The NBA playoffs are starting soon, so our friends at the Ringer had the great idea to get Vince Staples and Hannibal Buress into a room together to talk about basketball’s greatest enforcers, a subject dear to all of our hearts. Staples is both a huge basketball fan and an extremely funny motherfucker, and both of those things are also true of Buress, the great stand-up comic. (It might be worth noting, though, that Staples arguably gets more funny lines in than Buress, which makes me wonder what might happen if Vince Staples ever tried stand-up.) Some sample Staples wisdom: “It’s easy to be a nut-puncher. But to kick someone in the head and say that it’s a natural reflex?” Watch it below.

We asked @vincestaples and @hannibalburess to help us tell the difference between real NBA tough guys and fake NBA tough guys: pic.twitter.com/6fQ29bwhLY

— The Ringer (@ringer) April 3, 2017

Someday, I will tell the story about how I drunkenly splashed beer on Buress once, and he did not laugh it off. Right now, the humiliation is still too fresh and too raw, so I will just say that Staples’ album Big Fish Theory is coming soon.