We should be clear here: Smashing Pumpkins frontman has not endorsed the presidential campaign of Donald Trump, his fellow probably-naturally-bald control-freak celebrity. Corgan has, however, spoken about some aspects of Trump’s campaign that he thinks are “cool.” He likes the idea that Trump is this chaotic, uncontrollable force who has elbowed his way into the proceedings and made next year’s presidential election a whole lot more unpredictable. As SPIN points out, here’s what Corgan had to say about Trump in a V.I.P. Q&A in Cincinnati last month:

I think what’s cool — and I’m not saying I agree politically — but I think what’s cool is Trump’s running chaos theory. He’s forcing a lot of things out into the open, so they can’t control this, whatever that control is. It’s like the music business: everybody gets controlled, and somebody comes along that fucks it all up. So I think it’s good that he’s fucking it up, because whether or not he’s the guy, obviously the political class doesn’t want him there. It’ll open it up to a bigger dialog. Just like rock and roll, it gets boring and it needs to be — I mean look, whether anybody agrees or not, the rating on that debate was 24 million. It was 8 times higher than the first Republican debate of the last cycle. It was highest non-sports related cable rating of all time. That means people are engaged.

I would argue at this point is there any difference between politics and entertainment? Is there any difference at this point between music and entertainment? I don’t think there’s any difference any more.

For me, the most interesting thing about that quote is that Corgan doesn’t say that he doesn’t agree with Trump politically.