SZA recently sat down for an extensive interview with Variety, who named her their Hitmaker Of The Year after she picked up nine Grammy nominations for last year’s SOS. In a separate breakout section from the conversation, SZA talked about her musical inspirations and whipped out her phone to scroll through her playlists — she has one called “Ultra Songs” and another called “Study Boys” — and discussed the many artists that were influential in making SOS. Many of them make a lot of sense:

When I was making my album I studied all my favorite songs from my youth, all the things I love… [scrolling]… original Bjork, Animal Collective … the Cars’ “Drive”… a lot of Stevie Wonder, Brandy, Fever Ray, Beach Boys, Joni Mitchell… lots of Joni Mitchell… Erykah Badu, Marvin Gaye, Blink-182, Wheatus, India Arie… there’s a lot of Hiatus Kaiyote … Coldplay, more Bjork, the Beatles, Crosby Stills and Nash, Good Charlotte, Lit, David Bowie, so many…

Eventually, she brings up a more recent fixation with Creed, Nickelback, and bands of that ilk. And she stumps for them pretty hard! “The other day you know what I pulled up? Creed, Nickelback, Train ‘Drops of Jupiter,’ just a whole bunch of that!” When interviewer Jem Aswad expressed some consternation, she said: “I know, I know! Wait, you know what’s crazy? Do white people hate Creed and Nickelback? … Why? Black people love them! They rock! That shit is bomb! Why do you all hate it so much? That voice…” Aswad brings up that one of Morgan Wallen’s go-to producers (Joey Moi) used to work with Nickelback. SZA responds:

Okay, I don’t know if that’s where I was headed in the realm of “Yay, I was listening to Creed and Nickelback the other day in childhood nostalgia!’ [laughter] But I like Creed so much — “Higher”? Why are you hating on it? Have you ever felt more inspired and uplifted in your life? I’m in the car and I’m blasting “Higher,” I feel like it’s a gospel song, the vocals are going crazy and it’s also somehow slightly romantic, it just feels so fun. Because even if it’s cliche, he’s so fucking dead ass! I will be a Creed fan forever. Like, it started just on a whim in the shower, “Oh, let’s play this,” and then it became a week of Creed and Nickelback.

SZA then turns back to her phone to rattle off more names that are on her phone playlists: King Krule, Kid Cudi, Jamiroquai, etc…

Read the full Variety interview here.