Ok I don’t mean any disrespect here cause I’ve agreed with a lot of what you said, though I unequiovcally love Adore. if I could shift any overall critical reception of any album it would be that…but to your main point here.
Oceania isn’t perfect, it’s sort of pleasant, not bad but it’s not quite a classic and while i wouldnt say Coldplay it definitely has it’s softer moments and lyrically it’s quite cringey but I have to tackle you on your if you wanna rock, rock, if you wanna go dreamy go dreamy. The album you cite as one of your favourites in siamese dream has that exact split. it has some the rockiest moments set against its dreamy components again and again. The break down in Geek USA, the crescendo of Soma, the whole stop start of Silverfuck.
Now Oceania will never reach those heights but it shows that at their best this Dreamy vs. Rock debate about their music never existed. these two elements blended superbly.
I think the rot started with Untitled, it seems like Billy forget how to put dynamics into his singing. from that point on, through Zwan and even here it always feels like whatever the melody is he’s just trying to cram in as much vocal as possible and in an artless enough way. compare this to something like Set the Ray to Jerry, a b-side but where there seems to be more of an innate understanding of how to complement the melody. I’m not sure I’m articulating it right but this sort of trend in his later songwriting has been the biggest turn off for me. It just feels like he forgot how to properly craft a song. And to be honest I wouldnt blame him. In his hey day he was so prolific but while I don’t think Oceania is a total return to form it definitely feels like he’s regained some song writing guile, he just has to develop it into the magic of old.
Ok I don’t mean any disrespect here cause I’ve agreed with a lot of what you said, though I unequiovcally love Adore. if I could shift any overall critical reception of any album it would be that…but to your main point here.
Oceania isn’t perfect, it’s sort of pleasant, not bad but it’s not quite a classic and while i wouldnt say Coldplay it definitely has it’s softer moments and lyrically it’s quite cringey but I have to tackle you on your if you wanna rock, rock, if you wanna go dreamy go dreamy. The album you cite as one of your favourites in siamese dream has that exact split. it has some the rockiest moments set against its dreamy components again and again. The break down in Geek USA, the crescendo of Soma, the whole stop start of Silverfuck.
Now Oceania will never reach those heights but it shows that at their best this Dreamy vs. Rock debate about their music never existed. these two elements blended superbly.
I think the rot started with Untitled, it seems like Billy forget how to put dynamics into his singing. from that point on, through Zwan and even here it always feels like whatever the melody is he’s just trying to cram in as much vocal as possible and in an artless enough way. compare this to something like Set the Ray to Jerry, a b-side but where there seems to be more of an innate understanding of how to complement the melody. I’m not sure I’m articulating it right but this sort of trend in his later songwriting has been the biggest turn off for me. It just feels like he forgot how to properly craft a song. And to be honest I wouldnt blame him. In his hey day he was so prolific but while I don’t think Oceania is a total return to form it definitely feels like he’s regained some song writing guile, he just has to develop it into the magic of old.