Jack White might live in the same city as the Black Keys, but that doesn’t mean he has to like them. White has reportedly refused to let Black Keys frontman Dan Auerbach into an event at his Nashville Third Man compound, and last year, when White’s ex-wife Karen Elson filed a restraining order against him, we learned the extent of his Auerbach dislike. White didn’t want his kids in the same class as Auerbach’s, and in an email used in court, this was his rationale: “that’s a possible twelve fucking years i’mg going to be sitting in kids chairs next to that asshole with other people trying to lump us in together. he gets another freee reign to follow me around and copy me and push himself into my world.” The Black Keys have now responded, and they’re not clapping back quite as forcefully as you might think.

Talking to Rolling Stone, Auerbach is generally quiet on the whole episode: “I don’t know him, so it’s extra-unexpected.” But his bandmate Patrick Carney, who has never been shy about popping shit in the press, says that White “sounds like an asshole” and adds, “I actually feel embarrassed for him.”

For the most part, though, Carney isn’t mad at White. He’s mad at the gossip-industrial complex that brought White’s private emails into the public eye in the first place: “I don’t hold grudges, man. I really don’t. We’ve all said fucked-up shit in private, and divorce is hard… I really think personal things are personal things. Like, TMZ? Honestly, they should be fucking ashamed of themselves, that they make a living dragging poor souls that have nothing, that aren’t famous, into this world… You’re a fucking rock musician, you’re a fucking actor, you’re a fucking model or whatever. It’s your job, you know what I mean? No one’s doing anything illegal, it’s just that people are living lives that get complicated… Those emails that Jack White wrote that got leaked, as fucked up as that shit is, that was a private conversation, and it doesn’t register to me. You know how horrifying it would be if all of our private shit was aired? And people go sniffing around looking for this shit. And ultimately it’s no one’s business.”