This week marks the 20 year anniversary of Nirvana’s In Utero. As expected a lot of us are looking back on that incredibly special and difficult (in every possible way) record. NPR’s All Songs Considered has done a lengthy interview with Kris Novoselic and Dave Grohl about the recording of the album and the experience of working with Steve Albini, whose production on records by the Pixies, the Breeders, and the Jesus Lizard were a famous influence on the band and the record. Rather than having just a nostalgic conversation, the two get very in-depth about the recording process, play some alternate takes of In Utero songs (the previously unreleased “Forgotten Tune” is teased at the very end), and discuss the new remastering and new remixing by Albini. It’s an extremely interesting interview about, not just one of the best, but one of the most fascinatingly recorded albums of the ’90s.

In Utero: 20th Anniversary Edition will be reissued on 9/24 by Universal.