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I know it’s been discussed again and again but I really feel that it’s a simple matter regarding authenticity. People want the real thing, and it’s not difficult to know when you’re getting played.
Most people that take their music listening habits seriously can see right through contrivedness of top 40/radio bullshit. It comes across in the music too. It’s pretty obvious that Mumford et all are rolling in the $ yet posturing as this small-town ‘let’s go play a jaunty tale at the local fishermens’ pub’ bullshit. Think of how many shitty bands Nirvana spawned in the 90′s, or The Strokes spawned in the 00′s. None eclipse the original, yet everyone is trying to capitalize on the market once it becomes ‘sellable’ for mass appeal. For all intents and purposes, it kills the genre once other artists jump on an archetype to make money. That’s what has happened over the past year or so with the ‘civil-war-wave’ banjo & suspenders genre. It’s cooked.
To use another analogy, music consumption is alot like food consumption. Sure, once in awhile I’ll eat shit and like it, even though a)I know it’s shit and b)I will inevitable hate myself for it. But when you’re going out for a nice meal, you don’t want your tikka masala or sushi coming from 18 year old white dudes in the kitchen. Sure, they can get close to an ‘authentic’ product, but underneath it all you just know in your heart of hearts that it’s lacking. That’s sort of how I feel listening to the artists in question.
Not sure if anyone else feels this way, but it’s something no one’s brought up yet that’s probably worth mentioning.
To me, “Hey Ya” barely qualifies as an Outkast song.
By the time Speakerboxxx/The Love Below came out, Dre and Big were already heading in separate directions. It’s Outkast, sure, but in name only…and even then, not really. They couldn’t even decide on one title.
Shouldn’t the “10 best…” list feature songs that prominently feature (all) members of the group in question? There are certainly enough..
grimes and her musical aesthetic are shit
ps bonny bear is totally pretentious $@#$ so they got that right
in my examination ‘hipster bands’ is not what the list is really about. what they’re getting at is the bands most pumped up by phonies, not hipsters.
it’s sort of a ‘I listen to (insert list band) because I think it gets me indie/hipster ‘cred’ but I probably wouldn’t like it other than the fact that some obscure blog/website/friend touted it and I have trouble forming an original opinion on anything’ list.
shocked that dirty projectors and grimes aren’t on this.
and no, lowercase isn’t hipster, it’s just lazy right now.
when’s Skittles making Lost Boys 4- Return of the Dubpires?
It’ll be nice when the hipster aesthetic gets replaced.
You would think that it’d be dying off by now (via reverse hipster irony)
I mean, how many trendy kids have to go hipster before the original hipster masses give up on the idea.
Then we could all stop pretending band like Sleigh Bells are any good.
fuck sleigh bells. worst band ever.
oh they’re ‘loud’?
so are my landlord’s morning shits.
when it’s more about image than actual music, the whole thing becomes null and void.
oh please. fuck sleigh bells. fab-rock at its worst
I blame every other musician for not doing anything compelling enough to warrant our attention for the greater part of 2011. The runaway LDR train would be a back-burner issue at best if truly GREAT music was being produced this year.
Instead we’ve had to settle for oversaturated retreads, the rise of black slutwave, ratty hipster dj’s, and the music media’s defection/conversion of indie to hip-hop.
Pretty sure everyone is f@#king fed up.
Things have to change soon, out of necessity. I can feel it.
Just to add a semi-interesting side story:
Saw Dam Funk tonight in San Diego. Dam obviously has beef with OFWGKTA.
“We’re not gonna swim in any Frank Oceans!”
“We’re not livin’ in an Odd Future!”
(disagree with the Ocean comment – thought his album was super legit) but I agree with the OF dissension 95%……
meme hype/buzzability can only last so long before actual talent has to back it up…Lana Del Rey, your time is nigh pretty lips)
force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed force fed
a more accurate title, “Bad remixes Worse”
there’s really no reason to like her
No, not really. I see a point to all this.
If ‘Lana’ was a 300 pound dog with a moustache, no one would give a f@#$ and we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place. Music ‘purists’ judge the music’s merit on what you can do as a MUSICIAN, not whether you can pout your DSL’s against a wall while wearing some bullsh!t vintage/hipster apparel.
It should always be MUSIC 1st, Image/Persona/Marketing/Other 2nd. Saying ‘well it’s always been done this way’ doesn’t make it right.
It simply sounds like Michael is disappointed that Stereogum would choose to carry a torch for an artist in this “category.”
Might as well start pimping Beiber on SG.
This article is very good at reminding me that hip-hop has officially become the new mainstream indie (or ‘mindie’), and as a result will super-saturate, re-peak and implode in within a matter of 18 months.
WE AREN’T READY FOR THIS YET. (via still washing the Fiddy/Diddy/OFWGWKTA suckage out of our systems)
Can’t the mindie outlets (SG included) ruin another genre (like the nearly-defunct dubstep market) that was blatantly pushed on mindie consumers? (glad that debacle only lasted a few months and is sort of fizzling out)
The more important question: WHY did mindie markets all simultaneously turn to hip-hop as the next ‘wave’?
at least there’s one Bon Iver/Justin article that does not contain the words “Wisconsin” “cabin” or “isolated”.
that being said leave the autotune garbage to the minimally talented rappers….enough already.
=horrible. they make me want to boycott christmas.
are we sure this isn’t malcolm in the middle?
weezer & cuomo have both sucked for years now, and so does the cover. why do artists feel the need to cover others’ work. farting into a microphone for 4 minutes would be way more original.
I would say Kanye is more like the Prince of pop/hip-hop. Ultimately he’s a talented and misunderstood guy. His general public appeal waxes and wanes, but at the root of it we all know he’s a unique voice that will likely endure…..you might not necessarily be ‘into’ what he’s doing all the time but the man does what he wants, and that alone in a music industry hampered by quickly-fading trends is refreshing.
Another perspective to look at is that there were little to no digestible ‘hip-hop’ albums this year, so in comparison, Kanye’s looks like a diamond in the rough (yes, the Roots did their thing, and they’re superb at it, but it’s not really a ‘new’ thing). There aren’t really any new artists pushing him in the genre. Kanye’s been around, released a bunch of material, and spawned a slew of modern artists are already ripping off his vibe. It’s easy to forget that he’s an original.
I’m not lobbying for MBDTF as my #1 pick this year by any means, but I do feel that it deserves a relatively high ranking on any year-end lists.
pretty sure the original release date for Gorilla Manor was in 2009
Right???? Not that it matters but weren’t they nominated for a Grammy?
Menomena should be on there. Gorillaz should be on there. Sleigh Bells still really suck. And I know Ra Ra Riot didn’t get much love, but I’d much rather listen to The Orchard than 10 or so albums that made their way on this list. Alas……….
this band sucks. it takes more than a hot chick to sell records in the ‘indie’ department.