You know if you haven’t heard The Dreaming you can just say. Nobody will think less of you. Well nobody will think less of you than they do right now.

Man…people are kind of dicks about women’s bodies.

It’s not like this is a particularly erotic photograph. Doesn’t it seem strange that a woman can’t display her naked torso without the image being decried as pornography? Doesn’t that embody the unhealthy degree to which we fetishize and claim public ownership over women’s bodies? It’s creepy and patronizing to construe a woman’s decision to present her body as intrinsically exploitative, as though clothing is the only means by which women can maintain agency over their art.

Also, saying “she’s just desperate for attention” ignores the fact that ALL artists are desperate for attention. A desperate need to be validated by others is sort of the default prerequisite for dedicating your life to a creative pursuit. People who are “well adjusted” and satisfied by the love and respect of close friends and family aren’t typically inclined to throw themselves naked and raw to a cruel, disinterested public, to present the bloodiest, most wounded slabs of their person up for consumption.

Can we all maybe keep perspective? People keep saying Kanye needs to act more like a classic rock star. But those classic rock stars don’t exactly have a stellar track record.

Kanye isn’t a known abuser of women. John Lennon was.
Kanye wasn’t arrested for possessing Nazi paraphernalia. David Bowie was.
Kanye isn’t a heroin addict. Kurt Cobain was.
Kanye doesn’t touch children. Michael Jackson did.
Kanye’s manager didn’t hire a violent street gang for concert security. The Rolling Stones did.

By comparison the worst thing Kanye ever did was hurt Taylor Swift’s feelings.

Well actually the worst thing Kanye did was praise David Stern, that human slimeball. Actually you know what? Fuck Kanye. David Stern is the worst.

This list is really terrible.

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Putting The Sensual World above The Dreaming is a really roundabout way of saying that you’re boring.

I was at the show last night. As others have noted, it was a woman who yelled out the offending comment. Still, I think it IS somewhat a gender issue, not because of the gender of the person who yelled it, but because if the PERFORMER had been male, I doubt anyone would think to question his appearance in that way. People seem to be way more focused on appearance and body weight when the performer is female. Nothing about Fiona’s appearance that was detracting from her ability to do her JOB, which is singing and performing. As Fiona herself said after the “you were beautiful 20 years ago” comment, “Why the fuck is it my job to be ‘beautiful’ anyway?” Exactly.

Sexism aside, I think the “concerned” heckler was way out of line. It doesn’t matter if she was right or not about Fiona’s health. In no way is it appropriate or constructive to yell out “advice” of a very personal nature in a public forum. Just wrong on every level.

So, does this mean we’re cancelling Draketober?

You don’t yell that shit at a show. What an asshole.

Funniest part was when Kimmel asked Kanye where he was when he was sending those tweets:

“I like to think that you were on the toiilet.” ~Kimmel

“Yeah that’s when I think of my best shit.” ~Kanye

The man is a lot of things and Casual Pun Master is definitely one of them.

Hopefully she’ll be frightened away forever. She obviously can’t handle it anymore (being in the spotlight; receiving criticism; dealing with her career). She should find some other way to make money and just be done with it. It’s obviously not worth it any longer. The level of ego/pride she’s dealing with is very unhealthy, and it’s likely only going to lead to something irreversibly awful when the bubble final bursts. There is life beyond the spotlight/attention.

i would legitimately rather you guys rank the get up kids records as opposed to this.

This is a good time to be a hetero straight male. After the Miley VMA incident it’s all these pop stars trying to outslut each other. Womens “empowerment” amiright?

How could you think that being on heroin or hiring the Angels is somehow at odds with rock and roll? Um, hello? Nazi gear…whatever. They had great color schemes. Whatever gets your artistic muse going. As long as you don’t have Nazi sympathies (my grandparents were German Jews who narrowly escaped in 1939.) Sharing a bed with consenting kids in a platonic way (nothing was ever proven)? Weird as hell, but MJ gave his childhood to rock and roll, so I don’t begrudge him that.

OTOH, fashion designer? Spending thousands of hours thinking about fabric or trends or whatever? That’s some seriously whack shit.

And I obviously never said that some late-period Stones is better than Kanye.

Yeah but all those people made music that was far greater than Kanye’s.

And being a fashion designer is far more embarrassing than possessing Nazi paraphernalia, being a heroin addict, sharing a bed with kids, or hiring the Hells Angels.

“It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times! you stupid monkey!” C. Montgomery Burns.