The Talkhouse has been on a roll recently — last week they enlisted Ghostpoet and Phil Selway to have a lengthy two-part discussion about Radiohead history — and this week they’ve paired up emerging Australian indie rocker Courtney Barnett and iconic alt-rocker Kim Deal. Barnett covered the Breeders’ “Cannonball” for the A.V. Club’s Undercover series last year, and that’s part of what prompted the Talkhouse to connect them. Check out the hour-plus conversation below; they cover everything from live TV gaffes to whether or not Barnett is a sociopath, and how to stay sane in an insane world (Spoiler alert: Deal doesn’t think she did).