gabe:i didn't watch Do Not Disturb, was it really that bad?
lindsay:Yes, it was as bad as it could possibly be.
gabe:you would hope jason bateman would steer it clear of the shoals
gabe:the sitcom shoals
gabe:the fall new sitcom shoals
lindsay:I tried to find the tiniest evidence that it was once a good show but got ruined by too many tv execs.
lindsay:But there's nothing there.
gabe:is that such a thing?
gabe:a show that doesn't exist that was good without existing?
gabe:i mean, if it exists as a bad show
gabe:isn't it just a bad show
lindsay:Well, it's by an Arrested Development writer
lindsay:So I thought he must have started with a good idea
lindsay:or good jokes
lindsay:but if he did, there are no fossils left in the show that made it to TV.
gabe:was the show making fun of sitcoms?
gabe:you'd think that in 2008
gabe:we would know that putting "sassy black lady" into a sitcom should have some kind of deeper meaning
lindsay:Totally, but instead she's just a sassy black lady character.
lindsay:There's nothing meta about the show
lindsay:And the chick who plays the dumb blonde receptionist
lindsay:is like, sorry, way too old to be that character
lindsay:I mean, 30 Rock has a dumb blonde receptionist
lindsay:so it can be done
gabe:30 rock is sort of a hybrid
gabe:between a standard sitcom
gabe:and one of these newfangled sitcoms
gabe:but i don't know if agree with your post that sitcoms need to be buried in a coffin
lindsay:Well this is going to sound terrible
lindsay:but have you watched old sitcoms lately?
lindsay:They're also pretty awkward
gabe:old sitcoms are the worst
gabe:but that doesn't mean new sitcoms have to be the worst
gabe:there's still hope for the sitcom
lindsay:Well I mean even Cheers
gabe:ew, "even" cheers?
gabe:i am not talking about cheers
gabe:that show is stupid
lindsay:I don't know, I guess I thought you thought Cheers was the ultimate acheivment of mankind.
lindsay:or something
gabe:sam and diane should drop dead
lindsay:they probably will soon
gabe:sam and diane should take a long walk off a short bridge to nowhere
gabe:if sam and diane were both tied to the train tracks and i had to choose one, i would go get drunk instead
lindsay:Well duh
lindsay:I'd take a picture first
lindsay:hello, Pulitzer!
gabe:but i liked Friends
gabe:a lot of people don't know that about me
lindsay:The thing is, I STILL like friends
gabe:i use that for ice breaker games
lindsay:but I can't tell if I would like it if it was unfamlliar
gabe:when you have to tell people something no one knows about you
lindsay:I know
gabe:i say "i like friends"
gabe:i'm the worst at ice brekaer games
lindsay:Actually, I have a secret theory that you don't really like Friends
lindsay:and that you're trying to add a surprising layer to your character
lindsay:Shake things up, if you will
gabe:haha
lindsay:Because it really seems like you would hate Friends
lindsay:So you must be really complex
gabe:no, that comes from when i say i like Frasier
lindsay:hahaha
lindsay:Frasier.
gabe:i went through a minor Frasier phase
lindsay:I've seen every episode of Frasier
gabe:i think i was kind of depressed, but i watched a lot of Frasier
lindsay:Don't worry
gabe:Frasier is terrible
lindsay:I like Niles
lindsay:but Frasier was a horrible awful person
lindsay:always
gabe:if sam and diane and niles and frasier were all tied to separate train tracks
lindsay:No, Niles is great
lindsay:Niles gets it
gabe:i would learn how to drive a train
lindsay:Actually
gabe:how to stop a train and make it go in reverse
lindsay:that could happen in the world of Frasier
lindsay:because they did all know each other
gabe:TRUE
lindsay:on account of Frasier being a spinoff
lindsay:I want to see Maris
lindsay:I actually thought that the other day
lindsay:they should do a show called Maris
lindsay:NOW
lindsay:now is the time
lindsay:it could be called "Remember Maris?"
gabe:anyway
gabe:the thing is, we're going to get just as bored of these meta-sitcoms
gabe:The Office and what not
lindsay:Yeah
lindsay:We don't need any more
lindsay:except that spinoff
lindsay:but after that, done
gabe:haha
lindsay:the door is closed
gabe:that spin-off is going to be a disaster
gabe:mark my words
lindsay:awww
gabe:Disaster Town, population That Spin Off
lindsay:well it does seem like they don't really know what it's about yet
gabe:even if it's successful, i predict disaster
lindsay:which is a little worrying
gabe:it will be like the show in Extrsa
gabe:When the Whistle Blows or whatever
gabe:hugely successful and an utter nightmare
lindsay:You know I just realized that I watched the american office pilot when it leaked online
lindsay:and I was like 'worst show ever'
gabe:well, the pilot was terrible
gabe:if they did not turn the show into something else
gabe:it would have been the worst show ever
lindsay:Are You 'avin' a laugh?
gabe:when the pilot aired on TV
gabe:because some of us
gabe:live AMONG THE PEOPLE
gabe:on PLANET EARTH
gabe:and not in our LIBERAL IVORY BLOG TOWER
gabe:where we watch LEAKED PILOTS
lindsay:it leaked to everyone!!
gabe:and drive JAPANESE COMPUTERS
gabe:when it aired on TV i turned it off halfway through
lindsay:on whatever proto version of youtube existed then
gabe:it was unbearable
lindsay:I think you had to download it
gabe:"it leaked to everyone, you just got an email from a publicist with a password and you went to a mirror site and downloaded it in three parts, burned it to a CDR and watched it on your Apple TV."
gabe:everyone
gabe:everyone did that
lindsay:hahaha
lindsay:I don't even know what most of those words mean
gabe:i think that you pretend to hate 2 and a half men
gabe:because you think that's what smart people hate
gabe:but in reality
gabe:you love that show
lindsay:Actually, I tried to watch it and cultivate a contrarian liking it personality trait
lindsay:but it really is THAT bad
lindsay:I tried to do what you do with Friends with it
gabe:ew, that's even worse
gabe:don't do that
gabe:stop doing things like that
gabe:why do you do thigns like that?
gabe:because of sadness?
lindsay:No, actually I tried to watch it because I thought maybe it could be good but nobody knows
lindsay:And I would be the discoverer
lindsay:but it's just angry-makingly bad
gabe:yeah, no that makes sense. it only gets 18 million viewers a week
gabe:probably no one ever saw it
lindsay:Nobody I READ THE WORDS OF
gabe:a diamond in the rough
lindsay:What I choose to hate watch in my own private time is no business of yours.
gabe:that's not true
gabe:that's not true anymore
lindsay:hahaha
lindsay:Okay, I guess Two and a half men was about exactly as bad as a movie where people eat shit.
gabe:you love How I Met Your Mother
gabe:and that's mediocre
lindsay:Correction: I loved the first two seasons of How I Met Your Mother
lindsay:pre-stunt-casting
lindsay:so pre-not-about-to-be-canceled
lindsay:No, that show was good
lindsay:And could be good again but has gotten too relationshippy
gabe:no, that show was fine
lindsay:It used to not be for pussies
gabe:i would categorize that show as "fine"
gabe:it was "watchable"
lindsay:I mean, it wasn't "Not for pussies! pussies beware!" but now it's a little For Pussies only.
gabe:i just think that any show can be good or bad
gabe:GENIUS OPINION
gabe:but i mean
gabe:My Name Is Earl
gabe:is like Arrested Development for idiots
gabe:it tries to play with the form
gabe:but it's miserable
gabe:it's also super popular
gabe:so we should probably quit and/or be fired
lindsay:I feel like I'm completely caught up on my name is earl
lindsay:from the incessant promos
lindsay:there are worse shows than my name is earl
lindsay:it's like Scrubs
gabe:haha, you like my name is earl
lindsay:you never really think about it, but if it's on you don't rush to change the channel
gabe:My Name Is Earl is your boyfriend
gabe:you should replace all the "yous" in that sentence with "I's"
gabe:becuase i do not do that
gabe:i have never once in my life
gabe:casually found myself watching My name Is Earl
gabe:"oh, whoops, i just watched My Name Is Earl" is not something I've ever said
lindsay:hahaha
lindsay:everyone on that show is dumb
lindsay:that's the premise
gabe:OK
gabe:so the end result of this discussion
gabe:is that I think there's still hope for the sitcom
gabe:and your favorite show is My name Is Earl
gabe:right?
gabe:have I got that right?
lindsay:And your favorite show is Frasier.
gabe:not anymore
