP (even if you don't really like it all that much) while wearing jeans that cost more than my car payment and praying that we don't remember you when you were nu-metal two years ago. Your idea of a great evening is going to the Cha-Cha and trying not to obviously gawk at assorted members of the Sub Pop roster while drinking a 40 of Rainier. You may have told people that "Bright Eyes isn't the new Dylan, he's the new Cash", but you still listen to Britney Spears-- in an ironic fashion. You actually don't own any Cash beyond American IV.

Posted by: Jessica at 04/13/05 1:58 AM | Reply
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Sadly, this is so true. Kids need a Black Flag record dropped into their laps...

Posted by: Owen at 04/13/05 2:05 AM | Reply
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You Might Be an Indie-Yuppie if you have a pair of glasses like Rivers Cuomo for fashion and a pair for reading

Posted by: spitfirepress at 04/13/05 2:15 AM | Reply
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you might be an indie-yuppie if your ipod wasn't a christmas present.

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because when your living on the cheap side of life (aka in college), you can sadly ill-afford such things.

Posted by: robina at 04/13/05 4:24 AM | Reply
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this is just another purge from the cool kids

Posted by: a at 04/13/05 5:07 AM | Reply
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you might be POST-indie yuppie if

- you pretend not to know what the OC is then act pleasantly surprised when people talk about it having interpol on it and stuff. "Oh wow, so is it a good show as well or what?"
- your ipod contains lots of Sibelius, Big Daddy Kane and "Music Of Islam" volumes 2 through 9
- you think that arcade fire band are pretty good. they have a good live show, i guess.
- you dig like two death cab songs but dont really like them. a bit boring, really.
- you randomly interject dated hip hop slang like "def" and "suckas" into your otherwise white suburban vocabulary
- you make an attempt to show that your love for radiohead is superior to anyone else's, particularly indie yuppies. say stuff like "man, that new steve reich-inflected radiohead joint is the jam!" and hate the bends

Posted by: post-indie yuppie at 04/13/05 5:14 AM | Reply
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...if you think the jury's still out on Maroon 5.

Posted by: Patrick at 04/13/05 5:57 AM | Reply
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We're guilty of at least 3 of these things at some point:

a) You laugh, remark to yourself "how very true" upon reading these comments...and then copy cobrasnake.com into a new tab on firefox, "just to see what it is."

b) you've heard of malaysian Mogwai-esque bands such as Damn Dirty Apes (www.noisemonkies.com), and name-drop when you can.

c) You still read Vice, and the first thing you go to is the Do/Don't section, and check past issues online to see what perfect Do/Don't you may have missed.

d) You forked out for the new Adbuster's sneaker (trainer), to achieve indie cred. Kettle/Pot interface somewhere here.

d2) you suscribe to Adbusters, after you picked up an issue at the Virgin on Union Square.

e) Loved Refused's "Shape of..." for the longest time, then dropped it for NOU's "13-Point Programme..."

f) With a highlighter and google handy, you've got the NYT article "Indie Designers Pin Hopes (and Clothes) on Indie Singers" boiled down to shopping tips.* **

g) You don't think you are, but you are.


* : The NYT article in question from last year can be found at http://www.thecrusade.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=4874

**: And yes, I do love the Bellmer Dolls.

Posted by: Adnan Yazdani at 04/13/05 6:24 AM | Reply
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Subscribe, not suscribe. the shame...

Posted by: Adnan Yazdani at 04/13/05 6:26 AM | Reply
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If you think Napoleon Dynamite should have won Best Picture of the Year at the Oscars.

If you frequent many "indie" messageboards and ask for recommendations on a regular basis, and/or ask the other members to "rate your purchases".

If you wrote a small essay for your English class on