David Pajo of Slint and Billy Corgan once performed together in the supergroup Zwan, and ever since, the two have trashed one another as often as possible. Apparently, even now, no love has been lost. Pajo tore up Corgan in a new interview with the Kreative Kontrol podcast, where he states that the Smashing Pumpkins frontman is not so different from Donald Trump. Pajo cites Corgan’s “bully mentality” and says that while Corgan “can very convincingly front that he’s a sensitive liberal person,” now that “Trump’s made it OK to not act like that, for people like [Corgan], he’s gonna start shouting that.” As Pajo describes in his own words:

When the campaign was happening, I was like, ‘Wow, Trump is so much like Corgan. I’m sure Billy loves this guy. I know he’s a Trump supporter. He has to be. He’s got millions of dollars. He’s got that ego. He loves the bully mentality.’ I don’t keep up with him, and I don’t wanna talk bad about him. But I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he was a Trump supporter. In fact, I’d be more surprised if he wasn’t.

However, the suggested similarities between the two didn’t stop there, with Pajo going on to mock Corgan’s obsession with his album sales, specifically how he would scold his fans for not buying his records and then slam competing bands about record sales:

When Smashing Pumpkins’ last one or two records didn’t sell that well, Billy went on this rant about how he was disappointed in his fans for not understanding the record and not buying it. That’s such a weird thing to me [laughs]. To scold your fans for not buying your record. But that is the way he thinks. And when bands like the White Stripes and the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and Interpol were starting up in the New York scene, he would say stuff to me, like, to him they were all just little bands. He was like, the biggest White Stripes sold this much; my records have totally slaughtered them!

You can listen to the entirety of Dave Pajo’s appearance on Kreative Kontrol below.