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Only a true fool or one without a conscience would troll about the Boston Bombings, so no “Addo”, ’tis no troll. It very well may or may not be “the” Amanda Palmer, but her “poem speaks for itself, that not only is it shoddy, but her sympathies lie with terrorists. Why I devoted pages to this discussion, I do not know. I suppose its penance for my previous inane trolling tomfoolery, but if she’s going to spit in the face of America and the victims of said tragedy, I don’t think enough opinions can be expressed.
But that’s the point sometimes of these boards-to be pro-active in exposing shitty people doing/saying shitty things. She’s worse then Morrisey and probably the next time she’s in the “news” I’ll politely ignore her. But on behalf of the Boston Bombing victims and common decency, I stand by every post I made to her and every post here. Girl needs to really get a grasp on a lot of things, the least of her problems being grammar and poetry.
So I really like how she sarcastically closed her message to me with a P.S. about buying her hot new single! Nothing like writing a piece defending it as a “bomb” just of a different sort. Sorry but I think this woman is somewhat mental. Liberalism and social activism or whatever guise she parades under now has a line of demarcation and sounds like she crossed it. I’m reminded of Serj Tankian ( whom I adore) and when he wrote a piece on “Understanding Oil” on the day of 9/11. It was ill timed, yes, and it sounds like he was trying to some some fair justification about Saudi ties to 9/11 and the protective engendering of those ties under the Bush administration. It was ill timed of course and there was outrage, but I think he was politically motivated. Serj fights for social justice and among other things, recognizing genocide, ect. Noble things. Palmer seems to prostitute and milk tragedy for a buck. Remember her siamese twin act that included a fake bio about sexual abuse? Really funny Palmer. Your “art”. I saw her perform and do a chilling rendition of Polly in which Cobain had written about the torture and abuse of a victim at the hands of her tormenters. But….that was different. Cobain wasn’t sympathizing with the persecutors. In fact he called them out as wastes of sperm and egg. Palmer is vicariously fraternizing with a terrorist and the buck stops there. Her concerns in the spotlight are on that murdering nut who blew up over a hundred people, killing an 8 year old boy. She calls her poem “art” and defends it to the breath. Well bullshit to that, bullshit to her “art” and bullshit to anybody who uses tragedy to furthermore sell their exclusive I-tunes tracks as well as beneath her give money for Boston, include a give money to Amanda Palmer. Ok. I’m done. She disgusts me.
Amanda Palmer replied to my dissent on her “blog”. I’d like to emphasize that she wholeheartedly refuses to understand how her words are so run rampant insensitive and how she plugs her stupid song at the end of her socially “conscious” think piece. This woman should be banned from music for life on sheer principle of being a female tool. Here is the 100% genuine exchange and my response. The first thing I wrote here to her you can find under my alias ‘Corky Anderson”. Didn’t feel the need to repeat it, but yeah, this is this gal’s feelings for everyone to see. She should certainly and hopefully lose fans for her utter insensitivity and careless frivolous attitude towards the Boston bombing. At least I really hope she does. Here it is=
Amanda Palmer sfhjksft3267g • 7 hours ago
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I feel the need to make an official artist statement regarding this controversial poem: I regret nothing. As an artist I am free to make any assumptions I choose and create on those personal, whether unpopular, based wholly on those assumptions. I am Dhzokar. You are Dhzokar. Yin, Yang. The offense by the lot of you is taken is proof to me that my work is powerful, that many sympathize with this poor boys misguided attempt at his “15 minutes” whether or not they feel comfortable admitting it to themselves. I’ve had mine and, let me tell you, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be. My personal bomb was my music and now, this poem. His personal bomb was a literal bomb. Is there really much of a difference? People have said my music hit them like a bomb and many in other parts of the world hear the sounds bombs make as music, a soundtrack to their lives. And if assuming we all have iPhones and eat thai food is hardly an assumption…Have you travelled Boston? I’ve walked these wartorn streets and sang for the cities beaten-down lower class for hardly any pay. I have worked hard to get Boston’s name on the map and I don’t feel it was so bad to use Boston to help put my name back on the map. I regret nothing…
Not so sorry,
Amanda Palmer
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sfhjksft3267g Amanda Palmer • 4 minutes ago
In spite of my obvious fury at your poem, I appreciate your response. I still strongly disagree and I feel that as an artist, yes, you certainly have free reign to self expression, but the troubling part is that AS an artist, why glorify evil? I see this theme echoed in the sentiment of other gifted artists ( and in fairness you are.) They write from the vantage point or the inner dialogue of a serial killer, school shooter, suicide victim, ect. But what does this prove? In what way does this breathe life into tragedy and offer a ray of sunshine? With your poem, you chose for a glaring moment in the media sun (as this has been covered on most of the indie blogs) to dwell on this evil young man who walked into a crowd of men, women and children, smiling and leaving 2 minutes later as their body parts blew away. Think for a minute Amandda Palmer. That 8 year old child…he deserved to be in your poetic spotlight. The man who had his legs blown off and turned ashen death grey…I’m sure he had some serious ruminations in his mind that were of greater significance and pathos to write about. Amanda Palmer, as an artist, you must understand that posting a sympathetic piece ( that IS how most people are taking it) about a man who murdered innocents is not going to be taken well. Certainly, you as an artist are brave and empowered and I have enjoyed the rawness of your shows. But when you concluded your self-vindication with the sentiment that “I am Dhzokar, you are Dhzokar”, no way man. Noooooooooo way. As hurt in life as I have been ( and indeed I have been), I’ve never willingly walked into scores of innocent souls, smiled, left a bomb and walked off to the screams of their torture and the smells of their burning flesh. I simply don’t understand any justification, particularly in light of how FRESH and recent this horrific tragedy has been. I know there is a lot of hateful comments on here directed to you,, and I certainly don’t hate you and appreciate your response. But I believe it is terribly insensitive to insinuate we are all inherent serial murdering terrorists and glorify that in a poem, instead of using your sizable platform to instead memorialize the dead or the wounded. Truly we ARE all capable of doing what Dhzokar did, but Amanda, the last thing I would even think to write to my fans and to the world about would be about his final moments before capture. I’d write about the final moments of that innocent 8 year old boy looking at the runners, smiling, happy and joyful before that evil man blew him to bits.
Rubjon is airplane? haha no. Corky’s surely annoying but he’s a better troll.
Rubjon is airplane…haha, what? You suck rubjohn.
You can sometimes suck rubberjohnnyy when you act the role of mean spirited troll. But the guy above looks like he lifted your emo avatar that you lifted from google. Better copyright that bra ;) Besides the guy whos picture you stole might find youve lifted and is liable to kick yer trolling a$$!
and i think you’d be right actually. Loving In Rainbows. Maybe in 10 years plus that record will stand as their seminal masterpiece. Who knows.
oh thomas….such intellect
likewise.
i wouldn’t say “In Rainbows” is underrated. It’s pretty much considered one of their finest works, minus Stereogum author’s assessment.
pretty dead on, right until the screeching halt that has “In Rainbows” placed so far behind the others…like amnesiac and hail to the thief, passable, halfway great, halfway ok records…that are in this writer’s opinion, a better selection of content and creativity and vitality in the Radiohead canon then their last masterpiece In Rainbows which is absurd, obviously.
1. OK Computer- Their Dark Side of the Moon that changed the game and music
2. Kid A- Their Sergeant Pepper, revolutionary, reactionary
3. The Bends-Their shimmering slice of brit-pop, like Hunky Dory, ect.
4. In Rainbows-Their classic critical favor comeback album, like Blood on the Tracks
5. Amnesiac- Their halfway great record, like Magical Mystery Tour
6. Hail to the Thief-Their bloated somewhat great, but bogged down album, like a Genesis record
7. The King of Limbs-Their Flying Lotus tribute album
8. Pablo Honey-eh….passable debut…ala Bleach, ect.
Wow. I can safely say that’s one of the sights in my life I wish I could unsee…may karma find you Danny D.
indeed dude
I agree dude that Machina 1 and Machina 2 have some of their best song. It’s too bad only die hard Pumpkins fans like us seem to know this ( and not let Corgan as a person persuade our verdict of his tunes). I would rate Oceania the best since Machina. Corgan the person gets vilified while if a currently high praise circle or pitchfork friendly band like Radiohead/Thom Yorke were to be polarizing, there would prob be praise. Even musical praise. The King of Limbs was not a great record but for Radiohead it will never sink or swim popular critical opinion. Shame that it can’t be fair and balance that way for pumpkins :) i love Radiohead, but you know, expressing my opinion. Pumpkins love forevah!
Nice summation, good sir.
some shockingly stupid choices, mostly like klaxons and Madonna “borderline” while omitting “sledgehammer” and “smells like teen spirit”, but still some solid choices and KUDOS to the #1 pick..absolutely hands down agree to it being the most emotive and evocative and meaningful music video ever made…
some of his quotes to the media sound so self deluded, ignorant, inane and slow witted, that they should be bronzed. let his 15 minutes begin…
damn skippy ;)
From a musical reference point, The glitch feel programming production and the billowy textures of vocals. The Eraser is the closest reference in my opinion, other then Amnesiac.I’m looking forward to giving the album more time to get into. I hated The Eraser. I don’t hate The King of Limbs. BUt I don’t exactly love it either :(
mikey, do you have assholeitis?
well fair enough. I guess my gripe is that Amnesiac and The Eraser kind of mastered that left feild territory. The King of Limbs just kind of hints at old directions from the past but brings nothing fresh to the table. If i wanted to hear Flying Lotus, I’d go out and buy it. I miss the over-reaching epic drama of OK Computer, the stormy emotional aien epic of Kid A and the tunes of The Bends. I don’t understand why so many on this thread don’t get where I’m coming from.The King of Limbs isn’t a fail, but its a minor dissapointment, particualry after waiting 4 years.
you sound like Cartman :P I just imagine his voice.
Pulk Pull a masterpiece? Pair that track against Karma Police and then let’s talk.
what a stupid comment. Since an unfinished relatively boring work will suddenly feel complete and interesting?
Wow. I think you missed the boat amigo. She wrote a terrible “poem”, terrible in execution, terrible in principle, terrible in craftsmanship, but worst of all, a hyper-liberal insult to the victims of the Boston Bombing. This chick has a track record too, thats probably why its reaching fever pitch and people are just tired of her crazy self styling. Check out her media whoredom bids- masquerading a fake band composed of siamese twins with a fictitious back-story of child pornography and sexual abuse….simulating raping a Katy Perry look-alike onstage…successfully achieving one million in kickstarter profits to then ask musicians to play for pizza and beer…writing gleeful up-tempo songs about rape…oh and she faked a suicide to “punish” her boyfriend..
.Also, perhaps, other then this poem, her worst offense is in once being a mime.
But seriously, I’m done discussing this gal. She stands up for every deviant cause and excuses it as art. Her art sucks…alot. Its the indie Lady Gaga. Hopefully she’ll really come to some sort of self-reflection and realize she needs to get some type of grasp on reality and stop towing the line of self-delusion, self-promotion and milking tragedy for a buck.