Steve Albini was recently a guest on Vish Khanna’s Kreative Kontrol podcast. He touched on a wide range of topics, from normal things like Shellac’s upcoming new album Dude Incredible and his favorite pastime poker to less orthodox things like how how “smoking weed is a young man’s game” and “the last time he tripped balls.” You can listen to the whole thing right here.

Shellac’s new album Dude Incredible is out 9/16 on Touch & Go Records.