Masked rap enigma DOOM is the latest rapper to get his own signature shoe. But this the rare situation in which the show in question isn’t a sneaker. Instead, it’s a special editions of Clarks Wallabies, the shoes made rap-acceptable by DOOM’s frequent collaborator Ghostface Killah. Doom’s signature version of the show has reflective piping and a few subtle insignias, and in the video below, he talks about what drew him to the project and why he likes the shoes. It’s a rare opportunity to hear DOOM talking in something other than riddles.

The shoes are on sale 3/13; details here.