Jesse Cohen of Tanlines has a podcast called No Effects, and for his latest episode, Cohen talked to indie rock demigod Ezra Koenig. As statesmen of the NYC indie music community, the two have a lot in common, and can therefore discuss things like fanbase names that the rest of us wouldn’t really understand. Also, Cohen does a cute, deadpan commercial for Tanlines’ new album Highlights, which comes out very soon. Listen to the conversation below.

Earlier this week Koenig and his Vampire Weekend bandmate Chris Tomson also appeared on the soccer talk show Men In Blazers. Watch below.