Chicago youngster Chance The Rapper blew up on the strength of last year’s Acid Rap mixtape. Since then, he’s been touring heavily with his Social Experiment live band and releasing a string of increasingly woozy and weird one-off tracks. (The last of those, “No Better Blues,” is either a half-baked slam-poetry nothing or a bold new step; pick your side.) But in a new interview, Chance says that his next full-length is called Surf, that it’ll be out by the end of the year, and that it will once again be a free download. He’s been spending some time in the studio with some interesting people, too.

Talking to Billboard, Chance says that Surf will be, in some ways, a showcase for the Social Experiment trumpeter Donnie Trumpet. Chance and the band have been spending a lot of time in an L.A. studio, and they’ve put in work with people like Frank Ocean, Rick Rubin, Migos, J. Cole, and Francis & The Lights’ Francis Starlite.

Surf, according to Chance, is just one of the projects that he and the Social Experiment plan to release in the months ahead. He also says that he’s working on a new live show that’s inspired by the Lion King musical, and there’s another project called SOX on the way. And he intends to stay independent rather than signing to a major label. Read the whole interview here.