Father John Misty is in the midst of a press cycle for his upcoming third studio LP, Pure Comedy, and he’s already bestowed us with a plethora of classic Mistyisms, from loving “the exhilaration of feeling a pull quote come out of your mouth” to bravely proclaiming aloud that “I will ride for Nickelback.” Today the fun continues. In a new interview with Pitchfork, the former Fleet Fox unequivocally continues to deliver. For instance, when asked about his recent work with pop stars, Misty had this to say:

OK, let me tell you as someone who made a grotesque foray into this world—because I have also been subjected to this music my whole life and wanted to know how the sausage was made just out of fucking morbid curiosity—there is nothing not wildly audience-tested and calculated about this fucking music. Exempting myself from this conversation, the people who get accused of being calculated? Psht! It’s truly a joke.

When you lionize pop music, you lionize the very thing that feminism purports to be against, which is a culture of exploitation and overcharging. Which is what cracks me the fuck up when you read these ridiculous puff pieces about how wonderful major-labor pop music is, and the whole fucking industry is run like you actually buy into the idea that that woman that’s onstage, wearing next to nothing, is powerful. Because that is like being a child.

If you think that pop stars are anything other than prisoners, then you are fucking kidding yourself. I know them. They are crying for help in their music. We think that we’re doing the world a favor by recognizing the innate wholesomeness of this form of music, like, “Oh, I don’t know, it’s just fun! Something that was made to be liked!” But why do you think that Lady Gaga or Beyoncé would come to old Uncle Jerry over here for songs if they weren’t looking for something? If they weren’t like, “Get me away from these fucking psychos.” Both of them know I’m not running around looking for these gigs. I’ve just done co-writes with those two people. The only reason it happened is because people played them my music and then they asked me to write for them. It’s as simple as that. I have no interest in doing it.

Misty previously talked about his experience writing for Beyoncé and Lady Gaga on Beats1, although his tone then was far less incendiary. The rest of the interview is filled with plenty more choice quotables, too many to possibly reprint all here, so I recommend reading the whole thing if you enjoy Misty’s only slightly ironic highbrow hot-takes. He discusses why he remained with Sub Pop over signing with a major label, growing up in a highly religious community, and comments on the increasing political correctness in music. But his best and most damning quote is right here: “I’m sorry, but if you are reading music blogs and tweeting about people like me, then there is no meaningful distinction between that person and me.”